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Tom Kunich

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Feb 28, 2023, 11:20:31 AM2/28/23
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My passwords on Facebook and Twitter have been changed.

And Twitter which is now owned by Elon Musk has been hacked in such a way that the new password cannot be recovered. Apparently they have no record of my phone number or a posting name. I looked these up on my password file and they are correct. So this is an assault on Musk. Twitter is dependent upon traffic numbers. So you simply kill his traffic. This must be from former Twitter employees that were laid off due to the huge overage of employees. Musk laid off 80% of his staff with absolutely no change in service and I guess that dismayed the old Twitter staff who had nothing to do.

Facebook who was facing Congressional investigations for censoring people under the unconstitutional direction was in a queasy spot and had to allow me to repair my password but my Twitter Account is still out of order.

Elon Musk has been contacted about this attack on his company.

William Crowell

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Feb 28, 2023, 2:14:43 PM2/28/23
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I quit Facebook after I learned that Zuckerberg had spent $300 million to swing the last presidential election in the Democrats' favor. But afterward I tried to get back on because I wanted to use FB Marketplace. They wouldn't let me back on, even though I appealed. So I guess I'm just not a very big FB fan.

Lou Holtman

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Feb 28, 2023, 2:20:44 PM2/28/23
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You pissed off by FB, you got out, want to come back, they didn’t let you back in an now you not a big fan? You can perfectly have a meaningful life without FB. F*ck them.

Lou

William Crowell

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Feb 28, 2023, 2:55:34 PM2/28/23
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I agree with you, Lou, but it sure would be convenient to be able to use FB Marketplace occasionally when I want to sell something. Aside from Marketplace, I would have no intention of participating in the FB site.

Tom Kunich

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Feb 28, 2023, 6:04:39 PM2/28/23
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The only reason I have a Facebook account is because it is a handy place to post pictures.

Tom Kunich

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Feb 28, 2023, 6:20:28 PM2/28/23
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Social media used to be a place that was at least slightly neutral But attacks from CCP put that to rest long ago largely by paying the owners off and posting straight propaganda. You have to consider what the IQ of people that are present day Democrats must be - For GODS SAKE, they poisoned the Ohio River and all of the states that get their water from that and WHAT has the Federal Government done? THEY GAVE THE ULKRAINE $1.2 BILLION which they promptly used to shoot drone attacks into Russia!

If you poke the blear your get the claw. Krygowski learned absolutely NOTHING from WW II. This makes it highly unlikely that he will learn anything from WW III. Flunky is going to be directly in the line of fire. Since he is a communist, isn't that going to be uncomfortable for him? Especially when his neighbors burn his house down with him inside.

funkma...@hotmail.com

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Mar 1, 2023, 5:55:19 AM3/1/23
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You quit voluntarily then they wouldn't let you back on? If you quit voluntarily there's nothing to appeal. You only need to appeal when you've been banned. There's something your not telling us.

William Crowell

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Mar 1, 2023, 9:01:03 AM3/1/23
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If there was some reason for banning me, Frank, I am not aware of what it was and they didn't tell me.

Frank Krygowski

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Mar 1, 2023, 12:13:18 PM3/1/23
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Nobody named Frank has posted in that thread. Read with care, please.

--
- Frank Krygowski

Tom Kunich

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Mar 1, 2023, 2:08:30 PM3/1/23
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Flunky flunks again. I already explained that some guy said that he could beat a kid into believing in socialism and I said that you could not and asked him if he would change his mind if I beat him. They left the guy saying he would beat the kid and suspended me for violence. Apparently as well as kissing Frank's ass so hard that Krygowski can feel Flunky's tongue in his throat, Flunky also has a faulty memory. Or more likely he likes to lie about anything and everything.

William Crowell

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Mar 1, 2023, 3:20:34 PM3/1/23
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Point taken! sorry about that.

