Fogelfuhrer Krygo hysterically bites own tail
Andre Jute
claims I lied about it, and his bumbuddy Frank Krygowski is now
clumsily trying to make my little thrill appear so difficult that one
would have to be superman to perform it. In the process Krygowski lies
and exaggerates and puts words I never spoke into my mouth. Unlike the
Fogel-Krygowski scum, I don't make vague allegations, I nail the liars
down with their own words. Stick with me and enjoy the ride.
The fairminded might wish to know that I have built cars from the
ground up and tested them at speeds very much in excess of 100kph, and
that I wrote a standard handbook about it (Andre Jute: Designing and
Constructing Special Cars, published in London by Batsford, in Boston
by Bentley, plus several specialist book club editions, as well as the
usual translations if your own language isn't English). There are
substantial chapters about aerodynamics and the more mechanical
problems of building prototypes.
Now let's see the problems Krygowski in his blundering way wants you
to believe stymied me:
<frkr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We're dealing with a troll who openly brags about misleading
> and deceiving people
That's an outright lie, Krygowski. What I actually said was that I
don't have to do shit like that, but you lack the sophistication to
understand irony.
>, while simultaneously posting a house-of-cards
> tower of improbabilities.
Well, let's see how improbable it is to do 105kph towed behind a
truck. Lead on through your house of propaganda, Fogelfuhrer Krygo.
>
> It's not impossible he found a wonderfully smooth,
Note the exaggerated adjectives Krygowski sprays over the landscape to
make the ride more heroic, so many excessive adjectives that their
very number become suspicious.
"Wonderfully" smooth, eh, Krygo? Nah. The road only has to be smooth
enough. As it happens, the entire complex of little farm roads was
resurfaced in the last few years.
Note also that neither Krygo nor any of the other Fogelscum asked me
for a photograph of the road. They just want to tell is what the road
is unsuitable without ever having seen it. Several photographs have in
fact been sitting on my netsite for many months now.
>yet steep and
> isolated farm road in rural Ireland.
There are three outright lies in just that short phrase from
Krygowski. Steepness is irrelevant when one is towed by a truck. I
gave a map reference to the road and it is clearly near a substantial
town, therefore not "isolated". And "rural" is simply stupid
ignorance: the road is in the rich, populated west of Co Cork, 15
minutes from the international airport and the city. Krygo invented
all that crap: I said neither "steep", nor "isolated" nor "rural".
>It's not impossible he knows
> someone with a truck.
I know the directors of at least ten firms with suitable trucks.
Trucks are available for rent. I did none of that. I just went to
where suitable trucks are loaded and asked who is the smoothest
driver. Five volunteered to help me. Krygo wants to get off his fat
arse more often and smell the fresh air.
>It's not impossible he acquired the proper
> hardware to hold the rear doors open just so
"Proper hardware", eh? You'd need to be a stupendously dumb Polack
bike mechanic to be incapable of rigging up a couple threaded rods and
some pipe clamps to hold a pair of doors open.
Were not finished with that stupidity by Krygo yet:
>hold the rear doors open just so
"Just so", eh, Krygo. For a 105kph max? Hey, dumbo, why don't you
learn something about aerodymics before you shoot off at the mouth? At
100kph it doesn't matter shit at what angle you hold the doors -- the
width of the road is the determining factor.
>, and fixed plywood to the
> lower tail of the truck,
Someone should buy you a seeing-eye dog, Krygowski, because you are
clearly blind and deaf and dumb too. Have you never looked at the back
of a truck? The hydraulic lift is a convenient place to fix plywood,
and raises it to the right heigh on a power ram for you, and the
framework holding its mechanism is another fixing frame.
> and worked out a towing scheme,
Whoo-hoo, real Brainiard stuff!
>and
> successfully got towed up to high speed,
105kph or somewhat over 60mph. We heard the other day of someone
*slipstreaming* a truck on the flat to 49mph. Your spite is
interfering with your perspective, Krygowski.
>and successfully released on
> the steepest part of the short hill,
This is another lie. I never said the release was on the steepest part
of the hill.
