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Mark Cleary

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May 31, 2023, 12:32:49 PM5/31/23
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I have a small Leyzine mini pumps does a great job. I put it on the seat tube going down where a water bottle cage could go. Well I alternate bikes so naturally I should put the pump on the bike I am riding. But do I?

Yesterdays 62 mile ride I got home and notice I forgot the put pump on my bike as I had switched. I have to switch the garmin mount so you would think I automatically would just go to the pump. No

Today I took off again and at about 22 miles realized no pump again. Ignorance is bliss. I do have a CO2 cartridge i the saddle pack but I am really against CO2 and it fails to work in every situation. Well so far the past 2 days no flats and my ride today was 56 miles. ''

I am living on the edge possible would be worth the $45 to buy another pump but my cheapskate sense of cycling says just have one and move it all the time. Also while I am at it, I am one in the camp that says good rolling tires trump getting any of those tires and set ups that are flat resistant. If you have a flat just deal with it. Not enough to cause poor tire choice and setup.
Deacon Mark

Roger Meriman

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May 31, 2023, 1:11:25 PM5/31/23
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I have pump and Allen keys plus tube in saddle bag on all my bikes, as just
makes life somewhat less of faff!

Roger Merriman

Tom Kunich

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May 31, 2023, 1:15:20 PM5/31/23
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What, you have more than one bike? Krygowski calls that "churning" and believes you to be a fool.

Lou Holtman

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May 31, 2023, 1:29:42 PM5/31/23
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All my bikes have all the parts to deal with a flat, no switching between bikes. I settled for CO2 cartriges and inflaters. All small enough to put in inna saddle bag togethers with the spare tubes.


Lou

Frank Krygowski

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May 31, 2023, 1:52:28 PM5/31/23
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On 5/31/2023 12:32 PM, Mark Cleary wrote:
> I have a small Leyzine mini pumps does a great job. I put it on the seat tube going down where a water bottle cage could go. Well I alternate bikes so naturally I should put the pump on the bike I am riding. But do I?
>
> Yesterdays 62 mile ride I got home and notice I forgot the put pump on my bike as I had switched. I have to switch the garmin mount so you would think I automatically would just go to the pump. No
>
> Today I took off again and at about 22 miles realized no pump again. Ignorance is bliss. I do have a CO2 cartridge i the saddle pack but I am really against CO2 and it fails to work in every situation. Well so far the past 2 days no flats and my ride today was 56 miles. ''
>
> I am living on the edge possible would be worth the $45 to buy another pump but my cheapskate sense of cycling says just have one and move it all the time.

I've got five bikes that I ride regularly, plus another two that are
seldom ridden. All have their own individual pump, patch kit, tube and
minimal tools. All but the seldom used mountain bike also have their own
lighting system. Most also have a cycling cap and a mirror on board. I
like to have things ready to go.

--
- Frank Krygowski

Roger Meriman

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May 31, 2023, 2:20:27 PM5/31/23
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I have rear lights permanently on two of my 3 bikes. And exposure lights
mount on the bars of all 3 as I have 3 of their lights one older road
focused, one for MTB/Gravel riding and one that’s supposed to be for a
helmet light but I use it as daylight running light + get me home if It’s
later ie darker than expected.

MTB very rarely is used after dark, but has the option to do so, If I chose
too.

Roger Merriman

funkma...@hotmail.com

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May 31, 2023, 2:56:25 PM5/31/23
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Same here.

pH

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May 31, 2023, 10:32:39 PM5/31/23
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Heavens to Sheldon...that's a lot of cycles.

Would it be possible for you to enumerate them all, or if that's too much
trouble, just list them?

I have my old touring Cannondale, an old Specialized Rock Combo (hybrid at
the time) and my Easy Racer.

Vehicle shuffling has left me w/o a means to transport my Easy Racer down
the hill for the time being.

pH in Aptos

Catrike Rider

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Jun 1, 2023, 4:41:56 AM6/1/23
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On Thu, 1 Jun 2023 02:32:35 -0000 (UTC), pH <wNOS...@gmail.org>
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Collecting things tends to make life too complicated. I don't have to
decide which bike to ride since I only have one.

