Nashbar trekking bars? Fantastic.
landotter
these crudely taped with some new Novara foam tape--easy enough to
salvage. I'd been wanting to try some out but the bike dorks on the
web had managed to make them pretty cringeworthy with contrasty tape
and all sorts of pokery accessories. Ended up looking clean with black
tape--very adventure-bikey.
Tips: you probably want the stem even or a bit above the saddle, but
not as high as with a mustache bar. Regular reach seems fine--you
might even want more to make the inner position totally normal and the
far position more "aero". Seems like the best starting tilt is with
the outer curves totally flat, this lets you grab the front position
and rest your arms on the near to tuck out of the wind--nice!
Beer run conclusion: hey, these are great--comfort wise they are A++.
Style wise with black tape dialed in flat they look great--but from a
stylists point of view--every accessory you add to them will Fred you
out double what an accessory on a regular bar will. Trust me.
landotter
>the bike dorks on the
> web
Yeah, that means me too, I guess.
[/shuffle]
;-)
Steve Gravrock
> Tips: you probably want the stem even or a bit above the saddle, but
> not as high as with a mustache bar. Regular reach seems fine--you
> might even want more to make the inner position totally normal and the
> far position more "aero". Seems like the best starting tilt is with
> the outer curves totally flat, this lets you grab the front position
> and rest your arms on the near to tuck out of the wind--nice!
I tried that setup and didn't like it. I spend most of my time on the
outsides, and having them flat put a bend in my wrist that I found
uncomfortable. Tilting the outsides down a bit from front to back works
much better for me.
> Beer run conclusion: hey, these are great--comfort wise they are A++.
> Style wise with black tape dialed in flat they look great--but from a
> stylists point of view--every accessory you add to them will Fred you
> out double what an accessory on a regular bar will. Trust me.
Thumb shifters on a trekking bar do that too.
Frank Drackman
"landotter" <land...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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The Nashbar website doesn't list a Trekking bar. Do you know what model you
have?
landotter
> The Nashbar website doesn't list a Trekking bar. Do you know what model you
> have?
$23
Took them out on the town today--the bike shop guys were highly
amused, D. called them "super freaky deaky". I like 'em more than I
thought I would --but I'm leaving the cables long in case the stair
climber look gets to me--might just have to get a set of Mary bars
instead.
A Muzi
>> The Nashbar website doesn't list a Trekking bar. Do you know what model you
>> have?
landotter wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/2l3dzd
> $23
> Took them out on the town today--the bike shop guys were highly
> amused, D. called them "super freaky deaky". I like 'em more than I
> thought I would --but I'm leaving the cables long in case the stair
> climber look gets to me--might just have to get a set of Mary bars
> instead.
"freaky deaky" ?
The only other person I know who used that term is Curtis Sliwa, WABC.
--
Andrew Muzi
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Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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landotter
> > "Frank Drackman" <frankdr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> The Nashbar website doesn't list a Trekking bar. Do you know what model you
> >> have?
> landotter wrote:
> >http://tinyurl.com/2l3dzd
> > $23
> > Took them out on the town today--the bike shop guys were highly
> > amused, D. called them "super freaky deaky". I like 'em more than I
> > thought I would --but I'm leaving the cables long in case the stair
> > climber look gets to me--might just have to get a set of Mary bars
> > instead.
>
> "freaky deaky" ?
> The only other person I know who used that term is Curtis Sliwa, WABC.
> --
D. is an iconoclast who's more than a LBS's friendly face, his latest
record makes the Clash's ¡Sandanista! seem MOR in comparison.
Hey, know which distributor has these? LBS was interested. They look
to solve a lot of problems for a lotta people--hence their huge
popularity overseas--a heck of a lot cheaper than a total shifter
system conversion.
carl...@comcast.net
wrote:
>"freaky deaky" ?
>The only other person I know who used that term is Curtis Sliwa, WABC.
Dear Andrew,
Read more Elmore Leonard novels:
http://www.harpercollins.com/book/index.aspx?isbn=9780688160968
Or wait for the movie:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0938305/
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
landotter
wrote:
> On 2008-07-24, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Tips: you probably want the stem even or a bit above the saddle, but
> > not as high as with a mustache bar. Regular reach seems fine--you
> > might even want more to make the inner position totally normal and the
> > far position more "aero". Seems like the best starting tilt is with
> > the outer curves totally flat, this lets you grab the front position
> > and rest your arms on the near to tuck out of the wind--nice!
>
> I tried that setup and didn't like it. I spend most of my time on the
> outsides, and having them flat put a bend in my wrist that I found
> uncomfortable. Tilting the outsides down a bit from front to back works
> much better for me.
>
Depends on how ya ride them for sure--these bars seem up for
personalisation big time. Rode them in the city twenty miles today and
still like mine flat,but I might agree with you in a month. I cruise
a lot in the front hooks and with my hands on top on the outer flats
but not gripping. Stem length and height might have a lot to do with
our opinions. ;-)
> > Beer run conclusion: hey, these are great--comfort wise they are A++.