Tom Kunich

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Mar 1, 2023, 5:15:25 PM3/1/23
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Well, I'm sure that I sound harsh when dealing with these guys but I have watched them year after year attacking me for no other reasons than I was successful and they weren't. Why should this even be a talking point with them? I worked in science for most of my life and to hear idiots saying completely incorrect things because they love to feel important is not getting past me. I have warned people about taking the vaccines. Now we have something like a 20% surplus in excess deaths. I have theorized what is happening and after being told I don't know anything it appears to be becoming a mainstream possibility supported by medical journals. There is NO way to test these things and if this theory is correct there is also no way to cure it and we could also have another AIDS-like epidemic on our hands. I had the misfortune to interview people dying from AIDS and it is NOT a pretty sight. In the final stages you have to have them in total isolation and you cannot even go in the chamber with them without an isolation suit. I cannot think of a sadder way of dying. I do not like queers but I dislike people dying needlessly more.

Remember that we are being buried in commercials from Big Pharma in claims that they can sometimes cure HIV infections and thus end AIDS. This might be true but it would be exceedingly rare. These medicines are themselves extremely powerful poisons. So it would be very unusual to cure HIV because it is exceptionally good at hiding in the body. The PCR machine I designed and programmed had to multiply samples up to a billion times to be able to detect the presence of an HIV virus. If the medication was in the proper place at the proper time in sufficient strength a cure could be possible but that is nearly impossible. Even that incompetent ass Anthony Fauci agrees with that.

Andre Jute

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Mar 1, 2023, 9:45:05 PM3/1/23
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I'd really love to hear what original thing any of these clowns ever did. The way they've abused you, Tom, for years now for being a useful lateral thinker suggests to me that they're envious of your talents. -- AJ
>

funkma...@hotmail.com

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Mar 2, 2023, 5:42:49 AM3/2/23
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lol...yeah, that's it. We're jealous of you and sparky.....HAH! Early morning laughs are good for the soul!

funkma...@hotmail.com

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Mar 2, 2023, 5:55:05 AM3/2/23
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First off, if they banned you, they would have let you know when they did it. There would have been an email sent to the address you registered the account with.

Second, they don't generally simply ban accounts. They first delete the offending post then suspend the user. Repeated violations will result in a ban. I could be wrong, but I'm not aware that they ban as the first step.

third, if you actually quit you would have gone through the 'delete account' process. There would have been several verifications that the account was being deleted, including a verification email sent to your registered email address asking you to confirm the deletion. They don't make it easy. I'm sure you would have remembered that.

I suppose it _is_ possible that you did something to raise their ire, then you simply stopped visiting facebook and didn't respond to their emails (you may have ignored any emails from facebook, or it may even have gone to your spam folder. ) I suppose it's possible they would have then banned you and you wouldn't be aware as to why. I don't believe they will respond to any subsequent inquiries as to the reason for the ban.

Should be simple enough to get around by creating a new account with a new email address - if you really wanted to participate in marketplace that is....

William Crowell

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Mar 2, 2023, 10:54:18 AM3/2/23
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"... if they banned you, they would have let you know when they did it. There would have been an email sent to the address you registered the account with." OK, Funky One, I guess you are right: I probably just quit without being banned because I was P.O.'d at Zuckerberg, but they have certainly made it clear that they don't want to let me re-join.

"third, if you actually quit you would have gone through the 'delete account' process." Yes, I did go through that process.

"I suppose it _is_ possible that you did something to raise their ire" So do you think that calling Zuckerberg a scumbag might have sent them into "irascible" mode? I guess they just don't want to hear the truth, then.

"then you simply stopped visiting facebook and didn't respond to their emails (you may have ignored any emails from facebook, or it may even have gone to your spam folder.)" Yes, that's what happened, all right.

"I don't believe they will respond to any subsequent inquiries as to the reason for the ban." That is my experience, also.
>
> Should be simple enough to get around by creating a new account with a new email address" No, I disagree. I believe that they snoop around in the cookies, etc. on your hard drive when you try to register, to prevent you from doing that. If I really wanted to get back on FB I would have to either buy another computer and do as you say (no way! too much of a PIA!), or pay a data processing professional to remove anything on the hard drive in my present computer that might offend them, because I don't really know how to do that myself.

Here's another one for you, Funky: I once had a debate with someone on the Nextdoor site (which I think is owned by Facebook, isn't it?); he got mad and reported me to the site management as a phony, non-existent user; and they removed me until I protested. They did reinstate me, and told me the reason why they had removed me. Also, you can list things for sale on Nextdoor, so I am just going to have to be satisfied with doing that rather than using Marketplace.