Roger Meriman

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Jun 1, 2023, 5:26:24 AM6/1/23
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I have 3 which span the types of riding I do, so old MTB is my commute
bike, used to use it more utility but well everything is walkable or bus
journey away so stopped.

I have a newer MTB full suspension trail that is a lovely bit of kit that I
don’t use enough, but that gets used on big days out off road so riding on
the ridgeway or similar.

And the Gravel bike that does mixed surfaced rides, which I can do from my
house and if away as it’s not as huge as the MTB.

Last weekend I explored some of the london Urban climbs plus some of North
London before dropping down to the festival like central london Freeride
which I looped though before home.

I have no need or desire for any more such as road bike the gravel bike is
as quick enough at least for me.

And equally I don’t need a quiver of MTB for the riding I do or E-MTB
though if I lived in wales I’d probably consider it, though probably retire
the MTB if I did.

Roger Merriman

Catrike Rider

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Jun 1, 2023, 6:13:04 AM6/1/23
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On Thu, 01 Jun 2023 09:26:21 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
wrote:
I only do one kind of riding. If I had more than one that worked for
my kind of rides, I'd quickly pick my favorite and never use the
others.

Frank Krygowski

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Jun 1, 2023, 11:39:17 AM6/1/23
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On 5/31/2023 10:32 PM, pH wrote:
> On 2023-05-31, Frank Krygowski <frkr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> On 5/31/2023 12:32 PM, Mark Cleary wrote:
>>>
>> I've got five bikes that I ride regularly, plus another two that are
>> seldom ridden. All have their own individual pump, patch kit, tube and
>> minimal tools. All but the seldom used mountain bike also have their own
>> lighting system. Most also have a cycling cap and a mirror on board. I
>> like to have things ready to go.
>>
>
> Heavens to Sheldon...that's a lot of cycles.
>
> Would it be possible for you to enumerate them all, or if that's too much
> trouble, just list them?

Most miles and rides happen on my touring bike or on our tandem.

My first "good bike," a 50 year old "sport touring ten speed" became my
commuting bike and is now my utility bike and favorite nighttime bike.
It has the most carrying capacity and best lighting system.

Some years ago I finally had time to build up a high end Reynolds 531
frame I bought for $7 in a surplus shop, due to a small dent. That's an
upright handlebar 3 speed with front Dynohub and steel basket, for quick
trips around the village.

Our folding bikes have traveled far with us. They've flown in their
cases to distant states and overseas. They travel in the back of the car
on vacations, to visits with extended family, etc.

My wife also has three bikes, and there are more around the house for
very occasional use, for others to borrow, etc.

--
- Frank Krygowski

pH

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Jun 1, 2023, 1:18:20 PM6/1/23
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That has its benefits, but also a drawback in the event of a catastrophic
failure.

eg: I once had my front hub fail in that a whole section and two adjacent
spokes broke out.

One my (Specialized) axle broke giving me a tumble...I'm sure I'd have
broken something at this age, but that was my 'bouce' years.

I once came rushing out to catch a final at college to find my front wheel
had been stolen (quick release). Of course, two bikes in college would not
really have been workable.

pH in Aptos

pH

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Jun 1, 2023, 1:23:18 PM6/1/23
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Very cool. Lucky your wife is on board w/ the bike lifestyle, too.

I kind of expected Joy Beeson to chime in...I have not seena post from her
in a while....you out there, Joy?

pH

Catrike Rider

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On Thu, 1 Jun 2023 17:18:17 -0000 (UTC), pH <wNOS...@gmail.org>
I do have spare parts. I can fix most everything.

funkma...@hotmail.com

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Jun 1, 2023, 3:04:47 PM6/1/23
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5?
pfffttt....piker!

