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Tom Kunich
Jun 2, 2023, 12:34:00 PM6/2/23
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I am told that Slocomb wants some slave to own but cannot find them. Thailand LAWS say that slavery was abolished except for children and hence 20% of the children in Thailand are working under duress in various industries rather than being educated.
Even Obama made it a subject of one of his speeches.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/slavery+thailand
Even Obama made it a subject of one of his speeches.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/slavery+thailand
Tom Kunich
Jun 2, 2023, 12:39:53 PM6/2/23
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Tom Kunich
Jun 2, 2023, 1:50:26 PM6/2/23
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John B.
Jun 2, 2023, 7:03:55 PM6/2/23
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On Fri, 2 Jun 2023 09:33:58 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I am told that Slocomb wants some slave to own but cannot find them. Thailand LAWS say that slavery was abolished except for children and hence 20% of the children in Thailand are working under duress in various industries rather than being educated.
Strange isn't it that slavery in Thailand was abolish by King
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I am told that Slocomb wants some slave to own but cannot find them. Thailand LAWS say that slavery was abolished except for children and hence 20% of the children in Thailand are working under duress in various industries rather than being educated.
Chulalongkorn in about 1874. As for slavery for children... can you
provide some evidence?
>
>Even Obama made it a subject of one of his speeches.
>
As for OB-1 what he actually said was, " the scourge of human
>Even Obama made it a subject of one of his speeches.
>
trafficking -- modern slavery. Thailand is also taking new steps to
address this challenge, including measures to better protect and
empower women and girls"
>https://www.theguardian.com/world/slavery+thailand
Aup, a 6 year old article describing a crime that had been detected
and arrests made ... in the U.S.
But so far you haven't told me about slavery in Thailand. Which is
what the original discussion was about. But then I suppose when you
don't know what you are talking about it is easy to just, "go slip
sliding away"
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Cheers,
John B.
John B.
Jun 2, 2023, 7:21:14 PM6/2/23
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On Fri, 2 Jun 2023 09:39:51 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, that last reference is either written by someone that doesn't
know what they are talking about or a liar like you. It states the
"prostitution is legal within Thailand" which isn't true, just like
most of your statements.
If you weren't a complete buffoon you could have looked it up. The
current law of 1996 (I believe) states that ""Sexual intercourse, or
any other act, or the commission of any other act in order to gratify
the sexual desire of another person in a promiscuous manner in return
for money or any other benefit, irrespective of whether the person who
accepts the act and the person who commits the act are of the same sex
or not."
As for child prostitution:
Section 8 penalizes those who sexually abuse children under the age of
15 years with a prison term of two to six years and a fine of up to
120,000 baht. For child victims between the ages of 15 and 18 years,
the prison term is one to three years, and the fine is up to 60,000
baht.
Note: a 120,000 baht fine is equal to 400 days salary here in Thailand
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Cheers,
John B.
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
know what they are talking about or a liar like you. It states the
"prostitution is legal within Thailand" which isn't true, just like
most of your statements.
If you weren't a complete buffoon you could have looked it up. The
current law of 1996 (I believe) states that ""Sexual intercourse, or
any other act, or the commission of any other act in order to gratify
the sexual desire of another person in a promiscuous manner in return
for money or any other benefit, irrespective of whether the person who
accepts the act and the person who commits the act are of the same sex
or not."
As for child prostitution:
Section 8 penalizes those who sexually abuse children under the age of
15 years with a prison term of two to six years and a fine of up to
120,000 baht. For child victims between the ages of 15 and 18 years,
the prison term is one to three years, and the fine is up to 60,000
baht.
Note: a 120,000 baht fine is equal to 400 days salary here in Thailand
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Cheers,
John B.
John B.
Jun 2, 2023, 7:34:01 PM6/2/23
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On Fri, 2 Jun 2023 10:50:24 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 9:39:53?AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
statements.
But, I'm still waiting for some evidence that your "Thailand LAWS say
that slavery was abolished except for children" is even faintly true.