Tom Kunich

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Mar 2, 2023, 11:12:33 AM3/2/23
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I have a brother exactly like Flunky who says that what I was paid was an accident. And that my changing jobs between projects shows that. He simply cannot fathom the reasons that I was hired for project after project at salaries he couldn't even conceive of. And remember, he has actually seen my investment portfolio whereas as of today his fat city retirement is looking close to the edge of his expenses. He is an absolute died in the wool Democrat who claims anything that is on FOX is a lie and that Biden is doing a wonderful job as the payments on his truck which he needed because the California Democrats made it impossible for him to live in California and he moved to Reno Nevada and tries to hide the fact that he sold his partially paid for California Condo for a new custom built home in Reno where he pays no taxes and where gas is half the cost in California.

Idiots abound even in your own family.

Flunky is just stupid. Maybe he can tell us again that he is an engineer and then tell us that he never said that.

Tom Kunich

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Mar 2, 2023, 11:21:06 AM3/2/23
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Bill, do not try to re-join via the artificial intelligence on Facebook. They do give you a phone number to call and since Facebook membership is falling like a rock due to other more free speech sites being opened (MeWe and Rumble for instance) the real human on the phone will reregister you with no problem.

Because some 80,000 high tech (really just programmers) have been fired they they have decided to become criminals since the Democrats like crime. So they are interfering as much as possible with registrations for every social site.

Frank Krygowski

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Mar 2, 2023, 12:13:15 PM3/2/23
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On 3/2/2023 11:12 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
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> I have a brother ... he moved to Reno Nevada ...

So it _is_ possible for you to get out of that hellhole! You should ask
your brother's advice.

--
- Frank Krygowski

AMuzi

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Mar 2, 2023, 1:31:28 PM3/2/23
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Or ask any teenager of your acquaintance to list your items
on The Face Book for you.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


funkma...@hotmail.com

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Mar 2, 2023, 5:27:27 PM3/2/23
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On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 10:54:18 AM UTC-5, William Crowell wrote:
> "... if they banned you, they would have let you know when they did it. There would have been an email sent to the address you registered the account with." OK, Funky One, I guess you are right: I probably just quit without being banned because I was P.O.'d at Zuckerberg, but they have certainly made it clear that they don't want to let me re-join.
>
> "third, if you actually quit you would have gone through the 'delete account' process." Yes, I did go through that process.
>
> "I suppose it _is_ possible that you did something to raise their ire" So do you think that calling Zuckerberg a scumbag might have sent them into "irascible" mode? I guess they just don't want to hear the truth, then.
>
> "then you simply stopped visiting facebook and didn't respond to their emails (you may have ignored any emails from facebook, or it may even have gone to your spam folder.)" Yes, that's what happened, all right.
>
> "I don't believe they will respond to any subsequent inquiries as to the reason for the ban." That is my experience, also.
> >
> > Should be simple enough to get around by creating a new account with a new email address" No, I disagree. I believe that they snoop around in the cookies, etc. on your hard drive when you try to register, to prevent you from doing that. If I really wanted to get back on FB I would have to either buy another computer and do as you say (no way! too much of a PIA!), or pay a data processing professional to remove anything on the hard drive in my present computer that might offend them, because I don't really know how to do that myself.

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure they don't enforce bans by hardware (identifiers in your PC). If they did that it would preclude multiple users on one machine from having separate accounts. I'm willing to bet that if you registered under a different email address it would work, but as I said I could be wrong.

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> Here's another one for you, Funky: I once had a debate with someone on the Nextdoor site (which I think is owned by Facebook, isn't it?)

I don't know, I've never heard of Nextdoor.

> he got mad and reported me to the site management as a phony, non-existent user; and they removed me until I protested. They did reinstate me, and told me the reason why they had removed me. Also, you can list things for sale on Nextdoor, so I am just going to have to be satisfied with doing that rather than using Marketplace.