ready to ride
- road
'84 Basso GAP
'85 Ross (Kellogg) Signature
'90 Merlin Road (Almost ready).
'10 Pinarello knock off TT
'06 Cube Aerium
'05 Scott CR1
'99 Giant Team TCR
- CX
'96 Bontrager CX
'05 Fort
- mountain
'01 Giant XTC SE2
'16 C'dale Habit 3
'00 Independent Fabrications (IF) Custome Deluxe Ti
'97 Pro-Flex K2 3000
- tandem
'95 KHS Tandemania Sport

not ready to ride
'94 Peter Mooney Road

The Aerium is my commuter
The CR1 is my race bike
The Fort is my CX race bike
I switch back and forth between the Habit and the IF depending on my mood and the destination.
The Ross is ridden on a regular basis
I use the TT at our local TT a few times a year
We get out on the Tandem a few times a year
The rest collect dust on the hooks for the most part.

Radey Shouman

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Jun 1, 2023, 8:06:54 PM6/1/23
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At some point one has to fall back on shank's bike.

Damn those thieves.

I once locked up both wheels carefully, only to have some sticky
fingered person steal the quick release axle. It was hard by my old
junior high school, so I blame the overpowering effects of puberty. In
any event I had to walk home.

Joy Beeson

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Jun 5, 2023, 9:21:15 PM6/5/23
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On Thu, 1 Jun 2023 17:23:15 -0000 (UTC), pH <wNOS...@gmail.org>
wrote:

> I kind of expected Joy Beeson to chime in...I have not seena post from her
> in a while....you out there, Joy?

A change in my schedule cut an hour cut out of my usenet-reading time,
to add it to sewing and cycling time. I should be brushing my teeth
right now.

Also I have only two bikes -- the Fuji Gran Tourer, aka "my real
bike", and a Trek Pure aka "my wheelchair bike".

I've been riding the latter instead of walking for weeks, but the
prednisolone seems to be putting an end to that.


Saturday, 3 June 2023

I may be posting more often this week.

I came back from today's ride with a broken spoke in my back wheel. I
probably broke it yesterday; I noticed a faint squeak right from the
start of today's ride. I kept spinning the wheel and checking the
clearance of the fender stays and brake, but never thought of counting
the spokes, so it was embarrassing when the mechanic spotted it the
instant the bike was up on the rack. (I took my kale, books, etc. out
of the panniers first.)

The ride was cut off at the end, but I put in some extra distance at
the beginning. I bought a yogurt smoothie (mango lassi) at the
farmer's market just down the street at the new ice rink, which the
folks who railroaded it into existance are trying very hard to
justify. One was expected to drink the whole pint on the spot, so the
lid wasn't tight enough to carry around all day, so I took it home.
[Sunday: we still have half of it left.]

The squeak got louder and louder, and by the time I left Reinholt's On
the Square (where I picked up a water bottle I had mislaid while
buying a bed yesterday)it was tangible while I was walking. I pushed
the bike through the courthouse market instead of parking against the
former bank (now city building) as I usually do.

It also sped my departure that I'd counted on making a pit stop at the
courthouse, which isn't open on weekends. I set out to rush straight
to Kroger, using Main Street as far as Detroit, and spotted the
library. Pit stop, refill bottle, buy two Classic Illustrated
knock-offs at the Friends of the Library book sale. Much nicer being
recognized by the staff at a book sale than at the various medical
places I've been going the last few months. As soon as Dave healed up
enough to fend for himself, he had to start fending for me. But
treatment for sciatica takes only six days, praise the Lord.

My quads are sore this evening, but because I forgot the consequences
of not walking for four weeks. (Took me a while to conclude that it
was time for another course of Methylprednisolone, then I felt silly
accepting an emergency appointment after delaying so long, not to
mention that I didn't feel up to dressing that fast, and the next
regular appointment was a week off.)

I told the Trailhouse guys that I would come back on the flatfoot for
my stuff, and they showed me an out-of-the-way niche to leave it in,
and asked whether I could walk that far. I told them that I did it
every Sunday, but didn't mention that I hadn't done it lately.

I kept my back straight and my head up and walked fast, and the
sciatica didn't bug me, but I woke up from my nap with sore muscles.

After nine -- time to log off; I really *must* brush my teeth tonight.


