bike fit/geometry
Henry
She HAS to have this one - it's a mix of Dutch ancestry and loving
carbon :)
http://tinyurl.com/yk59e52
I have to import, found 1 in Aussie, UK and USA, no importer here in
NZL.
I can't afford to get it wrong. Her current ride is a Giant TCR 0.
I know her in-seam and can measure her Giant, and I _think_ the 52 is
the right choice, but the Felt web site doesn't have a glossary of
what their bike geometry terms mean.
thirty-six
> got to get this right, for the wife's birthday.
> She HAS to have this one - it's a mix of Dutch ancestry and loving
> I have to import, found 1 in Aussie, UK and USA, no importer here in
> NZL.
> I can't afford to get it wrong. Her current ride is a Giant TCR 0.
> I know her in-seam and can measure her Giant, and I _think_ the 52 is
> the right choice, but the Felt web site doesn't have a glossary of
> what their bike geometry terms mean.
HA 72 72.5 72.5 73 73 73 73
SA (rear position) 78 77.7 77.6 75.9 76.3 76.7 77
TT (rear position) 490 500 520 545 557 581 593
SA (front position) 80.1 79.8 79.7 77.9 78.2 78.5 78.8
TT (front position) 473 483 503 528 540 564 576
TT C-C 490 500 520 544.9 556.9 581.2 593.4
Head Tube 115 130 100 110 125 145 160
ST C-T 480 500 520 540 560 580 600
ST C-C 455 479 513 508 508 508 508
BB Drop 45 45 70 70 70 70 70
CS 385 385 405 405 405 405 405
Front Center 562 567.6 588.6 595.5 611.6 640.3 656.6
Wheelbase 947 951.9 984 990.5 1007.1 1036.3 1052.4
Rake 35 35 40 40 40 40 40
Standover 703 720 743 764 779 780 780
Crank Length 170 170 170 172.5 172.5 175 175
Stem 60 80 90 100 100 110 110
H-bar 400 400 400 420 420 440 440
Seat Post 310 310 310 310 310 310 310
TT top tube C-C centre to centre (of head and seat tube)
position relating to saddle positioning extremeties.
ST seat tube
BB drop bottom bracket drop below axles
CS chainstay
HA head tube angle
SA seat (tube) angle
Front centre erm . . . Bottom bracket to front axle
wheelbase distance between axles
rake offset of axle point to steering centre
standover distance from ground to top of top tube
Stem Handlebar stem forward extension
H-bar handlebar width
Seat post maximum extension top tube to saddle rail
Check that the saddle position on your wifes current bike is not
rammed all the way forward or all the way back, it could mean that she
was unable to find the best position. If there is obviously some
leeway, then ensure that this postion is obtainable with the new
bike. Confirm with the supplier the accuracy of the dimensions and
order on the basis that the bike will be supplied to these quoted
dimensions.
Robert Chung
> I can't afford to get it wrong. Her current ride is a Giant TCR 0.
> I know her in-seam and can measure her Giant, and I _think_ the 52 is
> the right choice, but the Felt web site doesn't have a glossary of
> what their bike geometry terms mean.
Does her TCR fit? If so, measure its stack and reach and figure out which
Felt comes closest.
RicodJour
> got to get this right, for the wife's birthday.
> She HAS to have this one - it's a mix of Dutch ancestry and loving
> I have to import, found 1 in Aussie, UK and USA, no importer here in
> NZL.
> I can't afford to get it wrong. Her current ride is a Giant TCR 0.
> I know her in-seam and can measure her Giant, and I _think_ the 52 is
> the right choice, but the Felt web site doesn't have a glossary of
> what their bike geometry terms mean.
Is it safe to assume your wife is also of Dutch and carbon
ancestry...?
You owe me. I am avoiding all lascivious references. :)
I like the Felt web site's "Huge View" button. I'll click on anything
that says Huge View.
R
Mike Jacoubowsky
news:ac8e4332-03d0-4d4e...@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Buying a bike without riding it first, especially a speciality bike, is
risky. Geometry specs don't tell the whole story.
You live in NZ, the bike is in OZ. Why not make it a combo birthday present
and include a trip to OZ?