> > Style wise with black tape dialed in flat they look great--but from a
> > stylists point of view--every accessory you add to them will Fred you
> > out double what an accessory on a regular bar will. Trust me.
>
> Thumb shifters on a trekking bar do that too.
Not so bad, but mirrors on stalks, GPS systems, etc;--the added
acreage of these bars invites accessory abuse. I got a ping bell on
mine--and even that is starting to look baad.
landotter
> Beer run conclusion: hey, these are great--comfort wise they are A++.
> Style wise with black tape dialed in flat they look great--but from a
> stylists point of view--every accessory you add to them will Fred you
> out double what an accessory on a regular bar will. Trust me.
Here's what my setup looks like:
Tom Kunich
AHHHHHH MY EYES!!!!!
Tom Sherman
Needs more accessories on the bars.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
“Mary had a little lamb / And when she saw it sicken /
She shipped it off to Packingtown / And now it’s labeled chicken.”
landotter
> "landotter" <landot...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Naah--I could have done much worse. Color splash Italian tape, a dorky
mirror, big ass GPS unit, banana bar bag...
Tom Kunich
You mean all the stuff that was done by a guy I ride with? Except he has TWO
large GPS units so that he can double check one against the other......
Clive George
>Here's what my setup looks like:
>
>http://i38.tinypic.com/1zp5w7p.jpg
Is that front rack functional? I see lowrider bosses on the fork - why not a
lowrider rack?
cheers,
clive
landotter
> "landotter" <landot...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:d07c919f-bfbd-43d4...@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>
> >Here's what my setup looks like:
>
> >http://i38.tinypic.com/1zp5w7p.jpg
>
> Is that front rack functional? I see lowrider bosses on the fork - why not a
> lowrider rack?
Aesthetics and function. From the side both racks are exactly level
and the same height, which is very pleasant, plus the front rack
serves as a mount for my front light which is epoxied to the
underside. Rear rack carries a swingover double bag nearly always and
front usually has an elastic cord. It's quite handy for items you need
to keep an eye on. It's not a distance bike, btw, but an urban utility
scoot.
Tom Kunich
>
> Aesthetics and function.
You don't have to apologize for poor taste in bicycle racks....
Tom Sherman
Mazzoleni hardly has posted at all the last couple of years.
Woland99
I had such bars on Novarra Viaggio - ancestor of Safari.
Hated them with passion - esp. for city riding - switching
from more extended position to brakes/shifters was dangerously
slow. Crashed and broke my elbow because of that. After I resumed
riding I replaced it with more upright "city" bars. They say those
supposed to be comfort type of bars but I had endless problems with
numb hands even on a short 11 miles commuting route. I have zero
problems with standard drop bars (and good gel gloves).
landotter
> On Jul 27, 2:23 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 23, 10:53 pm, I > wrote:
>
> > > Beer run conclusion: hey, these are great--comfort wise they are A++.
> > > Style wise with black tape dialed in flat they look great--but from a
> > > stylists point of view--every accessory you add to them will Fred you
> > > out double what an accessory on a regular bar will. Trust me.
>
> > Here's what my setup looks like:
>
> >http://i38.tinypic.com/1zp5w7p.jpg
>
> I had such bars on Novarra Viaggio - ancestor of Safari.
> Hated them with passion - esp. for city riding - switching
> from more extended position to brakes/shifters was dangerously
> slow.
I like 'em still for city riding--you certainly have to train you
muscle memory to remember that you have two similar positions--and one
has no levers--but it's not like it's more of a radical reach than if
you're riding tops on a set of drops and need to stop. The problem is
the duplicated style. I think that the fact that the further reach's
slight droop will imprint in my brain quickly enough to remember that
there is no lever there. I mainly use it for seated climbing anyway,
so it doesn't matter.
>Crashed and broke my elbow because of that. After I resumed
> riding I replaced it with more upright "city" bars. They say those
> supposed to be comfort type of bars but I had endless problems with
> numb hands even on a short 11 miles commuting route. I have zero
> problems with standard drop bars (and good gel gloves).
I find North Road and standard Swedish bars more comfy than riser mtb
bars for short trips--but I can still ride much further on a cut down
set of the latter w/o numbness. If it's non cut down vs NR bars, then
it's sort of a wash. Grips are pretty important to me. I like the
soft Kona ones and especially the Ritchey Tru-Grips.
I like drops, especially the randos on my Redline--but If I'm loaded
up with groceries and junk in the city, I prefer a big handful of mtb
lever.
m...@privacy.net
landotter
Nothing fancy, just a $400 Kona Dew from my LBS to fly under the radar
of the bike thieves around here that go for double doingers and discs.
Upgraded with hand built wheels, good tires, nice pedals, racks,
fenders, and the aforementioned bars--so while it might not look fancy
(which is the point in the city) it's rather perfect from a functional
perspective.
