Sugino VP Spindle Size, Small Ring Problems?
Paul Kopit
I have and I don't know the bottom bracket size to use. I have
Shimano tapered 110, 113, and 118.
The ring sizes I'm going to try are 44/34 or 50/34 and a 12/27
cassette. Can I use a std cage rear derailleur? Will a road front
derailleur work?
I'm looking to setup a bicycle for several rides that are longer than
200k and have some steep sections. I prefer not using a triple
crankset. I have also used a 52/39 with a 13/32 (12/27 minus 12 plus
32 cog) but this required a long cage derailleur.
I have most of the parts. If it works as I want it to, I'll be
shopping for a 46x110 ring.
one of the six billion
I can't believe 110bcd doubles aren't popular. I love not having to use a
triple up front yet having a low gear for my long hilly rides (as well as
being able to have easy rest days up in hilly territory). Personally I
would go bigger than 44 or even 46. Don't forget about all the downhills
you get after those climbs. The 48 is perfect for me when I'm by myself.
It gets hard on fast group rides when I'm tired. My front derailleur is a
record 10 speed. The rear is a long cage daytona. I can't say from
experience but I don't think you would need the long cage unless you went
34x50 up front. Can't help you on the bb length, but having that variety
you do on hand I'm sure you could find out in about a half hour. (btw, if
you decide you don't want the sugino, let me know)
"Paul Kopit" <p.k...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Dave Mayer
bike. I also have used Sugino AT's in double mode that take the same width.
For the front derailleur, you could use a standard-drive unit such as a
early 90's bottom-pull XT or DX.
My favorite combination is 50/36 and a 13-28 in the back. For this, you'd
be better off with a road front derailleur.
"Paul Kopit" <p.k...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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dianne_1234
VP. The VP is one of Sugino's LP or SLP (Low Profile or Super Low
Profile) cranks.
After you mount the crank, consider measuring and adding it to
Sheldon's excellent database at
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/bbsize.html#sugino
"Dave Mayer" <dave...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<fFlU9.23493$H7.12...@news2.calgary.shaw.ca>...
A Muzi
"dianne_1234" <diann...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I'm pretty sure Dave's GT and AT take a different length than Paul's
> VP. The VP is one of Sugino's LP or SLP (Low Profile or Super Low
> Profile) cranks.
>
> After you mount the crank, consider measuring and adding it to
> Sheldon's excellent database at
> http://www.sheldonbrown.com/bbsize.html#sugino
Correct.
The AT (as a double) uses a 3-S spindle (37.5mm) and the VP when double uses
a 3-L (30.5)
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Paul Kopit
the bb length nailed on the first crack.
Whatever a 3L spindle is, I found out it was 116 mm long. I had a
Shimano 91 bb in a 113. I put a 1 mm space on the right side of the
bb. When I put the cranks on and changed the derailleur height, I
didn't have to change the stops at all. My best guess for 'the' bb
would be a 115. What had been in was Record crankset and bb.
The Record front derailleur shifted the non ramped 34/44 rings much
smoother than I expected it would. I'm going to test drive the beast
on tomorrows training ride. I put an 11/23 cassette on.
On 12 Jan 2003 19:28:34 -0800, diann...@yahoo.com (dianne_1234)
wrote:
den...@flyfishingspecialties.com
Thank you for the information. I plan on building up a 1980s frameset with modern gearing to use in Eroica events. The crankset will be a Sugino VP to help keep the bike period correct.
Cheers,
Dennis