Sunday, 4 June 2023

Got to bed early, woke up thinking that for once I wouldn't have to
rush to get to church almost in time, but looked into the mirror and
just couldn't face shaving, washing up, putting on sunscreen, and
finding a short-sleeved dress in the closet.

So I had a nap after breakfast and then took my usual nap after lunch.

Luckily, spouse wanted spaghetti and meatballs for supper. Wasn't
good; I cooked it by the usual rules and it wasn't the usual
spaghetti. We've got more meatballs and spaghetti, but no more sauce.

I think I've got an intestinal bug. Didn't even look at my
desperately-needed new jersey today. I'm making it of quilting cotton
for want of decent linen.


Monday, 5 June 2023

Very busy day. Luckily, I was over whatever I had on Sunday. I spent
most of the day washing bedclothes. Almost none of it was spent
watching the delivery of the bed -- those guys are *good*. And they
re-made the bed after changing out the box springs -- a *lot* faster
than I'd made it in the first place, but then they knew how to stand a
mattress on edge without dislodging the mattress pad and bottom sheet.
Perhaps *that* is why the modern mattress is more than three times as
thick as a mattress needs to be; standing on edge is the only thing it
does better. (They changed the box springs for "low profile" springs
four inches thinner, so I wouldn't need a laddert to get into bed.)

But I've got both the time and thinkum to post a message tonight. I
even brought my diary up to date and took a few token stitches in my
new summer jersey.

But the flutes just tweeted -- time to start getting ready for bed.

Had to go into the kitchen to take my blood pressure, so I made my
bedtime snack to eat at the computer. Now I have until ten O'clock to
read my funnies.

--
Joy Beeson, U.S.A., mostly central Hoosier,
some Northern Indiana, Upstate New York, Florida, and Hawaii
joy beeson at centurylink dot net http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/
The above message is a Usenet post.


pH

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On 2023-06-06, Joy Beeson <jbe...@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Jun 2023 17:23:15 -0000 (UTC), pH <wNOS...@gmail.org>
> wrote:
>
>> I kind of expected Joy Beeson to chime in...I have not seena post from her
>> in a while....you out there, Joy?
>
> A change in my schedule cut an hour cut out of my usenet-reading time,
> to add it to sewing and cycling time. I should be brushing my teeth
> right now.
>
> Also I have only two bikes -- the Fuji Gran Tourer, aka "my real
> bike", and a Trek Pure aka "my wheelchair bike".
>
> I've been riding the latter instead of walking for weeks, but the
> prednisolone seems to be putting an end to that.

<snip>

Thanks for the update, Joy. Good to hear from you again although it sounds
like some medical issues are rearing their ugly head.

A friend's wife is suffering from sciatica and it's a miserable thing.

I had it one morning and it sent me to the Dr. thinking I had blood clots
and my leg was falling off....Nope, "sciatica", he said. I can't imagine
enduring that level of pain routinely. Hope you're back to normal soon.

pH

Ted Heise

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Jun 6, 2023, 9:44:42 AM6/6/23
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On Tue, 6 Jun 2023 05:27:22 -0000 (UTC),
+1 to everything pH said.

--
Ted Heise <the...@panix.com> West Lafayette, IN, USA

AMuzi

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Jun 6, 2023, 10:46:15 AM6/6/23
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Thnaks I enjoy your ride reports!

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


Tom Kunich

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Jun 6, 2023, 10:53:32 AM6/6/23
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Joy is always a Joy and I hope she can control her health problems and ride and post of it here for the rest of her life.

Joy Beeson

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On Tue, 6 Jun 2023 05:27:22 -0000 (UTC), pH <wNOS...@gmail.org>
wrote:

> I can't imagine
> enduring that level of pain routinely.

I start yelling before it gets that bad. But I dithered this time
until I needed oxycodone to sleep. Most of the time exercises at
night (oops. Time out: I forgot the wall push.) (Hardly a minute
for that; total exercise takes about a quarter hour, if I don't lose
my focus and lie there with my mind wandering.)

Most of the time stretching exercises and not doing stupid things such
as forgetting to lower the ironing board and sit in my rolling chair
to press all those jersey parts keeps it in check, and I hardly ever
take so much as an aspirin.

