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Tom Nakashima

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Mar 7, 2005, 3:08:46 PM3/7/05
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I'm interested in purchasing the Stronglight Impact Crank (compact crank
50/36), but was wondering if it's compatible with the Campagnolo 10
drivetrain? Also if the taper of the Stronglight Crank will fit the square
taper of a Campagnolo 111 bb?
thanks,
-tom


eflayer2

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Mar 7, 2005, 3:23:31 PM3/7/05
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I own one of these cranks. I don't know if this will help, but I have
it mounted on a standard Shimano un72 square taper bb. I do not know
about whether or not it is 10 speed compatible.

Tom Nakashima

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Mar 7, 2005, 3:52:05 PM3/7/05
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"Tom Nakashima" <t...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote in message
news:d0ierq$jb5$1...@news.Stanford.EDU...
>
> "eflayer2" <efla...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1110227011.8...@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Thanks, how do you like the crank, the 50/36? All I been riding with is a
> 53/39 and before that the older 52/52 combination. I worked out the gear
> calculation for a 39/27 and a 36/27, and there only seems to be gear inch
> change of 3.0 or a gear ratio change of .2
> -tom
>
sorry 52/42, not 52/52.
-tom


Tom Nakashima

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Mar 7, 2005, 3:51:05 PM3/7/05
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"eflayer2" <efla...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Thanks, how do you like the crank, the 50/36? All I been riding with is a

Joselas

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Mar 7, 2005, 10:45:25 PM3/7/05
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"Tom Nakashima" <t...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote in message
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Shimano 110 bb and yes to 10 speed compatible.

IMPACT COMPACT
Length = 165 170 172.5 175 mm
Crank extractor integrated
Colors : black chainring with silver cranks
Combinaisons : 50/36 & 48/34
Preconised axle = jp 400 en lg 110 mm
INdexation CSA 9/10 speed
Weight = 630 grs

If you're looking for an alternative to 53/39 gearing I would think you
should go 48/34. For me, with a 48/12 and a 12-25 in back I can climb steep
hills all day. The only place I ever need greater than a 48-12 is on very
fast group rides, and even then it's only towards the end of the ride on a
long slight downhill where it becomes hard to keep up such a high cadence.

Qui Si Parla Campagnolo

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Mar 8, 2005, 8:45:46 AM3/8/05
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Yes it is w/o problem.

The taper is shimano-esque, which means it requires a taper that is
larger. So, the crank 'may' go on to far, bottoming before
tightening.But it may be OK-torque it on, check chainline and look to
see how far it is on.

Tom Nakashima

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Mar 8, 2005, 9:12:16 AM3/8/05
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"Qui Si Parla Campagnolo" <pe...@vecchios.com> wrote in message
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Thanks Peter,
This way my only cash flow will be for the crank, as I will use the existing
BB.
-tom


russell...@yahoo.com

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Mar 8, 2005, 10:06:21 AM3/8/05
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You're worrying about the cash flow on a $10 to $17 bottom bracket?
Nashbar sells square taper bottom brackets ranging from its own brand
for $10 all the way up to $17 for the Shimano UN72. I doubt your much
more expensive new crankset will be harmed by driving it onto a
different taper bottom bracket. But why would you even take the chance
when a pittance wouod get you the correct bottom bracket.

http://www.nashbar.com/results.cfm?subcategory=1096&category=73&browse=&storetype=&estoreid=&brand=&searchbox=&start=1&orderby=price1&pagename=

Tom Nakashima

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Mar 8, 2005, 10:20:34 AM3/8/05
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<russell...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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You got your budget, I got mine.
If Peter says my existing BB will work, then I trust him...this is what
makes the RBT site work.
I asked a specific question and Peter answered it.
If you did your homework, the Campagnolo ball bearing bb that I have will
outlast any Nashbar, or Shimano sealed bb, so you will end up in the long
run paying more.
I have a Campagnolo BB ball bearing on one of my bikes that's going on 20
years, and that's not bike that sits. Some of these sealed bb's don't even
last a year.

I also support my LBS. Nothing against Nashbar other than they clutter my
mailbox.
-tom


d...@topowest.com

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Mar 8, 2005, 2:04:09 PM3/8/05
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If you're on a budget, why not just throw this baby on there and be
happy. From http://www.theped.com/blowout.htm:

>RSX double cranks 170mm 36,46 $29.95 These cranks are OEM,
>(Original Equipment for Manufacturers), they are new and never
installed on
>bikes but they are not in the box.

