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Ronko

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Jan 26, 2010, 2:28:40 AM1/26/10
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The square tapers bottom brackets, specifically Chorus and Record,
for approximate years 2000-2006 (10sp alloy) are interchangeable I
assume for either Chorus or Record cranks? And both have
rebuildable bearings? And finally do the Record and Chorus BB have
the same bearings or is there a difference?

thanks!

Lou Holtman

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Jan 26, 2010, 7:16:43 AM1/26/10
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On 26 jan, 08:28, Ronko <ronkreu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The square tapers bottom brackets, specifically Chorus and Record,
> for approximate years 2000-2006 (10sp alloy) are interchangeable I
> assume for either Chorus or Record cranks?

Yes.

> And both have
> rebuildable bearings?

No. They use cartidge bearing which are not supposed te be replaced. I
did it once, I don't do it again. I replace the whole unit next time.


> And finally do the Record and Chorus BB have
> the same bearings or is there a difference?

No they are the same.

Lou


Ronko

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Jan 26, 2010, 12:48:04 PM1/26/10
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In article <285993d5-41d3-4357-9beb-
2393f1...@a12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
lou.h...@gmail.com says...
Thanks. What were the issues about replacing the bearings? Had to be
pressed off and on?

Ningi

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Jan 26, 2010, 1:27:10 PM1/26/10
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On 26/01/2010 12:16, Lou Holtman wrote:
> On 26 jan, 08:28, Ronko<ronkreu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The square tapers bottom brackets, specifically Chorus and Record,
>> for approximate years 2000-2006 (10sp alloy) are interchangeable I
>> assume for either Chorus or Record cranks?
>
> Yes.
>
>> And both have
>> rebuildable bearings?
>
> No. They use cartidge bearing which are not supposed te be replaced. I
> did it once, I don't do it again. I replace the whole unit next time.
>

I have replaced a single bearing on both a Record and a Chorus BB. It
wasn't the easiest job as I didn't have a good bearing puller but
spending �15 for a new bearing rather than �90 for a new BB seemed
worthwhile.

>> And finally do the Record and Chorus BB have
>> the same bearings or is there a difference?
>
> No they are the same.
>

The same skf bearings in both.

Pete

thirty-six

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Jan 26, 2010, 1:46:18 PM1/26/10
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On 26 Jan, 17:48, Ronko <ronkreu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <285993d5-41d3-4357-9beb-
> 2393f1712...@a12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
> lou.holt...@gmail.com says...

>
>
>
> >On 26 jan, 08:28, Ronko <ronkreu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> The square tapers bottom brackets, specifically Chorus and
> Record,
> >> for approximate years 2000-2006 (10sp alloy) are
> interchangeable I
> >> assume for either Chorus or Record cranks?
>
> >Yes.
>
> >> And both have
> >> rebuildable bearings?
>
> >No. They use cartidge bearing which are not supposed te be
> replaced. I
> >did it once, I don't do it again. I replace the whole unit next time.
>
> >> And finally do the Record and Chorus BB have
> >> the same bearings or is there a difference?
>
> >No they are the same.
>
> >Lou
>
> Thanks. What were the issues about replacing the bearings? Had to be
> pressed off and on?

Campag seem to claim there may be problems of fatigue and so the axle
'warrants' replacement.

Lou Holtman

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Jan 26, 2010, 2:24:53 PM1/26/10
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Op 26-1-2010 18:48, Ronko schreef:


It's difficult to get the puller behind the bearings. I had to take it
to work. Grrrr.. On one side there is a pressfit lockring. Once removed
I didn't trust the pressfit anymore so I loctite the bearings. I had to
take to work again. Grrrr...
It's no rocket science but for me it is a matter of economics. I had to
pay about 37 euro for three new cartridge bearings. I have a new Chorus
unit for 60 euro. 23 euro is not worth it for me if I have to spend 1
hour of work. The unit lasts 25000 km.

Lou

thirty-six

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Jan 26, 2010, 2:53:32 PM1/26/10
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On 26 Jan, 19:24, Lou Holtman <lhollaatditmaar...@planet.nl> wrote:
> Op 26-1-2010 18:48, Ronko schreef:
>
>
>
> > In article<285993d5-41d3-4357-9beb-
> > 2393f1712...@a12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
> > lou.holt...@gmail.com says...

probably easier the second time because you know what you are up
against.

Ningi

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Jan 26, 2010, 2:57:14 PM1/26/10
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If all 3 bearings had gone I'd also get a new BB. One mine only one had
gone so the economics made more sense.

Pete

Ronko

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Jan 26, 2010, 7:17:47 PM1/26/10
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In article <2uG7n.31981$Ym4....@text.news.virginmedia.com>,
ni...@EGGSANDSPAMblueyonder.co.uk says...
Thanks!

Qui si parla Campagnolo

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Jan 27, 2010, 9:02:28 AM1/27/10
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Same bearings, both 102mm, different, thin walled, welded in the
center spindle for Record. Yes, you canreplace bearings but it ain't
easy.

Qui si parla Campagnolo

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Jan 27, 2010, 9:04:46 AM1/27/10
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On Jan 26, 10:48 am, Ronko <ronkreu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <285993d5-41d3-4357-9beb-
> 2393f1712...@a12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
> lou.holt...@gmail.com says...

>
>
>
> >On 26 jan, 08:28, Ronko <ronkreu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> The square tapers bottom brackets, specifically Chorus and
> Record,
> >> for approximate years 2000-2006 (10sp alloy) are
> interchangeable I
> >> assume for either Chorus or Record cranks?
>
> >Yes.
>
> >> And both have
> >> rebuildable bearings?
>
> >No. They use cartidge bearing which are not supposed te be
> replaced. I
> >did it once, I don't do it again. I replace the whole unit next time.
>
> >> And finally do the Record and Chorus BB have
> >> the same bearings or is there a difference?
>
> >No they are the same.
>
> >Lou
>
> Thanks. What were the issues about replacing the bearings? Had to be
> pressed off and on?

Easy to get off, even the clip on the LH side. It's really hard to get
the retaining ring off the RH side w/o deforming it so when you put it
back it may interfere with the bearings causing a draggy bearing. I'm
batting about 50% when it comes to successfully changing these.

thirty-six

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Jan 27, 2010, 10:40:38 AM1/27/10
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On 27 Jan, 14:04, Qui si parla Campagnolo <pe...@vecchios.com> wrote:

> > Thanks. What were the issues about replacing the bearings? Had to be
> > pressed off and on?
>
> Easy to get off, even the clip on the LH side. It's really hard to get
> the retaining ring off the RH side w/o deforming it so when you put it
> back it may interfere with the bearings causing a draggy bearing. I'm
> batting about 50% when it comes to successfully changing these.

Do the replacements ever get to be replaced or does the spindle break
first?

Lou Holtman

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Jan 27, 2010, 2:57:09 PM1/27/10
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Op 27-1-2010 16:40, thirty-six schreef:

Never broke a spindle. Shimano nor Campagnolo. Only use Ultegra/XT and
up or Chorus and up.

Lou

thirty-six

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Jan 27, 2010, 3:45:28 PM1/27/10
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So what is the count for repeated bearing replacement on a single
axle?

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