I'm starting to think Krygowski is calling me a liar without reading
or understanding what I wrote. That would fit with Krygowski's history
as Fogel's buttboy.
>and had the driver synchronize
> their accelerating speeds
This too is a lie. I never said it. It is not what was planned and it
is not what happened.
>exactly
This is a lie. I never said anything about "exactly". There was a
large amount of latitude. There always is in a speed test conducted by
anyone with brains and experience.
>to keep him within the stable draft,
This is a lie. There was never any question of drafting. No "stable
draft" was even attempted -- and I said so in my explanation.
Krygowski is a lying piece of slime trying to put words in my mouth.
> and briefly hit 100 kph
This is another of Krygowski's lies. It is clear from my description
to Clive George that I wasn't drafting up to 100kph but towed past it
and then just fell back through 100kph on release.
>, then quickly braked
Krygowski lies again. I specifically said I braked "gently".
> to a safe stop
This is a distortion of what I said so serious as qualify as another
lie by Krygowski. I said there was "zero stress", and I braked
"gently", so can "a safe stop" ever be in question? Krygowski is not
only a wanker, he is such a clumsy wanker, he'll pull his own dick
off.
>without
> being crashed
See above about Krygowski's other lies.
>by intense buffeting.
This is a lie. I said there was no "intense buffeting". I explained
how the doors were arranged to put the eddy currents further back
where they would already be weaker when the bike passed through the
eye. Krygowski is calling me a liar without reading what I wrote!
>
> And it's not impossible he did this risky,
How is it risky for someone with all my automobile experience to make
a 105mph test on a bike? You're wanking, again, Krygowski.
>complicated trick
Look Ma, I'm a Brainiard! Yes, son, but it's that thicko Krygo who
says so.
>(in
> street clothes!)
Why not? I was riding a bike at only twice the speed I normally ride
it over that stretch of road. Big deal. And Krygo is lying to you
again by not mentioning that I actually wore something else for
protection and streamlining: a leather bomber jacket.
>just in case he might someday get a chance to brag
Oh dear, Krygo. You might want to brag about a 100kph assisted speed
on your bike. I have much more impressive achievements to brag about,
should I ever be so inclined, than some preliminary low-speed test to
work out the wrinkles and see if the thrill is big enough that I want
to go for something more impressive.
> about it on rec.bicycles.tech,
You flatter yourself, man. I had never heard of RBT at the time, and
why the fuck should I choose to impress a bunch of bike mechanics? Get
a grip, Krygowski.
> but never bothered to publicize it
> elsewhere.
WTF? You think a 100kph behind a truck is worth "publicizing"? Then
you publicise it, sonny. I made it into an ironic joke, and your
oberfuhrer Fogel made it into a cause celebre.
> On the other hand, it's also possible he's a lying troll.
Everything is possible, but in this instance you're lying about me
because you're Fogel's buttboy and Fogel has made the fatal mistake of
falsely accusing me.
> Personally, I find Bill Baka to be much more believable, and much more
> personable.
Who cares shit whether some jumped-up Polack bike mechanic believes me
or likes me? All that is required is for you not call me a liar in
public unless you can prove it.
> - Frank Krygowski
So, what we have here is that the congenital idiot Frank Krygowski
tries to make being towed to 105kph by a truck look impossible so that
he can claim I didn't do it. To reach his goal Krygowski ludicrously
exaggerates the difficulty of the arrangements and engineering
required and puts words into my mouth that I didn't speak, and puts
words in my mouth directly contradictory to what I did speak, and
then, because he realizes that is not enough, Krygowsky lies and lies
and lies in his attempt to prove his bumbuddy Fogel's claim that my
modest little speed thrill didn't happen.
It did happen, and Fogel and Krygowski's clumsy lying won't tarnish
it.
Andre Jute
Zero tolerance of petty netscum
Sandy
news:b148f74c-7813-461a...@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com,
Andre Jute <fiu...@yahoo.com> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
>
> Who cares shit whether some jumped-up Polack [...]
Could be a second candidate for a leave of absence.
Just sayin'
datakoll
a euro correspondent speaks evil of the history group?
