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TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
May 30, 2012, 2:20:17 PM5/30/12
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And that's because the ultimate goal in America --if you ever make
it-- is to live in a Gated Community, where you don't see people --at
least not the friendly type. It's people who mostly live inward and
come out in the SUVs with tinted windows. Maybe they are too busy to
enjoy anything. Then outside you don't find many people either because
they are afraid to come out and find the wrong type of people.
You don't see people walking or riding bicycles and that's because the
urban landscape is scary and depressing. Many American cities were
rated "sad" recently for their poverty and lack of green to which I
add the fact that you don't see people. The sidewalks lie in disrepair
forever without proper maintenance. Nobody reports them, and if you do
they come and put a safety cone over it. Often you find cars blocking
the path or some major repair is going without proper alternatives.
But that's the American way, though some say that's the model
pioneered by Los Angeles. New York is not like that. But even in the
southern sprawls there's hope: the MIGHTY BIKE. It may just be the
vehicle of liberation, I mean liberation from the cage.
But that's only my humble opinion.
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it-- is to live in a Gated Community, where you don't see people --at
least not the friendly type. It's people who mostly live inward and
come out in the SUVs with tinted windows. Maybe they are too busy to
enjoy anything. Then outside you don't find many people either because
they are afraid to come out and find the wrong type of people.
You don't see people walking or riding bicycles and that's because the
urban landscape is scary and depressing. Many American cities were
rated "sad" recently for their poverty and lack of green to which I
add the fact that you don't see people. The sidewalks lie in disrepair
forever without proper maintenance. Nobody reports them, and if you do
they come and put a safety cone over it. Often you find cars blocking
the path or some major repair is going without proper alternatives.
But that's the American way, though some say that's the model
pioneered by Los Angeles. New York is not like that. But even in the
southern sprawls there's hope: the MIGHTY BIKE. It may just be the
vehicle of liberation, I mean liberation from the cage.
But that's only my humble opinion.
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http://webspawner.com/users/BIKEFORPEACE
race...@yahoo.com
May 31, 2012, 4:08:29 PM5/31/12
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Living in a gated community absolutely sucks. I'm sorry, but the thinking behind them is suspect. Either you have a guard, and must present your papers to the Gestapo, and visitors have to endure the requisite bullshit...or you have an automated gate that any thief simply waits for a car to pass, giving entry. Brilliant.
Getting the people outside, actually in contact with each other, and on bicycles is wonderful. The car is fine for lugging groceries about, I guess. Sitting inside a climate-controlled "box" isolates you from too much.
Getting the people outside, actually in contact with each other, and on bicycles is wonderful. The car is fine for lugging groceries about, I guess. Sitting inside a climate-controlled "box" isolates you from too much.
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
May 31, 2012, 10:45:22 PM5/31/12
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On May 31, 7:07 pm, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
> In article
> <d8ec55d8-9928-44eb-bde9-028b738ba...@m24g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
> "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
> Things may be changing. Slowly.
>
> My neighborhood in Hollywood has been slowly turning into an
> old-fashioned neighborhood with apartments over retail space and lots of
> street level stores and restaurants. The streets off the main drag are
> completely residential, with lots of trees and lots of people walking
> dogs (funny thing is, many of us know the names of the various dogs, but
> not the names of their people; we all get a laugh out of that). Enough
> trees that the traffic sounds from a mere block away are almost
> completely muted.
>
> As for bikes, my building has hang-ups in the garage for about 6 bikes,
> and other neighbors keep their bikes in their apartments. We're close to
> a hiking canyon and many people either run or bike there to hike.
>
> And downtown LA has been converting to a more people-friendly place over
> the last decade or so. It started with the same kind of loft conversions
> that happened in other cities and then led to more conventional living
> spaces, with lots of apartments and condos, along with the retail space
> to service them. Of course, there have been issues, the usual issues of
> gentrification, with the new living spaces beginning to encroach on skid
> row, where thousands of homeless live.
>
> --
> JD
>
> "the lybian lier"
Change has been to slow to come. It's like two steps forward, one
backward. Maybe it'll take a couple of centuries to rescue the
community from neglect, and then our species may not be around
anymore.
My community is receiving "window dressing" but you can tell it's all
about handing out juicy contracts. Corruption takes the biggest bite
of it all. Bike lanes appear but not connected as if they don't care
about safety. The bad guys still rule the street. Gated Communities
dominate the landscape.
> In article
> <d8ec55d8-9928-44eb-bde9-028b738ba...@m24g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
> "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
>
> My neighborhood in Hollywood has been slowly turning into an
> old-fashioned neighborhood with apartments over retail space and lots of
> street level stores and restaurants. The streets off the main drag are
> completely residential, with lots of trees and lots of people walking
> dogs (funny thing is, many of us know the names of the various dogs, but
> not the names of their people; we all get a laugh out of that). Enough
> trees that the traffic sounds from a mere block away are almost
> completely muted.
>
> As for bikes, my building has hang-ups in the garage for about 6 bikes,
> and other neighbors keep their bikes in their apartments. We're close to
> a hiking canyon and many people either run or bike there to hike.
>
> And downtown LA has been converting to a more people-friendly place over
> the last decade or so. It started with the same kind of loft conversions
> that happened in other cities and then led to more conventional living
> spaces, with lots of apartments and condos, along with the retail space
> to service them. Of course, there have been issues, the usual issues of
> gentrification, with the new living spaces beginning to encroach on skid
> row, where thousands of homeless live.
>
> --
> JD
>
> "the lybian lier"
Change has been to slow to come. It's like two steps forward, one
backward. Maybe it'll take a couple of centuries to rescue the
community from neglect, and then our species may not be around
anymore.
My community is receiving "window dressing" but you can tell it's all
about handing out juicy contracts. Corruption takes the biggest bite
of it all. Bike lanes appear but not connected as if they don't care
about safety. The bad guys still rule the street. Gated Communities
dominate the landscape.
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
May 31, 2012, 10:49:12 PM5/31/12
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On May 31, 4:08 pm, "racer...@yahoo.com" <racer...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Living in a gated community absolutely sucks. I'm sorry, but the thinking behind them is suspect. Either you have a guard, and must present your papers to the Gestapo, and visitors have to endure the requisite bullshit...or you have an automated gate that any thief simply waits for a car to pass, giving entry. Brilliant.
>
> Getting the people outside, actually in contact with each other, and on bicycles is wonderful. The car is fine for lugging groceries about, I guess. Sitting inside a climate-controlled "box" isolates you from too much.
Absolutely right. You can lug a lot of groceries on a bike with
> Living in a gated community absolutely sucks. I'm sorry, but the thinking behind them is suspect. Either you have a guard, and must present your papers to the Gestapo, and visitors have to endure the requisite bullshit...or you have an automated gate that any thief simply waits for a car to pass, giving entry. Brilliant.
>
> Getting the people outside, actually in contact with each other, and on bicycles is wonderful. The car is fine for lugging groceries about, I guess. Sitting inside a climate-controlled "box" isolates you from too much.
panniers though. And then you can add a trailer.
The car still has its place outside the community, but I look forward
to having long rides in an urban landscape looking to meet people and
hunt for bargains. Not unlike our ancestors the hunter gatherers.
Wes Groleau
May 31, 2012, 11:31:05 PM5/31/12
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On 05-31-2012 16:08, race...@yahoo.com wrote:
> The car is fine for lugging groceries about, I guess. Sitting
I disagree. The basket on my tricycle holds more than I need
> The car is fine for lugging groceries about, I guess. Sitting
for a week.
--
Wes Groleau
ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI
Tom $herman (-_-)
Jun 2, 2012, 12:34:19 AM6/2/12
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On 5/31/2012 3:08 PM, race...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Living in a gated community absolutely sucks. I'm sorry, but the thinking behind them is suspect. Either you have a guard, and must present your papers to the Gestapo, and visitors have to endure the requisite bullshit...or you have an automated gate that any thief simply waits for a car to pass, giving entry. Brilliant.
> [...]
> Living in a gated community absolutely sucks. I'm sorry, but the thinking behind them is suspect. Either you have a guard, and must present your papers to the Gestapo, and visitors have to endure the requisite bullshit...or you have an automated gate that any thief simply waits for a car to pass, giving entry. Brilliant.
When the revolution comes, the people in gated communities will find
their power and water cut off, so their guards and other servants will
abandon them in short order.
--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731°N, 83.985007°W
Post Free or Die!
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Jun 2, 2012, 2:36:26 PM6/2/12
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On Jun 2, 12:34 am, "Tom $herman (-_-)" <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net"> wrote:
"We can hire half the people to kill the other half."
$southslope.net"> wrote:
> On 5/31/2012 3:08 PM, racer...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > Living in a gated community absolutely sucks. I'm sorry, but the thinking behind them is suspect. Either you have a guard, and must present your papers to the Gestapo, and visitors have to endure the requisite bullshit...or you have an automated gate that any thief simply waits for a car to pass, giving entry. Brilliant.
> > [...]
>
> When the revolution comes, the people in gated communities will find
> their power and water cut off, so their guards and other servants will
> abandon them in short order.
Yeah, but I hope this arrogant statement isn't true:
>
> > Living in a gated community absolutely sucks. I'm sorry, but the thinking behind them is suspect. Either you have a guard, and must present your papers to the Gestapo, and visitors have to endure the requisite bullshit...or you have an automated gate that any thief simply waits for a car to pass, giving entry. Brilliant.
> > [...]
>
> When the revolution comes, the people in gated communities will find
> their power and water cut off, so their guards and other servants will
> abandon them in short order.
"We can hire half the people to kill the other half."
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Jun 2, 2012, 2:37:02 PM6/2/12
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> On 5/31/2012 3:08 PM, racer...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > Living in a gated community absolutely sucks. I'm sorry, but the thinking behind them is suspect. Either you have a guard, and must present your papers to the Gestapo, and visitors have to endure the requisite bullshit...or you have an automated gate that any thief simply waits for a car to pass, giving entry. Brilliant.
> > [...]
>
> When the revolution comes, the people in gated communities will find
> their power and water cut off, so their guards and other servants will
> abandon them in short order.
>
> > Living in a gated community absolutely sucks. I'm sorry, but the thinking behind them is suspect. Either you have a guard, and must present your papers to the Gestapo, and visitors have to endure the requisite bullshit...or you have an automated gate that any thief simply waits for a car to pass, giving entry. Brilliant.
> > [...]
>
> When the revolution comes, the people in gated communities will find
> their power and water cut off, so their guards and other servants will
> abandon them in short order.
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Jun 2, 2012, 3:33:54 PM6/2/12
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I'll like to make this analysis given by TRANSPORTATION CHOICES. To
your surprise we cyclists may not be the friendliest people out there.
