Tommy's Dream Date

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

I was going to re-hack tommy's email and send this message to everyone in his address list then make sure he got put on every left wing mailing list I could find, but apparently the FBI has placed and anti-hacking bot on his account. Oh, and Agent Lewis Erskine called me to tell me to stop picking on poor tommy ("C'mon Funky, give the poor boob a break, he's brain damaged, dontchaknow").

But I never liked Lewis since that incident between him, Evita Peron, and that poo llama, so fuck him, I'm making the post here. Besides, I'm sure tommy will like it, at least get as much of a laugh as he did when first saw it, at the very least it'll make his day.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/20/us/colorado-springs-shooting-gay-nightclub/index.html

And yes, tommy will be rather gleeful at that, After all, he famously wrote "Magazines available up to 30 rounds for visiting people like Flunky and all of his close friends at the gay bath houses. "

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/QQ3GbLKM-Zg/m/fKwJYD4BBQAJ

(or, gee kitty, do you think I hacked into the google servers and edited that post of tommy's?....hmmmm)

[AMuzi]

I thought that after ph's well considered comments we were
off firearms at least for Advent.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

[Frank Krygowski]

Good idea. Let's not mention the shooter's choice of weapon.

--
- Frank Krygowski

[Catrike Rider]

Like the left leaning media doesn't report the numbers of black on
black shootings in Democrat run cities... mostly done with handguns.

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

However (responding to everyone) this discussion has nothing to do with firearms, other than one was used for this. These murders could just as well have been committed with a molotov cocktail and it wouldn't affect the point that kunich explicitly approves of such actions, as is evident* by his statement "Magazines available up to 30 rounds for visiting people like Flunky and all of his close friends at the gay bath houses. "

*'evident', such that the claim is demonstrated by evidence (tom did in fact write that).

[John B.]

The numbers are freely available. The FBI publishes these figures and
they are available on the Web for all to see.

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Cheers,

John B.

[Catrike Rider]

On Wed, 23 Nov 2022 05:00:20 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>
wrote:

..and yet you won't see the leftist loons, politicians, and media
addressing them. Instead they whimper and whine about guns that are
used in far fewer cases.


Actually, the FBI has recently changed their reportage and now that
data is much harder to find.

Wonder why....

[Tom Kunich]

To no one's surprise, Flunky could teach stupid to a rock.

[Tom Kunich]

Why do you suppose the Slime Stream Media aren't telling people that shooter was a queer or some poor sod that the queers had their way with? The idea that people start shooting for nothing is why Krygowski was a teacher. He doesn't have the mental capacity to know that people need a LOT of reason to do a thing like that.

[John B.]

On Tue, 22 Nov 2022 17:36:32 -0500, Catrike Rider

Harder to find? Or too dumb to look?
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls

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Cheers,

John B.

[Tom Kunich]

There's another shocker, Slocumb doesn't know what he's talking about!

[Catrike Rider]

On Wed, 23 Nov 2022 05:53:21 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>

Did you not notice the year?

Try finding those tables for 2021.

[AMuzi]

That's actually a complex issue at he moment:

https://www.pumphreylawfirm.com/blog/new-changes-to-fbi-crime-data-how-to-understand-the-2021-report/

https://www.npr.org/2022/10/05/1127047811/the-fbis-new-crime-report-is-in-but-its-incomplete

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

IT isn't a left-wing conspiracy, dummy. It's a new system that the FBI is using and a significant number of local LEOs haven't adopted yet.

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 5:36:35 PM UTC-5, Catrike Rider wrote:
>
> ..and yet you won't see the leftist loons, politicians, and media
> addressing them. Instead they whimper and whine about guns that are
> used in far fewer cases.
>

And as usual, you're wrong

https://abcnews.go.com/US/black-black-crime-loaded-controversial-phrase-heard-amid/story?id=72051613

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/black-on-black-crime-whos-the-real-enemy-black-america/ar-AA12mCYX

https://www.theroot.com/why-we-never-talk-about-black-on-black-crime-an-answer-1819092337

This is from the first page of a "black-on-black crime" google search. Stop being a tommy.

Of course, none of this has to do with the subject of this discussion.

