trek 2120 vs bianchi veloce vs lemond buenos aires advice please
Nitro M884
I am looking for a well built road bike for some trips (30-40miles) Long
Island
road terrain.The 2120 and veloce have campy veloce. the lemond is 105.
Veloce is tig cromo(97 is lug). The 2120 is carbon-butted alum with carbon fork
Lemond is cromo825 with carbon fork. I am 6 ft 185. Like the trek but heard
carbon- aluminum not so great.
The bianchi is esthetically beautiful but how are their frames?
All are in 1300-1400 range. i can get a '97 veloce in my size(57) with 8speed
campy instead of the '98 9 speed campy for 1000 . It's also a lug frame
instead
of the '98 tig Thanks....
John Everett
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>Like the trek but heard carbon- aluminum not so great.
Over the last few years I've ridden with many people who own Trek 2K series
bikes, and have never heard of a frame failure. Doesn't mean they don't
happen, just that I haven't come across it.
And yes, I know, the 2000 is all aluminum. I mean the carbon/aluminum lugged
frames.
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Al Raden
I am partial to the Bianchi. I also happen to like the '97's much better than the
'98's - so for $1000, the '97 Veloce sounds like a good deal. The Lemond has some
unique fit characteristics - make sure you understand them, and that the bike would
fit you properly. I don't know if you have a preference for Campy or Shimano, but
that would also affect your choice.
My preferences led me to the Bianchi. I like the look of the bike, the steel
construction, the Campy components, and the lugged frame. They've been in the
business for a while (112 years, last time I checked). e-mail me if you want more
info/opinions.
In reality, you probably won't go wrong with any of these bikes (I'm not sure about
the Trek - no experience). Try them and see which fits you the best.
- al
Nitro M884 wrote:
> I am looking for a well built road bike for some trips (30-40miles) Long
> Island
> road terrain.The 2120 and veloce have campy veloce. the lemond is 105.
> Veloce is tig cromo(97 is lug). The 2120 is carbon-butted alum with carbon fork
> Lemond is cromo825 with carbon fork. I am 6 ft 185. Like the trek but heard
> carbon- aluminum not so great.
Timothy Ryan Cleary
In article <199804211718...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
nitr...@aol.com (Nitro M884) wrote:
>I am looking for a well built road bike for some trips (30-40miles) Long
>Island
>road terrain.The 2120 and veloce have campy veloce. the lemond is 105.
>Veloce is tig cromo(97 is lug). The 2120 is carbon-butted alum with carbon fork
>Lemond is cromo825 with carbon fork. I am 6 ft 185. Like the trek but heard
>carbon- aluminum not so great.
>The bianchi is esthetically beautiful but how are their frames?
>All are in 1300-1400 range. i can get a '97 veloce in my size(57) with 8speed
>campy instead of the '98 9 speed campy for 1000 . It's also a lug frame
>instead
>of the '98 tig Thanks....
I have a 55 cm 1997 Buenos Aires, and am very happy with it. When
shopping for this bike, I also test road a Bianchi ('97 Eros), and found
the Lemond geometry much more comfortable. I'm your height (6'), but my
legs are on the short side (32.5" inseam). The quality of components on
the Lemond is very good (Cinelli bar and stem, Conti GP tires, Mavic rims
(OEM Reflexes)), and the frame is Reynolds 853. I believe the 98 has a
triple crankset, and, as you noted, is not 853 steel. The 97 also has a
steel fork, not carbon. So, to summarize, the Lemond has changed some
since 97, but still has a great combination of components, and is a great
buy if it fits (especially if you can find a '97 for $1000 like I did).
You can't go wrong with any of these bikes. I would buy the one that fits
the best, which should be your most important consideration, anyway.
Ryan Cleary
Cambridge, Mass.
Kw Mui
I've a Trek2100 for 4 years now without any reliability problems. I have friends
that race (hardcore competition) with that frame without any issues. But beware of
overtightening the seat post pin.
To me it's a cheaper light frame that many would appreciate in centuries. Says
much about it's comfort.
I know of people who race at the national level that have changed their OCLV's a
couple of times due to BB cracks.
Eventually, I'll go back to steel. The Ibis Spanky looks ....yum, yum...
Have fun,
KW
Dave Siegler
IMHO, the trek is a better deal for the same money.
The 98 2120 has a 9 speed triple, good clip less pedals and braze-on for a rear
rack (glueons?).
No matter what you hear, the frame is solid. I just sold my 2300, (for a lemond
zurich)
and the frame is solid and fine. I raced it for several years, and rode lots of
miles with no
issues. Others in my club have had them for many miles with no issues. Very
early on in the
production of this frame there were some issues, but that was 15 years ago. I am
6'5 @205lb.
The Lemond, and the bianchi are also wonderful bikes, I just think the 2120 is a
better buy
for the money. Fit is most important, so if you have long femurs, and a long
waist, the lemond may
be the right bike.
Dave
Steve Sloan
I have four bikes, three steel ones and the 98 Trek 2120. My commute Bike
(a lugged steel Bianchi San Remo) busted a frame so I have been commuting
on my Trek 2120 and riding it on long rides on the weekends.
I love that bike. I put well over 100 miles a week on it, 170 last week.
Some of those have been pretty hard, over broken concrete, etc.
It's a sweet ride. The Carbon frame is awsomely light, but not harsh.
I was going to replace it with a steel bike...not now...it's a keeper!
Steve Sloan
sl...@jmc.sjsu.edu
Paul Bouffleur
I have been riding the same frame design as the '98 Veloce for about a month
now, although I have Campy Record on it. The new tig welded frame rides
wonderful. I just got rid of the '97 lugged frame from Bianchi (can you
tell that I work in a bike shop?) I chose the new Bianchi over the Lemond,
which we also sell, for one reason only, I liked the fit better. This is
definately the way to go, not by asking what people on the newsgroups think.
Everyone of us has our own opinions on which bike is better. If you chose a
bike because everybody else thinks it is cool, you still have the chance
that you will not like the bike you bought. With that being said, I cast my
vote for the Veloce.
Paul Bouffleur
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JBDrifter
I'll have to echo Ryan Cleary - I too tested bianchi and Lemond, and bought a
'97 Buenos Aires for $1000. The fit is the reason - I'm 5'9', with a 29"
inseam. Found no Bianchi to fit, but a 51 Lemond fits just right. Good luck.
Wally