Learn about the the fastest growing religion in the World
jony
Learn about the the fastest growing religion in the World
andre...@aol.com
> Learn about the the fastest growing religion in the World
>
> http://www.i-g.org/
I rather Imagine John Lennon.
AMuzi
> Learn about the the fastest growing religion in the World
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6e/Touched_by_His_Noodly_Appendage.jpg
--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
landotter
> Learn about the the fastest growing religion in the World
>
> http://www.i-g.org/
Is it a grower, not a shower?
Bill Sornson
"The Arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some
places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the
Commerce Department yesterday from Consulate, at Bergen, Norway . Reports
from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers, he declared, all point to a
radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in
the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has
been met with as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of
3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm. Great masses of ice
have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued,
while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared. Very few
seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals
of herring and smelts, which have never before ventured so far north, are
being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds."
I'm sorry, I neglected to mention that this report was from November 2, 1922
as reported by the AP and published in The Washington Post.
Read all about it:
http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/changing-artic_monthly_wx_review.png
(click to enlarge print).
Bill "impending DOOM I tells ya" S.
Peter Cole
> Global Warming Alarmism isn't really growing any more, nor is it new:
Give it a rest.
landotter
>
> Read all about it:http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/changing-artic_mon...
Still can't provide a single reputable source for the bullshit you
believe in? LMAO
A right wing weatherman without a college degree? hahahahaha!
Neither you nor Jute has a single reputable source for your radical
dogmatism. But you're still awfully entrenched.
Perhaps you *should* try Islam! Not much difference. Passion without
evidence.
AMuzi
Things are tough all over:
http://www.justnews.com/news/22152242/detail.html
Gene, call home. The iguanas are frozen.
landotter
> Bill Sornson wrote:
> > Global Warming Alarmism isn't really growing any more, nor is it new:
>
> > "The Arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some
> > places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the
> > Commerce Department yesterday from Consulate, at Bergen, Norway . Reports
> > from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers, he declared, all point to a
> > radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in
> > the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has
> > been met with as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of
> > 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm. Great masses of ice
> > have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued,
> > while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared. Very few
> > seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals
> > of herring and smelts, which have never before ventured so far north, are
> > being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds."
>
> > I'm sorry, I neglected to mention that this report was from November 2, 1922
> > as reported by the AP and published in The Washington Post.
>
> > Read all about it:
> > (click to enlarge print).
>
> Things are tough all over:http://www.justnews.com/news/22152242/detail.html
>
> Gene, call home. The iguanas are frozen.
Isolated individual weather events are just that.
Meanwhile, there's a heatwave down under:
http://www.abc.net.au/rural/news/content/201001/s2789453.htm
Bill Sornson
LOL Yeah, I heard about that. Oh, the iguanity...
MEANWHILE,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1242011/DAVID-ROSE-The-mini-ice-age-starts-here.html.
Bill "and so it goes" S.
Chalo
>
> AMuzi wrote:
> >
> > Bill Sornson wrote:
> > >
> > > Global Warming Alarmism isn't really growing any more, nor is it new:
> > >
> > > "The Arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some
> > > places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the
> > > [snip]
> > > I'm sorry, I neglected to mention that this report was from November 2, 1922
> > > as reported by the AP and published in The Washington Post.
> > >
> > > Read all about it:
> > > http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/changing-artic_mon...
> >
> >
> > Gene, call home. The iguanas are frozen.
>
> Isolated individual weather events are just that.
>
> Meanwhile, there's a heatwave down under:
>
> http://www.abc.net.au/rural/news/content/201001/s2789453.htm
Here in Central Texas, the hottest three months on record were during
the summer of 2009. The second hottest summer on record was the
summer of 2008. Yet at the moment we're experiencing an uncommonly
cold spell. It feels unfair to me in my tiny, drafty 1920 shack with
no climate control. If I have to withstand a brutal summer, I want to
be compensated by a balmy winter.
