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TTT Prima vs. ITM Pro225 lightweight road handlebars?

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D. Mark Abrahams

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Sep 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/19/98
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Any opinions on TTT Prima (220g) vs. ITM Pro225 (225g) lightweight road
handlebars (or any others)? In particular, is either one noticeably stiffer
than the other? Are they both double-grooved for use with Campy Ergo?

This much I inferred from the QBP catalog, and from looking at their heavier
brethren: Color is different (Prima is dark grey, Pro225 is silver);
shape is just about the same. The Cinelli Nerve (225g, silver) also
looks nice but -- assuming it's about the same drop and reach as the Cinelli
Touch and Eubios -- it has a shorter drop and reach than the Prima and Pro225.

Thanks ...

Mark Abrahams, Berkeley CA

B_Davies

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Sep 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/19/98
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I recently purchased the ITM scatto, which is the same bar, albiet heavier.
I found the ITM to be fairly flexy, and after it was deformed in a crash, I
replaced
it with the TTT forma. The TTT is much more rigid, and has a bend that I
consider
to be more complementary to ergo shifters.
The ITM has much deeper double grooves that the TTT, and I think that may
contibute to the amount of flex in the bar. BTW my ITM was 46cm, my TTT
44cm.
The difference of which did not explain the large difference in rigidity.
They are both excellent bars, but I feel the TTT is slightly stronger.
The bends are almost identical, with the TTT bent a little sharper above the
drop.
Hope that helps.
Ben

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Morten Reippuert Knudsen

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Sep 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/20/98
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D. Mark Abrahams <d...@stat.Berkeley.EDU> wrote:

> Any opinions on TTT Prima (220g) vs. ITM Pro225 (225g) lightweight road
> handlebars (or any others)? In particular, is either one noticeably stiffer
> than the other? Are they both double-grooved for use with Campy Ergo?
>
> This much I inferred from the QBP catalog, and from looking at their heavier
> brethren: Color is different (Prima is dark grey, Pro225 is silver);
> shape is just about the same. The Cinelli Nerve (225g, silver) also
> looks nice but -- assuming it's about the same drop and reach as the Cinelli
> Touch and Eubios -- it has a shorter drop and reach than the Prima and Pro225.
>
> Thanks ...
>
> Mark Abrahams, Berkeley CA

I've had a 44cm Prima 220 a cupple of years ago, which i did not find
stiff enough compared to TTT's Forma or ITM's Pro which i usaly use (I
tend to get my bikes stolen at least once a year). I dont know ITM's Pro
225 but i had ITM's Pro 260, which also wasn't stiff enoug for me. I am
185cm and weight arround 80kg (-/+ 2kg) and use 44 cm handlebars.

Both ITM and TTT's handlebars are sold in doubbled grooved versions
(ITM's are caled 2 and TTT's are called Ergopower) for Campangolo
Ergopower. However, i noticed that the top grooove an my ITM Pro 2
dosent fit my new Campangolo Chorus 98 Lever corectly - The cable tend
to slip under the tape and move away from the groove near the
braking-lever. i guess that it will do the same on TTT's or Cinelli's
bars, since its the design of the Lever which has changed.

Both ITM and TTT has 3 different shapes og handlebars:
An anatomic version each (ITM are using Modolo design and TTT uses their
own design, which is also used by Cinelli).
A deep round version, I dont know if they have similarities.
A low round version, I think its the same design - I can't feel the
difference.

Cinelli used to have 4 (62, 63, 64, 66) different shape + an anatomic
shape of each handlebar. I don't know if they still do.
--
med venlig hilsen Morten Reippuert Knudsen

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Morten Reippuert Knudsen

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Sep 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/20/98
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B_Davies <zen...@ou.edu> wrote:

> I recently purchased the ITM scatto, which is the same bar, albiet heavier.
> I found the ITM to be fairly flexy, and after it was deformed in a crash, I
> replaced
> it with the TTT forma. The TTT is much more rigid, and has a bend that I
> consider
> to be more complementary to ergo shifters.
> The ITM has much deeper double grooves that the TTT, and I think that may
> contibute to the amount of flex in the bar. BTW my ITM was 46cm, my TTT
> 44cm.
> The difference of which did not explain the large difference in rigidity.
> They are both excellent bars, but I feel the TTT is slightly stronger.
> The bends are almost identical, with the TTT bent a little sharper above the
> drop.
> Hope that helps.
> Ben

You can't compare the Scatto with a Forma - The TTT cost twce as much,
the forma should be compared with an ITM Pro or Pro 260.

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