Shimano SPD cleat question
Steve
and "silver" cleats for the Shimano 747 and other SPD pedals? Is
there a difference in the amount of "float", or is it solely (sorry
couldn't resist) how they release?
Thanks,
Please email,
Darling
>Would someone please clarify for me the difference between the "black"
>and "silver" cleats for the Shimano 747 and other SPD pedals? Is
>there a difference in the amount of "float", or is it solely (sorry
>couldn't resist) how they release?
>
I don't ride with Shimano pedals, but from what I've read, it's only how
they release--the black cleats only release outward.
Chris Phillipo
> Would someone please clarify for me the difference between the "black"
> and "silver" cleats for the Shimano 747 and other SPD pedals? Is
> there a difference in the amount of "float", or is it solely (sorry
> couldn't resist) how they release?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Please email,
>
> stev...@aol.com
The black are multi-release while the silver are single release.
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release version releases only when the heel is forced out or in beyond the 8
degrees of float. The multi release will allow the shoe to come out before
the 8 degrees, when the foot is twisted.
Two Wheels
Chris Phillipo
> The SM-55 are silver and multi-release. The float is the same. The single
> release version releases only when the heel is forced out or in beyond the 8
> degrees of float. The multi release will allow the shoe to come out before
> the 8 degrees, when the foot is twisted.
>
> Two Wheels
Really? It's the opposite for the retail cleats. (black being the multi
release)
Peter Cole
to come out unintentionally. To others (myself included) they are the 'black
cleats of death' because I often couldn't get them to release when I wanted.
As far as I can tell, the multi-releases disengage when you roll your foot
or when you swing your heel out. The singles let go only with a heel swing.
Perhaps I would have acclimated to the singles eventually, but it would have
been painful. I've never had a problem with the multi's letting go at the
wrong time (or not letting go at the right time).
Steve wrote in message <370942f8.43579142@news>...
Alex Wetmore
resorting to getting the multirelease. The main reason is economic...
single release cleats come with the pedals, and if you have multiple bikes
that is a couple of years worth of cleats that you get for "free".
I've taught friends who were borrowing my bikes how to use clipless pedals,
and I use single release cleats on all of my shoes, and no one has
complained of falling yet. I fell once when first using them, but haven't
had problems since then.
What I found helpful was to spend a little while riding around clipping and
unclipping constantly (basically practicing). I also made a concious effort
to unclip before stopping.
alex
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Sorni
"click" that the single-release do. So I gave 'em to my friend who likes
that mushy click-in, and stuck with the single...
Anyone else notice this?
Steve
cleats on the 747's to give more "float" than the MTB cleats provide.
I went to my LBS to order some ($24.95 for cleats!!!!!!), where they
told me that this was NOT the case. Although I admire their not
trying to sell me something that they felt wouldn't work, they're not
always as knowledgeable as they think they are.
Has anyone else tried this?
Steve
Two Wheels
Chris, check the numbers on the cleat. I just opened up a factory sealed
"retail-wholesale" box of PD-M747s, and there is a set of black SM-SH51 cleats.
The SM-SH55s are silver. You can check the Shimano web site to verify that the
SM-SH55s are the multi-release version.
Two Wheels
Chris Phillipo
> Retail cleats?
> Chris, check the numbers on the cleat. I just opened up a factory sealed
> "retail-wholesale" box of PD-M747s, and there is a set of black SM-SH51 cleats.
> The SM-SH55s are silver. You can check the Shimano web site to verify that the
> SM-SH55s are the multi-release version.
> Two Wheels
By retail cleats I mean the standard Shimano cleats sold in a retail package for
$24.95 CAD. The black ones are multi and I thought the silver were single. It
turns out they are both black. I'm sure whatever comes with the pedals are a
different cleat altogether.
G.T.
Chris Phillipo wrote in message <370D8AC2...@ns.sympatico.ca>...
>Two Wheels wrote:
>
>> Retail cleats?
>> Chris, check the numbers on the cleat. I just opened up a factory sealed
>> "retail-wholesale" box of PD-M747s, and there is a set of black SM-SH51
cleats.
>> The SM-SH55s are silver. You can check the Shimano web site to verify
that the
>> SM-SH55s are the multi-release version.
>> Two Wheels
>
>By retail cleats I mean the standard Shimano cleats sold in a retail
package for
>$24.95 CAD. The black ones are multi and I thought the silver were
single. It
>turns out they are both black. I'm sure whatever comes with the pedals are
a
>different cleat altogether.
Every pair of SH55 Multi-release cleats I've seen are silver but I suppose
they could have changed them to black. SH51 are single-release and they are
definitely black. The SH51 cleats that come with the pedals have always
looked exactly like the SH51's I've seen in the stores, why would they be
different?
Greg
Chris Phillipo
> package for
> >$24.95 CAD. The black ones are multi and I thought the silver were
> single. It
> >turns out they are both black. I'm sure whatever comes with the pedals are
> a
> >different cleat altogether.
>
> Every pair of SH55 Multi-release cleats I've seen are silver but I suppose
> they could have changed them to black. SH51 are single-release and they are
> definitely black. The SH51 cleats that come with the pedals have always
> looked exactly like the SH51's I've seen in the stores, why would they be
> different?
>
> Greg
Good question. Leave it to Shimano. These cleats are a gun blued kind of black
rather than a painted black also. Perhaps they are actually made in Canada,
wouldn't that be a hoot, Japanese parts stamped made in Canada :).
Zbycho A.
>Would someone please clarify for me the difference between the "black"
>and "silver" cleats for the Shimano 747 and other SPD pedals? Is
>there a difference in the amount of "float", or is it solely (sorry
>couldn't resist) how they release?
So much was said in this thread, so let me add my 0,05... I've got two
pairs of shoes and use regularly both types of cleats.
SH-51 are usually provided with every pair of Shimano pedals (at least
with 535 and 747, dunno how's with 323). They are black when new, soon
turn to silver-grey. They are sigle-release type. They provide some
free play and release is only by moving heel outward. They give a
clear "click" on seting in.
SH-55 are silver, and stay silver. They are multi-release: no matter
what you do with your foot, except straight pulling, you release. You
can even release a foot wihout moving it. It's hard to describe it, it
is quite subtle -- it's rather twist of the ball of the foot, without
moving the heel... They do not click-in so clearly. They both set in
and disengage slightly easier than SH-51. There is almost no free play
-- the foot sets "stiff", you can't move it without releasing.
Since one has to pay extra for SH-55 i'd recommend multi-release
cleats only for those who after some time are still not comfortable
with single-release. They are great in the city, when you stop
frequently and sometimes unexpectedly... However, if you go for
"override" or like to change your position on a bike during a long
ride, or stick the knee into the sharp curve, you can expect unwanted
release.
I've got SH-51 with pedals. When i bought a second pair of shoes, just
out of curiosity i purhased SH-55. I thought that the higher number
might mean some more technological advance... Not really...
Now, after learning how they work i would rather go for another set of
55's. Besides, that's also a recommendation of Shimano said in their
catalogue.
Yours Virtually. Zbycho BikeRider