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TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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Apr 5, 2012, 9:24:07 AM4/5/12
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Someone provided this video the other day, and it's really sad that we
have trashed paradise...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7OHG7tHrNM

The shoreline where I launch my kayak is like that. It's a marginal
mangrove but the water is really polluted and the garbage is floating
all over. I think very few people care and the authorities and
affluent people look the other way. Maybe they never visit these areas
because they live in the beautiful part of town, the infamous Gated
Communities. Well, this filth --multiplied by the filth from the
motorboats-- is blown away across the bay and ends up on the
shorelines of beautiful parks and public attractions. One of these
attractions next to the water has a band playing and you feel good
with the music and the view, but the garbage sits right there. And you
must wonder about the sad state of this world. I hear there's a
garbage island --twice the size of Texas-- in the middle of the
Pacific Ocean. Why?

It must be that the health of the planet is a low priority for our
leaders. If dogs and cats can be trained to keep their crap under
control, so can we. Don't blame our monkey mind for it. Yes, we tend
to resist training but we do respond to reward and punishment. Others
are fully civilized and do not need to be told what to do. It's all
common sense. But that's only my humble opinion.

In places like Norway there's no litter found anywhere. Gated
Communities have no litter. So it's all possible. Why is it that our
communities have been trashed? When was the last time they issued a
ticket for the mundane act of littering? Why don't they place cameras
where littering is a problem?

No answer found in my monkey mind.

http://zoolology.com/img/monkeys/thinking.jpg

Imagine this sign, "Anyone found trashing the Garden of Eden will be
expelled." It sounds more reasonable that God expelled Adam & Eve over
reasons like these instead of the silly fruit. The world is making
sense now.


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TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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Apr 5, 2012, 10:54:14 AM4/5/12
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On Apr 5, 10:16 am, "Hägar" <hs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com>
> wrote in messagenews:e4f3ed4b-af75-4c08...@2g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 5, 9:38 am, "Hägar" <hs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > "HVAC" <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> > > Washington Post-
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> > > In its budget submitted to Congress Feb. 13, the Obama administration
> > > zeroed out funding for NASA’s future Mars exploration missions. The Mars
> > > Science Lab Curiosity is en route to the red planet, and the nearly
> > > completed small Maven orbiter, scheduled for launch in 2013, will be
> > > sent,
> > > but that’s it. No funding has been provided for the Mars probes planned
> > > as
> > > joint missions with the Europeans for 2016 and 2018, and nothing after
> > > that is funded, either. This poses a crisis for the American space
> > > program.
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> > You just don't get it, do you ....
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> > Screw mars .... it is far more important to get the Nation's crack whores
> > and pimps on Obamacare and welfare, including free cell phones, as not to
> > interrupt their livelihood of illegal drug trading and the spreading of
> > AIDS, but also riot in sympathetic assistance to ghetto trash like Trevon
> > Martin, a 2-bit hoodlum, about to be made a martyr by the likes of Al
> > Sharpton and Jessy Jackson, who really don't give a fuck about the
> > thousands
> > of ghetto Niggers killed each year by their own race. But throw a partial
> > white anything into the mix and the righteous reverends begin their
> > "Tawana
> > Brawley" dance of injustice and ignorance. It just proves that blacks are
> > mentally inferior to whites. I personally didn't believe that, but the
> > good
> > Reverends have since changed my mind by irrefutably proving it by their
> > irresponsible behavior.
>
> I would only support any space adventure if it promises to send the
> Republican leaders to Mars by 2025.
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> ************************************
> That's why we are doing our best to eradicate people like yourself before
> that fateful date is upon us.

I think you are planning WWIII and then be able to elope. We can't
even manage this spacecraft called Earth and you want more adventures.
We are also trashing the planet with no thought of the future.

What did America gain by going to the Moon in the 60's and then
forgetting about it?

(PeteCresswell)

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Apr 5, 2012, 4:51:18 PM4/5/12
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Per TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher:
>In places like Norway there's no litter found anywhere. Gated
>Communities have no litter. So it's all possible. Why is it that our
>communities have been trashed?

One factor is returnable containers: bottles/cans where one puts
down an additional nickel or whatever deposit - which is refunded
when the empty container is returned.