We are second best, but that's only my humble opinion. Here it goes:
1- PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION ADVOCATES are the friendliest people out
there. They love people, even some of the trashy people who populate
our decadent transportation system. Picture people who love Greyhound
buses.
2- CYCLISTS --which include all two wheeled vehicles, "out of the
cage": We like people but just to a point. We pick and choose who to
talk to. We hate people who stink. Notice we don't need much
infrastructure. We are the freest people by far.
3- DRIVERS: They hate people. Some are willing to consider other
transportation choices and thus could be part of the solution. They
are not as much "drivers" as "driven" by the system, if you know what
I mean.
4- SUV DRIVERS: They hate people with a passion. They are a threat
even to common drivers. Tinted windows mean "don't mess with me." On
top of that, they oppose every effort toward modern transportation
systems. Funny thing is they deny Climate Change to avoid
responsibility and supported the war in Iraq based on trumped up
charges. Why would they even care the Iraqis lacked "democracy"?
Predictably they came up with a Gated Community around Baghdad.
5- PEDESTRIANS: They are not very clever by refusing to take advantage
of the wheel. A cyclist is much cooler and has a "beast of burden" at
his disposal. Often they are public transportation users. Elderly are
OK though --except when they vote and ignore the issues.
I think I said enough. The Wise Man leaves something to the
imagination.
your surprise we cyclists may not be the friendliest people out there.
We are second best, but that's only my humble opinion. Here it goes:
1- PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION ADVOCATES are the friendliest people out
there. They love people, even some of the trashy people who populate
our decadent transportation system. Picture people who love Greyhound
buses.
2- CYCLISTS --which include all two wheeled vehicles, "out of the
cage": We like people but just to a point. We pick and choose who to
talk to. We hate people who stink. Notice we don't need much
infrastructure. We are the freest people by far.
3- DRIVERS: They hate people. Some are willing to consider other
transportation choices and thus could be part of the solution. They
are not as much "drivers" as "driven" by the system, if you know what
I mean.
4- SUV DRIVERS: They hate people with a passion. They are a threat
even to common drivers. Tinted windows mean "don't mess with me." On
top of that, they oppose every effort toward modern transportation
systems. Funny thing is they deny Climate Change to avoid
responsibility and supported the war in Iraq based on trumped up
charges. Why would they even care the Iraqis lacked "democracy"?
Predictably they came up with a Gated Community around Baghdad.
5- PEDESTRIANS: They are not very clever by refusing to take advantage
of the wheel. A cyclist is much cooler and has a "beast of burden" at
his disposal. Often they are public transportation users. Elderly are
OK though --except when they vote and ignore the issues.
I think I said enough. The Wise Man leaves something to the
imagination.
Dan O
Jun 2, 2012, 11:17:30 PM6/2/12
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Without reading any of the post, I just have to say that you *do*,
sometimes, have a way with a subject line. (Hmm... have I been
trolled? Hmmm... ) This one has a definite breadth of truth to it,
but a narrowness, too. Haters *do* find a lot to "like" in the USA;
but stong as they are, they cannot prevail. We're workin' on it.
(Did I tell everybody that Ringo is bringing peace and love to music
shows around the country this summer?)
race...@yahoo.com
Jun 3, 2012, 10:05:02 AM6/3/12
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I must agree, I can carry quite a bit on the bicycle, and use a backpack to lug the big things like gallons of milk, dog food, and kitty litter.
Normally, I use a removable trunk rack that grips the seat post, and this carries quite a bit. It sports bungee loops on the sides. When it's time to go for a ride for fun (well, even commuting in the rain is a "ride for fun", come to think of it, but I hope you get my point) I take the rack off and use the little "tool bag" with a spare tube and levers. "Riding naked" with no rack is joy, as the bicycle flicks about with its lowest mass.
For carrying the biggest loads, I like the single-wheel BOB trailer best, and the thing is big enough to heft a beer keg, nimble enough to avoid the face-eating zombies that seem to be blocking the bicycle lanes recently.
Thinking of zombies, drop handlebars are better than the "flats" as you have better control, and can knock them with a peleton-style elbow flick. As the SUVs run out of fuel, you will see more zombies ambling about aimlessly. You haven't seen them until now, as they were hiding behind window tinting.
Normally, I use a removable trunk rack that grips the seat post, and this carries quite a bit. It sports bungee loops on the sides. When it's time to go for a ride for fun (well, even commuting in the rain is a "ride for fun", come to think of it, but I hope you get my point) I take the rack off and use the little "tool bag" with a spare tube and levers. "Riding naked" with no rack is joy, as the bicycle flicks about with its lowest mass.
For carrying the biggest loads, I like the single-wheel BOB trailer best, and the thing is big enough to heft a beer keg, nimble enough to avoid the face-eating zombies that seem to be blocking the bicycle lanes recently.
Thinking of zombies, drop handlebars are better than the "flats" as you have better control, and can knock them with a peleton-style elbow flick. As the SUVs run out of fuel, you will see more zombies ambling about aimlessly. You haven't seen them until now, as they were hiding behind window tinting.
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Jun 3, 2012, 11:29:19 AM6/3/12
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On Jun 3, 10:05 am, "racer...@yahoo.com" <racer...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I must agree, I can carry quite a bit on the bicycle, and use a backpack to lug the big things like gallons of milk, dog food, and kitty litter.
>
> Normally, I use a removable trunk rack that grips the seat post, and this carries quite a bit. It sports bungee loops on the sides. When it's time to go for a ride for fun (well, even commuting in the rain is a "ride for fun", come to think of it, but I hope you get my point) I take the rack off and use the little "tool bag" with a spare tube and levers. "Riding naked" with no rack is joy, as the bicycle flicks about with its lowest mass.
>
> For carrying the biggest loads, I like the single-wheel BOB trailer best, and the thing is big enough to heft a beer keg, nimble enough to avoid the face-eating zombies that seem to be blocking the bicycle lanes recently.
I like loading bikes as if they were real life SUBs. I meant bicycles
> I must agree, I can carry quite a bit on the bicycle, and use a backpack to lug the big things like gallons of milk, dog food, and kitty litter.
>
> Normally, I use a removable trunk rack that grips the seat post, and this carries quite a bit. It sports bungee loops on the sides. When it's time to go for a ride for fun (well, even commuting in the rain is a "ride for fun", come to think of it, but I hope you get my point) I take the rack off and use the little "tool bag" with a spare tube and levers. "Riding naked" with no rack is joy, as the bicycle flicks about with its lowest mass.
>
> For carrying the biggest loads, I like the single-wheel BOB trailer best, and the thing is big enough to heft a beer keg, nimble enough to avoid the face-eating zombies that seem to be blocking the bicycle lanes recently.
are the real utility vehicles without the penalty. I can load a lot on
a cargo bike --more so than a trike. I got single wheel trailers but
not the BOB. I also own two wheel trailers and each has its
advantages. I must have been pulling like 100 lbs when my three speed
bike became very heavy.
>
> Thinking of zombies, drop handlebars are better than the "flats" as you have better control, and can knock them with a peleton-style elbow flick. As the SUVs run out of fuel, you will see more zombies ambling about aimlessly. You haven't seen them until now, as they were hiding behind window tinting.
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Jun 3, 2012, 2:02:10 PM6/3/12
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noise and be noticed. They ignore us, they pay a price. It's like the
Taliban repressing women. Maybe the UN should intervene here and
rescue cyclists and pedestrians. Just kidding. ;)
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Jun 3, 2012, 2:09:25 PM6/3/12
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On Jun 2, 11:40 pm, Sanford Manley <ansa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> it's easy. Hitler knew how to do it and took one
> of the most educated people in Europe to aggressive
> war and genocide. The communists knew what to say
> and how to say it and sacrificed millions in
> their collective schemes. Despite all we think we know,
> it will happen again through the use of politics,
> religion, class envy, or racial hatred.
>
> --
> Sanford: Now with Skype! Email for details!
Almost right but nobody is preaching class envy. Just that the Rich
have become too powerful and arrogant after the fall of USSR and the
rise of Globalization.
It used to be they lived with the common people and drove fine
European sedans. Now they live in Gated Communities and drive SUVs
with tinted windows.
> On 6/2/2012 2:40 PM, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
>
>
>
> > Yeah, but I hope this arrogant statement isn't true:
>
> > "We can hire half the people to kill the other half."
>
> Heh....if you know what to pay and what to say,
>
>
>
> > Yeah, but I hope this arrogant statement isn't true:
>
> > "We can hire half the people to kill the other half."
>
> it's easy. Hitler knew how to do it and took one
> of the most educated people in Europe to aggressive
> war and genocide. The communists knew what to say
> and how to say it and sacrificed millions in
> their collective schemes. Despite all we think we know,
> it will happen again through the use of politics,
> religion, class envy, or racial hatred.
>
> --
> Sanford: Now with Skype! Email for details!
Almost right but nobody is preaching class envy. Just that the Rich
have become too powerful and arrogant after the fall of USSR and the
rise of Globalization.
It used to be they lived with the common people and drove fine
European sedans. Now they live in Gated Communities and drive SUVs
with tinted windows.
Dan O
Jun 3, 2012, 2:49:47 PM6/3/12
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On Jun 3, 7:05 am, "racer...@yahoo.com" <racer...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I must agree, I can carry quite a bit on the bicycle, and use a backpack to lug the big things like gallons of milk, dog food, and kitty litter.
>
> Normally, I use a removable trunk rack that grips the seat post, and this carries quite a bit. It sports bungee loops on the sides. When it's time to go for a ride for fun (well, even commuting in the rain is a "ride for fun"...
> I must agree, I can carry quite a bit on the bicycle, and use a backpack to lug the big things like gallons of milk, dog food, and kitty litter.
>
Yes! Yes it is. I am your brother.
> ..., come to think of it, but I hope you get my point) I take the rack off and use the little "tool bag" with a spare tube and levers. "Riding naked" with no rack is joy, as the bicycle flicks about with its lowest mass.
>
IME, riding with a naked (or even nearly so) but permanently mounted
lightweight rear Tubus rack offers essentially the same nimbleness.
I also have a permanently attached front rack - a big one (Surly Nice
Rack). That really sucks the handling out of things. Pisses me off
because the worst of the unnecessary weight is the stupid universal
mounting hardware required for mounting the Surly Rack to the Surly
touring bike!
For ultimate naked bike throwing around, I leave the LHT at home and
ride my full-rigid Stumpjumper.
> For carrying the biggest loads, I like the single-wheel BOB trailer best, and the thing is big enough to heft a beer keg, nimble enough to avoid the face-eating zombies that seem to be blocking the bicycle lanes recently.