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
Norman
wrote:
> "Henry" <snogfest_hosebe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ac8e4332-03d0-4d4e...@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > got to get this right, for the wife's birthday.
> > She HAS to have this one - it's a mix of Dutch ancestry and loving
> > carbon :)
> >http://tinyurl.com/yk59e52
> > I have to import, found 1 in Aussie, UK and USA, no importer here in
> > NZL.
> > I can't afford to get it wrong. Her current ride is a Giant TCR 0.
> > I know her in-seam and can measure her Giant, and I _think_ the 52 is
> > the right choice, but the Felt web site doesn't have a glossary of
> > what their bike geometry terms mean.
>
> Buying a bike without riding it first, especially a speciality bike, is
> risky. Geometry specs don't tell the whole story.
>
> You live in NZ, the bike is in OZ. Why not make it a combo birthday present
> and include a trip to OZ?
>
"All people think that New Zealand is close to Australia or Asia, or
some-
where, and that you cross to it on a bridge."
Steve Freides
Roughly the same flight as New York to Miami, isn't it, about 1000 miles
or so? That's not _that_ big a deal to do for a birthday, IMHO.
-S-
Tom Sherman °_°
Felt is for winter boot liners, not bicycles.
--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
RicodJour
<twshermanREM...@THISsouthslope.net> wrote:
>
> Felt is for winter boot liners, not bicycles.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
Hey. Can you provide one extra digit of accuracy in the coordinates?
My cruise missile needs seven places. Thanks!
R
Tom Sherman °_°
bjwe...@gmail.com
For George Mallory maybe. If you really want to survive
a Midwestern winter, ditch the Felt and get something
with foam or Alveolite:
http://www.rei.com/product/780182
Sierra Trading Post has a few sizes at about half price BTW.
Henry, a Giant TCR 0 is a standard road bike (as far as
I know) and the Felt B16 you linked to is a purpose built
triathlon bike. These will fit completely differently. I would
not recommend replacing one with the other unless
your wife already has the seat slammed all the way
forward on the TCR 0, uses aerobars (feh) all the time,
and is aware that this is a potential nightmare.
For example, the seat tube angle on a size M current
Giant TCR 0 Alliance is 73 deg, but the seat tube
angle on the Felt B16 size 52 is 77.6-79.7 deg
(two positions). This means that the saddle
default position is about 5 cm further forward
relative to the bottom bracket on the Felt B16
than on the Giant.
The top tube lengths are also different and they
have different bar types, so the saddle to bar
reach is a bit unpredictable, but it's clear that
the relation between hips and feet will be very
different.
If she already has a fairly comfortable position on the
Giant and is not a hardcore 99% aerobar user, you
should be looking at a Felt that is more of a road bike.
Ben
Ryan Cousineau
<322e32bf-e4fb-431c...@g23g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>,
RicodJour <rico...@worldemail.com> wrote:
Huge View is . . . fairly huge (1400x866), but why is it a PNG?
--
Ryan Cousineau rcou...@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."
Norman
> In article
> <322e32bf-e4fb-431c-af13-26c6f71b8...@g23g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>,
>
> RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> > On Oct 24, 5:13 am, Henry <snogfest_hosebe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > got to get this right, for the wife's birthday.
> > > She HAS to have this one - it's a mix of Dutch ancestry and loving
> > > carbon :)http://tinyurl.com/yk59e52
> > > I have to import, found 1 in Aussie, UK and USA, no importer here in
> > > NZL.
> > > I can't afford to get it wrong. Her current ride is a Giant TCR 0.
> > > I know her in-seam and can measure her Giant, and I _think_ the 52 is
> > > the right choice, but the Felt web site doesn't have a glossary of
> > > what their bike geometry terms mean.
>
> > Is it safe to assume your wife is also of Dutch and carbon
> > ancestry...?
> > You owe me. I am avoiding all lascivious references. :)
>
> > I like the Felt web site's "Huge View" button. I'll click on anything
> > that says Huge View.
>
> > R
>
> Huge View is . . . fairly huge (1400x866), but why is it a PNG?