I think it takes a certain amount of dipshittedness to fail to
recognize (or refuse to acknowledge) that atmospheric heat is what
propels weather systems, and thus increasing atmospheric heat is apt
to cause more severe weather on average, of both the cold and hot
varieties. It borders on hilarious that because there's snow in the
winter, the Limbaugh/Becktards start crowing in unison about how
global warming is all a hoax and therefore everybody should pollute as
much as they want.
But they do it on cue. For thirty years or more we've been learning
about and discussing the details of the greenhouse effect and human
pollution's contribution to it, and for all that time these
ignoramuses were either oblivious or couldn't care less. But now that
the corporate disinformation machine has it on the agenda, they can't
stop spouting about it-- just like they do with every other passing
hater fad. I can't wait for them to get the hell over it, but I
reckon it will only be by moving on to something equally noxious and
socially harmful.
Chalo
Andre Jute
> Bill Sornson wrote:
> > Global Warming Alarmism isn't really growing any more, nor is it new:
>
> > "The Arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some
> > places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the
> > Commerce Department yesterday from Consulate, at Bergen, Norway . Reports
> > from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers, he declared, all point to a
> > radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in
> > the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has
> > been met with as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of
> > 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm. Great masses of ice
> > have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued,
> > while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared. Very few
> > seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals
> > of herring and smelts, which have never before ventured so far north, are
> > being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds."
>
> > I'm sorry, I neglected to mention that this report was from November 2, 1922
> > as reported by the AP and published in The Washington Post.
>
> > Read all about it:
> > (click to enlarge print).
>
> Things are tough all over:http://www.justnews.com/news/22152242/detail.html
>
> Gene, call home. The iguanas are frozen.
>
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
On Jan 11, 7:45 pm, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> Bill Sornson wrote:
> > Global Warming Alarmism isn't really growing any more, nor is it new:
>
> > "The Arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some
> > places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the
> > Commerce Department yesterday from Consulate, at Bergen, Norway . Reports
> > from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers, he declared, all point to a
> > radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in
> > the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has
> > been met with as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of
> > 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm. Great masses of ice
> > have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued,
> > while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared. Very few
> > seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals
> > of herring and smelts, which have never before ventured so far north, are
> > being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds."
>
> > I'm sorry, I neglected to mention that this report was from November 2, 1922
> > as reported by the AP and published in The Washington Post.
>
> > Read all about it:
> >http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/changing-artic_mon...
> > (click to enlarge print).
>
> Things are tough all over:http://www.justnews.com/news/22152242/detail.html
>
> Gene, call home. The iguanas are frozen.
>
You just don't know how silly and unsophisticated your conclusion is,
Andrew. If you had a degree in Dendrochronology (called Damned Lies
only at inferior universities), you would understand that frozen
iguanas are the natural and inevitable result of global warming caused
by manmade CO2, which sucks the heat out their sweet little bodies.
Andre Jute
We should ban all cars right now to save the iguanas from extinction
Edward Dolan
"Chalo" <chalo....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:2b9df2ef-883a-436e...@a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
[...]
> Here in Central Texas, the hottest three months on record were during
> the summer of 2009. The second hottest summer on record was the
> summer of 2008. Yet at the moment we're experiencing an uncommonly
> cold spell. It feels unfair to me in my tiny, drafty 1920 shack with
> no climate control. If I have to withstand a brutal summer, I want to
> be compensated by a balmy winter.
>
> I think it takes a certain amount of dipshittedness to fail to
> recognize (or refuse to acknowledge) that atmospheric heat is what
> propels weather systems, and thus increasing atmospheric heat is apt
> to cause more severe weather on average, of both the cold and hot
> varieties. It borders on hilarious that because there's snow in the
> winter, the Limbaugh/Becktards start crowing in unison about how
> global warming is all a hoax and therefore everybody should pollute as
> much as they want.
>
> But they do it on cue. For thirty years or more we've been learning
> about and discussing the details of the greenhouse effect and human
> pollution's contribution to it, and for all that time these
> ignoramuses were either oblivious or couldn't care less. But now that
> the corporate disinformation machine has it on the agenda, they can't
> stop spouting about it-- just like they do with every other passing
> hater fad. I can't wait for them to get the hell over it, but I
> reckon it will only be by moving on to something equally noxious and
> socially harmful.