>
long runs, but the store's only a few blocks away.
> Thinking of zombies, drop handlebars are better than the "flats" as you have better control, and can knock them with a peleton-style elbow flick. As the SUVs run out of fuel, you will see more zombies ambling about aimlessly. You haven't seen them until now, as they were hiding behind window tinting.
*have* to ride bike because they can't afford to drive, and they
dissociate themselves from the experience to numb the self-perceived
stigma, resulting in the zombie countenance. The noobs fresh out
their SUV's - and I know this term is politically incorrect and can be
insensitive as often applied, but in this case I think it fits - the
noob bike commuters just trying to save gas ride like a bunch of
retards.
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Jun 3, 2012, 2:58:55 PM6/3/12
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On Jun 3, 2:32 pm, MattB <trdell1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 11:16:38 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach
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> Cruiser Philosopher" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Jun 3, 1:00 pm, MattB <trdell1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 08:30:38 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach
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> >> Cruiser Philosopher" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> >> http://goo.gl/4Xr9J
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> >There are new trailers in the market that are very affordable (~100
> >bucks). I got a dog trailer but it's for a big dog and my chihuahua
> >weighs 3 lbs. He goes in the basket.
>
> They've gone down in price good. Have a friend that has a
> Chihuahua I call it the dog that can bite you 3 times in a heartbeat.
> Nice dog as long as you don't touch her master.
>
> Sadly my Dog passed away a few months ago, she was 17. She was 16,
> in that photo.
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> >His motto and mine are the same: "out of the cage no matter what."
My chihuahua is still a puppy but doesn't bite or barks that much. He
growls sometimes but only when he's sleep and somebody pets him.
Good pet to socialize and LOVE HUMANITY!
> On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 11:16:38 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach
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> Cruiser Philosopher" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Jun 3, 1:00 pm, MattB <trdell1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 08:30:38 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach
>
> >> Cruiser Philosopher" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >On Jun 3, 10:05 am, "racer...@yahoo.com" <racer...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> I must agree, I can carry quite a bit on the bicycle, and use a backpack to lug the big things like gallons of milk, dog food, and kitty litter.
>
> >> >> Normally, I use a removable trunk rack that grips the seat post, and this carries quite a bit. It sports bungee loops on the sides. When it's time to go for a ride for fun (well, even commuting in the rain is a "ride for fun", come to think of it, but I hope you get my point) I take the rack off and use the little "tool bag" with a spare tube and levers. "Riding naked" with no rack is joy, as the bicycle flicks about with its lowest mass.
> >> >> I must agree, I can carry quite a bit on the bicycle, and use a backpack to lug the big things like gallons of milk, dog food, and kitty litter.
>
>
> >> >> For carrying the biggest loads, I like the single-wheel BOB trailer best, and the thing is big enough to heft a beer keg, nimble enough to avoid the face-eating zombies that seem to be blocking the bicycle lanes recently.
>
> >> >> For carrying the biggest loads, I like the single-wheel BOB trailer best, and the thing is big enough to heft a beer keg, nimble enough to avoid the face-eating zombies that seem to be blocking the bicycle lanes recently.
>
> >> >I like loading bikes as if they were real life SUBs. I meant bicycles
> >> >are the real utility vehicles without the penalty. I can load a lot on
> >> >a cargo bike --more so than a trike. I got single wheel trailers but
> >> >not the BOB. I also own two wheel trailers and each has its
> >> >advantages. I must have been pulling like 100 lbs when my three speed
> >> >bike became very heavy.
>
> >> Those trailers are great. I used to pull this.
> >> >are the real utility vehicles without the penalty. I can load a lot on
> >> >a cargo bike --more so than a trike. I got single wheel trailers but
> >> >not the BOB. I also own two wheel trailers and each has its
> >> >advantages. I must have been pulling like 100 lbs when my three speed
> >> >bike became very heavy.
>
>
> >> http://goo.gl/4Xr9J
>
> >There are new trailers in the market that are very affordable (~100
> >bucks). I got a dog trailer but it's for a big dog and my chihuahua
> >weighs 3 lbs. He goes in the basket.
>
> They've gone down in price good. Have a friend that has a
> Chihuahua I call it the dog that can bite you 3 times in a heartbeat.
> Nice dog as long as you don't touch her master.
>
> Sadly my Dog passed away a few months ago, she was 17. She was 16,
> in that photo.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >His motto and mine are the same: "out of the cage no matter what."
My chihuahua is still a puppy but doesn't bite or barks that much. He
growls sometimes but only when he's sleep and somebody pets him.
Good pet to socialize and LOVE HUMANITY!
Robert Borchert
Jun 4, 2012, 1:39:04 PM6/4/12
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For the trunk I use the simple TransIt seatpost clamp rack, the version with the quick release. The QR version doesn't have pannier loops, but there's a simple solution. The pannier version has a four-bolt seatpost clamp, and it uses the exact same "deck" as the QR type. It's secured with two small tapered-seat bolts for fore / aft adjustment, so I purchased a second rack and slid the pannier deck over to the QR- now they are interchangeable.
I love the looks, as guys see a Campagnolo Record carbon fiber seat post with a rack attached. I use a business card as a handy protective shim. In almost 20,000 km of riding, the post looks beautiful. The rack isn't loaded with more than a few pounds of load. I have a powercoated aluminum post purchased a year ago as a backup, unused so far. That Campy post is really tough.
The powdercoated rack is lightweight aluminum, but it rests about 100mm higher than a seat stay- mounted rack does (I don't have rack lugs on the dropouts with this bike).
I love the looks, as guys see a Campagnolo Record carbon fiber seat post with a rack attached. I use a business card as a handy protective shim. In almost 20,000 km of riding, the post looks beautiful. The rack isn't loaded with more than a few pounds of load. I have a powercoated aluminum post purchased a year ago as a backup, unused so far. That Campy post is really tough.
The powdercoated rack is lightweight aluminum, but it rests about 100mm higher than a seat stay- mounted rack does (I don't have rack lugs on the dropouts with this bike).
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Jun 5, 2012, 3:34:20 PM6/5/12
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On Jun 2, 3:26 pm, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
scheme. It's the PEDESTRIAN/PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION FOLKS. I thought
about it when my bike had a flat and waited for a bus for almost an
hour. Luckily I met a lady from Paris (originally from Ivory Coast)
and we had the most interesting conversation. She told me the French
as standoffish but not be because they are arrogant, just because they
are shy. She may be wrong but I spoke to her about the revolution and
gave her a flier (Welcome to the Jungle) which she may find useful
while visiting America. Anyway the bike didn't fit in the rack of the
bus and I was forced to walk for an hour in extreme heat! I thought of
jumping off one of the bridges (just to cool off) but I remembered
that's illegal.
Yes, being a pedestrian/public transportation user has its share of
reward and punishment. But that's only my humble opinion.
<nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 5- PEDESTRIANS: They are not very clever by refusing to take advantage
> of the wheel. A cyclist is much cooler and has a "beast of burden" at
> his disposal. Often they are public transportation users. Elderly are
> OK though --except when they vote and ignore the issues.
I want to talk today about the saddest people in the transportation
> 5- PEDESTRIANS: They are not very clever by refusing to take advantage
> of the wheel. A cyclist is much cooler and has a "beast of burden" at
> his disposal. Often they are public transportation users. Elderly are
> OK though --except when they vote and ignore the issues.
scheme. It's the PEDESTRIAN/PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION FOLKS. I thought
about it when my bike had a flat and waited for a bus for almost an
hour. Luckily I met a lady from Paris (originally from Ivory Coast)
and we had the most interesting conversation. She told me the French
as standoffish but not be because they are arrogant, just because they
are shy. She may be wrong but I spoke to her about the revolution and
gave her a flier (Welcome to the Jungle) which she may find useful
while visiting America. Anyway the bike didn't fit in the rack of the
bus and I was forced to walk for an hour in extreme heat! I thought of
jumping off one of the bridges (just to cool off) but I remembered
that's illegal.
Yes, being a pedestrian/public transportation user has its share of
reward and punishment. But that's only my humble opinion.
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Jun 6, 2012, 1:19:55 PM6/6/12
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On Jun 3, 2:49 pm, Dan O <danover...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 3, 7:05 am, "racer...@yahoo.com" <racer...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I must agree, I can carry quite a bit on the bicycle, and use a backpack to lug the big things like gallons of milk, dog food, and kitty litter.
>
> > Normally, I use a removable trunk rack that grips the seat post, and this carries quite a bit. It sports bungee loops on the sides. When it's time to go for a ride for fun (well, even commuting in the rain is a "ride for fun"...
>
> Yes! Yes it is. I am your brother.
>
> > ..., come to think of it, but I hope you get my point) I take the rack off and use the little "tool bag" with a spare tube and levers. "Riding naked" with no rack is joy, as the bicycle flicks about with its lowest mass.
>
> IME, riding with a naked (or even nearly so) but permanently mounted
> lightweight rear Tubus rack offers essentially the same nimbleness.
>
> I also have a permanently attached front rack - a big one (Surly Nice
> Rack). That really sucks the handling out of things. Pisses me off
> because the worst of the unnecessary weight is the stupid universal
> mounting hardware required for mounting the Surly Rack to the Surly
> touring bike!
>
> For ultimate naked bike throwing around, I leave the LHT at home and
> ride my full-rigid Stumpjumper.
>
> > For carrying the biggest loads, I like the single-wheel BOB trailer best, and the thing is big enough to heft a beer keg, nimble enough to avoid the face-eating zombies that seem to be blocking the bicycle lanes recently.
>
> I pull a big wagon with one hand behind me to the side. No good for
> long runs, but the store's only a few blocks away.
This is a new trailer on the market:
> On Jun 3, 7:05 am, "racer...@yahoo.com" <racer...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I must agree, I can carry quite a bit on the bicycle, and use a backpack to lug the big things like gallons of milk, dog food, and kitty litter.
>
> > Normally, I use a removable trunk rack that grips the seat post, and this carries quite a bit. It sports bungee loops on the sides. When it's time to go for a ride for fun (well, even commuting in the rain is a "ride for fun"...
>
> Yes! Yes it is. I am your brother.
>
> > ..., come to think of it, but I hope you get my point) I take the rack off and use the little "tool bag" with a spare tube and levers. "Riding naked" with no rack is joy, as the bicycle flicks about with its lowest mass.
>
> IME, riding with a naked (or even nearly so) but permanently mounted
> lightweight rear Tubus rack offers essentially the same nimbleness.