I guess you will need to find a cheap 50t. Should be easy to find at
the upcoming swap meets.

dkl

bfd

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Mar 8, 2005, 3:39:50 PM3/8/05
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d states:

<If you're on a budget, why not just throw this baby on there and be

happy. From http://www.theped.com/blowout.­htm:

>RSX double cranks 170mm 36,46 $29.95 These cranks are OEM,
>(Original Equipment for Manufacturers), they are new and never
installed on
>bikes but they are not in the box. >

FYI, I was there last year and bought the LAST ONE! They really need
to update that website.

I'm trying out the crank to see whether I like a "compact" crank. So
far, I like the 36t as it helps lower the gears for climbing. I'll
probably look for a 48t big chainring as I spin out in the 46t;
although its good for rollers.

d...@topowest.com

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Mar 8, 2005, 5:14:35 PM3/8/05
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bfd wrote:
> d states:
>
> <If you're on a budget, why not just throw this baby on there and be
> happy. From http://www.theped.com/blowout.­htm:
>
> >RSX double cranks 170mm 36,46 $29.95 These cranks are OEM,
> >(Original Equipment for Manufacturers), they are new and never
> installed on
> >bikes but they are not in the box. >
>
> FYI, I was there last year and bought the LAST ONE! They really need
> to update that website.

Basterds! Well thanks for the heads-up. You saved me half of April
3rd since I guess I won't shlep up to their swapmeet now.

> I'm trying out the crank to see whether I like a "compact" crank. So
> far, I like the 36t as it helps lower the gears for climbing. I'll
> probably look for a 48t big chainring as I spin out in the 46t;
> although its good for rollers.

If you decide you don't like it I'd like to give it a try - thanks
again.

Doug

Booker C. Bense

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Mar 14, 2005, 2:44:29 PM3/14/05
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In article <d0ierq$jb5$1...@news.Stanford.EDU>,

_ Do it as percentages or speed at rpm and it will look like more
of a change[1]. Gear inches are not a very intiutive measure.
It's 6.4 mph vs 7 mph at 60rpm, or roughly 10% easier.

Personally, I like either a 50/34 or 52/36, the front shifting
is still good enough and you get a wider range of gears.

_ Booker C. Bense


[1]- http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gears/

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Andrew Karre

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Mar 14, 2005, 10:13:20 PM3/14/05
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Not to take issue with budgets at all, but those Shimano sealed
square-taper BBs are an absolute bargain. Say what you will about
Shimano, but it's great that they still sell a decent variety of very
good-quality BBs for a standard they consider out of date. Now, if they
would only bring back those marvelous 110/74 Deore cranks . . .

Andrew Karre

bfd

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Mar 14, 2005, 10:20:03 PM3/14/05
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"Andrew Karre" <andrew...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Agree, shimano un-5x and 7x are fantastic bbs. However, how much better are
those 110/74 Deore over say Sugino XD-600 110/74 triple crank, like this one
here:

http://www.yellowjersey.org/cranx2

The above crank is a fantastic deal and can be found for as low as $70!


Sheldon Brown

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Mar 14, 2005, 10:25:13 PM3/14/05
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Andrew Karre wrote:

Then there's the freewheel issue...Shimano's new design freewheel has
given new life to the obsolete thread on system. It's dirt cheap and
notably superior to all previous thread-on freewheels.

In addition to the Alpine 11-34, they have just come out with an 11-28
variant on the same wonderful body.

http://sheldonbrown.com/mega7

It is surprising that the company that made the cassette Freehub into
the de facto standard is _also_ the only company making really good
traditonal freewheels.

Sheldon "Shimano Rules!" Brown
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| can always depend upon the support of Paul. |
| --George Bernard Shaw |
+-----------------------------------------------+
Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts
Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041
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Tom Sherman

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Mar 14, 2005, 10:28:01 PM3/14/05
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Andrew Karre wrote:

Spend a little more for the Shimano bottom brackets that start with
"UN" and avoid those that start with "LP".