Seems like they're a bit reactionary at Nextdoor. It should have been easy enough for them to verify your identity without a ban. But as Lou wisely quipped "you can perfectly have a meaningful life without FB".

funkma...@hotmail.com

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Mar 2, 2023, 5:35:22 PM3/2/23
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So your brother sold his condo, used the proceeds to build a new custom home in Reno with lower taxes and cheaper gas, yet you insist on living in a Democrat hell surround by illegal immigrants living three families to a home with gunfire every night - but _he's_ the idiot?

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> Flunky is just stupid. Maybe he can tell us again that he is an engineer

I am an engineer,

> and then tell us that he never said that.

I never said I wasn't one. That's a fiction you've created. Speaking of stupid - tell us again how you fixed your shifting problems bu buying special campagnolo non-stretch shifting cables?

Jeff Liebermann

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Mar 2, 2023, 6:51:18 PM3/2/23
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On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 07:54:16 -0800 (PST), William Crowell
<retrog...@gmail.com> wrote:

>I once had a debate with someone on the Nextdoor site (which I think is owned by Facebook, isn't it?)

No. Facebook does not own nextdoor.com.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nextdoor>

Facebook cloned Nextdoor with Facebook Neighborhoods, but gave up in
Oct 2022, mostly because it was redundant. Neighborhoods created
Facebook Groups instead of joining Neighborhoods:

Facebook Groups:
<https://www.facebook.com/groups/feed/>

"Meta is shutting down Facebook 'Neighborhoods' for local communities"
<https://www.engadget.com/facebook-nextdoor-neighborhoods-dhhutdown-044842288.html>
"The Nextdoor-like product was never even widely released."

--
Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Tom Kunich

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Mar 4, 2023, 11:21:10 AM3/4/23
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I went in to my password storage and they were all listed and were as I remembered them to be. So why have I had to reset my Facebook password three times in the last three days? And I still haven't been able to recover my Twitter account.

funkma...@hotmail.com

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Mar 4, 2023, 12:46:02 PM3/4/23
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Because you're an idiot who can't figure out how to make it work.

> And I still haven't been able to recover my Twitter account.

And the twitter-verse is glad of it.

Tom Kunich

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Mar 4, 2023, 12:59:53 PM3/4/23
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I actually invented a sign-on name that Twitter accepted and allowed me to ask for my account to let me enter a new password. They actually returned an email that said that IF I had signed in with my phone number that I could get to a place that would allow me to reset the password and sign-on name. But there was no information on what to do if I had registered on Twitter with an email.

Then since I was successful with that sign-on name I tried Twitter again using that account name and Twitter said there was no such account.

When I attempted to leave a message for Elon about this on Facebook, they don't post the message.

I think that Lou is lucky to live where he can rely on a government and media not to politicize absolutely everything.

Frank Krygowski

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Mar 4, 2023, 1:29:03 PM3/4/23
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On 3/4/2023 12:59 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
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>
> When I attempted to leave a message for Elon about this ...

I'm sure Elon would be just as eager to hear from you as Yellen and
Fauci were. :-)

--
- Frank Krygowski

Jeff Liebermann

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Mar 4, 2023, 5:56:42 PM3/4/23
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On Sat, 4 Mar 2023 09:59:51 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>I actually invented a sign-on name that Twitter accepted
>and allowed me to ask for my account to let me enter a
>new password. They actually returned an email that said
>that IF I had signed in with my phone number that I
>could get to a place that would allow me to reset the
>password and sign-on name. But there was no information
>on what to do if I had registered on Twitter with an email.
>
>Then since I was successful with that sign-on name I tried
>Twitter again using that account name and Twitter said
>there was no such account.

"How to reset a lost or forgotten password"
<https://help.twitter.com/en/managing-your-account/forgotten-or-lost-password-reset>
Follow the instructions and don't try to invent your own.

Note that Twitter allows each user to have 5 accounts.
"How to Manage Multiple Twitter Accounts Effectively"
<https://recurpost.com/blog/manage-multiple-twitter-accounts/>
However, that assumes you have at least one working account.

<https://help.twitter.com/en/managing-your-account/cant-confirm-my-email-address>
Twitter probably gives you a limited amount of time to confirm the
creation of a new account. I couldn't find a specific time limit.