>
> I also have a permanently attached front rack - a big one (Surly Nice
> Rack). That really sucks the handling out of things. Pisses me off
> because the worst of the unnecessary weight is the stupid universal
> mounting hardware required for mounting the Surly Rack to the Surly
> touring bike!
>
> For ultimate naked bike throwing around, I leave the LHT at home and
> ride my full-rigid Stumpjumper.
>
> > For carrying the biggest loads, I like the single-wheel BOB trailer best, and the thing is big enough to heft a beer keg, nimble enough to avoid the face-eating zombies that seem to be blocking the bicycle lanes recently.
>
> I pull a big wagon with one hand behind me to the side. No good for
> long runs, but the store's only a few blocks away.
http://glenmark-carts.com/
I saw the brochure and it looks super good. Waterproof for sure, so
the first rain won't ruin your picnic. Don't know the price. "Made in
America" perhaps.
A family having a picnic with bikes. Something to behold but we do it
all the time. Does anyone care about "made in America" anymore.
Perhaps it's not practical.
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Jun 6, 2012, 1:29:13 PM6/6/12
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On Jun 4, 6:17 pm, bo peep <cowartmi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, June 2, 2012 1:31:02 PM UTC-6, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
>
> > 4- SUV DRIVERS: ... they oppose every effort toward modern transportation
This is what I would do when I become really famous (I'm not really
famous yet):
1- All my staff will have to ride bicycles for short distances,
2- I will fly balloons for medium distances, weather permitting,
3- I will travel by sailboat for transcontinental voyages.
All that and more will help me stay clean of gossip and innuendo.
> On Saturday, June 2, 2012 1:31:02 PM UTC-6, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
>
> > 4- SUV DRIVERS: ... they oppose every effort toward modern transportation
> > systems. Funny thing is they deny Climate Change to avoid
> > responsibility and supported the war in Iraq based on trumped up
> > charges.
>
> FYI Al Gore, the guru/preacher of climate change, owns and drives *multiple* SUVs and Lincoln Towncars. Here is a picture of his mansion, with multiple SUVs parked in the driveways.
> > responsibility and supported the war in Iraq based on trumped up
> > charges.
>
This is what I would do when I become really famous (I'm not really
famous yet):
1- All my staff will have to ride bicycles for short distances,
2- I will fly balloons for medium distances, weather permitting,
3- I will travel by sailboat for transcontinental voyages.
All that and more will help me stay clean of gossip and innuendo.
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Jun 6, 2012, 1:52:07 PM6/6/12
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On Jun 5, 9:41 pm, "ala" <alackr...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0a186613-46ea-4fa2...@f30g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> inhibition
If they were unfriendly they would have adapted the American way. And
there's no evidence of big fat SUVs with tinted windows and gated
communities. Guns have not made their way either into the French
psyche. They have produced a madman of international recognition
(comparable to the Republican leaders), but that's way behind...
http://scholarscopes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/napoleon-bonaparte.jpg
Everybody has come to their senses in Europe and are trying to make
life nice for people. Public transportation and bikes are just obvious
examples.
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0a186613-46ea-4fa2...@f30g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
>
> >She told me the French
> >as standoffish but not be because they are arrogant, just because they
> >are shy.
>
> it's not the first time I have heard someone confuse aloof with social
> >She told me the French
> >as standoffish but not be because they are arrogant, just because they
> >are shy.
>
> inhibition
If they were unfriendly they would have adapted the American way. And
there's no evidence of big fat SUVs with tinted windows and gated
communities. Guns have not made their way either into the French
psyche. They have produced a madman of international recognition
(comparable to the Republican leaders), but that's way behind...
http://scholarscopes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/napoleon-bonaparte.jpg
Everybody has come to their senses in Europe and are trying to make
life nice for people. Public transportation and bikes are just obvious
examples.
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Jun 7, 2012, 2:45:26 PM6/7/12
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On Jun 6, 8:32 pm, "ala" <alackr...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> wrote in messagenews:0ea3f966-158b-442d...@i19g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>
> United States: EPA Enforcement Priorities for Fiscal Year 2013 May Impact
> Compliance Strategies
>
> Article by Arthur Harrington and Matthew T. Kemp of Godfrey Kahn SC
>
> The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)'s Office of Enforcement and
> Compliance Assurance (OECA) recently released draft guidance for its
> enforcement priorities for FY 2013 1. The EPA will be focusing on the
> following national enforcement priorities impacting a wide range of industry
> and state and local governments:
>
> Cleaning up communities
> - increase use of the Resource Conservation and Recovery Act (RCRA)
> corrective action to force polluters to clean up contamination in urban
> areas that impact minority communities
> - increase focus on environmental justice concerns
> Reducing water pollution from raw sewage and contaminated stormwater
> - reduce overflows from combined and sanitary sewers (CSOs and SSOs)
> - incorporate green infrastructure activities into permitting and
> enforcement actions
> Cutting animal waste to protect surface and ground waters
> - focus on concentrated animal feeding operations (CAFOs)
> Reducing widespread air pollution (including greenhouse gases) from the
> largest sources, especially the coal-fired utility, cement, glass, and acid
> sectors
> - focus on compliance with Greenhouse Gas Reporting Rule
> - encourage greenhouse gas emission reductions through settlements
> Cutting toxic air pollution that affects communities' health, focusing:
> - leak detection and repair
> - waste gas flares (particularly at petroleum refineries and chemical,
> petrochemical, and polymer manufacturers)
> - excess emissions (e.g., associated with startup, shutdown, malfunction)
> Assuring energy extraction sector compliance with environmental laws
> - focus on natural gas drilling and fracking
> Reducing pollution from mineral processing operations
It does not make any easier to cut down my own contribution to
pollution in the most important ways:
1- It makes my riding a bike an act of heroism. I come under attack
for lack of proper facilities and enforcement.
2- Recycling is absent where I live. Wastefulness is a way of life,
including a beach path that is excessively lit all night.
3- Animal waste is everywhere in my community. I say, "My community is
full of shit."
> "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> wrote in messagenews:0ea3f966-158b-442d...@i19g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>
> >If they were unfriendly they would have adapted the American way. And
> >there's no evidence of big fat SUVs with tinted windows and gated
> >communities. Guns have not made their way either into the French
> >psyche. They have produced a madman of international recognition
> >(comparable to the Republican leaders), but that's way behind...
> >http://scholarscopes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/napoleon-bonapart...
> >If they were unfriendly they would have adapted the American way. And
> >there's no evidence of big fat SUVs with tinted windows and gated
> >communities. Guns have not made their way either into the French
> >psyche. They have produced a madman of international recognition
> >(comparable to the Republican leaders), but that's way behind...
> >Everybody has come to their senses in Europe and are trying to make
> >life nice for people. Public transportation and bikes are just obvious
>
> .examples.
> >life nice for people. Public transportation and bikes are just obvious
>
>
> United States: EPA Enforcement Priorities for Fiscal Year 2013 May Impact
> Compliance Strategies
>
> Article by Arthur Harrington and Matthew T. Kemp of Godfrey Kahn SC
>
> The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)'s Office of Enforcement and
> Compliance Assurance (OECA) recently released draft guidance for its
> enforcement priorities for FY 2013 1. The EPA will be focusing on the
> following national enforcement priorities impacting a wide range of industry
> and state and local governments:
>
> Cleaning up communities
> - increase use of the Resource Conservation and Recovery Act (RCRA)
> corrective action to force polluters to clean up contamination in urban
> areas that impact minority communities
> - increase focus on environmental justice concerns
> Reducing water pollution from raw sewage and contaminated stormwater
> - reduce overflows from combined and sanitary sewers (CSOs and SSOs)
> - incorporate green infrastructure activities into permitting and
> enforcement actions
> Cutting animal waste to protect surface and ground waters
> - focus on concentrated animal feeding operations (CAFOs)
> Reducing widespread air pollution (including greenhouse gases) from the
> largest sources, especially the coal-fired utility, cement, glass, and acid
> sectors
> - focus on compliance with Greenhouse Gas Reporting Rule
> - encourage greenhouse gas emission reductions through settlements
> Cutting toxic air pollution that affects communities' health, focusing:
> - leak detection and repair
> - waste gas flares (particularly at petroleum refineries and chemical,
> petrochemical, and polymer manufacturers)
> - excess emissions (e.g., associated with startup, shutdown, malfunction)
> Assuring energy extraction sector compliance with environmental laws
> - focus on natural gas drilling and fracking
> Reducing pollution from mineral processing operations
It does not make any easier to cut down my own contribution to
pollution in the most important ways:
1- It makes my riding a bike an act of heroism. I come under attack
for lack of proper facilities and enforcement.
2- Recycling is absent where I live. Wastefulness is a way of life,
including a beach path that is excessively lit all night.
3- Animal waste is everywhere in my community. I say, "My community is
full of shit."
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Jun 9, 2012, 11:06:36 PM6/9/12
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I want to clarify that in no way I imply the French character is
better than the American character. The problem is the system that I
charactize as "fuck or be fucked." Case in point is that cars won't
yield to pedestrians and when one does the other comes behind and
blasts the horn! It happened to me two days in a row. The situation is
so dire that I find "throwing myself" at cars that won't give me the
right of way. I was screaming today "go" at my girlfriend who
hesitatated to practice this suicidal strategy. It's like you are an
insect or a monkey which proves my case that this is a jungle.
better than the American character. The problem is the system that I
charactize as "fuck or be fucked." Case in point is that cars won't
yield to pedestrians and when one does the other comes behind and
blasts the horn! It happened to me two days in a row. The situation is
so dire that I find "throwing myself" at cars that won't give me the
right of way. I was screaming today "go" at my girlfriend who
hesitatated to practice this suicidal strategy. It's like you are an
insect or a monkey which proves my case that this is a jungle.
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Jun 10, 2012, 4:01:40 PM6/10/12
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On Jun 9, 11:56 pm, Orval Fairbairn <orfairba...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> In article
> <0b6b2f20-3820-4a56-a483-e2ec6424d...@j10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
> Darwin, here he comes!
He was almost right. He failed to describe that the fittest (people
physically active) fall prey to the unfit idiots.
Anyway, here I go:
On Jun 10, 6:26 am, Neolazarusx <neolazar...@nomailforoldmen.net>
> Your humble socialist opinion.
Sorry, coexisting with traffic is not a socialist enterprise, just a
social enterprise. Only in a "dog eat dog" system this is impossible
or difficult.
> In article
> <0b6b2f20-3820-4a56-a483-e2ec6424d...@j10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
> "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
>
>
He was almost right. He failed to describe that the fittest (people
physically active) fall prey to the unfit idiots.