Luke
<b148f74c-7813-461a...@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Andre Jute <fiu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I rode a bike towed to 105mph behind truck down a hill. Carl Fogel
> claims I lied about it...
<snip>
I thought the speed you allegedly did not attain was 105 KM/H.
Consistency is a hallmark of professionalism; please stick to one
version. Thank you.
Tom Sherman
unit confusion, we can likely assume this change in reported speed is a
simple and unintentional error.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"And never forget, life ultimately makes failures of all people."
- A. Derleth
Andre Jute
> In article
> <b148f74c-7813-461a-8cdd-2b514d7da...@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Andre Jute <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I rode a bike towed to 105mph behind truck down a hill. Carl Fogel
> > claims I lied about it...
>
> <snip>
>
> I thought the speed you allegedly did not attain was 105 KM/H.
If you're so professional, Luke, you should know that "allegedly" by
itself is libellous, unless you can prove otherwise. In any event,
"allegedly" combined with "not" gives your sentence a double negative
cast and makes total nonsense of it. Is the number you want 105kph or
is it not?
> Consistency is a hallmark of professionalism;
Actually, precision is the hallmark of professionalism, and
consistency follows. But my experience is that talk of
"professionalism" is a firewall for tenth-rate wankers to hide behind.
This is especially true for jokers who use double negatives, as you
do.
>please stick to one
> version. Thank you.
Pompous little git, aren't you?
Andre Jute
Never explain, never apologize -- family motto
Luke
<2e5a4689-fc12-488a...@n22g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
Andre Jute <fiu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 28, 6:19 am, Luke <lucasirag...@rogers.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <b148f74c-7813-461a-8cdd-2b514d7da...@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > Andre Jute <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > I rode a bike towed to 105mph behind truck down a hill. Carl Fogel
> > > claims I lied about it...
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > I thought the speed you allegedly did not attain was 105 KM/H.
>
> If you're so professional, Luke, you should know that "allegedly" by
> itself is libellous, unless you can prove otherwise. In any event,
> "allegedly" combined with "not" gives your sentence a double negative
> cast and makes total nonsense of it. Is the number you want 105kph or
> is it not?
Well it cetainly isn't the number I don't want.
>
> > Consistency is a hallmark of professionalism;
>
> Actually, precision is the hallmark of professionalism, and
> consistency follows.
Precisely.
> But my experience is that talk of
> "professionalism" is a firewall for tenth-rate wankers to hide behind.
> This is especially true for jokers who use double negatives, as you
> do.
>
> >please stick to one
> > version. Thank you.
>
> Pompous little git, aren't you?
Yup. But I ain't no joker using double negatives.
Tom Sherman
> On Jan 28, 6:19 am, Luke <lucasirag...@rogers.com> wrote:
>> In article
>> <b148f74c-7813-461a-8cdd-2b514d7da...@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>> Andre Jute <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> I rode a bike towed to 105mph behind truck down a hill. Carl Fogel
>>> claims I lied about it...
>> <snip>
>>
>> I thought the speed you allegedly did not attain was 105 KM/H.
>
> If you're so professional, Luke, you should know that "allegedly" by
>
In which countries is it true that "allegedly" implies disbelief?
"Reportedly" would be a better term for an event that has not been
independently confirmed and where the author is not trying to imply
doubt as to the authenticity of the event. For example, "Mr. Sherman
reportedly rode his bicycle 20 km in one hour, obtaining a maximum
downhill speed of 40 km per hour on the journey."
datakoll
multiple posts attacking hisself
we all suffer great thrusts of highly developed ego into groups.
chain wear is always a good example.
MY CHAIN GOES 8,000 MILES BEFORE IT...
before I left, the MY CHAIN subject was tolerated.
OK OK if YOUR CHAIN.. then sobeit and farfromme to disssssssssssssssss
YOUR CHAIN
enevn tho we all knew you were and are FULL OF
SHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTT.
butbutbut my not humble opinion was everyone shpuld get one free pass
to dissssssssssssssss a MY CHAIN nincompoop
once every 12 months.
the idea was so well thought of at that time that everyone and his
brother dissssed the on hand MY CHAIN nincompoop several times in that
post.
