Which Marzocchi fork?
DJM
I plan to replace the Judy XC (63mm) on my 97 M2 Comp. I, of course,
have heard nothing but great things about Marz forks so they seem a good
choice. So, I went to the Marz web site and have also looked at several
web retailer and I am totally confused as to which fork to buy. Super
Fly, Z1, 2, 3...BAMs, Atom Bombs, etc. *phew*
I do not race, do not plan on racing. I am super light weight (5'9"
under 150lbs) but I do ride pretty agressively. Since my M2 was
designed for a 63mm Judy, I think it makes sense to stick with a 70mm
Marz. I know Marz forks are a bit on the heavy side but the SuperFly is
about 3lbs and I can get one for $200. What about the other Marz forks?
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Dominic
Martin Schneider
Hi,
have a look at www.mtbr.com
There are hundreds of revievs.
DJM <dj...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Hello,
> Thanks,
> Dominic
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DJM <dj...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I plan to replace the Judy XC (63mm) on my 97 M2 Comp. I, of course,
> have heard nothing but great things about Marz forks so they seem a good
> choice. So, I went to the Marz web site and have also looked at several
> web retailer and I am totally confused as to which fork to buy. Super
> Fly, Z1, 2, 3...BAMs, Atom Bombs, etc. *phew*
>
> I do not race, do not plan on racing. I am super light weight (5'9"
> under 150lbs) but I do ride pretty agressively.
I wouldn't call that "super light." 140-150 lb is about average for a
mountain biker, right in the middle of the weight range that components are
designed for.
> Since my M2 was
> designed for a 63mm Judy, I think it makes sense to stick with a 70mm
> Marz. I know Marz forks are a bit on the heavy side but the SuperFly is
> about 3lbs and I can get one for $200. What about the other Marz forks?
> Any suggestions?
The Superfly is a great fork, especially for $200. It's better for an
agressive rider than a passive one. It's not as plush and doesn't bob as
much as the more softly sprung Z2, and there's a bit more stiction. It's
actually a really, really good fork for a heavier rider, but a more
aggressive rider who's lighter may prefer it. It is quite adjustable: all
you have to do to change the spring rate is add or release air. You may
wish to ride a regular Z2 first just to see which one you'd prefer, although
I'd be happy with either one.
You're on the right track with your concern about travel, and the height of
your fork. Too tall a fork will adversely affect your steering. Keep in
mind that Marzocchis are about half an inch taller than Judies for the same
(nominal) amount of travel. OTOH, Judies have a lot less travel than
advertised, and Marzocchis make better use of what they have, because of
their progressive spring rate. So, the shorter travel Marzocchi is probably
the better choice.
Matt O.
Peter Headland
> MTBR is that most people are just spouting off and clearly have no idea
> what they are talking about
So you came here instead? Hmm...
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DJM
Thanks for the tip but I have already looked a MTBR. The problem with
MTBR is that most people are just spouting off and clearly have no idea
what they are talking about -- it seems that far too many products
receive five stars.
Gruss,
Dominic
Martin Schneider wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> have a look at www.mtbr.com
> There are hundreds of revievs.
>
> DJM <dj...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
>
> > I plan to replace the Judy XC (63mm) on my 97 M2 Comp. I, of course,
> > have heard nothing but great things about Marz forks so they seem a good
> > choice. So, I went to the Marz web site and have also looked at several
> > web retailer and I am totally confused as to which fork to buy. Super
> > Fly, Z1, 2, 3...BAMs, Atom Bombs, etc. *phew*
>
> > I do not race, do not plan on racing. I am super light weight (5'9"
> > under 150lbs) but I do ride pretty agressively. Since my M2 was
> > designed for a 63mm Judy, I think it makes sense to stick with a 70mm
> > Marz. I know Marz forks are a bit on the heavy side but the SuperFly is
> > about 3lbs and I can get one for $200. What about the other Marz forks?
> > Any suggestions?
>
Doug Eli
The z1 series is for freeriding, downhill (singlecrown) and other long
travel applications. 100mm of travel and up
the z2 series are for XC
z2 alloy=80mm, heaviest
z2 BAM=80 mm, bit lighter (uses BAM material)
z2 Atom bomb=75mm, lightest (uses BAM in the Crown,~10lighter than z2
BAM) 3.5-3.6pounds approx.
The Superfly is the air sprung fork. No springs means it is lighter, but
not as plush initially (first "give" in the fork takes more force so smaller
hits are felt more than with a coil spring fork like the z2s). 75mm of
travel. 3.2 pounds approx.
The z3 is the lower end fork. they function the same as the z2s for the
most part but are heavier and much less adjustable and the adjustments you
can make are internal as opposed to external with the z2.
To sum up...a flow chart (sort of).
Long travel or short travel?
Long...sorry can't help you, I'm not very familiar with the long travel
forks. I can tell you that it will effect your handleing somewhat. If you
like tight handling bikes you won't like this.
Short travel.....smooth, super plush travel (but heavier and bobbing)? Or a
bit stiffer, non-bobbing travel?
Stiffer travel=Superfly (will be lighter too)
Smooth travel....light weight or basic?
Basic...z2 alloy
lighter...75mm of travel or 80mm?
75mm=Atom bomb
80mm=z2 BAM (most rides will not be able to detect the difference in hadling
this produces vs the 75mm. The decision here basically comes down to what
you can find and if you want 5mm of travel or 100g less weight)
Hope that helps.
Doug
PS, regaurding MTBR. There are too many 5 given out, but if you look at the
products that get 3 and under you will see that there is a significant
degree of accuracy. I and my riding friends try new parts all the time.
I'm amazed how well our observations have correlated with what you'll find
at MTBR. The best way to get the most objective assesment is to post in
techtalk.
Doug Eli
Keith Lukaszek
Atom Bomb at 70mm with 5mm negative travel. My Z2 Alloy owner's manual
says 60mm of travel.
Doug Eli wrote in message <3839AC5D...@bms.com>...
Doug Eli
fork up you can get 70mm-75mm of travel (if you have 75mm you use up your
negative travel...done by cranking the preload knobs all the way).
As for your z2 alloy manuel stating 60mm...no idea why that is. But they also
used to say the z2 was 3.5 pounds ;)
DJM
Yes, I came here -- what is wrong with seeking information from multiple
sources?
I have been reading MTBR for over three years; it is still a good site,
however, far too many posts are along the lines, "This XYZ product RULEZ
brau..." or, "That XYZ product SUX...".
Simply read the responses to my inquiry in this group and r.b.off-road
and you will see every post contains useful information, save for yours.
Cheers,
Dominic
Peter Headland wrote:
>
> > The problem with
> > MTBR is that most people are just spouting off and clearly have no idea
> > what they are talking about
>
TheBa...@hotmail.com
the low marks are from people who have never ridden it and think that
someone that spends that much money on a bike must be an idiot. I want one,
but I know I will never get one.
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