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

To no one's surprise, a rock has more learning potential than you.

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 5:48:50 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> Why do you suppose the Slime Stream Media aren't telling people that shooter was a queer or some poor sod that the queers had their way with?

Because he was neither. What's wrong tommy, you now have a hero that took up your call to action - Doesn't that make you proud?

> The idea that people start shooting for nothing is why Krygowski was a teacher.

Which is sort of like saying "campy makes special non-stretch shifter cables so tommy's drivers license was revoked"

> He doesn't have the mental capacity to know that people need a LOT of reason to do a thing like that.

Not according to you: "Magazines available up to 30 rounds for visiting people like Flunky and all of his close friends at the gay bath houses. " - tom kunich

[Catrike Rider]

The old system worked fine up through 2019, but it shows crime data
that we're no longer supposed to see, so it had to be changed.

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

Dear _gawd_ you're brainwashed. That isn't even close to true.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/understanding-fbis-2021-crime-data

"More recently, the FBI and reporting agencies began using the National Incident Based Reporting System. This system tracks information in much greater detail than the Summary Reporting System and covers many additional types of crimes. The National Incident Based Reporting System also abandons the hierarchy rule, allowing law enforcement to report multiple offenses in a single incident. Consider a hypothetical robbery where the victim, injured in the attack, dies of his injuries. Under the Summary Reporting System, this incident would be recorded solely as a murder — the robbery would vanish from the FBI’s data. Under the National Incident Based Reporting System, both the robbery and murder would be counted along with considerable details about both offenses."

I'll help you out since your mother isn't here to do your homework. The takeaway is this:
"This system tracks information in much greater detail than the Summary Reporting System and covers many additional types of crimes."

The point of changing the system is the exact opposite of what the right wing echo chambers you listen too are claiming - the point is more data for better granularity.

I'm no longer astounded at your inability to seek information beyond what you handlers spoon-feed you.

John B wrote:
> >> >Harder to find? Or too dumb to look?

Definitely the latter.

[Catrike Rider]

On Wed, 23 Nov 2022 04:53:04 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"

And yet this "better" information, as well as the previously reported
*not* "better" information has been missing ever since the 2019 report
was published.

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

Try doing a little research to find out why, dummy. It's already been discussed here, and it's widely available if you have any interest in finding things out for yourself rather than parroting right-wing "news".

FFS, how the hell do you even manage to put your pants on every day....

[Catrike Rider]

On Wed, 23 Nov 2022 05:18:12 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"

I now why, Dummy. It's because the current administration doesn't want
the people to know the crime stats.

> It's already been discussed here, and it's widely available if you have any interest in finding things out for yourself rather than parroting right-wing "news".

If the type of data that was in the 2019 report was "widely
available," Junior, it'd be out there, and it isn't. What they have
instead is individual bits of data in PDF form, which makes finding
and reporting that data far more difficult.

For instance, here's the "offfender" PDF for "All Violent Crime
Offender vs. Victim Demographics."

Note that the title above is not part of the download....
**********************************************
key value
Black or African American 335507
White 328817
Unknown 74048
American Indian or Alaska Native 11984
Asian 6278
Native Hawaiian 0
**********************************************

https://crime-data-explorer.app.cloud.gov/pages/explorer/crime/crime-trend

Notice that the PDF itself doesn't even say what the data is about and
copying the data off the website is even worse.

>FFS, how the hell do you even manage to put your pants on every day....

I seriously doubt that the tables from the 2019 and earlier reports
will ever again be published.

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

Nope, try again.

> > It's already been discussed here, and it's widely available if you have any interest in finding things out for yourself rather than parroting right-wing "news".
> If the type of data that was in the 2019 report was "widely
> available," Junior, it'd be out there, and it isn't.

More poor reading comprehension on display - The 'why' wouldn't be in the raw data. It's cleverly hidden in plain sight in the previously posted links which actually discuss why the data is lacking.