Anyway, here I go:
On Jun 10, 6:26 am, Neolazarusx <neolazar...@nomailforoldmen.net>
wrote:
> "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
>
> "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
>
Sorry, coexisting with traffic is not a socialist enterprise, just a
social enterprise. Only in a "dog eat dog" system this is impossible
or difficult.
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Jun 10, 2012, 4:19:10 PM6/10/12
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On Jun 10, 9:49 am, mind <being@.... --- -- .> wrote:
> to which you are referring, albeit, considered clarified.
Yeah, like yin and yang. There must a balanced or else something is
really fucked up.
>
> > Case in point is that cars won't
> >yield to pedestrians and when one does the other comes behind and
> >blasts the horn!
>
> An interesting zone you are in there.
> is attempting to get your attention.
>
> Lotsa possibilities.
>
> Cars usually stop at what are called, red lights.
> Then it is safe to cross the street.
>
> Even then, it's best to use caution.
>
> There's a verse in the TTC (Tao Te Ching)
> about how the ancient wise ones approached
> situations. I think it might be 15.
>
> Yes. Here's a link to comparitive translations.
>
> http://www.wayist.org/ttc%20compared/chap15.htm
>
> People have been known to get hit by cars
> when there are cross-walks. Cars don't stop,
> nor do the drivers even see the walkers.
>
> Cross-walks are dangerous. Definitely.
>
> One would do better to cross at intersections
> where there are no painted lines.
>
> Then one is more aware of the dangers.
>
> Or so I have been told, by the police
> who scrape bodies off the pavement.
> Do you scream at her often?
Only when needed for her own survival. Speed is great factor in
survival. Precious moments is all the predator needs. If she waits for
a car, then she must wait for a long line of cars. Then we must
abandon the outing and go home. They try intimidation and when that
doesn't work, they may keep their distance. Same psychology you follow
with the beast. They sense fear and attack.
>
> > It's like you are an
> >insect or a monkey which proves my case that this is a jungle.
>
> I'm not sure what counts as proof for me.
Sorry, if that doesn't count, then EMPTY STREETS speak for it. People
live in fear.
>
> To cite an example, an anecdote, or correlation
> tends not to be considered as proof by skeptics.
>
> To draw an analogy might not be a proof.
>
> Causality might need to meet more stringent standards
> in order to be accepted as scientific.
>
> But, then again, you didn't mention science.
>
> You seem to fall more into the religious arena
> in your views, world-view, strategies, etc..
>
> To use more metaphor might be to deepen the truth
> value of your statements or extend the reach
> of what you are pointing toward.
>
> I dunno though.
> The whole jungle thing reminds me of a gym.
>
> For you, there seems to be a bad connotation.
> For me, there's usually a good connotation.
>
> Exercise can take various shapes.
> Some can be in futility.
> Nothing more. Nothing less.
> Accepting reality as reality can be a way
> to begin to discover what rests within.
>
> Assuming, of course, reality is more than a word.
>
> My Aunt once called Los Angeles a concrete jungle.
>
> She did so in response to a comment I'd made,
> at around age 18, expressing my desire to live in
> the jungles of South America, to live off the land,
> in an ideal climate, where food is plentiful.
>
> She said she loved the hustle and bustle of the city.
> Apparently millions, perhaps billions, of people agree.
>
> Some however, are intent and content to complain.
> They seem to be trapped by their circumstances
> and able to find no escape.
>
> I have found meditation to help me
> when trapped by thoughts. Words. Ha!
>
> Painting oneself into a corner can be fun.
> Unpainting oneself from a boxing ring
> of truth can be a challenge.
>
> At times
> temporal, at others, while at one,
> more of an eternal sorta sortation process.
>
> Peace of mind
> might be balanced by
> what is called warfare of the mind.
>
> Taoism might point out how
> good-bad are two sides of a coin.
>
> You may want a coin to land on one side
> and wish the other side to not exist.
>
> That might not be how reality works.
>
> Assuming, of course, reality is more
> than simply a word.
>
> - on a screen going thru one
Reality depends on the viewpoint of the species if you used the Wisdom
of the Jungle. For us mosquitoes are a nuisance, for them they are
just making a living. "Bloodsucking" is a compliment among them.
> TibetanMonkey wrote:
> >I want to clarify that in no way I imply the French character is
> >better than the American character.
>
> I missed whatever reference
> >I want to clarify that in no way I imply the French character is
> >better than the American character.
>
> to which you are referring, albeit, considered clarified.
>
> > The problem is the system that I
> >charactize as "fuck or be fucked."
>
> An interesting duality you have there.
> > The problem is the system that I
> >charactize as "fuck or be fucked."
>
Yeah, like yin and yang. There must a balanced or else something is
really fucked up.
>
> > Case in point is that cars won't
> >yield to pedestrians and when one does the other comes behind and
> >blasts the horn!
>
>
> > It happened to me two days in a row.
>
> Perhaps life, or some other realm,
> > It happened to me two days in a row.
>
> is attempting to get your attention.
>
> Lotsa possibilities.
>
> > The situation is
> >so dire that I find "throwing myself" at cars that won't give me the
> >right of way.
>
> Where I live they have what are called, signals.
> > The situation is
> >so dire that I find "throwing myself" at cars that won't give me the
> >right of way.
>
>
> Cars usually stop at what are called, red lights.
> Then it is safe to cross the street.
>
> Even then, it's best to use caution.
>
> There's a verse in the TTC (Tao Te Ching)
> about how the ancient wise ones approached
> situations. I think it might be 15.
>
> Yes. Here's a link to comparitive translations.
>
> http://www.wayist.org/ttc%20compared/chap15.htm
>
> People have been known to get hit by cars
> when there are cross-walks. Cars don't stop,
> nor do the drivers even see the walkers.
>
> Cross-walks are dangerous. Definitely.
>
> One would do better to cross at intersections
> where there are no painted lines.
>
> Then one is more aware of the dangers.
>
> Or so I have been told, by the police
> who scrape bodies off the pavement.
>
> > I was screaming today "go" at my girlfriend who
> >hesitatated to practice this suicidal strategy.
>
> An interesting strategy you have there.
> > I was screaming today "go" at my girlfriend who
> >hesitatated to practice this suicidal strategy.
>
> Do you scream at her often?
Only when needed for her own survival. Speed is great factor in
survival. Precious moments is all the predator needs. If she waits for
a car, then she must wait for a long line of cars. Then we must
abandon the outing and go home. They try intimidation and when that
doesn't work, they may keep their distance. Same psychology you follow
with the beast. They sense fear and attack.
>
> > It's like you are an
> >insect or a monkey which proves my case that this is a jungle.
>
Sorry, if that doesn't count, then EMPTY STREETS speak for it. People
live in fear.
>
> To cite an example, an anecdote, or correlation
> tends not to be considered as proof by skeptics.
>
> To draw an analogy might not be a proof.
>
> Causality might need to meet more stringent standards
> in order to be accepted as scientific.
>
> But, then again, you didn't mention science.
>
> You seem to fall more into the religious arena
> in your views, world-view, strategies, etc..
>
> To use more metaphor might be to deepen the truth
> value of your statements or extend the reach
> of what you are pointing toward.
>
> I dunno though.
> The whole jungle thing reminds me of a gym.
>
> For you, there seems to be a bad connotation.
> For me, there's usually a good connotation.
>
> Exercise can take various shapes.
> Some can be in futility.
>
> >But that's only my humble opinion.
>
> Well, for some folks a city is a city.
> >But that's only my humble opinion.
>
> Nothing more. Nothing less.
> Accepting reality as reality can be a way
> to begin to discover what rests within.
>
> Assuming, of course, reality is more than a word.
>
> My Aunt once called Los Angeles a concrete jungle.
>
> She did so in response to a comment I'd made,
> at around age 18, expressing my desire to live in
> the jungles of South America, to live off the land,
> in an ideal climate, where food is plentiful.
>
> She said she loved the hustle and bustle of the city.
> Apparently millions, perhaps billions, of people agree.
>
> Some however, are intent and content to complain.
> They seem to be trapped by their circumstances
> and able to find no escape.
>
> I have found meditation to help me
> when trapped by thoughts. Words. Ha!
>
> Painting oneself into a corner can be fun.
> Unpainting oneself from a boxing ring
> of truth can be a challenge.
>
> At times
> temporal, at others, while at one,
> more of an eternal sorta sortation process.
>
> Peace of mind
> might be balanced by
> what is called warfare of the mind.
>
> Taoism might point out how
> good-bad are two sides of a coin.
>
> You may want a coin to land on one side
> and wish the other side to not exist.
>
> That might not be how reality works.
>
> Assuming, of course, reality is more
> than simply a word.
>
> - on a screen going thru one
Reality depends on the viewpoint of the species if you used the Wisdom
of the Jungle. For us mosquitoes are a nuisance, for them they are
just making a living. "Bloodsucking" is a compliment among them.
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Jun 15, 2012, 9:36:54 AM6/15/12
to
On May 30, 2:20 pm, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
right. Well, it's perhaps the Wisdom of the Jungle gives me this sense
of sharp awareness of the world that facts follow my humble opinions.
Case in point is New York (City) above.
Now it has been proven that living in New York makes you live longer.
Perhaps it's because the monkey is out of the cage, perhaps it's
because they are rewarding positive behavior ("positive conditioning"
I think it's called) that people are eating better, banning smoking
and thus living longer. The saying "I love NY" now has a deeper
meaning. We may have to add "but I hate America" --at least the
America that hates people.
(I QUOTE)
Want to Live Longer? Move to NYC
While life expectancy in many parts of the United States is dropping,
it has increased by 10 years in Manhattan since 1987. Researchers
largely attribute that rise — the fastest in the nation — to a
crackdown by the New York City health department on unhealthy
behaviors.
Manhattanites can now expect to live to the ripe old age of 82, and
the average life expectancy across all five New York City boroughs is
80.6 years. That's three years beyond the national average, and a
striking turnaround since the city's low point in 1990, when life
expectancy there trailed the U.S. average by three years.
The numbers come from researchers at the University of Washington's
Institute for Heath Metrics and Evaluation, who recently estimated the
life expectancies in all 3,147 independent American cities and
counties each year from 1987 through 2009. Even with New York's
success, the IHME team found life expectancy in the country as a whole
lengthened just 1.7 years per decade, a slower pace of progress than
in the world's most long-lived countries. (The United States ranks
50th in that regard, according to the CIA World Fact Book.)
So, why is New York doing so well, and how can other U.S. cities get
their residents' longevities up to speed? [Infographic: A Day in the
Life of the Average American]
According to the British medical journal The Lancet, most gains made
during the 1990s aren't replicable elsewhere. The city ramped up its
life expectancy by reining in homicide rates and HIV/AIDS-related
mortality, both of which had weighed down the average at the beginning
of the decade.