I used to vacation in a state (Maine) that still had
returnable/deposit containers and, being used to Pennsylvania/New
Jersey, I was blown away by the total absence of bottle and can
litter.

That's not to say the non-rocket-scientists among us don't toss
them here and there... but they get picked up. Way back in the
fifties - before New Jersey went over to the dark side - as kids
we used to spend hours under the boardwalk collecting returnables
that we cashed in for spending money.

In Hawaii in the sixties it seemed like almost a macho thing to
accumulate case-upon-case of empty beer bottles and have periodic
group pilgrimages to the distiller/distributor to cash them in
for more beer (much of which seemed tb consumed that very
day....).

But, for the most part, we seem to have the best government that
money can buy.... and the bottled beverage industry's got money.
--
Pete Cresswell

datakoll

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Apr 5, 2012, 9:01:55 PM4/5/12
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TRY THE NEWSLETTER

http://myfwc.com/


USERS OF PUBLIC LANDS OUT WEST ARE MORE AWARE, CLEANER, NEATER, THAN CASUAL NEAR URBAN-SUBURBAN EASTERN USERS.

I removed poptops from several areas east coast, several large detrashings-ranger 'complained' he had to aletr his sched and find a loader/truck.

most times out here yawl cudnut find a cigarette butt

datakoll

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Apr 5, 2012, 9:21:04 PM4/5/12
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The Dalles Albertson's gives terminalo mental dysfunction. Uh how does this go.....0000000000000....storecharges 680 cents and collar bone surcharge on a 6 pack diet pepsi redeemable ONLY AT THE STORE'S RECYCLE AREA WITH THE CANS AND RECEIPT.

OR emPLOYs the retarded to pump you gas. Necessary carrying a pick handle painted yellow.
DRILL: stop short of pump. di fire drill with pick handle.
move to pump.
get out with pick handle held hi
stand there with pick handle during refueling.'
carefull no one sneaks up on other truck side.

John B.

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Apr 5, 2012, 9:50:44 PM4/5/12
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On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 16:51:18 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)" <x...@y.Invalid>
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As a kid I discovered the marvels of modern finance - drag my little
red wagon around and pick up all the empty bottles. turn them in for
enough to pay for the Saturday afternoon movies AND a box of popcorn.

But... into every life a little rain must fall and one day I
discovered a real cache behind someone's trash barrel, a literal
mountain of beer bottles. It took two trips with the wagon to the
store and I was sure that I had discovered the Midas touch.

Later the same day my mother asked me about beer bottles and I related
my new found road to wealth. My mother insisted that I never, never,
do "that" any more.

It seems that she had, while shopping, met Mrs. Somebody who commented
"Oh, I guess you must have had a real party last night?" My mother,
not being party to my latest financial successes questioned why the
woman should think that? And, got told about my several trips to the
store redeeming beer bottles. My mother was scandalized by the
accusations and that was the end of that.

For the younger readers I will comment that in earlier days, in small
New England villages, drinking was considered a sin and to compound
that only the lower classes drank beer. (at least in public :-)

The moral is that even in a well thought out, environmental friendly,
idea there are some pitfalls :-)
--
Cheers,

John B.

datakoll

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Apr 5, 2012, 9:54:10 PM4/5/12
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BUY A PICK HANDLE

AMuzi

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Apr 5, 2012, 10:27:34 PM4/5/12
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Some of the human wildlife is wacky and out of control:

http://www.fresnobee.com/2012/04/04/v-print/2788652/national-parks-horse-packing-on.html

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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Apr 5, 2012, 10:54:13 PM4/5/12
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On Apr 5, 11:19 am, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
> TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
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> > Imagine this sign, "Anyone found trashing the Garden of Eden will be
> > expelled." It sounds more reasonable that God expelled Adam & Eve over
> > reasons like these instead of the silly fruit. The world is making
> > sense now.
>
> At least Adam and Eve made their clothes from fig leaves. God made them
> better clothes from the fur of animals but it left a bloody mess.

They were gatherers, and God made them hunters. Thus the hunter-
gatherers were born.

They even killed the mammoths before they got a chance to board Noah's
Ark. How could God have made such a SUPER PREDATOR that today
threatens the whole planet?

TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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Apr 5, 2012, 11:12:12 PM4/5/12
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On Apr 5, 1:43 pm, "Hägar" <hs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com>
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> On Apr 5, 10:16 am, "Hägar" <hs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> It is man's destiny to conquer the Universe. We are better served to
> finance excursions which allow us to expand out presence and settle new
> planets, than pay welfare for wimps who are incapable of taking care of
> themselves. Since we can't make the useless ones stop fornicating without
> the resources required to support such lustful endeavors and their sobering
> consequences, they should be left to die and rot in their ghettos without
> support from the rest of us.
> Leave it to Liberals to come up with the idea that paying someone to
> comfortably sit on his ass would motivate him to find gainful employment.
> They should all get one free shipment of Tang, instead.

Fat idiots on automatic pilot eloped after trashing the planet...
Sounds familiar?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgMmbAWF6bY&feature=related

Her name is Eve. It sounds like Walle came to save the Christians from
self-destruction.

datakoll

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Apr 6, 2012, 3:33:15 AM4/6/12
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yeah we old folk frequently jaw about the good old days following WW2 of clear water, endless (hay) fields, thousand bird flocks now rare...

and its pressure pressure pressure....no beach=no beach birds. Have you seen a flock of marbled Godwits lately ?

so what you will read in legislation produced by you know who-eg Devin Nunes-
is a text reading conservation filled with loopholes overall defining the local scene but sneakily allowing overuse by profiteering commercial interests where the document itself was specifically promtoed to not do this.

I participated with magnus zero results in The GREAT ESA ORCA PROTECTION SCHEMEPF 2011. Much heraldead, the document reads as writing by a 3rd grade imbecile promoting dynamiting fish.

datakoll

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Apr 6, 2012, 5:40:49 AM4/6/12
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APPROPO ?



HAVING A LANGUAGE PROBLEM IN AZ AND UT…NOT MAJOR…MAJOR MAJOR…A WORD HERE OR THERE = ZERO

FOR EXAMPLE THE TOP BOARD OUTSIDE THE VISITORS CENTER EXPLICTLY STATE – NO LODGING –
IN KINGS ENGLISH THIS MEANS WHAT ?
YET THERE’S LODGING AT THE CAMPGROUND UP THE ROAD
NO BICYCLING ! NADA ! I READ THIS YET AFTER SOME IRS AT 3AM I FIND WHAT ?

http://www.nps.gov/care/planyourvisit/biketours.htm

http://science.nature.nps.gov/im/units/ncpn/

TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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Apr 6, 2012, 8:08:50 AM4/6/12
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On Apr 5, 4:30 pm, mind <being@.... --- -- .> wrote:
> linuxgal wrote:
> > TibetanMonkey wrote:
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> >> Imagine this sign, "Anyone found trashing the Garden of Eden will be
> >> expelled." It sounds more reasonable that God expelled Adam & Eve over
> >> reasons like these instead of the silly fruit. The world is making
> >> sense now.
>
> >At least Adam and Eve made their clothes from fig leaves. God made them
> >better clothes from the fur of animals but it left a bloody mess.
>
> While the world might be making sense
> in the mind of he who calls himself TibetanMonkey,
> he does not seem to me to sense a sense of the tree,
> which even to touch it, let alone eat the fruit thereof,
> results in a spiritual death on that very day.
>
> He carves a so-called sacred space into good and bad.
> He loses what is so-called sacred in so doing.
> He appears to want to eliminate what he thinks is bad.
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> It might be possible to get rid of something wrong
> by chopping off a piece that isn't right. What's left
> will still not be all right. There will always be wrong
> as long as right exists in one's mind.
>
> When that which is not right is eliminated
> while one will be left with what is right
> one will also be left with something left.
>
> To the left of right.
> To the wrong of right.
> Two rights might make might.
> Especially when one looks for a fight.
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> To fight for a cause.
> What a thing to believe.
> It's the stuff nonsense can be made of.
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> He leaves me wondering
> as a tree might shed its leaves in a fall.
> As if there is something wrong with leaves
> and what is left, as if it isn't right.
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> There is a sense of Taoism
> beyond that of good and bad, of garbage
> and trash and everything sad or glad.
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> I'm not sure what its number is.
> Perhaps it was here before numbers were.
> Ore, neither here nor there, as well.
>
> - ribbit

He who calls himself the Wise TibetanMonkey says that THE REVOLUTION
IS ABOUT SOLUTION and if LITTER WARDENS is what it takes so be it:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1319815/Peterborough-City-Council-slammed-paying-bonuses-3-litter-wardens-1-year.html

I must confess that I never heard of such a fine thing, but it makes
sense even when a little corruption stains their record. One picture
is worth a million bucks. Let there be litter wardens so the world is
free of crap. But if the enlightened ones think it doesn't matter one
way or the other, they must be wise like the Three Wise Monkeys.

TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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Apr 6, 2012, 8:29:03 AM4/6/12
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Yes, that's a big chunk of the problem. Now the macho thing is to
throw away with casual disregard for anything. I see beer cans left
everywhere, particularly the pretty spots that call for a beer. Sure,
have the beer, but get a fine too if you forget your trash.

But we must recycle like they do in Norway. It's a machine that gives
you the change and everything. Smart folks.

TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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Apr 6, 2012, 9:55:24 AM4/6/12
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On Apr 5, 10:27 pm, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> datakoll wrote:
> > TRY THE NEWSLETTER
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> >http://myfwc.com/
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> > USERS OF PUBLIC LANDS OUT WEST ARE MORE AWARE, CLEANER, NEATER, THAN CASUAL NEAR URBAN-SUBURBAN EASTERN USERS.
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> > I removed poptops from several areas east coast, several large detrashings-ranger 'complained' he had to aletr his sched and find a loader/truck.
>
> > most times out here yawl cudnut find a cigarette butt
>
> Some of the human wildlife is wacky and out of control:
>
> http://www.fresnobee.com/2012/04/04/v-print/2788652/national-parks-ho...
>
> --
> Andrew Muzi
>   <www.yellowjersey.org/>
>   Open every day since 1 April, 1971

That may mean that my plan to ride an ass on the road should be put on
hold as well. This is inspired by Jesus, of course, to show the world
there are other humble ways to go around besides the bicycle.

datakoll

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Apr 6, 2012, 10:37:55 AM4/6/12
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peer group pressure, tribal pressures, tribal awareness, tribal consciousness...like daze all in dah same boat.
recent shooter notwithstanding

TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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On Apr 6, 11:34 am, rst9 <rst9w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 6, 6:37 am, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
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> > On Apr 5, 12:03 pm, rst0 <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > On Apr 5, 7:38 am, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
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> > > <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > Someone provided this video the other day, and it's really sad that we
> > > > have trashed paradise...
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> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7OHG7tHrNM
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> > > It was a commercial on TV long ago. I remember it well.
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> > Now it's like nobody wants to listen that we have become a
> > throw away society. Saving and moderation are taboo ideas
> > nowadays. Carter used to encourage people to save energy,
> > but today those are words used by the wimpy.
>
> Just think how much have have wasted of our natural resources!!!!
> 1: The millions of buffaloes roaming the plains of
> North America.
> 2: The Native American Indians depended on the buffaloes
> for food and clothing.
> 3: The forests we cut down for lumber and farmland.
> 4: The contamination we spread throughout our land.

Yep, and all in the name of a "progress" that translates into living a
sedentary life without meaning. Indians were happy roaming free on
their horses but now they also got the white man diseases: obesity,
diabetes and alcoholism. We can't be riding horses no more, but we
could be riding bicycles.

TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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On Apr 6, 10:37 am, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> peer group pressure, tribal pressures, tribal awareness, tribal consciousness...like daze all in dah same boat.
> recent shooter notwithstanding

True, tribes hate and are ready spear one another...

http://www.amazon-tribes.com/Huaorani-Tribe-Spears-cens.jpg

Wes Groleau

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On 04-06-2012 14:33, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
> sedentary life without meaning. Indians were happy roaming free on
> their horses but now they also got the white man diseases: obesity,
> diabetes and alcoholism. We can't be riding horses no more, but we

That's not the only thing the white man gave them. He gave them the
horses, too. Before that, they got around by their own muscles.

--
Wes Groleau

Pat's Polemics
http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/barrett

TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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Apr 7, 2012, 8:10:29 AM4/7/12
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The horses escaped the Spaniards, and it was later taken away from the
Indians by civilization. Same civilization that gave us the bike and
deny us space.