SINCE THAT MOMENT IN CYBERSPACE, a new and disturbing trend reared its
ugly head
THE CONTINUOUS NEVERENDING STREAM OF BULLSHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETT FROM
THE SAME PERSON OVER AND OVER....
which is off course a completely different trip.
after all, if you want to go downhill at 145 mph on a bicycle no
problem
but how is that relevant to the discussion group or bicycling ?
how are you relevant, beyond your mother or dog?
WTFAYTA?
Andre Jute
wrote:
> Andre Jute wrote:
> > On Jan 28, 6:19 am, Luke <lucasirag...@rogers.com> wrote:
> >> In article
> >> <b148f74c-7813-461a-8cdd-2b514d7da...@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> >> Andre Jute <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> I rode a bike towed to 105mph behind truck down a hill. Carl Fogel
> >>> claims I lied about it...
> >> <snip>
>
> >> I thought the speed you allegedly did not attain was 105 KM/H.
>
> > If you're so professional, Luke, you should know that "allegedly" by
> > itself is libellous, unless you can prove otherwise....
>
> >
> In which countries is it true that "allegedly" implies disbelief?
In all with democracies and libel laws. It is supposed to a statement
of guilty until proven innocent. But the effect is nowadays the
opposite of the intended. You know the police will not charge someone
unless they have a good case and better proof (in most cases anyway),
so when you read in the paper that someone has "allegedly" done
something, you're only too ready to believe that he is guilty, absent
only the formality of sentence. Mind you, there are some places with
legal systems so rotten, or with hangovers of Napoleonic legal
systems, like Italy, where until 1988 there wasn't a jury, the
investigating magistrate also heard and decided the case, often by
himself, and the accused didn't even have the right to question
witnesses... in such places, even a generation after reform, older
people still assume that if you are brought to court you are guilty
and the sentence is only a formality.
> "Reportedly" would be a better term for an event that has not been
> independently confirmed and where the author is not trying to imply
> doubt as to the authenticity of the event.
Yes, but how many reporters do you know? I know a lot of newspapermen
but reporters are a dying breed. Everyone who works for a paper these
days is permitted to let personal opinion colour the report, and
editors are more arrogant than ever, sports editors most of all.
> For example, "Mr. Sherman
> reportedly rode his bicycle 20 km in one hour, obtaining a maximum
> downhill speed of 40 km per hour on the journey."
Modern style is more like this under a big toothy pic: "I was
travelling at 250kph when my pedal bike started breaking up. I was
comfortable in my Recaro seat and not frightened at all."
Here we go again! LOL.
> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> "And never forget, life ultimately makes failures of all people."
> - A. Derleth
Andre Jute
Infinitely curious
Tom Sherman
> On Jan 28, 12:43 pm, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> "Reportedly" would be a better term for an event that has not been
>> independently confirmed and where the author is not trying to imply
>> doubt as to the authenticity of the event.
>
> Yes, but how many reporters do you know? I know a lot of newspapermen
> but reporters are a dying breed. Everyone who works for a paper these
> days is permitted to let personal opinion colour the report, and
>
I was considering the preparation of deliverables, where one does not
want to state as fact that which one has not determined; but also where
one does NOT want to imply the accusation of falsehood. If you imply
clients are lying, they rapidly become former clients.
datakoll
so why not focus the energy wasted on typing drivel into RBT into
positive achievement?
Tom Sherman
> so why not focus the energy wasted on typing drivel into RBT into
> positive achievement?
>
Here is some of my waste product:
<http://www.milorganite.com/homeowners/products.cfm>.
Andre Jute
made no attempt to answer it. We shall take that as Krygowski's
admission that he is a false accuser and lying scum. -- Andre Jute
On Jan 27, 11:45 pm, Andre Jute <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I rode a bike towed to 105mph behind truck down a hill. Carl Fogel
> claims I lied about it, and his bumbuddy Frank Krygowski is now
> clumsily trying to make my little thrill appear so difficult that one
> would have to be superman to perform it. In the process Krygowski lies
> and exaggerates and puts words I never spoke into my mouth. Unlike the
> Fogel-Krygowski scum, I don't make vague allegations, I nail the liars
> down with their own words. Stick with me and enjoy the ride.