There is, for example the “Child Protection Act, B.E. 2546”.
https://www.thailandlawonline.com/thai-family-and-marriage-law/child-protection-act
Which outlines in great detail how children may be treated.
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Cheers,
John B.
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 9:39:53?AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 9:34:00?AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> > I am told that Slocomb wants some slave to own but cannot find them. Thailand LAWS say that slavery was abolished except for children and hence 20% of the children in Thailand are working under duress in various industries rather than being educated.
>> >
>> > Even Obama made it a subject of one of his speeches.
>> >
>> > https://www.theguardian.com/world/slavery+thailand
>> https://theexodusroad.com/human-trafficking-in-thailand/
>
>Why do you suppose that Freak of Nature - the midget Slocomb doesn't have anything to say about this - I have taken him off of the kill file long enough to see his crawling on his belly like a reptile comments.
Well, I did reply... and with the truth rather then your lying
>> > I am told that Slocomb wants some slave to own but cannot find them. Thailand LAWS say that slavery was abolished except for children and hence 20% of the children in Thailand are working under duress in various industries rather than being educated.
>> >
>> > Even Obama made it a subject of one of his speeches.
>> >
>> > https://www.theguardian.com/world/slavery+thailand
>> https://theexodusroad.com/human-trafficking-in-thailand/
>
>Why do you suppose that Freak of Nature - the midget Slocomb doesn't have anything to say about this - I have taken him off of the kill file long enough to see his crawling on his belly like a reptile comments.
statements.
But, I'm still waiting for some evidence that your "Thailand LAWS say
that slavery was abolished except for children" is even faintly true.
There is, for example the “Child Protection Act, B.E. 2546”.
https://www.thailandlawonline.com/thai-family-and-marriage-law/child-protection-act
Which outlines in great detail how children may be treated.
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Cheers,
John B.
Tom Kunich
Jun 3, 2023, 9:59:16 AM6/3/23
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Tom Kunich
Jun 3, 2023, 10:04:13 AM6/3/23
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Why your vaunted King eliminated slavery in 1874 and that was SOOOO effective that Obama had to mention the slavery issue in 2018.
Feed us more of your blind eye knowledge.
John B.
Jun 3, 2023, 9:12:55 PM6/3/23
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On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 06:59:14 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
No, "my king" didn't eliminate slavery in Thailand. A King did that
back in the 1800's.
But what is this talk about child slavery that you keep harping about?
I've asked before about that and you have been rather reticent, but
I'd be very interested in learning more about it.
And no "the fishing industry" didn't support slavery... of any sort.
See Tommy, that's your problem, you don't know what you are talking
about.
As for the fishing industry and what happenings:
(1) a great many illegal immigrants come to Thailand in search of a
job. Now, these people, if caught can be put in jail or more likely
just deported.
So firstly we are dealing with technically, felons.
(2) Some Thai fishing boats fish in local waters and some fish in
foreign waters, as far away as some of the Indonesian islands.
(3) The "local" fishing boats hire Thai fisherman as there is no
alternative as they return to port every day or so and if they had
illegal's they would get caught.
Those entering the country and working illegally could face a sentence
of up to five years and a fine of up to 100,000 baht ($2,941).
the penalty for employing illegal workers is fines of 400,000 baht
($11,766) to 800,000 baht ($23,532) for each employee.
(4) The "foreign" fishing fleet spend months at sea. They sell their
catch to foreign company and re-supply from foreign sources. and may
not return to Thai ports for as long as half a year. And thus can
employ illegal workers without danger of being caught and fined.
5) It is likely that a fishing boat that employs illegal workers, who
are in law, criminals, may not pay then well, or perhaps at all in
some cases.
NOW PAY ATTENTION TO THIS PART TOMMY
People, even in strange lands, talk to each other. Go to any town or
village across the border from Thailand and ask around and you'll soon
learn who takes people across the border, how much it costs, and the
best place in Thailand to get a job.