However, gains made after 2000 reflect true improvements in individual
health. Mirroring the national average, some 87 percent of deaths in
the Big Apple result from noncommunicable diseases — preventable
ailments such as heart disease and lung cancer — but the number of
yearly deaths from those causes is steadily falling. The IHME
researchers determined that more than 60 percent of the increase in
New Yorkers' life expectancy since 2000 can be attributed to
reductions in heart disease, cancer, diabetes and stroke.
Lead researcher Ali Mokdad said the reduction is largely thanks to
aggressive efforts by city health officials to simply take away
unhealthy choices from residents. The health department has, for
example, banned trans fats, prohibited smoking in public spaces and
hiked taxes on cigarettes. It has also rolled out hundreds of miles of
new bicycle lanes, mandated the use of calorie labels on menus in
chain restaurants and plastered posters up in subways with information
about the risks of obesity and the benefits of preventive health
services. [What Are the Leading Causes of Death?]
At the moment the city is considering a partial ban on large servings
of sugar-sweetened drinks, which would go into effect next year.
“For way too long, public health departments have defined their
responsibilities as essentially infectious- disease control rather
than improvement of health of the population," New York City Health
Commissioner Thomas Farley told The Lancet. In 21st-century New York,
the real concerns are tobacco, poor nutrition and inactivity, so the
health department has made them their new focus, he said. "It's not a
given that we're going to continue to have high rates of smoking and
high rates of [noncommunicable] diseases; those are as preventable as
infectious diseases were 150 years ago."
http://www.livescience.com/20964-life-expectancy-nyc.html
***
WORD FROM THE WISE: WE NEED TO BE OUT OF THE CAGE AND SOCIALIZE.
REWARD GOOD BEHAVIOR, PUNISH BAD BEHAVIOR. RIDE BIKE!!! Notice how the
rest of America sucks while those who can afford it move to Gated
Communities, thus leaving communities --which they consider the
jungle-- fall apart. I'm telling you, "MY COMMUNITY IS FULL OF
SHIT" (that's dog shit and cat shit and people give a shit) and that's
very bad. And it could be worse. While my community has people going
around, most communities have no people in sight. It's like a disease
has hit town and everybody is dead. And that disease --my dear
friends-- is FEAR. Maybe the political system is falling apart too.
Are these ghostowns governed by anyone? I can only think of a cure:
MAKE PEOPLE RIDE BIKES AND ENJOY LIFE.
<nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> But that's the American way, though some say that's the model
> pioneered by Los Angeles. New York is not like that. But even in the
> southern sprawls there's hope: the MIGHTY BIKE. It may just be the
> vehicle of liberation, I mean liberation from the cage.
>
> But that's only my humble opinion.
I don't want to brag about my humbleness, but everytime I get it
> But that's the American way, though some say that's the model
> pioneered by Los Angeles. New York is not like that. But even in the
> southern sprawls there's hope: the MIGHTY BIKE. It may just be the
> vehicle of liberation, I mean liberation from the cage.
>
> But that's only my humble opinion.
right. Well, it's perhaps the Wisdom of the Jungle gives me this sense
of sharp awareness of the world that facts follow my humble opinions.
Case in point is New York (City) above.
Now it has been proven that living in New York makes you live longer.
Perhaps it's because the monkey is out of the cage, perhaps it's
because they are rewarding positive behavior ("positive conditioning"
I think it's called) that people are eating better, banning smoking
and thus living longer. The saying "I love NY" now has a deeper
meaning. We may have to add "but I hate America" --at least the
America that hates people.
(I QUOTE)
Want to Live Longer? Move to NYC
While life expectancy in many parts of the United States is dropping,
it has increased by 10 years in Manhattan since 1987. Researchers
largely attribute that rise — the fastest in the nation — to a
crackdown by the New York City health department on unhealthy
behaviors.
Manhattanites can now expect to live to the ripe old age of 82, and
the average life expectancy across all five New York City boroughs is
80.6 years. That's three years beyond the national average, and a
striking turnaround since the city's low point in 1990, when life
expectancy there trailed the U.S. average by three years.
The numbers come from researchers at the University of Washington's
Institute for Heath Metrics and Evaluation, who recently estimated the
life expectancies in all 3,147 independent American cities and
counties each year from 1987 through 2009. Even with New York's
success, the IHME team found life expectancy in the country as a whole
lengthened just 1.7 years per decade, a slower pace of progress than
in the world's most long-lived countries. (The United States ranks
50th in that regard, according to the CIA World Fact Book.)
So, why is New York doing so well, and how can other U.S. cities get
their residents' longevities up to speed? [Infographic: A Day in the
Life of the Average American]
According to the British medical journal The Lancet, most gains made
during the 1990s aren't replicable elsewhere. The city ramped up its
life expectancy by reining in homicide rates and HIV/AIDS-related
mortality, both of which had weighed down the average at the beginning
of the decade.
However, gains made after 2000 reflect true improvements in individual
health. Mirroring the national average, some 87 percent of deaths in
the Big Apple result from noncommunicable diseases — preventable
ailments such as heart disease and lung cancer — but the number of
yearly deaths from those causes is steadily falling. The IHME
researchers determined that more than 60 percent of the increase in
New Yorkers' life expectancy since 2000 can be attributed to
reductions in heart disease, cancer, diabetes and stroke.
Lead researcher Ali Mokdad said the reduction is largely thanks to
aggressive efforts by city health officials to simply take away
unhealthy choices from residents. The health department has, for
example, banned trans fats, prohibited smoking in public spaces and
hiked taxes on cigarettes. It has also rolled out hundreds of miles of
new bicycle lanes, mandated the use of calorie labels on menus in
chain restaurants and plastered posters up in subways with information
about the risks of obesity and the benefits of preventive health
services. [What Are the Leading Causes of Death?]
At the moment the city is considering a partial ban on large servings
of sugar-sweetened drinks, which would go into effect next year.
“For way too long, public health departments have defined their
responsibilities as essentially infectious- disease control rather
than improvement of health of the population," New York City Health
Commissioner Thomas Farley told The Lancet. In 21st-century New York,
the real concerns are tobacco, poor nutrition and inactivity, so the
health department has made them their new focus, he said. "It's not a
given that we're going to continue to have high rates of smoking and
high rates of [noncommunicable] diseases; those are as preventable as
infectious diseases were 150 years ago."
http://www.livescience.com/20964-life-expectancy-nyc.html
***
WORD FROM THE WISE: WE NEED TO BE OUT OF THE CAGE AND SOCIALIZE.
REWARD GOOD BEHAVIOR, PUNISH BAD BEHAVIOR. RIDE BIKE!!! Notice how the
rest of America sucks while those who can afford it move to Gated
Communities, thus leaving communities --which they consider the
jungle-- fall apart. I'm telling you, "MY COMMUNITY IS FULL OF
SHIT" (that's dog shit and cat shit and people give a shit) and that's
very bad. And it could be worse. While my community has people going
around, most communities have no people in sight. It's like a disease
has hit town and everybody is dead. And that disease --my dear
friends-- is FEAR. Maybe the political system is falling apart too.
Are these ghostowns governed by anyone? I can only think of a cure:
MAKE PEOPLE RIDE BIKES AND ENJOY LIFE.
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Jun 16, 2012, 11:14:43 AM6/16/12
to
On Jun 15, 4:58 pm, mind <being@.... --- -- .> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:41:06 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach
Well, you may claim the opposite too. Statistics confirm or deny the
claims of many. For example, they claim we have a bike sharing program
--similar to Paris and London-- but the statistics would show that no
more of a handful of people would take advantage of it from one end to
the other. Why? Because there are no bike facilities at all and you
are forced to ride on sidewalk. Again, that's why I propose bicycle
counters. Then we can have real statistics.
True, perhaps it's common sense too. I was hardly aware that NYC was
also trying to improve people's behavior, so everything came together
to prove me right. And this is proof of my humbleness. I don't need to
brag that I'm a prophet of something of the sort.
Are we OK with saying that "I hate people who hate people?" I think we
should. They try to make your life miserable in every possible way, so
they get my hate. I don't believe the claim that Christians love their
enemies either. Maybe some Buddhists can, but I'd not accept it at
face value.
They are not trying to lie to you. The statistics don't lie unless
they are manipulated or wrong and we have to prove it.
>
> > Researchers
> >largely attribute that rise — the fastest in the nation — to a
> >crackdown by the New York City health department on unhealthy
> >behaviors.
>
> >Manhattanites can now expect to live to the ripe old age of 82, and
> >the average life expectancy across all five New York City boroughs is
> >80.6 years. That's three years beyond the national average, and a
> >striking turnaround since the city's low point in 1990, when life
> >expectancy there trailed the U.S. average by three years.
>
> Here's a quote from another site:
>
> "Babies born in New York City in 2009 can expect to live a record 80.6
> years, nearly three years longer than in 2000 and more than two years
> longer than the current national average of 78.2 years.
>
> Life expectancy for 40-year-old New Yorkers rose to 82 in 2009, a
> 2.5-year increase from 2000 — slightly more than double the increase
> for middle-aged Americans on the whole. Life expectancy for
> 70-year-olds in New York also increased by 1.5 years, compared with
> 0.7 years for the country on average. Go figure."
>
> That suggests that if you are 40 years old now, in New York City,
> you can expect to live to be 82 (if you're in Queens or Manhatten,
> whereas the Bronx is not your best choice of boroughs) as of 2009,
> however if you were born in 2009, you can expect to live to be 80.6
> which seems a bit odd. [cf Institute's table for comparison.]
So things are getting better according to this other statistic. Gee,
there's no doubt about it now.
>
> >The numbers come from researchers at the University of Washington's
> >Institute for Heath Metrics and Evaluation, who recently estimated the
> >life expectancies in all 3,147 independent American cities and
> >counties each year from 1987 through 2009.
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/mar/26/third-babies-2012-live-100
>
> If you want to live past 100,
> you might want to be born this year
> and move to the United Kingdom.
I wonder why we became independent. We would be now a great United
Kingdom of America.
>
> And move to someplace else.
True. As a matter of fact, I will be visiting New York, so I'll get to
experience friendly people. But it won't be NYC so perhaps they have
incorporated the SUV/Gated Community culture.
> They list bike friendly roads.
Oh wait, here they lie of the time. That path that it shows may be
leading into a trap. That's why the knowledge of the asphalt jungle is
valuable. Never trust "their bike facilities." Never trust the jungle
for that matter.