>
PNG is lossless and offers better compression, colour support,
& transparency than GIF. Also, JPEG is encumbered:
http://graphicssoft.about.com/b/2004/04/23/31-companies-sued-for-jpeg-patent-infringement.htm
oder
http://tinyurl.com/lunklunk
Tom Sherman °_°
> On Oct 24, 11:28 am, Tom Sherman �_�
> <twshermanREM...@THISsouthslope.net> wrote:
>> Henry the Hosebeast wrote:
>>> got to get this right, for the wife's birthday.
>>> She HAS to have this one - it's a mix of Dutch ancestry and loving
>>> carbon :)
>>> http://tinyurl.com/yk59e52
>>> I have to import, found 1 in Aussie, UK and USA, no importer here in
>>> NZL.
>>> I can't afford to get it wrong. Her current ride is a Giant TCR 0.
>>> I know her in-seam and can measure her Giant, and I _think_ the 52 is
>>> the right choice, but the Felt web site doesn't have a glossary of
>>> what their bike geometry terms mean.
>> Felt is for winter boot liners, not bicycles.
>
> For George Mallory maybe. If you really want to survive
> a Midwestern winter, ditch the Felt and get something
> with foam or Alveolite:
> http://www.rei.com/product/780182
I used to work outside all day in the Wisconsin winter wearing Sorel
Caribou boots (with felt liners) and did fine, as long as I remembered
to dry the liners overnight.
RicodJour
wrote:
> On Oct 24, 11:28 am, Tom Sherman °_°
>
>
> For George Mallory maybe. If you really want to survive
> a Midwestern winter, ditch the Felt and get something
> with foam or Alveolite:
> http://www.rei.com/product/780182
> Sierra Trading Post has a few sizes at about half price BTW.
Sweet! Are they Look compatible?
R
Mike Jacoubowsky
>>> is risky. Geometry specs don't tell the whole story.
>>>
>>> You live in NZ, the bike is in OZ. Why not make it a combo birthday
>>> present and include a trip to OZ?
>>>
>>
>> "All people think that New Zealand is close to Australia or Asia, or
>> some-
>> where, and that you cross to it on a bridge."
>
> Roughly the same flight as New York to Miami, isn't it, about 1000 miles
> or so? That's not _that_ big a deal to do for a birthday, IMHO.
Exactly. People go to much greater lengths than that for birthdays, and if
you want to really do something right, well then you just got to do
something right. Not that I would know much about that; I've never thought
birthdays to be anything all that special, so my wife gets the short end of
such things. On the other hand, I'm taking her to Australia (from
California) in two weeks for a combo birthday/30th wedding anniversary, so
she won't have too much to complain about *this* time.
But yes, in the grand scheme of things, NZ and OZ are pretty darned close.
The main problem is the language barrier.
bjwe...@gmail.com
Almost! After all, it all began with
http://www.porterstahoe.com/brands/LOOK.asp
but I think with those boots you might want
Silvrettas instead:
http://knradventuregear.com/images/ski_bindings/silvretta404.jpg
http://www.wildsnow.com/backcountry-ski-museum/silvretta-404-backcountry-skiing/silvretta-404-backcountry.html
http://tinyurl.com/silvretta404
Mounting these to a FELT is left as an
exercise for the reader.
Ben
carl...@comcast.net
<Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
[snip]
>But yes, in the grand scheme of things, NZ and OZ are pretty darned close.
>The main problem is the language barrier.
>
>--Mike Jacoubowsky
>Chain Reaction Bicycles
>www.ChainReaction.com
>Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
Dear Mike,
I always enjoy reminding my sister, who married a kiwi and spent years
there, that Mark Twain put New Zealand firmly on the map with his tale
of the Yale faculty's search for someone who knew enough about the
place to chat with a visitor from New Zealand:
"I found that I knew nothing about New Zealand. 1 thought I knew where
it was, and that was all. I had an impression that it was close to
Australia, or Asia, or somewhere, and that one went over to it on a
bridge. . . ."
"I ran to Lawson, but was disappointed. He did not know anything about
New Zealand. He said that, as far as his recollection went it was
close to Australia, or Asia, or somewhere, and you go over to it on a
bridge; but that was all he knew. . . ."