Tom, you make a splendid professional victim. Have you considered
dropping the paranoia act and simply fixing the problem which you
probably created for yourself? Since you ignore suggestions and only
ask for confirmation of your theories, asking for computer help in RBT
is likely a waste of everyone's time.

Roger Meriman

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Mar 4, 2023, 6:01:27 PM3/4/23
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It’s possible it’s due to his brain injury ie concussion or what ever
happened, certainly being paranoid is one of those things some of us become
not all by any means.

Or he could of always been so!

Roger Merriman

Tom Kunich

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Mar 4, 2023, 7:51:39 PM3/4/23
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On a very good day, Leiberman is a full time moron. He has helped me so much that he pointed out a page on Twitter that I visited several times in an attempt to get my account working.

Why I'm so paranoid that Twitter has an entire list of things like "I never received a confirmation email from Twitter", "I got the email, but the button won’t work" and "Nothing is working"

Do you suppose they put subjects like that on their "help" page because everyone in the world is paranoid? As for "Contact us" I filled out their sheet which is what caused the described problems. Again since Twitter sent me an email that said that they would get back to me in a couple of days and followed that seconds later with another email that again I completely described perhaps you could explain to me how I am paranoid and that jackass that has simply never been able to hold a job and doesn't know how to do anything. You have to realize that he was laid off within days of being hired for a reason.

Let's remember that this is the guy who called my yacht club to find out if I was a life member because they don't list life members on their application for membership and said that my membership card "looked funny" even though he had never seen a club membership card in his life.

Leiberman is just a poor sick little man trying to recover from serious cancer surgery. He has himself never been a serious bicyclist. God only knows what he is doing on this page but considering everything else he has done or not done and lied about, perhaps you might try putting the shoe on the other foot and seeing the mental problems of a ne'r-do-well.

Is it paranoid that I can go to the page on my computer that contains all of the automatic sign-ins and they have not changed and they are all as I left them and yet none of them work unless I go through the trouble of updating to a new password. I deal with hundreds of sites between riding almost 1,000 miles this wet, cold, and rainy year.

I suspect that the latest Microsoft Update is what caused most of the problems but after Musk bought Twitter he fired 8,000 people. Some of which would have knowledge of the software and every reason to try and destroy the company since reduced sign-on's means reduced advertising income. Why would they think that I had registered with my phone number since they have ALL of my data under my email address? And why would they have no method to recover a password if you registered under an email address? Originally I registered with Twitter when they started in 2006 or some-such. It was a very good site until it was taken over by the Woke. Musk's release of the "Twitter Files" showed that they had taken steps to mass censor any conservative voice. I was a loud one and they took steps to ban me from their site. The reason they used was exactly opposite they would have used if indeed as they said I was being violent since I was being non-violent and the man who was being violent was not banned. But he was woke.

I haven't seen most of Leiberman's postings since I put him in the kill file. I took Slocumb out long enough to remember why I kill filed him. But can you just wonder why Leiberman said that Gavin Loathsome ended the pandemic emergency without any medical advice at all? Just how far do you think that he can stretch the truth? I'm afraid that he is simply a mentally disabled person. As I pointed out elsewhere, Leiberman was vaccinated and vaccines can and have doubled deaths due to dementia of all sorts.

In any case if I were you I wouldn't pay any attention to his bullshit.

Jeff Liebermann

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Mar 4, 2023, 8:03:23 PM3/4/23
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On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 23:01:24 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
wrote:

>It’s possible it’s due to his brain injury ie concussion or what ever
>happened, certainly being paranoid is one of those things some of us become
>not all by any means.
>
>Or he could of always been so!

There seems to be a question as to when Tom had his accident and
concussion.