Secondly, around every fishing port there are little villages. Where
else would fisherman's wives and kids live. And, to my knowledge in
the mix there will be a certain number of illegal's. And, of course,
every one talks to one another.
So, a fishing captain sails off with a crew of, maybe, 15 fishermen
and comes back 6 months later with no one but himself and the chief
engineer and no one would comment? The police wouldn't notice? He'd
have no problems in getting another crew?
But it likely does happen, just as it happens in other trades, and it
certainly makes headlines for some reporter.
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Cheers,
John B.
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
back in the 1800's.
But what is this talk about child slavery that you keep harping about?
I've asked before about that and you have been rather reticent, but
I'd be very interested in learning more about it.
And no "the fishing industry" didn't support slavery... of any sort.
See Tommy, that's your problem, you don't know what you are talking
about.
As for the fishing industry and what happenings:
(1) a great many illegal immigrants come to Thailand in search of a
job. Now, these people, if caught can be put in jail or more likely
just deported.
So firstly we are dealing with technically, felons.
(2) Some Thai fishing boats fish in local waters and some fish in
foreign waters, as far away as some of the Indonesian islands.
(3) The "local" fishing boats hire Thai fisherman as there is no
alternative as they return to port every day or so and if they had
illegal's they would get caught.
Those entering the country and working illegally could face a sentence
of up to five years and a fine of up to 100,000 baht ($2,941).
the penalty for employing illegal workers is fines of 400,000 baht
($11,766) to 800,000 baht ($23,532) for each employee.
(4) The "foreign" fishing fleet spend months at sea. They sell their
catch to foreign company and re-supply from foreign sources. and may
not return to Thai ports for as long as half a year. And thus can
employ illegal workers without danger of being caught and fined.
5) It is likely that a fishing boat that employs illegal workers, who
are in law, criminals, may not pay then well, or perhaps at all in
some cases.
NOW PAY ATTENTION TO THIS PART TOMMY
People, even in strange lands, talk to each other. Go to any town or
village across the border from Thailand and ask around and you'll soon
learn who takes people across the border, how much it costs, and the
best place in Thailand to get a job.
Secondly, around every fishing port there are little villages. Where
else would fisherman's wives and kids live. And, to my knowledge in
the mix there will be a certain number of illegal's. And, of course,
every one talks to one another.
So, a fishing captain sails off with a crew of, maybe, 15 fishermen
and comes back 6 months later with no one but himself and the chief
engineer and no one would comment? The police wouldn't notice? He'd
have no problems in getting another crew?
But it likely does happen, just as it happens in other trades, and it
certainly makes headlines for some reporter.
--
Cheers,
John B.
John B.
Jun 3, 2023, 9:29:35 PM6/3/23
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On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 07:04:10 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
Obama's actual words were "The President and I also discussed on how
to tackle transnational crimes, and in particular, human trafficking.
I reaffirmed my commitment to fight human trafficking, which equals to
modern slavery."
Oh yes... Obama visited Thailand in 2012 and in fact wasn't President
in 20198.... was he?
But, is human trafficking actually "slavery". the last time I read
anything about it there are as many as 5 million illegal workers in
Thailand.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_Thailand
Do you and Obama actually believe that they are all slaves?
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Cheers,
John B.
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
to tackle transnational crimes, and in particular, human trafficking.
I reaffirmed my commitment to fight human trafficking, which equals to
modern slavery."
Oh yes... Obama visited Thailand in 2012 and in fact wasn't President
in 20198.... was he?
But, is human trafficking actually "slavery". the last time I read
anything about it there are as many as 5 million illegal workers in
Thailand.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_Thailand
Do you and Obama actually believe that they are all slaves?
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Cheers,
John B.
John B.
Jun 3, 2023, 10:48:24 PM6/3/23
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On Sun, 04 Jun 2023 08:29:28 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Gee, I messed that up. I meant to say Obama wasn't president in
"2018". (:-(
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Cheers,
John B.
wrote:
"2018". (:-(
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Cheers,
John B.
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