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Andre Jute
Dec 14, 2023, 5:54:15 PM12/14/23
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"Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
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Usenet has been pretty useless for a long, long time as a medium for exchange of useful information. Still, I'm nostalgic for the days when it was a useful medium of exchange of esoteric knowledge, like rec.audio.tube was before the Magnequest Mob tried to take it over to sell once creep's products. And RBT had already seen its best years when I arrived here around a 15 years ago and has been slipping further into the sewer with every passing year. It's not a unique experience, though; alt.guitar.amps has been a depressing graveyard since Lord Valve gave up on it or died.
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In any event, it was bound to happen. Usenet from the beginning had a problem: no easy way to post pictures (remember "begin 644? -- geez, that was out of the Ark). Usenet was on a dying curve from the day it became easy to post photographs and video elsewhere. What I find surprising, it that Google supported Usenet for so long after it stopped growing and started contracting.
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Andre Jute
"Grow or be taken over." -- Charles G Bluhdorn
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Usenet has been pretty useless for a long, long time as a medium for exchange of useful information. Still, I'm nostalgic for the days when it was a useful medium of exchange of esoteric knowledge, like rec.audio.tube was before the Magnequest Mob tried to take it over to sell once creep's products. And RBT had already seen its best years when I arrived here around a 15 years ago and has been slipping further into the sewer with every passing year. It's not a unique experience, though; alt.guitar.amps has been a depressing graveyard since Lord Valve gave up on it or died.
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In any event, it was bound to happen. Usenet from the beginning had a problem: no easy way to post pictures (remember "begin 644? -- geez, that was out of the Ark). Usenet was on a dying curve from the day it became easy to post photographs and video elsewhere. What I find surprising, it that Google supported Usenet for so long after it stopped growing and started contracting.
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Andre Jute
"Grow or be taken over." -- Charles G Bluhdorn
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Jeff Liebermann
Dec 14, 2023, 6:42:42 PM12/14/23
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On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 14:54:12 -0800 (PST), Andre Jute
<fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>"Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
Thanks for the Greek Chorus. Time to move on or go elsewhere. A
<fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>"Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
swiftly flowing stream collects no garbage. Etc. Next is to add
Google Groups to the growing Google graveyard of 293 failed internet
experiments:
<https://killedbygoogle.com>
>In any event, it was bound to happen. Usenet from the beginning had a problem: no easy way to post pictures (remember "begin 644? -- geez, that was out of the Ark). Usenet was on a dying curve from the day it became easy to post photographs and video elsewhere. What I find surprising, it that Google supported Usenet for so long after it stopped growing and started contracting.
>Andre Jute
>"Grow or be taken over." -- Charles G Bluhdorn
was the lack of advertising revenue for Google. For most groups, any
form of advertising was considered spam and was banned. No money for
Google, no (free) service for the multitudes.
I'm also surprised Google Groups lasted this long. I suspect the next
to fall will be free YouTube videos. I've been watching the
monitization battles between the Google algorithm keepers and the
content providers. I think that might also kill the Freemium model:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemium>
It will be interesting to see if the impendent newsfeeds can pickup
the slack after Google drops the ball. I'm currently paying for text
only news via:
<https://www.supernews.com>
There are plenty of others including some that are free. For those
users currently posting from Google accounts, I'm sure there will
other services making attractive trial offers.
This begs the question if Usenet can survive without Google. I think
it can if whomever inherits the wreckage of Google Groups performs
some long delayed maintenance. It's like running a restaurant without
ever taking out the garbage. There's too much garbage and it needs to
be cleaned out. Google promised this when they bought Deja News. Not
much changed except to mangle the formatting and REMOVE useful
features. Google has provided little or no spam filtering. Most spam
is currently originating from Google. For example, in the last 4
hours, sci.electronics.design has forwarded about 250 obvious spam
messages, all originating from gmail accounts.
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AMuzi
Dec 14, 2023, 6:44:38 PM12/14/23
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Frank Krygowski
Dec 14, 2023, 10:50:54 PM12/14/23
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never made it onto Eternal September. Kunich's and Funky's, for example.
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