"Presently Lawson decided that we must try the rest of the
Faculty�-some of them might know about New Zealand. So we went to the
telephone and called up the professor of astronomy and asked him, and
he said that all he knew was, that it was close to Australia, or Asia,
or somewhere, and you went over to it on-�"
"We shut him off and called up the professor of biology, and he said
that all he knew was that it was close to Aus�-"
http://tinyurl.com/ykr3xmf
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
Anton Berlin
wrote:
> On Oct 24, 2:13 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 24, 3:56 pm, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <bjwei...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Oct 24, 11:28 am, Tom Sherman °_°
>
> > > > Felt is for winter boot liners, not bicycles.
>
> > > For George Mallory maybe. If you really want to survive
> > > a Midwestern winter, ditch the Felt and get something
> > > with foam or Alveolite:
> > > http://www.rei.com/product/780182
> > > Sierra Trading Post has a few sizes at about half price BTW.
>
> > Sweet! Are they Look compatible?
>
> Almost! After all, it all began with
>
> http://www.porterstahoe.com/brands/LOOK.asp
>
> but I think with those boots you might want
> Silvrettas instead:
>
> http://knradventuregear.com/images/ski_bindings/silvretta404.jpg
>
>
> Mounting these to a FELT is left as an
> exercise for the reader.
>
> Ben
Look pivots are the binding of choice IMHO. I have two pairs of
Dynastar Avants with them
Peter Howard
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote in message
news:196dneG3Cu_m737X...@earthlink.com...
Then there was the NZ cyclist who is riding his bike on the boardwalk when he
notices an old brass lamp half buried in the sand. Well, when the genie appears
in a puff of smoke he says "Okay, you know the score, three wishes."
The cyclist says "Build me a bridge to Australia because I want to ride across
the ocean to vist my sister."
The genie says "Have you any idea what the engineering complications are and the
quantity of steel and concrete I'd need? It's not possible! Try another wish"
The cyclist says "Okay, tell me what women really want."
The genie says "Um, ahh.... How long was that bridge supposed to be?"
What are you planning to do in Ozland, Mike?
Mike Jacoubowsky
news:E7MEm.49736$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Sadly, there will be no riding. We'll be arriving on a Monday morning and
spending two days in Sydney, then flying to the Red Center for a few days at
Uluru (the Big Red Rock), the Brisbane to see the Koala Sanctuary and the
Steve Irwin Zoo, and finally on to Melbourne which was originally just a
departure point but we're squeezing in the Penguin Parade.
My idea was to spend a week on the Big Island of Hawaii and hike the Volcano
area, getting away from crowds and such. But OZ was on my wife's list of
things to do. Sure wish it didn't involve a 14 hour flight getting there.
Wish even more that I was able to sleep on a plane!
Great genie piece, by the way. :-)
RicodJour
wrote:
>
> Sure wish it didn't involve a 14 hour flight getting there.
> Wish even more that I was able to sleep on a plane!
Eye shades and ear plugs, my friend.
R
z
Works for some people.
I used to have to take 2 Halcyon and drink three beers. Even then I
wouldn't stay asleep for more than 3 hours and I'd wake up sharp.
Peter Howard
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote in message
Australia's first city and then a place significant to the first Australians.
Walk close to Uluru at dusk and you will experience a satisfyingly creepy
feeling. Step back and the sandstone looks like liquid fire in the light of the
setting sun.
In TV coverage about last years Tour Down Under around Adelaide we saw some
European pros on an organised trip to an animal sanctuary. They looked genuinely
thrilled to be holding a koala or feeding wallabies. I tend to think of them as
supermen but they were just nice looking youngsters in their twenties who seemed
happy to be doing something that had nothing to do with their work. I'm sure
you'll enjoy the Steve Irwin Zoo just as much. Its won lots of awards.
BTW, Lance is back for the 2010 TDU. Last year they got 8,000 entrants for the
amateur ride over the course which was twice as many as in previous years. The
organisers are very happy about Lance's drawcard power.
PH
Anton Berlin
wrote:
> --Mike Jacoubowsky
> Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com
> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA"Peter Howard" <bbrover...@bbbigpond.net.au> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
Mike, I've spent 6 months in Oz and I would seriously consider
writing off all of that Steve Irwin shit even if I had all the time in
the world. You're better off spending the effort to either get a real
expereince in Queensland or for that matter go to NZ south island
It's tough to do any justice in 10 days though.