Standing didn't hurt -- I *did* keep trotting into the parlor to fetch
more jersey parts -- but I should ration my standing-still time.

I hope to get the card tables out of the parlor tomorrow -- and put
the paper-recycling bin in. It's well past overflowing, but I get
bored with sorting trash so quickly that the clutter can persist for
days, so I don't want to start when the parlor is already cluttered.


--
Joy Beeson

Ted Heise

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On Tue, 06 Jun 2023 22:51:37 -0400,
Joy Beeson <jbe...@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Jun 2023 05:27:22 -0000 (UTC), pH <wNOS...@gmail.org>
> wrote:
>
> > I can't imagine
> > enduring that level of pain routinely.
>
> I start yelling before it gets that bad. But I dithered this
> time until I needed oxycodone to sleep. Most of the time
> exercises at night (oops. Time out: I forgot the wall push.)
> (Hardly a minute for that; total exercise takes about a quarter
> hour, if I don't lose my focus and lie there with my mind
> wandering.)
>
> Most of the time stretching exercises and not doing stupid
> things such as forgetting to lower the ironing board and sit in
> my rolling chair to press all those jersey parts keeps it in
> check, and I hardly ever take so much as an aspirin.

Sounds like a very pragmatic way of dealing with things. Good
deal, my hat's off to you!

I'm increasingly struck by the toll aging takes on physical well
being. In my late 60s, I'm not all that old--yet when I miss my
PT routine (lower back/hips and both shoulders) things get
decidedly uncomfortable. Sometimes I use ibuprofen to cope, but
hate to get too heavy into that. I'd rather not have to deal with
hemodialysis.

Tom Kunich

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Jun 7, 2023, 12:09:42 PM6/7/23
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Joy, be extremely careful of oxycodone because that is the source or nearly every military veteran drug addict. ONLY use it when there is no other way. As soon as the warning signs of addiction started showing, I changed to aspirin which worked just about as well anyway.

Joy Beeson

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On Tue, 06 Jun 2023 22:51:37 -0400, Joy Beeson
<jbe...@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:

> I hope to get the card tables out of the parlor tomorrow

I added two snaps to a walker bag instead, but did hem two sleeve
facings and a belt casing. (The belt supports my back pockets.)

Thursday, 8 June 2023

And today I sewed the elastic casing in the back pocket. Have one
more row of machine stitching before I can put in the elastic and
divide it into three pockets.

Started to sew a snap on the phone pocket, but it was time to make
jambalaya when I'd assembled the tools and notions.

In the morning, we drove to Martins to pick up our curbside order.
Forgot milk; I hope my bike is ready tommorrow.

--
joy beeson at centurylink dot net
http://wlweather.net/PAGESEW/

Joy Beeson

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On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:09:40 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Joy, be extremely careful of oxycodone because that is the source or nearly every military veteran drug addict. ONLY use it when there is no other way. As soon as the warning signs of addiction started showing, I changed to aspirin which worked just about as well anyway.


When I mentioned oxycodone to my doctor, his only question was whether
I had enough. (I really must get around to counting the pills.)

I suspect that a tablespoon of paregoric would have done at least as
well, but paregoric has been criminalized.

The following incident happened at the Colfax place, so it must have
been a *long* time ago. Bereft of other medication, I decided to
drink a shot of whiskey every half hour until I was feeling no pain.

The alcohol didn't reduce the pain in the slightest -- but after the
third shot, I thought pain was funny.

It was also at the Colfax place that I took acetominophen for the same
pain. Pretty soon I wanted the pain back to take my mind off how
lousy I felt. This was my first dose of acetominophen, so I've been
extremely reluctant to take it ever since even though in hindsight,
the pain *had* been covering up how lousy I felt. But aspirin and
paregoric also relieve the lousy. 'Course paregoric means no heavy
machinery, but so does extreme agony.

Now that I'm old, it's at bedtime that I need painkiller, and I can't
take aspirin after ten o'clock. I had a bleeding ulcer once, so I
can't take aspirin without food, and because I take levothyroxin at
two in the morning, I can't eat after ten.