I'm seeing the glass half empty, but I want to question our "march
toward progress" as a positive step. The minute we became too
sedentary that's when we became stupid. Nowadays we only care about
keeping the machine going no matter what the cost is in human lives
and suffering.

TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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On Apr 6, 2:47 pm, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
Sorry, maybe it wasn't funny, but the term "tribe" includes
nationalities such as German, Jew, Cuban, etc?

I think we are one "world tribe." It sounds kind of catchy, right?

Sir Ridesalot

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On Apr 5, 9:24 am, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Someone provided this video the other day, and it's really sad that we
> have trashed paradise...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7OHG7tHrNM
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You do know that the Indian in that commercial was Iron Eyes Cody and
he was of Italian descent not native Amerindian? His real name was
Espera Oscar de Corti andhe wasborn in Kaplan, Louisiana and was the
second son of Antonio de Corti and his wife, Francesca Salpietra who
were immigrants from Sicily.

It is too bad that so many people foul the outdoors with litter. I
liked the old adage, "Take nothing but pictures and leave nothing but
footprints."

Cheers

TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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> "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
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> On Apr 6, 9:56 pm, "SFD" <s...@127000.00> wrote:
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> > Philosopher"<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > > Someone provided this video the other day, and it's really sad that we
> > > have trashed paradise...
>
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7OHG7tHrNM
>
> > Organise a Day-A-Month Cleanup Campaign (DAMC) with your local Christian
> > Church Youth League (CHUL).
> > They can spend the day picking up crap etc. which should make them feel
> > good. Tell them each piece of crap etc. they pick up earns one point which
> > is redeemable in heaven - I guarantee you they will want to have DAMC
> > everyday. In fact, assuming this is in America which has a 76% practicing
> > Christian following, I am surprised that there is any litter around at
> > all -
> > or I suppose its the 25% heathens causing all the litter!
> > After the DAMC they can sit around a camp fire singing Kumbaya My Lord.
>
> Yeah, good strategy. But I'm sorry to say that my community is full of
> shit despite having a strong membership in church. I have to make sure
> they understand that Adam & Eve were kicked out for trashing Paradise.
>
> mmmmmm - on second thoughts maybe best to approach The Church of the Devil
> or one other such 'Dark' churches and get them on board the clean-up
> brigade. That will stir up the limp wristed lot into perhaps picking up a
> paper or two between verses.
>
> Where I live we don't seem to have too much of a problem with litter, the
> local council does a pretty good job employing street sweepers and crap
> picker-uppers - except in car lots and parking spaces where louts eat their
> MacDonalds in their cars and then leave the leftover garbage and packets
> either side of where the car was parked. However I must give credit where
> its due, they do leave the empty packets and garbage in neat little piles.
> This all I fear stems from the PC society. When teachers at schools tell the
> children to pick up their litter, they just plainly refuse claiming that
> that is the job of the cleaner. Maybe there's something in that, provides
> work for someone?
> When I was at school and if you were caught littering you got a good
> canning - which had the result that you littered only once in your life.
> Bring back corporal punishment I say - shoot the fuckers in public, could
> make for good entertainment. Commit a crime and get hung, by the balls on
> the first offence, by the neck on the second. And for those that just happen
> to be innocent but found guilty by bad luck - stiff, get hung anyway just in
> case they did something illegal and were not caught!

This should teach them a good lesson:

http://www.awesomestories.com/images/user/248ba7666a.jpg

Then we invite the community to throw garbage at them. I don't think
they'll do it again.

Another less sadistic approach is to make them do community hours,
which will equally expose them to public scorn.

TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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On Apr 8, 9:13 am, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
> mind wrote:
> > TibetanMonkey wrote:
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> >> I'm seeing the glass half empty,
>
> > Progress means good.
> > Good implies bad or not-good.
> > Where there is plus there is minus.
> > When something is gained, something is lost.
>
> Gaining is not permanent, losing is not permanent, but the cycle of
> gaining and losing is permanent.

The Wisdom of the Jungle teaches differently. At times is similar to
Buddhism, at times it differs dramatically. You fight a problem until
you solve it, such the trashing problem. Sometimes you don't fight and
let it be, such as the drug policy. You must be adaptable to survive
in the jungle and do the smart thing.
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