Anton Berlin
wrote:
> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5KadnbhoOfyAD37X...@earthlink.com...
>
>
>
> > --Mike Jacoubowsky
> > Chain Reaction Bicycles
> >www.ChainReaction.com
> > Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
>
> - Show quoted text -
Fuck man, spring for business class. It's worth every penny (or ff
mile) because coach will leave you wiped out for two days.
Ryan Cousineau
<add5aab0-c3f3-4e41...@l35g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
Norman <invasiv...@gmail.com> wrote:
Those aren't terrible answers, but a JPEG version of that pic would be
smaller for the same visual quality (lossy compression of photos being
what JPEG lives for).
However, a quick examination of the Huge View image explained why they
used PNG: transparent background, which probably makes their web nerd
happy.
Robert Chung
>> Wish even more that I was able to sleep on a plane!
>>
> Yeah, me too, but the passengers kept complaining :)
You're a pilot for Northwest?
bjwe...@gmail.com
> On Oct 24, 4:53 pm, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <bjwei...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 24, 2:13 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Oct 24, 3:56 pm, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <bjwei...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > For George Mallory maybe. If you really want to survive
> > > > a Midwestern winter, ditch the Felt and get something
> > > > with foam or Alveolite:
> > > > http://www.rei.com/product/780182
> > > > Sierra Trading Post has a few sizes at about half price BTW.
>
> > > Sweet! Are they Look compatible?
>
> > Almost! After all, it all began with
>
> >http://www.porterstahoe.com/brands/LOOK.asp
>
> > but I think with those boots you might want
> > Silvrettas instead:
>
> >http://knradventuregear.com/images/ski_bindings/silvretta404.jpg
>
> >http://www.wildsnow.com/backcountry-ski-museum/silvretta-404-backcoun...
>
> > exercise for the reader.
>
> > Ben
>
> Look pivots are the binding of choice IMHO. I have two pairs of
> Dynastar Avants with them
Unfortunately, I really know little about downhill skiing.
My experience is mostly trying to turn skinny XC skis and
falling down a bunch
I recently got a pair of fatter touring skis with cable
bindings, which is kind of like saying you just upgraded
to toe straps.
Ben
Donald Munro
>>> Wish even more that I was able to sleep on a plane!
>> Yeah, me too, but the passengers kept complaining :)
Robert Chung wrote:
> You're a pilot for Northwest?
You need to provide a statistical cost function revealing whether pilots
who fall asleep on the job are worse than doctors who don't have good
hand hygiene (or doctors who fall asleep on the job versus pilots with
bad hand hygiene).
Henry
wrote:
> Henry wrote:
> > I can't afford to get it wrong. Her current ride is a Giant TCR 0.
> > I know her in-seam and can measure her Giant, and I _think_ the 52 is
> > the right choice, but the Felt web site doesn't have a glossary of
> > what their bike geometry terms mean.
>
> Felt comes closest.
stack and reach ?
Henry
> Norman wrote:
> > On Oct 24, 1:35 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
> > wrote:
> >> "Henry" <snogfest_hosebe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:ac8e4332-03d0-4d4e...@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>> got to get this right, for the wife's birthday.
> >>> She HAS to have this one - it's a mix of Dutch ancestry and loving
> >>> carbon :)
> >>>http://tinyurl.com/yk59e52
> >>> I have to import, found 1 in Aussie, UK and USA, no importer here in
> >>> NZL.
> >>> I know her in-seam and can measure her Giant, and I _think_ the 52
> >>> is the right choice, but the Felt web site doesn't have a glossary
> >>> of what their bike geometry terms mean.
>
> >> is risky. Geometry specs don't tell the whole story.
>
> >> You live in NZ, the bike is in OZ. Why not make it a combo birthday
> >> present and include a trip to OZ?
>
> > "All people think that New Zealand is close to Australia or Asia, or
> > some-
> > where, and that you cross to it on a bridge."
>
> Roughly the same flight as New York to Miami, isn't it, about 1000 miles
> or so? That's not _that_ big a deal to do for a birthday, IMHO.
>
there's still the Language Barrier :)
it makes a reasonably priced purchase an expensive purchase.