07/22/2016
"Danger From Carbon Fiber Bikes"
<https://www.twospoke.com/threads/danger-from-carbon-fiber-bikes.17594/>
"On the way back to Castro Valley, my friend Tom Kunich (who was also
riding a full carbon fiber Colnago C-40) crashed on the downhill."
(July 5, 2016). Tom may have been banned from TwoSpoke forum(????).
Identical article appears in:
<https://www.cyclingforums.com/threads/danger-from-carbon-fiber-bikes.453355/>
<https://www.bikeforums.net/general-cycling-discussion/1073471-danger-carbon-fiber-bikes.html>
<https://medium.com/@cyclintom/on-dec-18-2009-i-was-riding-my-bicycle-with-a-group-and-we-were-coming-off-of-a-bicycle-trail-9f9d582a9b42>
(Dec 18, 2009).
<https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:ugcPost:6912346811772932096/>
"I got a severe concussion in 2010 that led to a type of seizures that
I didn't remember afterwards. This wasn't discovered and treated
properly until 2012 after 4 car wrecks luckily without any injuries."

The earliest date mentioned for the accident was Dec 18, 2009. RBT on
Google Groups shows postings by Tom prior to Dec 18, 2009:
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/search?q=author%3ATom+author%3AKunich+before%3A2009-12-18>
From reading a few of Tom's postings both before and after Dec 18,
2009, I don't see any change in attitude or creative writing.

There were some other dates claimed, but I haven't had time to find
and document them. From the above, the concussion occurred somewhere
between Dec 2009 and July 2016. This makes me wonder if there
actually had been a concussion and why no photo of the broken CF fork.
There's no proof that Tom did or did not have an accident, but the
questionable chronology makes me very suspicious.

Frank Krygowski

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Mar 4, 2023, 8:18:32 PM3/4/23
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On 3/4/2023 6:01 PM, Roger Meriman wrote:
> Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
>>
>> Tom, you make a splendid professional victim. Have you considered
>> dropping the paranoia act and simply fixing the problem which you
>> probably created for yourself? Since you ignore suggestions and only
>> ask for confirmation of your theories, asking for computer help in RBT
>> is likely a waste of everyone's time.
>>
>>
> It’s possible it’s due to his brain injury ie concussion or what ever
> happened, certainly being paranoid is one of those things some of us become
> not all by any means.
>
> Or he could of always been so!

Tom and I have been in this forum for a long, long time. I don't think
he was ever different than he is now.

--
- Frank Krygowski

Roger Meriman

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Mar 5, 2023, 6:14:17 AM3/5/23
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I suspect so, that’s not to say that it didn’t happen as well sometimes
these things are easy to hide particularly online.

Roger Merriman

Catrike Rider

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Mar 5, 2023, 6:23:50 AM3/5/23
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I suspect that you've always been as superficial as you are now.

Roger Meriman

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Mar 5, 2023, 6:26:13 AM3/5/23
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Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 23:01:24 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It’s possible it’s due to his brain injury ie concussion or what ever
>> happened, certainly being paranoid is one of those things some of us become
>> not all by any means.
>>
>> Or he could of always been so!
>
> There seems to be a question as to when Tom had his accident and
> concussion.
>
> 07/22/2016
> "Danger From Carbon Fiber Bikes"
> <https://www.twospoke.com/threads/danger-from-carbon-fiber-bikes.17594/>
> "On the way back to Castro Valley, my friend Tom Kunich (who was also
> riding a full carbon fiber Colnago C-40) crashed on the downhill."
> (July 5, 2016). Tom may have been banned from TwoSpoke forum(????).
> Identical article appears in:
> <https://www.cyclingforums.com/threads/danger-from-carbon-fiber-bikes.453355/>
> <https://www.bikeforums.net/general-cycling-discussion/1073471-danger-carbon-fiber-bikes.html>
> <https://medium.com/@cyclintom/on-dec-18-2009-i-was-riding-my-bicycle-with-a-group-and-we-were-coming-off-of-a-bicycle-trail-9f9d582a9b42>
> (Dec 18, 2009).
> <https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:ugcPost:6912346811772932096/>
> "I got a severe concussion in 2010 that led to a type of seizures that
> I didn't remember afterwards. This wasn't discovered and treated
> properly until 2012 after 4 car wrecks luckily without any injuries."
>
It’s suitably vague concussion is generally described as mild brain injury,
not heard any medical bods grade it.

Generally in terms of grading they use the Glasgow coma score and how long
post injury amnesia lasts.

But while these do generally correlate with outcomes at a population level
there is quite a variability should note that concussion has no physical
thing that can be seen on a scan ie no bleed internally etc, so working out
how well someone will recover is difficult and under research due to its
repeated exposure to sports and military folks.

