IRC Papperlite tires
Barry Young
I perchased a new road bike this year and have only got 550 Km. on it
and I find that the rear tire is already showing signs of extreme wear.
The tires are IRC Paperlite 700 x 23 . I have been very careful to
ensure that they are inflated to the correct preasure as indicated on
the sidewall.
Has anyone else had similar experiance with these tires or have I got a
bad one ? I feel that this wear is exessive, I have got much better
wear out of continental gran prixs on my old road bike.
Any comments?
thanks
Barry
Baird Webel
Barry Young <byo...@sympatico.ca> wrote in article
<338246...@sympatico.ca>...
What do you expect out of tires that are called paper lite? If you want
ultra light, don't expect it to last as long, though 500km does seem
very low. Your expectations may be a little high if you are used to
contis, other than the sidewalls, they last a very long time.
baird
frank
My new bike came with IRC Paperlite Plus tires. They've done well for about
800 miles. Aside from two flats which I dont blame on this specific
product, they've done A-OK, show little wear and continue to work well.
This is actually far better than I had hoped for given their name and
reputation.
--
frank <<fsog...@mitre.org>>
Jobst Brandt
Barry Young writes:
> I purchased a new road bike this year and have only got 550 Km. on
> it and I find that the rear tire is already showing signs of extreme
> wear.
What do you call "extreme wear"? Either the tire is worn out and the
cords are showing or they're not. In what state is your tire that
gives you concern?
> The tires are IRC Paperlite 700 x 23. I have been very careful to
> ensure that they are inflated to the correct pressure as indicated
> on the sidewall.
On the other hand, you can expect the mileage to go roughly as the
thickness of rubber, which ought to be small for a tire called
"Paperlite".
Jobst Brandt <jbr...@hpl.hp.com>
Sheldon Brown
Barry Young wrote:
>
> I perchased a new road bike this year and have only got 550 Km. on it
> and I find that the rear tire is already showing signs of extreme wear.
>
> ensure that they are inflated to the correct preasure as indicated on
> the sidewall.
>
> bad one ? I feel that this wear is exessive, I have got much better
> wear out of continental gran prixs on my old road bike.
It does sound excessive. Perhaps you are using your rear brake too
much and skidding...this is very hard on rear tires. If this is the
case, learn to use the front brake alone most of the time; once you
master this technique, you will be able to stop shorter and safer,
without skidding.
Sheldon "Front Brake" Brown
Newtonville, Massachusetts
+------------------------------------------------+
| According to the latest official figures, |
| 43% of all statistics are totally worthless. |
+------------------------------------------------+
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/biz/hub/
Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts
(617) 244-1040 FAX 244-1041
Thomas H. Kunich
In article <338246...@sympatico.ca>,
Barry Young <byo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>I perchased a new road bike this year and have only got 550 Km. on it
>and I find that the rear tire is already showing signs of extreme wear.
>
>The tires are IRC Paperlite 700 x 23 .
IRC Paperlites are only race tires. They are extremely light and
manufacturers will often put them on so that they can advertise a
low weight for the complete bike.
Change to Avocet FastGrips or Continental Super Sprt Ultras
and you will gain much better tread life.
Chris Eckstadt
Barry Young wrote:
>
> I perchased a new road bike this year and have only got 550 Km. on it
> and I find that the rear tire is already showing signs of extreme wear.
>
> ensure that they are inflated to the correct preasure as indicated on
> the sidewall.
>
> Has anyone else had similar experiance with these tires or have I got a
> bad one ? I feel that this wear is exessive, I have got much better
> wear out of continental gran prixs on my old road bike.
>
>
> thanks
> Barry
I have those on my bike, and they are wearing quickly, BUT they are
paperlites! They are super lite and they are sticky! They are great
performance tires, if they were made to last longer, they would not
perform so well.
Gary
> >I perchased a new road bike this year and have only got 550 Km. on it
> >and I find that the rear tire is already showing signs of extreme wear.
> >
> >The tires are IRC Paperlite 700 x 23 .
>
> manufacturers will often put them on so that they can advertise a
> low weight for the complete bike.
>
> Change to Avocet FastGrips or Continental Super Sprt Ultras
> and you will gain much better tread life.
cords showing, splitting etc. Each set had about 1000 miles. Can I
expect longer milage performance with Continental ??
Thanks
Gary
Baird Webel
Gary <ga...@pop.ziplink.net> wrote in article
<33848...@pop.ziplink.net>...
> Thomas H. Kunich wrote:
> I have worn out 700x19 Clements and just recently 700x23 Hutchinson,
> cords showing, splitting etc. Each set had about 1000 miles. Can I
> expect longer milage performance with Continental ??
> Thanks
> Gary
I have always gotten well over 1000 miles on my contis. The thing that
they are vulnerable to is sidewall problems, but the rubber lasts very
well.
baird
Eric P. Salathe, Jr.
Gary wrote:
> I have worn out 700x19 Clements and just recently 700x23 Hutchinson,
> cords showing, splitting etc. Each set had about 1000 miles. Can I
> expect longer milage performance with Continental ??
It's probably less a function of the maker as the tire design. On our
tandem, we got over 3000 miles on an 700x30C IRC Tandem tire, which has
a lot of tread to it. If you want durable tires, you need more material;
no 700x19C has much rubber.