I can't wait for us humans to extinguish ourselves. I don't care if it comes
about through global warming or a biological weapon of mass destruction or a
nuclear holocaust. The sooner we humans get off this planet, the better. I
hope and trust that everyone knows that I hate just as much as they do.
I want the cockroaches and the rats to dominate this fucking planet. It has
never been friendly to us humans. It was always either too hot or too cold,
too dry or too wet. I say fuck the planet earth! It would have been better
if we had never been born.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
Andre Jute
> AMuzi wrote:
> > Bill Sornson wrote:
> >> Global Warming Alarmism isn't really growing any more, nor is it new:
>
> >> "The Arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in
> >> some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a
> >> report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consulate, at
> >> Bergen, Norway . Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers,
> >> he declared, all point to a radical change in climate conditions and
> >> hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration
> >> expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met with as far
> >> north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters
> >> showed the gulf stream still very warm. Great masses of ice have
> >> been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued,
> >> while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared.
> >> Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic,
> >> while vast shoals of herring and smelts, which have never before
> >> ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing
> >> grounds." I'm sorry, I neglected to mention that this report was from
> >> November
> >> 2, 1922 as reported by the AP and published in The Washington Post.
>
> >> Read all about it:
> >> (click to enlarge print).
>
> > Things are tough all over:
> >http://www.justnews.com/news/22152242/detail.html
>
> > Gene, call home. The iguanas are frozen.
>
> LOL Yeah, I heard about that. Oh, the iguanity...
>
>
> Bill "and so it goes" S.
Just about now we should be ready for the arrival of Asher and Weiner,
hot from the coalface of "science", to tell us how we're in for global
ice age for the next 300 years, all caused by manmade CO2 through
climate forcing. Don't hurt their feelings, dear Bill, by asking them
what happened to manmade CO2 causing global warming.
Andre Jute
The IPCC -- longest hand job in the history of mass hysteria -- has
now lasted almost twice as long as the Third Reich. Will it be gone as
suddenly?
Andre Jute
Islam has more evidence than Michael Mann and the IPCC, who promoted a
handful of known-unsuitable trees on Colorado hillside (clearly the
centre of world temperature) into a prophecy of global temperature for
300 years. The forecast failed in the first 10 years.
Islam has more evidence than Keith Briffa and the IPCC, who promoted a
*single* known-unsuitable trees in the wastes of Siberia (a real
centre of world temperature) into a prophecy of global temperature
for 300 years. The forecast failed in the first 10 years.
Hands up those who are surprised that the forecast failed in the first
10 years.
Andre Jute
Where shall we hold the Global Warming Trials? Nuremberg sounds
good.
Tom Sherman °_°
--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
Edward Dolan
"Tom Sherman �_�" <twsherm...@THISsouthslope.net> wrote in message
news:higekl$k1s$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
I am cranky until the end of time. Get used to it, you god damn fucking
liberal-socialist-communist asshole!
NM
> "Tom Sherman °_°" <twshermanREM...@THISsouthslope.net> wrote in messagenews:higekl$k1s$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>
>
> > Edward Dolan wrote:
> >> "Chalo" <chalo.col...@gmail.com> wrote in message
He's got to be a cyclist.
Chalo
>
> MEANWHILE,http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1242011/DAVID-ROSE-The....
>
> Bill "and so it goes" S.
I guess even a blinkered jackass can't get _all_ his news and
information from Faux News, hate radio, and crackpot blogs.
Eventually you have to add lowbrow tabloid papers too!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail
Congratulations... I guess.
Chalo
datakoll
> jony wrote:
> > Learn about the the fastest growing religion in the World
>
ahhhhh THE GODHEAD REVEALED !
Edward Dolan
And just where would you suggest we go to get the TRUTH?
landotter
Sorni's a royalist, don't you know?