But I stopped needing medication to sleep almost at once after
starting the methylprednisolone.

Previous course took five months to wear off. I'd expected more.

Last December's course was the first time I wrote it down where I
couldn't lose track, so I'm not sure how long previous rounds of
steroid lasted.

Ted Heise

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On Thu, 08 Jun 2023 23:04:34 -0400,
Joy Beeson <jbe...@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:09:40 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Joy, be extremely careful of oxycodone because that is the
> > source or nearly every military veteran drug addict. ONLY use
> > it when there is no other way. As soon as the warning signs of
> > addiction started showing, I changed to aspirin which worked
> > just about as well anyway.
>
> When I mentioned oxycodone to my doctor, his only question was
> whether I had enough. (I really must get around to counting
> the pills.)

I agree with Tom, but it sounds as if you have things well in
hand.

ISTM that as we age, the calculus changes. Quality of life slips,
regardless of whatever we may do to care for ourselves, and the
consequences of addiction diminish. This is most evident as we
near end of life, especially if we transition into palliative
care.


> I suspect that a tablespoon of paregoric would have done at
> least as well, but paregoric has been criminalized.

I had a friend who found immense relief from Vioxx, and nothing
else seemed to work. When it was taken off the market she was
left with no options. In her case, she was well aware of the
risks, but was willing to accept them for the improved QoL the
drug gave her. I can't say how much of the market withdrawal was
FDA pressure and how much was liability exposure, but it's a shame
when folks can't make their own risk:benefit decisions in things
like this.


> The following incident happened at the Colfax place, so it must
> have been a *long* time ago. Bereft of other medication, I
> decided to drink a shot of whiskey every half hour until I was
> feeling no pain.
>
> The alcohol didn't reduce the pain in the slightest -- but
> after the third shot, I thought pain was funny.

Heh. I know pretty much what you mean, but from a slightly
different perspective. I drank abusively for many years, and the
last several were totally bereft of any but the most fleeting
relief.


> Now that I'm old, it's at bedtime that I need painkiller, and I
> can't take aspirin after ten o'clock. I had a bleeding ulcer
> once, so I can't take aspirin without food, and because I take
> levothyroxin at two in the morning, I can't eat after ten.

Ugh. Sounds like a tough situation. For me, neither aspirin nor
acetaminophen do much of anything to reduce pain. On the other
hand, I've found ibuprofen to be very effective. I do try to
limit it, because I really don't want to end up needing dialysis.

I've also had upper GI trouble with meds, but no bleeding that I
know of. The last year or so, my hemoglobin has trended below
normal (in part due to regular blood donation), so iron
supplements have been advised. They don't sit well, sometimes
even if I take them exactly with a meal.


> But I stopped needing medication to sleep almost at once after
> starting the methylprednisolone.
>
> Previous course took five months to wear off. I'd expected
> more.
>
> Last December's course was the first time I wrote it down where
> I couldn't lose track, so I'm not sure how long previous rounds
> of steroid lasted.

Ugh again. My wife's had to take prednisone a couple of times,
and hates it. She finds it plays hell with her equanimity, and
says she feels like a Balrog when on it. On the other hand, it
has been *very* effective at relieving her symptoms.

AMuzi

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On 6/8/2023 9:35 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Jun 2023 22:51:37 -0400, Joy Beeson
> <jbe...@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
>
>> I hope to get the card tables out of the parlor tomorrow
>
> I added two snaps to a walker bag instead, but did hem two sleeve
> facings and a belt casing. (The belt supports my back pockets.)
>
> Thursday, 8 June 2023
>
> And today I sewed the elastic casing in the back pocket. Have one
> more row of machine stitching before I can put in the elastic and
> divide it into three pockets.
>
> Started to sew a snap on the phone pocket, but it was time to make
> jambalaya when I'd assembled the tools and notions.
>
> In the morning, we drove to Martins to pick up our curbside order.
> Forgot milk; I hope my bike is ready tommorrow.
>

This time of year I live that life. Sewing, auto repairs, my
own bike all get started and stopped several times per project.
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