This much I inferred from the QBP catalog, and from looking at their heavier
brethren: Color is different (Prima is dark grey, Pro225 is silver);
shape is just about the same. The Cinelli Nerve (225g, silver) also
looks nice but -- assuming it's about the same drop and reach as the Cinelli
Touch and Eubios -- it has a shorter drop and reach than the Prima and Pro225.
Thanks ...
Mark Abrahams, Berkeley CA
D. Mark Abrahams wrote in message <6u0pk0$15n$1...@agate.berkeley.edu>...
> Any opinions on TTT Prima (220g) vs. ITM Pro225 (225g) lightweight road
> handlebars (or any others)? In particular, is either one noticeably stiffer
> than the other? Are they both double-grooved for use with Campy Ergo?
>
> This much I inferred from the QBP catalog, and from looking at their heavier
> brethren: Color is different (Prima is dark grey, Pro225 is silver);
> shape is just about the same. The Cinelli Nerve (225g, silver) also
> looks nice but -- assuming it's about the same drop and reach as the Cinelli
> Touch and Eubios -- it has a shorter drop and reach than the Prima and Pro225.
>
> Thanks ...
>
> Mark Abrahams, Berkeley CA
I've had a 44cm Prima 220 a cupple of years ago, which i did not find
stiff enough compared to TTT's Forma or ITM's Pro which i usaly use (I
tend to get my bikes stolen at least once a year). I dont know ITM's Pro
225 but i had ITM's Pro 260, which also wasn't stiff enoug for me. I am
185cm and weight arround 80kg (-/+ 2kg) and use 44 cm handlebars.
Both ITM and TTT's handlebars are sold in doubbled grooved versions
(ITM's are caled 2 and TTT's are called Ergopower) for Campangolo
Ergopower. However, i noticed that the top grooove an my ITM Pro 2
dosent fit my new Campangolo Chorus 98 Lever corectly - The cable tend
to slip under the tape and move away from the groove near the
braking-lever. i guess that it will do the same on TTT's or Cinelli's
bars, since its the design of the Lever which has changed.
Both ITM and TTT has 3 different shapes og handlebars:
An anatomic version each (ITM are using Modolo design and TTT uses their
own design, which is also used by Cinelli).
A deep round version, I dont know if they have similarities.
A low round version, I think its the same design - I can't feel the
difference.
Cinelli used to have 4 (62, 63, 64, 66) different shape + an anatomic
shape of each handlebar. I don't know if they still do.
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> I recently purchased the ITM scatto, which is the same bar, albiet heavier.
> I found the ITM to be fairly flexy, and after it was deformed in a crash, I
> replaced
> it with the TTT forma. The TTT is much more rigid, and has a bend that I
> consider
> to be more complementary to ergo shifters.
> The ITM has much deeper double grooves that the TTT, and I think that may
> contibute to the amount of flex in the bar. BTW my ITM was 46cm, my TTT
> 44cm.
> The difference of which did not explain the large difference in rigidity.
> They are both excellent bars, but I feel the TTT is slightly stronger.
> The bends are almost identical, with the TTT bent a little sharper above the
> drop.
> Hope that helps.
> Ben
You can't compare the Scatto with a Forma - The TTT cost twce as much,
the forma should be compared with an ITM Pro or Pro 260.