> What they have
> instead is individual bits of data in PDF form, which makes finding
> and reporting that data far more difficult.
>
> For instance, here's the "offfender" PDF for "All Violent Crime
> Offender vs. Victim Demographics."
>
> Note that the title above is not part of the download....
> **********************************************
> key value
> Black or African American 335507
> White 328817
> Unknown 74048
> American Indian or Alaska Native 11984
> Asian 6278
> Native Hawaiian 0
> **********************************************
>
> https://crime-data-explorer.app.cloud.gov/pages/explorer/crime/crime-trend
>
> Notice that the PDF itself doesn't even say what the data is about and
> copying the data off the website is even worse.
> >FFS, how the hell do you even manage to put your pants on every day....
> I seriously doubt that the tables from the 2019 and earlier reports
> will ever again be published.

Why the hell would they do that?

Still unimpressed with your comprehension.

[Tom Kunich]

The government tis trying to hide everything these days. NATIONAL DEBT is 110.8% of the GNP and the GNP is FALLING like a rock. On top of this, we are paying 14% of our income to state and local governments. In the meantime people like Flunky are trying their darndest to assist in the downfall of the country in which they were born because we don't like queers. There must be a connection there somewhere don't you think?

[Frank Krygowski]

On 11/23/2022 9:59 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 9:23:38 AM UTC-5, Catrike Rider wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Nov 2022 05:18:12 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 8:10:38 AM UTC-5, Catrike Rider wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 23 Nov 2022 04:53:04 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>>>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm no longer astounded at your inability to seek information beyond what you handlers spoon-feed you.
>>>>>
>>>>> John B wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Harder to find? Or too dumb to look?
>>>>>
>>>>> Definitely the latter.
>>>>>
>>>> And yet this "better" information, as well as the previously reported
>>>> *not* "better" information has been missing ever since the 2019 report
>>>> was published.
>>>
>>> Try doing a little research to find out why, dummy.

>> I now [sic] why, Dummy. It's because the current administration doesn't want

>> the people to know the crime stats.

Yet again, I'm astonished at the fear and paranoia emanating from the
right: "Omigod, there is MUCH MORE crime happening than the government
lets us know! The ONLY way we can have a chance is to pack a gun
everywhere we go!"

Wimps and cowards.

--
- Frank Krygowski

[Catrike Rider]

There's plenty of ways to find out about the crime, just not in ways
that can be used to shove on the Leftists' faces.

>The ONLY way we can have a chance is to pack a gun
>everywhere we go!"

Not everywhere, but they're advisable wherever one might expect to be
assaulted or robbed... for those of us who are not afraid of the guns
themselves.

>Wimps and cowards.

Yes, liberals are, but they're always good for a few laughs..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JP9HuDamHc

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 10:31:11 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> The government tis trying to hide everything these days. NATIONAL DEBT is 110.8% of the GNP and the GNP is FALLING like a rock.

1) The US hasn't used GNP as an economic metric since 1991. The correct metric is GDP.
2) the national debt is is over 700% of GDP https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/united-states/total-debt--of-gdp

Of course we shouldn't expect someone who thinks that the Great Recession started under obama to have the first clue about the relationships of debt, deficit, GNP, and GNI.

> On top of this, we are paying 14% of our income to state and local governments.

No, you're not. You have no appreciable income over social security. Your tax burden in CA is likely ~4% (https://taxfoundation.org/publications/state-individual-income-tax-rates-and-brackets/#Current).
13.8% s the highest bracket, for incomes over a million.

> In the meantime people like Flunky are trying their darndest to assist in the downfall of the country in which they were born because we don't like queers.

Sure thing sparky, I want to destroy America because you're a homophobe.

> There must be a connection there somewhere don't you think?

Only in your feeble mind.

Back to the topic - Aren't you ecstatic that someone followed your marching orders "Magazines available up to 30 rounds for visiting people like Flunky and all of his close friends at the gay bath houses. " ?

[Tom Kunich]

Biden liked little children rubbing his bare legs. You know what that means. In a prison he would be killed for the pedophile he is.