Henry
wrote:> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA"Peter Howard" <bbrover...@bbbigpond.net.au> wrote in message
been to the Steve Irwin thing twice. Loved it. It's getting very warm
there ATM.
Henry
wrote:
> --Mike Jacoubowsky
> Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com
come to Wellington and you can bring my wife's bike with you :)
Tom Kunich
news:d5674fc1-8702-4d06...@t11g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
He means seat height from the center of the crank along the seat tube and
distance from the saddle center (if the seat is centered above the seat
post) to the center of the handlebar. Remember that you can change the reach
somewhat with a longer or shorter stem and by moving the seat back and forth
a little on the seat post.
The front of the knee should be over the pedal axle when the crank is full
forward. That's the correct saddle position. But you can vary from that
somewhat though if you can avoid it do so. However, women are difficult to
fit on a lot of bikes because men tend to have longer upper bodies for their
height and so most frames have a relatively long top tube.
Henry
wrote:
> On Oct 24, 11:28 am, Tom Sherman °_°
>
> > Henry the Hosebeast wrote:
> > > She HAS to have this one - it's a mix of Dutch ancestry and loving
> > > carbon :)
> > >http://tinyurl.com/yk59e52
> > > I have to import, found 1 in Aussie, UK and USA, no importer here in
> > > NZL.
> > > I know her in-seam and can measure her Giant, and I _think_ the 52 is
> > > the right choice, but the Felt web site doesn't have a glossary of
> > > what their bike geometry terms mean.
>
>
> a Midwestern winter, ditch the Felt and get something
> with foam or Alveolite:
> http://www.rei.com/product/780182
> Sierra Trading Post has a few sizes at about half price BTW.
>
> I know) and the Felt B16 you linked to is a purpose built
> triathlon bike. These will fit completely differently. I would
> not recommend replacing one with the other unless
> your wife already has the seat slammed all the way
> forward on the TCR 0, uses aerobars (feh) all the time,
> and is aware that this is a potential nightmare.
>
> For example, the seat tube angle on a size M current
> Giant TCR 0 Alliance is 73 deg, but the seat tube
> angle on the Felt B16 size 52 is 77.6-79.7 deg
> (two positions). This means that the saddle
> default position is about 5 cm further forward
> relative to the bottom bracket on the Felt B16
> than on the Giant.
>
> The top tube lengths are also different and they
> have different bar types, so the saddle to bar
> reach is a bit unpredictable, but it's clear that
> the relation between hips and feet will be very
> different.
>
> If she already has a fairly comfortable position on the
> Giant and is not a hardcore 99% aerobar user, you
> should be looking at a Felt that is more of a road bike.
>
> Ben
thanks for the comments Ben.
She likes the colour, it's a Girl Thing. My job is to deliver. The
Kiwi $ is sky-high against the USD$ ATM so it makes a good deal.
It's here
http://adrenalinetrisport.com/store/search/brand/Felt-Racing/
for $1609 + handling and shipping = USD$2009 - that's about NZD$2600.
I can't get in in Aussie for less than NZD$4000
Yes, she does have aero bars on her Giant. Got setup at a local bike
shop with a P/C & video system called Dialed in Motion, which
(apparently) measures all the right lengths and angles.
Robert Chung
> "Henry" <snogfest_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> stack and reach ?
>
> He means seat height from the center of the crank along the seat tube
> and distance from the saddle center (if the seat is centered above
> the seat post) to the center of the handlebar.
Um, no, I don't. http://www.google.com/search?q=stack+reach
Tom Kunich
news:hc5nmn$n83$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
And here all this time I supposed you actually had an idea what you were
talking about.
Mike Jacoubowsky
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been to the Steve Irwin thing twice. Loved it. It's getting very warm
there ATM.
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Thanks, glad to hear it!
I'm going to be doing way too much flying in the days ahead. Trip to
Wisconsin tomorrow night, get back Tuesday, then Saturday off to
Australia.
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
Tim McNamara
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
> I'm going to be doing way too much flying in the days ahead. Trip to
> Wisconsin tomorrow night, get back Tuesday, then Saturday off to
> Australia.
Going to the Packers-Vikings game?