Jobst Brandt
being a:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion
It doesn't stop at a supreme being but fills the minds of most humans,
guiding their lives and supporting a better than thou persona.
Jobst Brandt
datakoll
philosophical sucked in by the oil clergy.
Thruth is OUAT, a civilization drank water from lead pipes then went
nuts. That civilization was replaced with a theocracy continuing today
where the current civilization is going nuts watching TV.
The antiquo religion of the theocracy, now relatively powerless,
continues as a very powerful energy flow know as the Judeo-Christian
tradition.
Islam, a theocracy, controls a civilization older than the lead pipe
folk, a continuing civilization weel know for advanced thought,
technological superiority, quality living conditions.
So, advacing the idea - fastest growing religion - is not to the
point. Considering accomplishments during the last 1000 years is...
I HAVE SPOKEN
Edward Dolan
"landotter" <land...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:af4b59ba-e9d8-4432...@h9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
And Landotter and all his ilk know nothing but what they get from the
liberal mass media. Christ, you would think they might have a few original
thoughts from time to time.
regards,
Bill Sornson
"Attack the Messenger" -- what a shocking development!
ROTFL
Neil Brooks
He's physically incapable.
No impulse control.
Sad, really.
Edward Dolan
"datakoll" <data...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:213efb51-6bb7-44f5...@j5g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
Datakoll, you are one fucking idiot for sure. No one has any idea what you
are blathering about. I suggest you go fuck yourself. When you are done,
come back and post a sensible message so I can properly ream you out.
Regards
Tom Sherman °_°
landotter
> "datakoll" <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:213efb51-6bb7-44f5...@j5g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > wow iszit cold ! like dude it is soooooo cold RBT has waxed
> > philosophical sucked in by the oil clergy.
>
> > Thruth is OUAT, a civilization drank water from lead pipes then went
> > nuts. That civilization was replaced with a theocracy continuing today
> > where the current civilization is going nuts watching TV.
>
> > The antiquo religion of the theocracy, now relatively powerless,
> > continues as a very powerful energy flow know as the Judeo-Christian
> > tradition.
>
> > Islam, a theocracy, controls a civilization older than the lead pipe
> > folk, a continuing civilization weel know for advanced thought,
> > technological superiority, quality living conditions.
>
> > So, advacing the idea - fastest growing religion - is not to the
> > point. Considering accomplishments during the last 1000 years is...
>
> > I HAVE SPOKEN
>
> Datakoll, you are one fucking idiot for sure. No one has any idea what you
> are blathering about. I suggest you go fuck yourself. When you are done,
> come back and post a sensible message so I can properly ream you out.
Hey, you fucka wit the oracle, you fucka wit me!
Tom Sherman °_°
Király
> I can't wait for us humans to extinguish ourselves. I don't care if it comes
> about through global warming or a biological weapon of mass destruction or a
> nuclear holocaust. The sooner we humans get off this planet, the better. I
> hope and trust that everyone knows that I hate just as much as they do.
George Carlin lives!
--
K.
Lang may your lum reek.
Edward Dolan
""Kir�ly"" <m...@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote in message
news:zzU2n.59467$Db2.15581@edtnps83...
Carlin not only got funnier as he aged, but he also got wiser. Anyone who is
not disgusted by mankind is not a thinking man at all. I want the world to
end with a bang, not a whimper.
Ben C
> On Jan 11, 3:12�pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 11, 2:18�am, "Bill Sornson" <so...@noyb.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Read all about it:http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/changing-artic_mon...
>>
>> Still can't provide a single reputable source for the bullshit you
>> believe in? LMAO
>>
>> A right wing weatherman without a college degree? �hahahahaha!
>>
>> Neither you nor Jute has a single reputable source for your radical
>> dogmatism. But you're still awfully entrenched.
>>
>> Perhaps you *should* try Islam! Not much difference. Passion without
>> evidence.
>
> Islam has more evidence than Michael Mann and the IPCC, who promoted a
> handful of known-unsuitable trees on Colorado hillside (clearly the
> centre of world temperature) into a prophecy of global temperature for
> 300 years. The forecast failed in the first 10 years.