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 10:31:11 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 4:03:19 AM UTC-8, Catrike Rider wrote:
> > On Wed, 23 Nov 2022 02:52:22 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> > <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 6:00:10 PM UTC-5, Catrike Rider wrote:
> > >> On Wed, 23 Nov 2022 05:53:21 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >Harder to find? Or too dumb to look?
> > >> >https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls
> > >> >https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls
> > >> Did you not notice the year?
> > >>
> > >> Try finding those tables for 2021.
> > >
> > >IT isn't a left-wing conspiracy, dummy. It's a new system that the FBI is using and a significant number of local LEOs haven't adopted yet.
> > The old system worked fine up through 2019, but it shows crime data
> > that we're no longer supposed to see, so it had to be changed.
> The government tis trying to hide everything these days. NATIONAL DEBT is 110.8% of the GNP and the GNP is FALLING like a rock.

I almost forgot - both GDP and GNP increased by over 9% from '20 to '21 -

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/gnp-gross-national-product
https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/gdp-gross-domestic-product

while both GDP and GNP remained relative flat for each quarter of 2022

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gross-national-product
https://www.wsj.com/articles/us-gdp-economic-growth-third-quarter-2022-11666830253


Shut the fuck up tommy

[John B.]

"The idea that people start shooting for nothing"???

Tell us more, Tommy. Why did the bloke go into a school in Texas and
start shooting kids? And the latest, a Walmart Manager walked into
the store Break Room and shot several of his employees and then
himself.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/11/23/less-than-10-dead-after-shooting-at-walmart-store-in-virginia

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Cheers,

John B.

[John B.]

I had previously posted the information:
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-2.xls
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls

Or to put it another way... "Tommy, get your head out of your arse".
--
Cheers,

John B.

[Catrike Rider]

On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 06:13:10 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>

You posted data from 2019.. there are similar tables all the way back
20 1995.. but suddenly, after Biden came to the White House, those
tables are no longer available...

[John B.]

On Wed, 23 Nov 2022 18:16:57 -0500, Catrike Rider

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/understanding-fbis-2021-crime-data
https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/press-releases/fbi-releases-2020-incident-based-data
https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/press-releases/fbi-releases-2021-and-first-quarter-2022-statistics-from-the-national-use-of-force-data-collection
https://crime-data-explorer.fr.cloud.gov/pages/explorer/crime/crime-trend

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Cheers,

John B.

[Catrike Rider]

On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 07:29:07 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>

Did you bother to check that out. The data tables like in the 2019
report are no longer available. Instead they offer a few PDF files
with very limited data

[John B.]

On Wed, 23 Nov 2022 19:43:12 -0500, Catrike Rider

did you actually read the references... even the first one?

From
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/understanding-fbis-2021-crime-data

I see:
Crime Select - Homicide
Year Select - 2021

Homicide Offender vs. Victim Demographics
Offender Race - Black or African American 7,875
White - 4,905

Victim Race - Black or African American 8,543
White - 5,498

And so on... the same data as was presented in the previous tables

What does the Good Book say? "which have eyes, and see not"?
(Jeremiah 5:21)
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Cheers,

John B.

[Catrike Rider]

On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 08:07:16 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>

I actually posted the data that was in that was in one of those PDFs
yesterday... Here it is again...

**********************************************
key value
Black or African American 335507
White 328817
Unknown 74048
American Indian or Alaska Native 11984
Asian 6278
Native Hawaiian 0
**********************************************

Compare that with the data in the 2019 files you referenced yesterday.

[Tom Kunich]

Remember that this sort of crap started with the Black Panther's claim that blacks were discriminated against. They were in OAKLAND! The only discrimination at that time was from the small number of rich people in the hills and in Piedmont which was a district of Oakland at the time. Otherwise the rest of Oakland had the same discrimination for the Irish, the Italians and the Slavs.

The Democrats seized upon these claims to lock in the black vote which was something like 15 or 16% of Oakland. And this is what it has led to - 60% of the crime committed by what is now 13% of the population and largely against their own race. When you use hatred as a tool to negotiate votes, no good can come from it.

[John B.]

On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 08:34:01 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich

I can't comment on California but I lived in Florida, Georgia,
Alabama, Louisiana and Maine where black folks were certainly
discriminated against. Maine was a bit different as originally there
were few if any Blacks living there. Then the "do gooders" started
bussing Blacks into the state and they started working for low wages
and took jobs away from "Maniacs" who then decided that they were "no
good".
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Cheers,

John B.