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Serotta Legend Ti or Seven Axiom ?

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Lfdtrauma

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Oct 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/13/99
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Hi - looking to build my dream bike; I've narrowed it to the two above. Looking
for opinions regarding the relative merits of the two frames. The Seven
ordering process allows one to supposedly 'custom tune' several aspects of the
ride - reviews I've read said that this actually works, but I wanted some
confirmation from other folks out there. Serotta's racing heritage is hard to
deny and I like the F1 fork (I may even put one on a Seven). I'm 6'1", 190,
'A' club rider and occasional Cat V racer, ride about 4K miles yearly. Looking
for 'stage race' geometry - ie, all day comfort, stable handling. I'll continue
to use my Cannondale in the local Cat V crashfests. I appreciate anyone sharing
their experiences with me...........Lou D'Amelio

Fritz Onion

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Oct 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/13/99
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"Lfdtrauma" <lfdt...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Hi - looking to build my dream bike; I've narrowed it to the two above.
Looking
> for opinions regarding the relative merits of the two frames. The Seven
> ordering process allows one to supposedly 'custom tune' several aspects of
the
> ride - reviews I've read said that this actually works, but I wanted some
> confirmation from other folks out there. Serotta's racing heritage is hard
to

I've been riding my new Seven Axiom for a month now, and it's surpassed all
my expectations. I worked with my local bike shop on my measurements for
the custom fit kit and ride qualities. When Seven was ready to fab the
frame, they faxed me the specs and then called me and we talked for almost
half an hour about the frame specifications. I didn't go for anything
really unusual - moderately stiff, but comfortable riding position. My
first ride on the bike was a solo 110 mile trek in Maine (the ride was
already planned, and the bike became ready the night before!). After 20
miles of getting used to eachother, something clicked, and I felt completely
connected to the bike. It accelerated at will, sailed over rough terrain,
flew downhills as if on a rail - I've never felt anything like it. I also
added Seven's carbon fork built by WoundUp, their new carbon seat post, and
their Ti stem for a complete Seven package - all nice touches.
I've never ridden a Serotta, so I can't comment on comparing the two. This
was my first (and last:) Ti bike, after riding aluminum and steel frames for
years.

Happy shopping...

-Fritz

Qui si parla Campagnolo

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Oct 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/13/99
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<< Serotta's racing heritage is hard to
deny >>


Hmmmm-anyway-
Both are good choices, both offer custom packages, both are really expensive-
Serotta can be custom painted, not so Seven(I think)-
When paying $3000+ for a ti frameset, both are good choices-
If ya close yer eyes, i doubt you can really tell the difference-
Serotta will come outta a LBS-Seven won't necessarily(MO)-
Peter

Tonyroadnz

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Oct 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/13/99
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We have had fantastic customer service w/ Serotta. The frames look and ride
great. The only Seven I have seen was also a nice looking bike.
(Finish/Welds). I would urge you to consider that Serotta has been and will be
around for you years from now. Great Day. Tony

Andrew Karre

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Oct 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/13/99
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My LBS sells Seven and Serotta (although they are pushing the Sevens much
more). Both are absurdly nice bicycles, and I can't afford either.
Everyone I ride with who has a Ti Seven absolutely adores it. The shop
owner has a Ti Serotta and likes it well enough that he says he won't bother
to replace it with a Seven (although he is getting a Seven tandem). Which
one will take longer to deliver? The customs Sevens seemed to take at least
a month.
I'd kill to have to make this choice.
Andrew Karre
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Jay Beattie

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Oct 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/13/99
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Andrew Karre wrote in message <7u2a70$s...@wiscnews.wiscnet.net>...

<snip>

>Everyone I ride with who has a Ti Seven absolutely adores it. The shop
>owner has a Ti Serotta and likes it well enough that he says he won't
bother
>to replace it with a Seven (although he is getting a Seven tandem). Which
>one will take longer to deliver? The customs Sevens seemed to take at
least
>a month.

<snip>

Of course they adore their frames. Nobody who spends $3K on a bike frame is
going to say that it rides just like any other frame built with similar
tubing and geometry -- including frames $1-2K less. -- Jay Beattie.

klehner

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Oct 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/13/99
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Jay Beattie wrote:

> Of course they adore their frames. Nobody who spends $3K on a bike frame is
> going to say that it rides just like any other frame built with similar
> tubing and geometry -- including frames $1-2K less. -- Jay Beattie.

Does $2400 (in 1995 dollars) count? I bought a Serotta Ti frame for that
much, and I'm sure that it rides just like any other frame built with similar
tubing and geometry. I like the frame because of the tubing they used (ovalized
and oversized), since it appears to be very stiff and it is very light. No
magic qualities.

Nyah-nyah.

Ken "because I could afford it" Lehner

Wayne T

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Oct 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/13/99
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Jay Beattie wrote in message <3804...@news.nwlink.com>...

>
>Andrew Karre wrote in message <7u2a70$s...@wiscnews.wiscnet.net>...
>
><snip>
>
>>Everyone I ride with who has a Ti Seven absolutely adores it. The
shop
>>owner has a Ti Serotta and likes it well enough that he says he won't
>bother
>>to replace it with a Seven (although he is getting a Seven tandem).
Which
>>one will take longer to deliver? The customs Sevens seemed to take at
>least
>>a month.
>
><snip>
>
>Of course they adore their frames. Nobody who spends $3K on a bike
frame is
>going to say that it rides just like any other frame built with similar
>tubing and geometry -- including frames $1-2K less. -- Jay Beattie.
>
>

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. In the same way that the
owner of a Ti
Seven is entitled to theirs. Its probable that Sevens and Serottas
deserve their
reputations and the admiration of the people that own them. What I
don't get is that
if you're spending that much (somebody mentioned 'dream bike' earlier),
why is
delivery time a factor?

WayneT


Qui si parla Campagnolo

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Oct 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/15/99
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<< Of course they adore their frames. Nobody who spends $3K on a bike frame is
going to say that it rides just like any other frame built with similar
tubing and geometry >>


Reality, what a concept-
peter

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