>
> Islam has more evidence than Keith Briffa and the IPCC, who promoted a
> *single* known-unsuitable trees in the wastes of Siberia (a real
> centre of world temperature) into a prophecy of global temperature
> for 300 years. The forecast failed in the first 10 years.
The cause of the famously hidden decline since 1960 may be actually be
precisely because the specially selected trees were such bad temperature
proxies.
If those particular trees missed out on a growth spurt during the MWP,
they may have missed out on the benefits of 20th century warmth for the
same reason.
But even if it was for a different reason, trees selected for not
showing the MWP are likely to be particularly bad temperature proxies.
andre...@aol.com
> jony wrote:
> > Learn about the the fastest growing religion in the World
>
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6e/Touched_by_His_Noodly_A...
>
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
Oh cool! The God of spaghetti and meatballs. Must be a Chef Boyardee
add.
andre...@aol.com
> "datakoll" <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
The three stooges: Jim Beam, hermaphrodite afrikaner and ed dorklan
andre...@aol.com
> On Jan 11, 2:18 am, "Bill Sornson" <so...@noyb.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Read all about it:http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/changing-artic_mon...
>
> Still can't provide a single reputable source for the bullshit you
> believe in? LMAO
>
> A right wing weatherman without a college degree? hahahahaha!
>
> Neither you nor Jute has a single reputable source for your radical
> dogmatism. But you're still awfully entrenched.
>
> Perhaps you *should* try Islam! Not much difference. Passion without
> evidence.
Otter: Green hermaphrodite bikeman had been asleep for a few days.
Why did you have to wake him.
andre...@aol.com
> On Jan 11, 1:45 pm, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Bill Sornson wrote:
> > > Global Warming Alarmism isn't really growing any more, nor is it new:
>
> > > places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the
> > > Commerce Department yesterday from Consulate, at Bergen, Norway . Reports
> > > from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers, he declared, all point to a
> > > radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in
> > > the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has
> > > been met with as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of
> > > 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm. Great masses of ice
> > > have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued,
> > > while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared. Very few
> > > seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals
> > > of herring and smelts, which have never before ventured so far north, are
> > > being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds."
>
> > > I'm sorry, I neglected to mention that this report was from November 2, 1922
> > > as reported by the AP and published in The Washington Post.
>
> > >http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/changing-artic_mon...
>
> > Things are tough all over:http://www.justnews.com/news/22152242/detail.html
>
> > Gene, call home. The iguanas are frozen.
>
>
> Meanwhile, there's a heatwave down under:
>
> http://www.abc.net.au/rural/news/content/201001/s2789453.htm
As I said before, some cannot distinguish between weather and climate.
No matter what you say, they won't know the difference. Just drop it.
andre...@aol.com
> "Tom Sherman °_°" <twshermanREM...@THISsouthslope.net> wrote in messagenews:higekl$k1s$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>
>
> > Edward Dolan wrote:
> >> "Chalo" <chalo.col...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Dorklan out of meds again?
AMuzi
You do not understand our oracle's gift?
Mike A Schwab
Andre Jute
> Edward Dolan wrote:
> > "datakoll" <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
In this instance dear old Gene was so passionate about swaying us to
his view that for once he gave up his pidgin. But generally I agree
with Ed: I can't be bothered to decipher dialect unless accompanied by
genius, and even then not for long. As Leo Q Rosten once said, "To
write in dialect talent is never enough. Even genius may not be
enough." And he knew a lot more about it than dear old Gene. Dear old
Gene's wit would be better served by plain English; it is a trite
truth, but everyone's wit is better served by plain English.
Andre Jute
Visit Andre's books at
http://www.audio-talk.co.uk/fiultra/THE%20WRITER'S%20HOUSE.html
andre...@aol.com
To each his/her own. Those who were made to crawl cannot be expected
to fly.
Andre Jute
> On 2010-01-12, Andre Jute <fiult...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 11, 3:12 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Jan 11, 2:18 am, "Bill Sornson" <so...@noyb.com> wrote:
>
> >> > Read all about it:http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/changing-artic_mon...