>
> > I'm telling you, "MY COMMUNITY IS FULL OF
> >SHIT" (that's dog shit and cat shit and people give a shit) and that's
> >very bad. And it could be worse. While my community has people going
> >around, most communities have no people in sight. It's like a disease
> >has hit town and everybody is dead. And that disease --my dear
> >friends-- is FEAR.
>
> Is it communicable?
Yes it is. You must be placed in quarantine until it goes away.
>
> > Maybe the political system is falling apart too.
> >Are these ghostowns governed by anyone?
>
> People would be my guess.
Yeah, but the people in power are different animals though. It got
nothing to do with people riding bikes or walkable communities. They
do a job and get paid handsomely.
Lead them. London implemented a policy to restrict car access AND
create a bicycle program. Once you restrict parking or access to an
area, people would get the message that the bike is the way to go.
>
> >AND ENJOY LIFE.
>
> Reminds me of something a friend's father once said
> when one of the kids didn't want to go somewhere.
>
> "You will go
> and you will have a good time."
I'd say, "You go and find out."
Humbleness is a nonprofit attribute that special people posses. Gandhi
had it. Reagan didn't.
So now we know what the problem is, and what the solution is. What are
we waiting for?
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:41:06 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Cruiser Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On May 30, 2:20 pm, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
> ><nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> But that's the American way, though some say that's the model
> >> pioneered by Los Angeles. New York is not like that. But even in the
> >> southern sprawls there's hope: the MIGHTY BIKE. It may just be the
> >> vehicle of liberation, I mean liberation from the cage.
>
> >> But that's only my humble opinion.
>
> >I don't want to brag about my humbleness, but everytime I get it
> >right. Well, it's perhaps the Wisdom of the Jungle gives me this sense
> >of sharp awareness of the world that facts follow my humble opinions.
> >Case in point is New York (City) above.
>
> >Now it has been proven that living in New York makes you live longer.
>
> Statistics can prove most anything one desires.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Cruiser Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On May 30, 2:20 pm, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
> ><nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> But that's the American way, though some say that's the model
> >> pioneered by Los Angeles. New York is not like that. But even in the
> >> southern sprawls there's hope: the MIGHTY BIKE. It may just be the
> >> vehicle of liberation, I mean liberation from the cage.
>
> >> But that's only my humble opinion.
>
> >I don't want to brag about my humbleness, but everytime I get it
> >right. Well, it's perhaps the Wisdom of the Jungle gives me this sense
> >of sharp awareness of the world that facts follow my humble opinions.
> >Case in point is New York (City) above.
>
> >Now it has been proven that living in New York makes you live longer.
>
Well, you may claim the opposite too. Statistics confirm or deny the
claims of many. For example, they claim we have a bike sharing program
--similar to Paris and London-- but the statistics would show that no
more of a handful of people would take advantage of it from one end to
the other. Why? Because there are no bike facilities at all and you
are forced to ride on sidewalk. Again, that's why I propose bicycle
counters. Then we can have real statistics.
>
> >Perhaps it's because the monkey is out of the cage, perhaps it's
> >because they are rewarding positive behavior ("positive conditioning"
> >I think it's called) that people are eating better, banning smoking
> >and thus living longer.
>
> Perhaps it's a projection.
> >Perhaps it's because the monkey is out of the cage, perhaps it's
> >because they are rewarding positive behavior ("positive conditioning"
> >I think it's called) that people are eating better, banning smoking
> >and thus living longer.
>
True, perhaps it's common sense too. I was hardly aware that NYC was
also trying to improve people's behavior, so everything came together
to prove me right. And this is proof of my humbleness. I don't need to
brag that I'm a prophet of something of the sort.
>
> > The saying "I love NY" now has a deeper
> >meaning. We may have to add "but I hate America" --at least the
> >America that hates people.
>
> Or the America you love to hate.
> > The saying "I love NY" now has a deeper
> >meaning. We may have to add "but I hate America" --at least the
> >America that hates people.
>
Are we OK with saying that "I hate people who hate people?" I think we
should. They try to make your life miserable in every possible way, so
they get my hate. I don't believe the claim that Christians love their
enemies either. Maybe some Buddhists can, but I'd not accept it at
face value.
>
> >(I QUOTE)
>
> >Want to Live Longer? Move to NYC
>
> >While life expectancy in many parts of the United States is dropping,
> >it has increased by 10 years in Manhattan since 1987.
>
> Ever wonder how they arrived at that figure?
> >(I QUOTE)
>
> >Want to Live Longer? Move to NYC
>
> >While life expectancy in many parts of the United States is dropping,
> >it has increased by 10 years in Manhattan since 1987.
>
They are not trying to lie to you. The statistics don't lie unless
they are manipulated or wrong and we have to prove it.
>
> > Researchers
> >largely attribute that rise — the fastest in the nation — to a
> >crackdown by the New York City health department on unhealthy
> >behaviors.
>
> >Manhattanites can now expect to live to the ripe old age of 82, and
> >the average life expectancy across all five New York City boroughs is
> >80.6 years. That's three years beyond the national average, and a
> >striking turnaround since the city's low point in 1990, when life
> >expectancy there trailed the U.S. average by three years.
>
>
> "Babies born in New York City in 2009 can expect to live a record 80.6
> years, nearly three years longer than in 2000 and more than two years
> longer than the current national average of 78.2 years.
>
> Life expectancy for 40-year-old New Yorkers rose to 82 in 2009, a
> 2.5-year increase from 2000 — slightly more than double the increase
> for middle-aged Americans on the whole. Life expectancy for
> 70-year-olds in New York also increased by 1.5 years, compared with
> 0.7 years for the country on average. Go figure."
>
> That suggests that if you are 40 years old now, in New York City,
> you can expect to live to be 82 (if you're in Queens or Manhatten,
> whereas the Bronx is not your best choice of boroughs) as of 2009,
> however if you were born in 2009, you can expect to live to be 80.6
> which seems a bit odd. [cf Institute's table for comparison.]
So things are getting better according to this other statistic. Gee,
there's no doubt about it now.
>
> >The numbers come from researchers at the University of Washington's
> >Institute for Heath Metrics and Evaluation, who recently estimated the
> >life expectancies in all 3,147 independent American cities and
> >counties each year from 1987 through 2009.
>
>
> If you want to live past 100,
> you might want to be born this year
> and move to the United Kingdom.
I wonder why we became independent. We would be now a great United
Kingdom of America.
>
>
>
> >WORD FROM THE WISE: WE NEED TO BE OUT OF THE CAGE AND SOCIALIZE.
> >REWARD GOOD BEHAVIOR, PUNISH BAD BEHAVIOR. RIDE BIKE!!!
>
> http://www.aneki.com/safest_cities_america.html
>
>
> >WORD FROM THE WISE: WE NEED TO BE OUT OF THE CAGE AND SOCIALIZE.
> >REWARD GOOD BEHAVIOR, PUNISH BAD BEHAVIOR. RIDE BIKE!!!
>
>
> And move to someplace else.
True. As a matter of fact, I will be visiting New York, so I'll get to
experience friendly people. But it won't be NYC so perhaps they have
incorporated the SUV/Gated Community culture.
>
> > Notice how the
> >rest of America sucks while those who can afford it move to Gated
> >Communities, thus leaving communities --which they consider the
> >jungle-- fall apart.
>
> Have you looked at google's bike path maps?
> > Notice how the
> >rest of America sucks while those who can afford it move to Gated
> >Communities, thus leaving communities --which they consider the
> >jungle-- fall apart.
>
> They list bike friendly roads.
Oh wait, here they lie of the time. That path that it shows may be
leading into a trap. That's why the knowledge of the asphalt jungle is
valuable. Never trust "their bike facilities." Never trust the jungle
for that matter.
>
> > I'm telling you, "MY COMMUNITY IS FULL OF
> >SHIT" (that's dog shit and cat shit and people give a shit) and that's
> >very bad. And it could be worse. While my community has people going
> >around, most communities have no people in sight. It's like a disease
> >has hit town and everybody is dead. And that disease --my dear
> >friends-- is FEAR.
>
Yes it is. You must be placed in quarantine until it goes away.
>
> > Maybe the political system is falling apart too.
> >Are these ghostowns governed by anyone?
>
Yeah, but the people in power are different animals though. It got
nothing to do with people riding bikes or walkable communities. They
do a job and get paid handsomely.
>
> > I can only think of a cure:
> >MAKE PEOPLE RIDE BIKES
>
> Force them, eh.
> > I can only think of a cure:
> >MAKE PEOPLE RIDE BIKES
>
Lead them. London implemented a policy to restrict car access AND
create a bicycle program. Once you restrict parking or access to an
area, people would get the message that the bike is the way to go.
>
> >AND ENJOY LIFE.
>
> Reminds me of something a friend's father once said
> when one of the kids didn't want to go somewhere.
>
> "You will go
> and you will have a good time."
I'd say, "You go and find out."
>
> >But that's only my humble opinion.
>
> How do you define humble?
> >But that's only my humble opinion.
>
Humbleness is a nonprofit attribute that special people posses. Gandhi
had it. Reagan didn't.
So now we know what the problem is, and what the solution is. What are
we waiting for?
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Jun 17, 2012, 4:44:19 PM6/17/12
to
On Jun 16, 2:16 pm, reader <be...@apolka.net> wrote:
> And you might hate.
>
> Aside from those emotions,
> I'm not sure what else you are waiting for.
>
> I'm not waiting nor expecting
> nor trying to change anything in particular
> at the moment.
The Wise Man removes the obstacles on his path so he can continue to
meet his destiny. Sometimes the destiny is just roaming free and
that's OK too. The Wise Man always has a Plan B. There are no
sidewalks and distances are too long, then he rides a bike. Maybe not
necessary in New York City, but very important in the urban sprawl.
Let's talk in practical terms:
THEY BUILT THE SYSTEM TO DEFEAT THE PEDESTRIAN, BUT THE BIKE CAN
DEFEAT THE SYSTEM.
But that's only my humble opinion.
(I have deleted much of what you say because the Wise Man talk little
but delivers a punch. I may get back to it later when I got some more
time)
> TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
> >So now we know what the problem is, and what the solution is. What are
> >we waiting for?
>
> You might be in fear.
> >So now we know what the problem is, and what the solution is. What are
> >we waiting for?
>
> And you might hate.
>
> Aside from those emotions,
> I'm not sure what else you are waiting for.
>
> I'm not waiting nor expecting
> nor trying to change anything in particular
> at the moment.
The Wise Man removes the obstacles on his path so he can continue to
meet his destiny. Sometimes the destiny is just roaming free and
that's OK too. The Wise Man always has a Plan B. There are no
sidewalks and distances are too long, then he rides a bike. Maybe not
necessary in New York City, but very important in the urban sprawl.
