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Michael Giess

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Oct 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/12/98
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I just bought a track bike on the weekend and I need to get a new bottom
bracket for it (the old one that was installed was a 73mm MTB bottom
bracket with 116mm axle length - the wrong size in every respect!)

The shell width is 68mm but I am not sure of the axle length required.
Is there any way I can measure this or is it a case of trial and error?

Thanks for any help.

Michael

Gary Pritchard

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Oct 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/12/98
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BB spindle length is matched to the crank as well as the shell width. Check
with the manufacturer of the crank to get the correct size.

Michael Giess wrote in message <362132...@kittyhawk.aero.rmit.edu.au>...

Steve Freides

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Oct 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/12/98
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The cranks you're going to use make a big difference - different cranks
have different profiles. Although I'm far from expert in this area, I
do know that, e.g., Campy BB spindles are typically shorter than
Shimano, at least for road use.

-S-

Sheldon Brown

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Oct 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/12/98
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In article <362132...@kittyhawk.aero.rmit.edu.au>,

Michael Giess <s95...@kittyhawk.aero.rmit.edu.au> wrote:
> I just bought a track bike on the weekend and I need to get a new bottom
> bracket for it (the old one that was installed was a 73mm MTB bottom
> bracket with 116mm axle length - the wrong size in every respect!)

Yow! I'll say!

> The shell width is 68mm but I am not sure of the axle length required.
> Is there any way I can measure this or is it a case of trial and error?

Most track cranks use a 109 mm bb.

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Dan Goldenberg

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Michael Giess wrote in message <362132...@kittyhawk.aero.rmit.edu.au>...
>I just bought a track bike on the weekend and I need to get a new bottom
>bracket for it (the old one that was installed was a 73mm MTB bottom
>bracket with 116mm axle length - the wrong size in every respect!)
>
>The shell width is 68mm but I am not sure of the axle length required.
>Is there any way I can measure this or is it a case of trial and error?
>
>Thanks for any help.
>
>Michael

If you know how to measure chainline, do the following:

1. Measure the chainline up front with the crank installed.
2. Measure the chainline at the back cog.
3. Figure out what the difference is, if any.
4. Pick an axle length that will correct the chainline, remembering that you
need to double the axle length of the needed correction, for example, if you
need to move the front chainring in 2 mm, you will need an axle 4 mm shorter
than your existing one.

Also, measure the clearance that the chainring has with the right chainstay
to make sure that if you need a shorter axle you will not have clearance
problems.

This method would work pretty good if you had the correct 68mm bottom
bracket installed but I don't know what effect having a 73mm BB installed
will do in positioning the axle, but it should come close.

If you don't know how to measure the chainline you can do the following (you
will need some calipers):

1. For the front:
a. measure the seat tube diameter.
b. divide this measurement by 2. Call this "X"
c. measure from the edge of the seat tube to the center of the Chainring,
Call this "Y"
d. the chainline at the front is "X" + "Y"

2. For the rear:
a. Measure the rear dropout spacing.
b. Divide this measurement by 2. Call this "X"
c. Measure the distance (with hub installed) from the inside edge of the
right dropout to the track cog, call this "Y".
d. the chainline at the rear is "X" - "Y".


John Dacey

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Oct 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/12/98
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On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:09:24 -0700, Steve Freides <sj...@idt.net>
wrote:

>The cranks you're going to use make a big difference - different cranks
>have different profiles. Although I'm far from expert in this area, I
>do know that, e.g., Campy BB spindles are typically shorter than
>Shimano, at least for road use.
>

As part of our online catalog of track hardware, there's a page of
technical reference specifications, including spindle length
requirements for a variety of track cranks. The URL direct to that
page is
http://www.businesscycles.com/spokewrench/tr-refspec.htm


- - -
http://www.businesscycles.com/spokewrench
Business Cycles
9818 S.W. 77th Avenue
Miami, Florida 33156
305-273-4440

Rick Denney

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Oct 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/12/98
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Most track cranks use 109 mm spindles, except for Campy Record track
cranks, which use 111 mm spindles.

Business Cycles in Miami has a good web page about track stuff, and
the page showing spindle specs is

http://www.gate.net/spokewrench/tr-refspec.htm#cranks


On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 08:34:06 +1000, Michael Giess
<s95...@kittyhawk.aero.rmit.edu.au> wrote:

>I just bought a track bike on the weekend and I need to get a new bottom
>bracket for it (the old one that was installed was a 73mm MTB bottom
>bracket with 116mm axle length - the wrong size in every respect!)
>
>The shell width is 68mm but I am not sure of the axle length required.
>Is there any way I can measure this or is it a case of trial and error?
>
>Thanks for any help.
>
>Michael


Rick Denney
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DD

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Oct 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/13/98
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It depends what crankset you're gonna put on there. For example, if you're
going to put on a basic japanese track crank like a Sugino, you'd need a
109mm. But in any case you just need to determine what crank. Check out
www.businesscycles.com; if anyone would know they would.

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