>
> >> Still can't provide a single reputable source for the bullshit you
> >> believe in? LMAO
>
> >> A right wing weatherman without a college degree? hahahahaha!
>
> >> Neither you nor Jute has a single reputable source for your radical
> >> dogmatism. But you're still awfully entrenched.
>
> >> Perhaps you *should* try Islam! Not much difference. Passion without
> >> evidence.
>
> > Islam has more evidence than Michael Mann and the IPCC, who promoted a
> > handful of known-unsuitable trees on Colorado hillside (clearly the
> > centre of world temperature) into a prophecy of global temperature for
> > 300 years. The forecast failed in the first 10 years.
>
> > Islam has more evidence than Keith Briffa and the IPCC, who promoted a
> > *single* known-unsuitable trees in the wastes of Siberia (a real
> > centre of world temperature) into a prophecy of global temperature
> > for 300 years. The forecast failed in the first 10 years.
>
> The cause of the famously hidden decline since 1960 may be actually be
> precisely because the specially selected trees were such bad temperature
> proxies.
Actually, the amazing thing is that what tripped up Michael Mann
wasn't the unsuitability of those trees. If you read between the lines
of the Wegman and North reports, and even Steve McIntyre's earliest
writings (and his later reports of his attitude at that time when he
was merely trying to do professional due diligence for his own
amuement in his retirement), you discover that all these people merely
thought Mann was a little incompetent for choosing those trees. What
tripped up Mann was greed for the *perfect* politically acceptable
result, the perfectly flat hockey stick. As McIntyre & McKitrick
pointed out, Mann then weighted his few unsuitable trees by a factor
of 60 greater than the other series to flatten the curve perfectly
and, still not satisfied, he then built an algorithm that would draw a
hockey stick from random noise. As I say, at the time no one could
quite bring themselves to say that a scientist committed such a
profoundly fraudulent acts deliberately, and these matters were
presented as "mere" incompetence.
> If those particular trees missed out on a growth spurt during the MWP,
> they may have missed out on the benefits of 20th century warmth for the
> same reason.
You should tell your children to study dendrochronology. This is a
science that will have to be wiped back to the 1940s and then started
again on a clean slate, tabula rasa. It could be very exciting work
for a whole lifetime reconstructing those series that Hadley and the
Hansen mob fucked up so comprehensively that everything they didn't
dump already will have to be dumped.
Looks to me like Michael Mann and the IPCC could not distinguish local
Colorado weather from world climate. Or deliberately, fraudulently
confused the two.
> But even if it was for a different reason, trees selected for not
> showing the MWP are likely to be particularly bad temperature proxies.
That's why Briffa, trying to replicate the hockey stick, worked with
only twelve stringently selected unsuitable (to the truth) trees in
Siberia -- and still had maul the data dishonestly and refuse to
publish his algorithm before he could make his hockey stick match
Mann's. In the end a single one of those trees was weighted so much
that it dominated the data totally, and world policy was made on data
cooked from a single tree in Siberia by a long-since disgraced
"scientist".
Looks to me like Keith Briffa and the IPCC could not distinguish local
Siberian weather from world climate. Or deliberately, fraudulently
confused the two.
Andre Jute
Where shall we hold the Global Warming Trials? Nuremberg sounds
good.
Andre Jute
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JimmyMac
Yep, Tom ... he's cranky alright and to think he accuses others of
name calling. Apparently Ed doesn't ever recognize that the
destructive potential of biological and nuclear weapons qualify them
as weapons of mass destruction. I wonder why he omitted chemical
weapons?
Edward Dolan
"JimmyMac" <jimmy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Yep, Tom ... he's cranky alright and to think he accuses others of
name calling. Apparently Ed doesn't ever recognize that the
destructive potential of biological and nuclear weapons qualify them
as weapons of mass destruction. I wonder why he omitted chemical
weapons?
The experts fear biological weapons of mass destruction even more than they
do the others. It may turn out to the weapon of terrorists par excellence
since they do not care who they kill, not even excluding themselves.