--
,
Eric P. Salathe, Jr. sal...@atmos.washington.edu
Seattle WA
Al Raden
Gary wrote:
>
> I have worn out 700x19 Clements and just recently 700x23 Hutchinson,
> cords showing, splitting etc. Each set had about 1000 miles. Can I
> expect longer milage performance with Continental ??
I don't know about Continentals, but I use Vittoria Tecno Twins. I've
had them on for about 2100 miles now, and they show no real signs of
wear.
- al
R.R Nelson
I've got paperlites on my bike, so far they have about 2500 Km on them.
There is a noticeable wear band on the rear and I got my first puncture
in them yesterday. I consider this fine and I expect to get plenty more
mileage out of them before I replace them. They are nice light tyres.
Richard
|> |> Barry Young wrote:
|> |> >
|> |> > I perchased a new road bike this year and have only got 550 Km. on it
|> |> > and I find that the rear tire is already showing signs of extreme wear.
|> |> >
|> |> > ensure that they are inflated to the correct preasure as indicated on
|> |> > the sidewall.
|> |> >
|> |> > Has anyone else had similar experiance with these tires or have I got a
|> |> > bad one ? I feel that this wear is exessive, I have got much better
|> |> > wear out of continental gran prixs on my old road bike.
|> |> >
|> |> > Any comments?
|> |> >
|> |> > thanks
|> |> > Barry
------Richard Nelson----...@elec.canterbury.ac.nz-------
Blessed are the cracked; For they shall let in the light. -anon.
NfeDelius
>IRC Paperlites are only race tires. They are extremely light and
>manufacturers will often put them on so that they can advertise a
>low weight for the complete bike.
>
>Change to Avocet FastGrips or Continental Super Sprt Ultras
>and you will gain much better tread life.
Plus the switch will make your ride more comfortable and you won't flat as
often.
Neal Mulvenna (aka gearnoise)
Thomas H. Kunich
In article <33848...@pop.ziplink.net>, Gary <ga...@pop.ziplink.net> wrote:
>Thomas H. Kunich wrote:
>I have worn out 700x19 Clements and just recently 700x23 Hutchinson,
>cords showing, splitting etc. Each set had about 1000 miles. Can I
>expect longer milage performance with Continental ??
Well, I don't know about you, but I'm 6'4" and weigh about 200 lb.s
(OK, more)
I get about 2500 miles on Continentals and on Avocet FastGrip 20's I
got 3,500 miles before the cord started showing. On the Continentals
I got a lot of sidewall cuts often having to throw out new tires after
only a couple of miles. On the Avocets I never got a puncture flat
though that is probably only luck.
The Avocets had much better wear, better traction than some tires I've
used, certainly better ride than a Continental GP (which rides like it's
solid steel) and mounted about average (harder than a steel bead
Continental GP and much easier than a folding Continental GP or
Michelin HD)
Mike Battle
Al Raden wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> >
>
> > I have worn out 700x19 Clements and just recently 700x23 Hutchinson,
> > cords showing, splitting etc. Each set had about 1000 miles. Can I
> > expect longer milage performance with Continental ??
rim.(IRC, SBI etc.) I have no experience with Avocet (WHERE are they
made), but the Vittorias (Eyetalian) would probably hold up well, too
Of course, these all co$t twice what the Chin tyres do. I think they'll
give you more than twice the mileage, though, for better economy. (At
least the Contis seem to) I'm dissapointed to hear that the Hutchinsons
didn't last, but weren't they pretty cheap? Tire rubber doesn't seem to
be a place where you can skimp.
Mikie
Gary
The Hutchinsons (France) were about $35.
Seems like everyone likes the 'Conti's'. Now - which one??
Gary
nbce...@delphi.com
more comfortable than the Contis which are, IMHO, harsh riding and in my
experience far more likely to suffer sidewall cuts and premature breakdown
(that is the sidewalls go long before the tread which does wear quite well).
Brian Lafferty
Keith R. Olbrantz
I agree, I have used both and the Michelin sidewallls hold up much better.
Only problem is the rubber tends to develop lots of small cracks but this
doesn't seem to effect the durability or ride. I am interested if the
cracking has any significant effect--?Jobst
--
To Reply via E-mail please remove the <NoSpam> from the address in the header
Charlie Hutchinson
In article <338741...@doitnow.com>, mik...@doitnow.com says...
>
>Al Raden wrote:
>>
>> Gary wrote:
>> >
>>
>> > I have worn out 700x19 Clements and just recently 700x23 Hutchinson,
>> > cords showing, splitting etc. Each set had about 1000 miles. Can I
>> > expect longer milage performance with Continental ??
>> YES. The "Contis" are superior to anything I have seen from the Pacific
>rim.(IRC, SBI etc.) I have no experience with Avocet (WHERE are they
>made), but the Vittorias (Eyetalian) would probably hold up well, too
>
>Of course, these all co$t twice what the Chin tyres do. I think they'll
>give you more than twice the mileage, though, for better economy. (At
>least the Contis seem to) I'm dissapointed to hear that the Hutchinsons
>didn't last, but weren't they pretty cheap? Tire rubber doesn't seem to
>be a place where you can skimp.
>
>Mikie
For my road riding I ONLY ride Continetals. The grand prix tires I use to
train and general ride on have lasted up to 8,000 miles. The super sports
generaly last a little lest but ride so wonderfuly it is almost worth it.
Don't trim your costs on your tires. Save another week and spend the extra $20
for the grand prix. They are in my opinion the hands down best clincher tire
you can buy.