At any rate, similar moddable hybrids are available from many
manufacturers--heck, they're available for peanuts daily on Craigslist
for that matter.
Peter Cole
Did you know your bars are backwards?
Seriously, that style is similar to the formerly common MTB bars with
integrated bar ends, except the opening is forward rather than back. I
have a Scott AT-3 on my fixer. The benefit is that for honking, your
wrists are in a much more comfortable position on the outside of the
curves -- like a Stairmaster at the gym. I set up a similar bar for the
stoker position on a tandem I just built -- again for better balance
when climbing.
One of the things I became belatedly aware of is just how important it
is to match bar width to shoulder width. I had used old, narrow bars on
a few of my bikes. Increasing the bar widths 2-4" completely changed the
feel of the bikes. I should have done it years ago.
Ben Micklem
wrote on 28/7/08 13:43:
> landotter wrote:
>> http://i38.tinypic.com/1zp5w7p.jpg
>
> Did you know your bars are backwards?
Put "trekking bars" into google images. The majority of the first page have
them that way around. You can have them whichever way around, and at
whatever angle you like. It depends on what the frame geometry/stem angle
and length puts the bar clamp, and what positions you want to achieve.
Ben
landotter
> in article U9jjk.233$wS4.189@trnddc03, Peter Cole at peter_c...@verizon.net
> wrote on 28/7/08 13:43:
>
> > landotter wrote:
> >>http://i38.tinypic.com/1zp5w7p.jpg
>
> > Did you know your bars are backwards?
>
> Put "trekking bars" into google images. The majority of the first page have
> them that way around. You can have them whichever way around, and at
> whatever angle you like. It depends on what the frame geometry/stem angle
> and length puts the bar clamp, and what positions you want to achieve.
>
I think Peter was making a smilie-less joke, referring to the old
Scott bars. However, the trekking bars are really meant to be mounted
one way, with the open ends towards the rider. That said, Bob's yer
uncle, and go nuts--but mounting them with the ends out means that the
far flats have your wrists splaying hurdy gurdy.
A Muzi
>>> http://i38.tinypic.com/1zp5w7p.jpg
> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>> AHHHHHH MY EYES!!!!!
landotter wrote:
> Naah--I could have done much worse. Color splash Italian tape, a dorky
> mirror, big ass GPS unit, banana bar bag...
what no Cosmic Whirl?
landotter
> >> "landotter" <landot...@gmail.com> wrote
> >>> Here's what my setup looks like:
> >>>http://i38.tinypic.com/1zp5w7p.jpg
> > "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >> AHHHHHH MY EYES!!!!!
> landotter wrote:
> > Naah--I could have done much worse. Color splash Italian tape, a dorky
> > mirror, big ass GPS unit, banana bar bag...
>
> what no Cosmic Whirl?
>
Que?
Flashing sticker:
http://techgsm.com/Flashing_sticker_cosmic_whirl,30358.html
Or hazardous toy:
A Muzi
>>>>> Here's what my setup looks like:
>>>>> http://i38.tinypic.com/1zp5w7p.jpg
>>> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>>>> AHHHHHH MY EYES!!!!!
>> landotter wrote:
>>> Naah--I could have done much worse. Color splash Italian tape, a dorky
>>> mirror, big ass GPS unit, banana bar bag...
> A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>> what no Cosmic Whirl?
landotter wrote:
> Que?
> Flashing sticker:
> http://techgsm.com/Flashing_sticker_cosmic_whirl,30358.html
> Or hazardous toy:
> http://www.tintoyarcade.com/whirlo-cosmic-p-289.html
Once long ago the four-bladed propeller with precision rubber band
handlebar mounting clip was trademarked as "Cosmic Whirl" from Molor
Products Company, a sideline to their toothbrush covers. de rigeur for
intimidating the other riders at a century ride among other uses.
landotter
> >>>> "landotter" <landot...@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>>> Here's what my setup looks like:
> >>>>>http://i38.tinypic.com/1zp5w7p.jpg
> >>> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >>>> AHHHHHH MY EYES!!!!!
> >> landotter wrote:
> >>> Naah--I could have done much worse. Color splash Italian tape, a dorky
> >>> mirror, big ass GPS unit, banana bar bag...
> > A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> >> what no Cosmic Whirl?
> landotter wrote:
> > Que?
> > Flashing sticker:
> >http://techgsm.com/Flashing_sticker_cosmic_whirl,30358.html
> > Or hazardous toy:
> >http://www.tintoyarcade.com/whirlo-cosmic-p-289.html
>
> Once long ago the four-bladed propeller with precision rubber band
> handlebar mounting clip was trademarked as "Cosmic Whirl" from Molor
> Products Company, a sideline to their toothbrush covers. de rigeur for
> intimidating the other riders at a century ride among other uses.
I usually go for a pack of Lucky straights rolled in my jersey
sleeve. ;-)