>
> The fairminded might wish to know that I have built cars from the
> ground up and tested them at speeds very much in excess of 100kph, and
> that I wrote a standard handbook about it (Andre Jute: Designing and
> Constructing Special Cars, published in London by Batsford, in Boston
> by Bentley, plus several specialist book club editions, as well as the
> usual translations if your own language isn't English). There are
> substantial chapters about aerodynamics and the more mechanical
> problems of building prototypes.
>
> Now let's see the problems Krygowski in his blundering way wants you
> to believe stymied me:
>
datakoll
FILTH
Dan...@gmail.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
I've always found it entertaining to see a man (or boy) standing
alone, speaking of "we".
By the way, your sig suggests zero tolerance for yourself. Perhaps
you could find a nearby bridge?
datakoll
SYNAPTIC OCCLUSION
Bill Sornson
> FILTH
SLIME
Bill Sornson
> On Jan 29, 2:31 am, Andre Jute <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> This post has no been up for over 30 hours yet Frank Krygowski has
>> made no attempt to answer it. We shall take that as Krygowski's
>> admission that he is a false accuser and lying scum. -- Andre Jute
{SNIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!}
> I've always found it entertaining to see a man (or boy) standing
> alone, speaking of "we".
I've never found it entertaining to see a man (or dolt) leave 11 KBs' worth
of old text intact just to add an oh-so-vital insult -- usually to someone
he (or the dolt) doesn't even know.
> By the way, your sig suggests zero tolerance for yourself. Perhaps
> you could find a nearby bridge?
Ooh, good one.
BS
Bill Sornson
> SYNAPTIC OCCLUSION
NONSPECIFIC ABDOMINAL STRAIN
Werehatrack
<sunset...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> may have said:
>datakoll aka gene daniels wrote:
>> so why not focus the energy wasted on typing drivel into RBT into
>> positive achievement?
>>
>Because we are stressed out from overwork, and need to vent on Usenet?
>
>Here is some of my waste product:
><http://www.milorganite.com/homeowners/products.cfm>.
But you posted a link to that which makes things grow, though not in a
personal manner.
Presumably you have seen the article expounding upon the evolution of
the message as it makes its way up from the bottom of the company to
the top...
--
My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.
Tom Sherman
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:39:53 -0600, Tom Sherman
> <sunset...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> may have said:
>
>> datakoll aka gene daniels wrote:
>>> so why not focus the energy wasted on typing drivel into RBT into
>>> positive achievement?
>>>
>> Because we are stressed out from overwork, and need to vent on Usenet?
>>
>> Here is some of my waste product:
>> <http://www.milorganite.com/homeowners/products.cfm>.
>
> But you posted a link to that which makes things grow, though not in a
>
When I flush, what goes down the toilet drain is used to make Milorganite.
datakoll
YEAH AND NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO USED MOTOR OIL OR HEAVY METAL IN THE
JOHN
no. i didn't read it. i don't have time. but lack of interest in skunk
deordorizer formullah leads to 'EDIT SUBJECT'
I believe (in every... not likley) people who write drivel at this
level should be hung upside in the cellar until they realize there's
better way.
yawl can;t turnem off turnem on or turnem away but yawl may EDIT
SUBJECT.
Werehatrack
<sunset...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> may have said:
>Werehatrack wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:39:53 -0600, Tom Sherman
>> <sunset...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> may have said:
>>
>>> datakoll aka gene daniels wrote:
>>>> so why not focus the energy wasted on typing drivel into RBT into
>>>> positive achievement?
>>>>
>>> Because we are stressed out from overwork, and need to vent on Usenet?
>>>
>>> Here is some of my waste product:
>>> <http://www.milorganite.com/homeowners/products.cfm>.
>>
>> But you posted a link to that which makes things grow, though not in a
>> personal manner....
>>
>When I flush, what goes down the toilet drain is used to make Milorganite.
Yes, it probably is. And this is what I was referring to:
http://www.hawes.com/humor.htm#item38
HTH.