AMuzi
Stop in if you are in the neighborhood. We have a diminished
but still impressive Halloween. The do-gooders keep trying
to suck the life out of it:
http://www.waxingamerica.com/2006/10/madison_hallowe.html
No longer as free-spirited as Peter's, but still:
http://nakedpumpkinrun.org/
--
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<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
Mike Jacoubowsky
> spending two days in Sydney, then flying to the Red Center for a few days
> at
> Uluru (the Big Red Rock), the Brisbane to see the Koala Sanctuary and the
> Steve Irwin Zoo, and finally on to Melbourne which was originally just a
> departure point but we're squeezing in the Penguin Parade.
>
> My idea was to spend a week on the Big Island of Hawaii and hike the
> Volcano
> area, getting away from crowds and such. But OZ was on my wife's list of
> things to do. Sure wish it didn't involve a 14 hour flight getting there.
> Wish even more that I was able to sleep on a plane!
>
> Great genie piece, by the way. :-)
>
> --Mike Jacoubowsky
> Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com
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>>Mike, I've spent 6 months in Oz and I would seriously consider
>>writing off all of that Steve Irwin shit even if I had all the time in
>>the world. You're better off spending the effort to either get a real
>>expereince in Queensland or for that matter go to NZ south island
>>
>>It's tough to do any justice in 10 days though. <Anton Berlin>
Well I'm back, and it was quite the whirlwind tour, but it all worked out.
A day and a half in Sydney (have no real urge to go back; especially
wasteful was the "Tower of Oz" at night... might have been fine in the
daytime, but the morons have too many lights on inside, so the reflections
off the inside of the glass kill your ability to see out. If you want an
example of how to do it right, go to the formerly-known-as Sears Tower in
Chicago. We walked across the bridge at night, did the Opera House tour
(something that you really do have to do if you're in Sydney), and one of
the harbor commuter ferries at sunset, which was pretty cool (and cheap).
Spent too much money on inadequate food and poor service at a place in "The
Rocks."
Then flew to Alice Springs and then on to Ayer's Rock. Read all about my
view of Ayer's Rock here - http://www.chainreaction.com/ayers_rock.htm. If
you go to the Red Center and spend any time at Ayer's Resort, I highly
recomment the same place everybody else does- the cook-it-yourself BBQ at
the Pioneer Lodge. Great way to meet people and talk about their travels.
Then it was on to Brisbane, the one place in Australia I would love to go
back to. Awesome city, built for people who want to be outdoors. Incredibly
beautiful skyline along the river, and 500k of bike trails & paths. They've
got as many bike/ped bridges over the river as those for cars, and all of
the car bridges also had cycling accomodations on them. This city really
seems to have done it right. We visited the Lone Pine Koala Sanctuary one
day, and the Steve Irwin Australia Zoo the next. Both are worthwhile, but
it's definitely a more personal experience at Lone Pine.
Then on to Melbourne, which we didn't see a whole lot of because we flew in
around noon, and then left for a trip to the Penguin Parade at 4pm
(returning just prior to Midnight). We left the next morning to come home.
A few more days and we could have included Cairns and the Great Barrier
Reef. A week or two more and we could have done the place justice (but
thoroughly emptied the bank account; Australia is NOT a cheap place to
visit, not with the current exchange rate for the US dollar, nearly
one-to-one now).
No great drama except for United Airlines misplacing my luggage for a few
days, but found a place in Sydney with inexpensive decent clothing (Lowe's).
Fantastic internet connectivity using a prepaid 3G wireless USB thingee from
Telstra; ended up being cheaper and more convenient than the
outrageously-overpriced rates they charge in the hotels (generally
$30/day!!!).
Gained almost half a pound/day not riding. Ouch! Still felt darned good to
get back on a bike when home.
Andre Jute
wrote:
> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
Thanks for the report, Fatso <g>. I'm glad to hear about Brisbane --
the last time I was there I wasn't a cyclist and thus probably didn't
notice what a great place it is. Pity that you missed out on seeing
Melbourne, the most beautiful of the Australian cities, and Adelaide,
the friendliest. Actually, all the cities have something to recommend
them, even Sydney (only tourists eat in Manley; smart people go find
the cheap Hungarian restaurants up the hill behind the Opera House).
Don't get me started on the many attractions of Australia.
Andre Jute
Ocker when I wish it