--
Tom Sherman - Earth (Illinois)

A Muzi

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Mar 14, 2005, 11:30:07 PM3/14/05
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> "Andrew Karre" <andrew...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1110856400....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>Not to take issue with budgets at all, but those Shimano sealed
>>square-taper BBs are an absolute bargain. Say what you will about
>>Shimano, but it's great that they still sell a decent variety of very
>>good-quality BBs for a standard they consider out of date. Now, if they
>>would only bring back those marvelous 110/74 Deore cranks . . .

bfd wrote:
> Agree, shimano un-5x and 7x are fantastic bbs. However, how much better are
> those 110/74 Deore over say Sugino XD-600 110/74 triple crank, like this one
> here:
> http://www.yellowjersey.org/cranx2
> The above crank is a fantastic deal and can be found for as low as $70!

Thanks for the plug but the $69.95 model is actually a
different crank arm:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/cranx.html

And the Tange BB sets with true replaceable sealed bearing
cartridges are less expensive than the non-serviceable
Shimano units.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

bfd

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Mar 15, 2005, 2:09:34 AM3/15/05
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I wrote:

>how much better are those 110/74 Deore over say Sugino XD-600 110/74
triple crank, like this one here:

>http://www.yellowjersey.org/cr­anx2


The above crank is a fantastic deal and can be found for as low as $70!
<

Andy replied:

<Thanks for the plug but the $69.95 model is actually a
different crank arm:

http://www.yellowjersey.org/cr­anx.html >

Can you explain the difference between the Sugino XD and the XD-600?
Looks very similar? Thank!

A Muzi

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Mar 15, 2005, 4:06:24 AM3/15/05
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bfd wrote:
>>>how much better are those 110/74 Deore over say Sugino XD-600 110/74
>>> triple crank, like this one here:
>>>http://www.yellowjersey.org/cr苔nx2

>>> The above crank is a fantastic deal and can be found for as low as $70!

(am)>


>>Thanks for the plug but the $69.95 model is actually a
>> different crank arm:

>> http://www.yellowjersey.org/cr苔nx.html >

bfd wrote:
> Can you explain the difference between the Sugino XD and the XD-600?
> Looks very similar? Thank!

Sugino says the XD600/2 designation is a different material
. Those arms are also better finished and clear anodized.
Same outer rings, same inner rings, middle is AL ramped on
the XD600/2, satin chromed steel for XD.

(That isn't clearly better either way. High mileage cyclists
seek steel middle rings usually in spite of a few grams)

And what was wrong with model names? Sugino AeroTour, Idol,
Maxy, Guines were all a bit loopy but much better than
XD600/2 IMHO.

Tom Sherman

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Mar 15, 2005, 6:28:12 AM3/15/05
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A Muzi wrote:

> ...


> And the Tange BB sets with true replaceable sealed bearing cartridges
> are less expensive than the non-serviceable Shimano units.

Are these ISO taper, JIS taper, or both?

Andrew Karre

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Mar 15, 2005, 7:07:02 AM3/15/05
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I haven't measured, but I think the Deore cranks had a lower Q factor
on the same BB (somebody will surely correct me if I'm wrong, here). My
only complaint about my Suginos is that I needed to find a 103 mm BB to
get a satisfactory chainline and Q.

Andrew

Donald Gillies

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Mar 15, 2005, 2:20:22 PM3/15/05
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A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> writes:

>And what was wrong with model names? Sugino AeroTour, Idol,
>Maxy, Guines were all a bit loopy but much better than
>XD600/2 IMHO.

Actually, "Maxy" is a great model name since "Mighty" is the high end,
"Maxy" implies big but not ultimate. If they ever had a low end it
might be called "Sugino Mini".

I have always wondered the same things about Nissan Cars. We have the
"Maxima", the "Altima", so why isn't the small one called "The Nissan
Minima. The affordable generic car!"

- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA

A Muzi

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Mar 15, 2005, 6:15:51 PM3/15/05
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> A Muzi wrote:
>> And the Tange BB sets with true replaceable sealed bearing cartridges
>> are less expensive than the non-serviceable Shimano units.

Tom Sherman wrote:
> Are these ISO taper, JIS taper, or both?

Today only available in Shimano type (JIS) start.

Tom Sherman

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Mar 15, 2005, 6:46:35 PM3/15/05
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Donald Gillies wrote:

I want a Nissan "Inflection Point".

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