> The earliest date mentioned for the accident was Dec 18, 2009. RBT on
> Google Groups shows postings by Tom prior to Dec 18, 2009:
> <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/search?q=author%3ATom+author%3AKunich+before%3A2009-12-18>
> From reading a few of Tom's postings both before and after Dec 18,
> 2009, I don't see any change in attitude or creative writing.
>
> There were some other dates claimed, but I haven't had time to find
> and document them. From the above, the concussion occurred somewhere
> between Dec 2009 and July 2016. This makes me wonder if there
> actually had been a concussion and why no photo of the broken CF fork.
> There's no proof that Tom did or did not have an accident, but the
> questionable chronology makes me very suspicious.
>
Doesn’t require much force to cause a concussion if one is unlucky even non
impact to head but jolt from impact it’s self.

If he is on anti epilepsy medication which he claims that would correlate
as epilepsy after any head trauma is fairly common.

Roger Merriman


funkma...@hotmail.com

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Let's just say tommy's been known to make it up as he goes along....

Frank Krygowski

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On 3/5/2023 6:26 AM, Roger Meriman wrote:
>
>>
> Doesn’t require much force to cause a concussion if one is unlucky even non
> impact to head but jolt from impact it’s self.

I've related this before, but I was told about a woman who got a
concussion while attending a local symphony concert. During intermission
she was standing near the stage talking with friends. She somehow lost
her balance and fell hard to the floor, landing on her bum. Her upper
body never even touched the floor.

But she was concussed to the degree that she had no idea where she was
or how she got there. An ambulance took her to the ER. I never heard
whether there were any long term consequences.

--
- Frank Krygowski

Tom Kunich

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Mar 5, 2023, 11:45:40 AM3/5/23
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It was damage to an area of the brain that can be also damaged by epilepsy. They both cause a form of seizures for which you have no memory and they are both completely controlled by medication though the side effects are no feeling in the front half of your feet and lose of short term memory. This shows as the inability to remember words. This makes writing clear sentences a little difficult.

But there was probably more damage to Krygowski's brain from his aging. Watch his reactions to perceived insults. The truism "Those who can, do. And those who can't, teach." drives him absolutely wild. Yet the truth remains that teaching in a classroom setting is nonproductive and MOST of the non-degreed engineers I worked with every day were far more competent and productive. Also watch his reaction to my explanation of the CDC statistics page "Excess Deaths from Covid-19". He says I misunderstand or mislead people but he himself can't provide a single counter argument. That is a sign of progressive dementia.

Or you can believe Flunky's claim that he is an engineer and that he can answer any posting instantly because he is also a manager sitting at a desk. But then he claims he never said such a thing. So what is the explanation of how he instantly posts to anything?

What would bring you to believe that the neurologist is wrong and that my seizures aren't under complete control and with time I have returned to normal capacity? Also, I have been a loud voice about the dangers of carbon fiber bikes. This was opposed so strongly by the main groups of riders that they actually convinced me that well build CF bikes were safe. But then after riding extremely well built CF bike and finding no advantage to them, and then seeing ever more common https://duckduckgo.com/?q=carbon+fiber+bicycles+breaking&t=chromentp&atb=v366-6&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2FojrNot7_wd0%2Fmaxresdefault.jpg

I've retreated again to steel. This does NOT sit well with play racers who wish to believe that they can "beat" others to the top of the hill with a superlight, super dangerous carbon fiber bike. Their crying that I am wrong does not offend me in the least because sooner or later it will occur to them. I can only hope that their injuries are minor.

Roger Meriman

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Mar 5, 2023, 11:51:34 AM3/5/23
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Does happen plus other non trauma related ie infections or viral and so on.

Being concussed will cause damage though possibly not to be detected by
either the person or via diagnostic imaging or tests. But repeated will
raise your risk of dementia see football both American and uk for prime
examples.

And even cycling particularly road stage races I’ve seen folks carry on,
who I’m sure wanted to (it’s one of the symptoms of brain injury to attempt
to carry on I’m fine etc!) when they needed to be stopped feels like
cycling is rather pretending it’s not there look at Rugby for examples of
at least attempting to mitigate the risks for players long term.