Let's talk in practical terms:
THEY BUILT THE SYSTEM TO DEFEAT THE PEDESTRIAN, BUT THE BIKE CAN
DEFEAT THE SYSTEM.
But that's only my humble opinion.
but delivers a punch. I may get back to it later when I got some more
time)
Wes Groleau
Jun 17, 2012, 4:51:12 PM6/17/12
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On 06-17-2012 16:44, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
> The Wise Man removes the obstacles on his path so he can continue to
> meet his destiny. Sometimes the destiny is just roaming free and
And others complain about them on Usenet.
> The Wise Man removes the obstacles on his path so he can continue to
> meet his destiny. Sometimes the destiny is just roaming free and
--
Wes Groleau
The man who reads nothing at all is better educated
than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.
— Thomas Jefferson
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Jun 18, 2012, 11:11:32 AM6/18/12
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On Jun 17, 4:51 pm, Wes Groleau <Groleau+n...@FreeShell.org> wrote:
> On 06-17-2012 16:44, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
>
> > The Wise Man removes the obstacles on his path so he can continue to
> > meet his destiny. Sometimes the destiny is just roaming free and
>
> And others complain about them on Usenet.
Making noise is a way for monkeys to survive. Eventually they will be
> On 06-17-2012 16:44, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
>
> > The Wise Man removes the obstacles on his path so he can continue to
> > meet his destiny. Sometimes the destiny is just roaming free and
>
> And others complain about them on Usenet.
herd.
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Jun 18, 2012, 11:10:10 AM6/18/12
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On Jun 16, 12:39 pm, mind <being@.... --- -- .> wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 07:36:32 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach
> then you hate yourself. You are they
> who are making your life miserable
> in every possible way, you
> get your own hate.
>
> It's a mirror.
It won't matter to the system what a Wise Monkey thinks. But FUTURE
GENERATIONS will be harsh passing judgement on this blind, selfish,
greedy generation which readily trashes the planet. But this
generation will be gone by then, so may it not matter either. Nothing
matters in this world.
There's no right and wrong. Riding a bike or driving an SUV is the
same. Terrorists and victims are all the same. This is a post-
ideological era. There's only two types of people under Globalization:
Those with the money and those without it, which is to say winners and
losers. Buddha, Gandhi and Capone are on the same level. Actually more
people may be trying to imitate Capone than Buddha and Gandhi.
Sometimes I think of our masters --assuming we have masters-- as a
mafia.
> On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 07:36:32 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach
>
> Cruiser Philosopher" <thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Are we OK with saying that "I hate people who hate people?" I think we
> >should. They try to make your life miserable in every possible way, so
> >they get my hate.
>
> If you hate people that hate people
> Cruiser Philosopher" <thetibetanmon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Are we OK with saying that "I hate people who hate people?" I think we
> >should. They try to make your life miserable in every possible way, so
> >they get my hate.
>
> then you hate yourself. You are they
> who are making your life miserable
> in every possible way, you
> get your own hate.
>
> It's a mirror.
It won't matter to the system what a Wise Monkey thinks. But FUTURE
GENERATIONS will be harsh passing judgement on this blind, selfish,
greedy generation which readily trashes the planet. But this
generation will be gone by then, so may it not matter either. Nothing
matters in this world.
There's no right and wrong. Riding a bike or driving an SUV is the
same. Terrorists and victims are all the same. This is a post-
ideological era. There's only two types of people under Globalization:
Those with the money and those without it, which is to say winners and
losers. Buddha, Gandhi and Capone are on the same level. Actually more
people may be trying to imitate Capone than Buddha and Gandhi.
Sometimes I think of our masters --assuming we have masters-- as a
mafia.
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Jun 19, 2012, 4:34:59 PM6/19/12
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On Jun 18, 10:10 pm, mind <be...@apolka.net> wrote:
> TibetanMonkey wrote:
> > mind wrote:
>
> In a sense, you are correct.
> In another sense, incorrect.
>
> Other future generations will realize how necessary
> this phase of Earth's growth was.
>
> Without going through this phase, Earthlings
> would not have been able to colonize the galaxy.
> Perhaps you are a starfish,
> or perhaps a dragon.
I was already quite comfortable as a Wise Monkey though.
Anyway if you think about it --that's my job as philosopher-- we may
judge this generation as committing "generational holocaust" toward
future generations. Never mind it's their own children and
grandchildren who will have to fight like rats for survival. That's
the way it will be. They drive big trucks with casual disregard for
the future. But they deny the projections given by the scientists so
they are free from guilt.
If you read your history it happened before:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_Island
And then we take a spaceship and go and live in Mars. Just kidding.
> TibetanMonkey wrote:
> > mind wrote:
> >> TibetanMonkey wrote:
>
> >> >Are we OK with saying that "I hate people who hate people?" I think we
> >> >should. They try to make your life miserable in every possible way, so
> >> >they get my hate.
>
> >> If you hate people that hate people
> >> then you hate yourself. You are they
> >> who are making your life miserable
> >> in every possible way, you
> >> get your own hate.
>
> >> It's a mirror.
>
> >It won't matter to the system what a Wise Monkey thinks.
>
> There is something called reify or reification.
>
> >> >Are we OK with saying that "I hate people who hate people?" I think we
> >> >should. They try to make your life miserable in every possible way, so
> >> >they get my hate.
>
> >> If you hate people that hate people
> >> then you hate yourself. You are they
> >> who are making your life miserable
> >> in every possible way, you
> >> get your own hate.
>
> >> It's a mirror.
>
> >It won't matter to the system what a Wise Monkey thinks.
>
>
> In a sense, you are correct.
> In another sense, incorrect.
>
> >But FUTURE
> >GENERATIONS will be harsh passing judgement on this blind, selfish,
> >greedy generation which readily trashes the planet.
>
> That will be true, for some future generations.
> >But FUTURE
> >GENERATIONS will be harsh passing judgement on this blind, selfish,
> >greedy generation which readily trashes the planet.
>
>
> Other future generations will realize how necessary
> this phase of Earth's growth was.
>
> Without going through this phase, Earthlings
> would not have been able to colonize the galaxy.
> Perhaps you are a starfish,
> or perhaps a dragon.
I was already quite comfortable as a Wise Monkey though.
Anyway if you think about it --that's my job as philosopher-- we may
judge this generation as committing "generational holocaust" toward
future generations. Never mind it's their own children and
grandchildren who will have to fight like rats for survival. That's
the way it will be. They drive big trucks with casual disregard for
the future. But they deny the projections given by the scientists so
they are free from guilt.
If you read your history it happened before:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_Island
And then we take a spaceship and go and live in Mars. Just kidding.
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Jun 20, 2012, 11:07:41 AM6/20/12
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On Jun 20, 9:36 am, mind <being@.... --- -- .> wrote:
> TibetanMonkey wrote:
> > mind wrote:
> >> TibetanMonkey wrote:
>
> >> >But FUTURE
> >> >GENERATIONS will be harsh passing judgement on this blind, selfish,
> >> >greedy generation which readily trashes the planet.
>
> >> That will be true, for some future generations.
>
> >> Other future generations will realize how necessary
> >> this phase of Earth's growth was.
>
> >> Without going through this phase, Earthlings
> >> would not have been able to colonize the galaxy.
>
> >> Perhapsyouare a starfish,
> TibetanMonkey wrote:
> > mind wrote:
> >> TibetanMonkey wrote:
>
> >> >But FUTURE
> >> >GENERATIONS will be harsh passing judgement on this blind, selfish,
> >> >greedy generation which readily trashes the planet.
>
> >> That will be true, for some future generations.
>
> >> Other future generations will realize how necessary
> >> this phase of Earth's growth was.
>
> >> Without going through this phase, Earthlings
> >> would not have been able to colonize the galaxy.
>
> >> or perhaps a dragon.
>
> >I was already quite comfortable as a Wise Monkey though.
>
> >Anywayifyouthink about it --that's my job as philosopher-- we may
>
> >I was already quite comfortable as a Wise Monkey though.
>
> >judge this generation as committing "generational holocaust" toward
> >future generations.
>
> Oh.
> >future generations.
>
> I thoughtyousaid, "FUTURE GENERATIONS will be harsh ... "
Yes, they will pass harsh judgement BEFORE falling, then nobody will
say anything as the animals can not pass judgement. Maybe another
species will become smart in the future and learn from our own
mistakes. WE HUMANS ARE TOO ARROGANT TO LEARN ANYTHING. We even block
our common sense so we deny the animal even as we behave like them.
For example, ONLY PIGS AND HUMANS ARE KNOWN TO BE LAZY AND ENJOY THE
FILTH. But you don't find pigs in the wild, just wild boars, and they
love to ROAM FREE, a concept I humbly propose.
>
> > Never mind it's their own children and
> >grandchildren who will have to fight like rats for survival.
>
>
> Other future generations, most of them probably,
> will live much better than we do, just as most now
> have indoor plumbing, electricity, and such.
>
> More and more will have more and more
> rather than less and less, asyouseem to say.
You assume that "more" gives you happiness but when it means the
trashing of the planet, then it means "less."
>
> >That's the way it will be.
>
> for your internal movie or dialog or narrative
> asyoucare to scare yourself with
> or to get angry or frustrated
> about in your bouts.
Only because I'm in the cage doesn't mean I'm having bouts. I also
have fun writing. Of course, not everybody can get my humor but that's
not my problem.
>
> >They drive big trucks with casual disregard for
> >the future. But they deny the projections given by the scientists so
> >they are free from guilt.
>
>
> Doyouever wonder or question
> whyyoutend to project gloom and doom
> instead of a happy ever after?
Learn from the Kingdom of Bhutan. They give you a happy picture.
>
> >Ifyouread your history it happened before:
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_Island
>
> >And then we take a spaceship and go and live in Mars. Just kidding.
>
> In my history, we all began,
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_Island
>
> >And then we take a spaceship and go and live in Mars. Just kidding.
>
> in galaxies far away, long ago.
>
> We were stardust then, and golden.
>
> After billions of years we emerged
> from vents beneath oceans on Earth,
> eventually making our way from fire to
> fire using tools to change our ways.
>
> Eventually we shall again be stardust,
> and golden, long after the Red Giant has
> consumed what was once our home.
>
> We shall be the elements themselves,
> carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, CHON,
> basically, as we have been since the fusion
> of elements began, deep within.
>
> - nights of the realm
Forget about the Red Giant. We could be having a lot of fun before
that happens. Go for a bike ride or a walk in the woods. Then grab a
partner and look for the Tantric meaning of the Big Bang. Expansion,
then contraction. It's all part of life.
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