In both rugby and cycling had players/riders who can’t remember the
match/last 100km and so on.

Roger Merriman

Roger Meriman

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Epilepsy is not linked to any part of the brain, with a brain injury it’s
generally linked to damage where every that may be.

But equally some folks just develop it, some for reasons others for
unknown.

And as folks age or rather dementia is high risk.

For most (not all) forms folks will not remember though some have fairly
vivid Aura so will be aware they are going to get a seizure or not as the
case may be.

As with most stuff to do with the brain it’s hugely unknown and under
researched.

Is linked to migraines or there are parallels I should say.
Unless at the pointy end of a high end race I suspect that frame material
is immaterial.

Roger Merriman


Tom Kunich

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Considering your posting i went to the Mayo Clinic website and looked up epilepsy. It appears that they describe my symptoms pretty accurately. I have a deja vu episode which is uncomfortable followed by a slight staring bout. It only lasts about 5-10 seconds and only when I get out of sync with my medications. And since I am on enough of the medication in any case I never lose any control. It is simply uncomfortable.

I wish my neurologist had simply said epilepsy instead of epilepsy-like meaning it wasn't understood. The Mayo site said that this is often caused by head injuries.

Thanks for mentioning it.

Roger Meriman

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They normally don’t call it Epilepsy until it’s formally diagnosed as well
lots of folks in fact all are likely to have some seizures at some point in
one’s lifetime. Young children are fairly prone to it, particularly if
feverish.

Roger Merriman

Jeff Liebermann

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On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 13:10:49 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Considering your posting i went to the Mayo Clinic website and looked up epilepsy. It appears that they describe my symptoms pretty accurately. I have a deja vu episode which is uncomfortable followed by a slight staring bout. It only lasts about 5-10 seconds and only when I get out of sync with my medications. And since I am on enough of the medication in any case I never lose any control. It is simply uncomfortable.
>
>I wish my neurologist had simply said epilepsy instead of epilepsy-like meaning it wasn't understood. The Mayo site said that this is often caused by head injuries.

Has your neurologist mentioned anything about dissociative seizures?
It seems like a better fit than epilepsy.

"The difference between epileptic and dissociative seizures"
<https://www.epsyhealth.com/seizure-epilepsy-blog/the-difference-between-epileptic-and-dissociative-seizures>
"...epileptic seizure is strictly defined as: "a sudden alteration of
behavior due to a temporary change in the electrical functioning of
the brain"."

I vaguely recall that you mentioned that an EEG didn't show anything
unusal. Therefore, it might not be epilepsy.

"What’s the Difference Between Epileptic and Non-Epileptic Seizures?"
<https://share.upmc.com/2015/05/difference-between-epileptic-non-epileptic-seizures/>
"Mental illness, stress, or emotional trauma can also trigger
seizures."

Note that the above article lists brain injury as a possible cause for
both epileptic and non-epileptic seizures.

Tom Kunich

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Well, the Mayo Clinic description of the symptoms are both spot on but also gave me a name for what is occurring if I get my medication out of sync - Deja Vu. I am going to a very good neurologist and since the cause and the symptoms all match and the medication for it has the same effect how could you say it wasn't epilepsy but only something like it?

Roger Meriman

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I didn’t say it wasn’t but you did or rather that your Doctor had said it’s
Epilepsy like, I’ve noted that normally someone has to have number of
seizures before they will diagnose, either way.

I’d assume yes but well if sufficient interested you’d need to either check
your medical notes or confirm with said doctor, next time you see them.

Roger Merriman

Tom Kunich

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I've decided that he calls it Epilepsy-like is because if he calls it epilepsy he is required to pull my drivers license.

Roger Meriman

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That is what I suspected though in uk if it’s controlled with certain time
frames can still drive depending on the type etc.

Roger Merriman

Tom Kunich

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Here as well but it must be a royal pain in the ass because when my license was fist pulled because I didn't know I was having seizures, it took over a year to get it back. And that despite it plainly being controlled and that being proven with 8,000 miles on the bike and 180,000 feet of climbing without an incident.
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