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James
Mar 16, 2014, 5:37:35 PM3/16/14
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On 17/03/14 08:29, spincircles wrote:
> I posted a simple question regarding sources for old Equipe Pro Time
> cleats, and a moderator removed the post. Seriously, does this group
> have so much traffic that a tech enthusiast cant ask within the group
> where to find some hard to OLD technology.
>
> I can't imagine a better place to ask. Only in a group like this
> would there be a large enough # of equipment tech-focused cyclists
> that would still remember what these were.
>
> FYI, I've probably been on this group longer and made as many
> contributions that most anyone still on here, even accounting for my
> 8-10 year absence.
>
> Spincircles
>
I didn't know there was a moderator!
--
JS
> I posted a simple question regarding sources for old Equipe Pro Time
> cleats, and a moderator removed the post. Seriously, does this group
> have so much traffic that a tech enthusiast cant ask within the group
> where to find some hard to OLD technology.
>
> I can't imagine a better place to ask. Only in a group like this
> would there be a large enough # of equipment tech-focused cyclists
> that would still remember what these were.
>
> FYI, I've probably been on this group longer and made as many
> contributions that most anyone still on here, even accounting for my
> 8-10 year absence.
>
> Spincircles
>
I didn't know there was a moderator!
--
JS
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spincircles
Mar 16, 2014, 5:44:06 PM3/16/14
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Maybe "moderator" Is the wrong term. Member "x" apparently flagged my question for abuse of the group, so my post was hidden. Who is this guy/gal? Would he care to explain his thoughts?
Sir Ridesalot
Mar 16, 2014, 5:56:52 PM3/16/14
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Cheers
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Joe Riel
Mar 16, 2014, 6:17:07 PM3/16/14
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spincircles <ispinc...@hotmail.com> writes:
> There is, apparently, a way to report or flag abusive posts and have them hidden. That is what happened to mine, which was titled "Where to find old style Time road cleats (equipe pro)?"
>
> I can still see my post, probably because *I* Posted it, but it includes a note that indicates that it was hidden from the group because it was flagged for abuse.
The post still exists; I saw the original and can still get to it.
I use the eternal-september news feed, not google news.
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Joe Riel
> There is, apparently, a way to report or flag abusive posts and have them hidden. That is what happened to mine, which was titled "Where to find old style Time road cleats (equipe pro)?"
>
> I can still see my post, probably because *I* Posted it, but it includes a note that indicates that it was hidden from the group because it was flagged for abuse.
The post still exists; I saw the original and can still get to it.
I use the eternal-september news feed, not google news.
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Joe Riel
Sir Ridesalot
Mar 16, 2014, 6:25:18 PM3/16/14
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On Sunday, March 16, 2014 6:09:35 PM UTC-4, spincircles wrote:
> There is, apparently, a way to report or flag abusive posts and have them hidden. That is what happened to mine, which was titled "Where to find old style Time road cleats (equipe pro)?"
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> I can still see my post, probably because *I* Posted it, but it includes a note that indicates that it was hidden from the group because it was flagged for abuse.
>
>
>
> ironically member "X", who responded to it to indicate it was trash, and who probably flagged it, has a recent history of posting junk t this group that does not relate to cycling.
> There is, apparently, a way to report or flag abusive posts and have them hidden. That is what happened to mine, which was titled "Where to find old style Time road cleats (equipe pro)?"
>
>
>
> I can still see my post, probably because *I* Posted it, but it includes a note that indicates that it was hidden from the group because it was flagged for abuse.
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> How do we flag topics on this group?
I just viewed the group on Google and your original Time Cleats post is still there. There's one reply from X that's totally unrelated to your post. That post of X's is proof the group is not moderated.
BTW, can you link to the type of cleat you're looking for as might have some you can have. They're Time but I'm not sure what kind.
Cheers
Mike Causer
Mar 16, 2014, 6:30:58 PM3/16/14
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On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 15:09:35 -0700 (PDT)
spincircles <ispinc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> There is, apparently, a way to report or flag abusive posts and have
> them hidden. That is what happened to mine, which was titled "Where
> to find old style Time road cleats (equipe pro)?"
>
> I can still see my post, probably because *I* Posted it, but it
> includes a note that indicates that it was hidden from the group
> because it was flagged for abuse.
You mean this one?
spincircles <ispinc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> There is, apparently, a way to report or flag abusive posts and have
> them hidden. That is what happened to mine, which was titled "Where
> to find old style Time road cleats (equipe pro)?"
>
> I can still see my post, probably because *I* Posted it, but it
> includes a note that indicates that it was hidden from the group
> because it was flagged for abuse.
From: spincircles <ispinc...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Where to find old style Time road cleats (equipe pro)?
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:26:52 -0700 (PDT)
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Where to find old style Time road cleats (equipe pro)?
It's still there. No moderation, no flagging.
Your problem is that you're using Google's miserable apology for a
newsreader. Get rid of that by getting an actual newsreader and a
proper news account, and you'll have no more trouble. Eternal September
is free and reliable.
Sorry, I don't know where to find old style Time cleats.
Mike
spincircles
Mar 16, 2014, 6:38:58 PM3/16/14
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Thanks, all,
I'll take a look Eternal September.
I'll take a look Eternal September.
DATAKOLL MARINE RESEARCH
Mar 16, 2014, 6:40:14 PM3/16/14
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Why this is marked as abuse? It has been marked as abuse.
Report not abuse
I'm not allowed posting due to conflicts with Google's People...I have exceeded their sense of importance.
The trash is where you may find the cleats, in the LBS trash.
One would not approach the bar with a stiff attidude or at the wrong time. Trash isnot a big margin item...unless used by Ivan Basso et al.
Try Wednesday at 10AM
try to hide the fact ura asshole
The trash is where you may find the cleats, in the LBS trash.
One would not approach the bar with a stiff attidude or at the wrong time. Trash isnot a big margin item...unless used by Ivan Basso et al.
Try Wednesday at 10AM
try to hide the fact ura asshole
DATAKOLL MARINE RESEARCH
Mar 16, 2014, 6:45:55 PM3/16/14
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Duane
Mar 16, 2014, 6:46:47 PM3/16/14
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duane
spincircles
Mar 16, 2014, 7:26:40 PM3/16/14
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I see now. Something was posted that somebody reported as abusive, and it *is* hidden. The way that "message hidden" note came up made it look, to me, like my original message was hidden (it is not). "X"s message was posted right beside that "this message is hidden" note and got I confused, in part because "X"s message did not make much sense to me.
The display of information on these groups has changed since I was last active here, 8 years ago. I'll try reading the group through an email client that blocks spam or through eternal September. Hopefully, either of those will help sort out the junk.
The display of information on these groups has changed since I was last active here, 8 years ago. I'll try reading the group through an email client that blocks spam or through eternal September. Hopefully, either of those will help sort out the junk.
Jeff Liebermann
Mar 16, 2014, 7:27:42 PM3/16/14
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On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 14:29:10 -0700 (PDT), spincircles
<ispinc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I posted a simple question regarding sources for old Equipe Pro
>Time cleats, and a moderator removed the post.
There is no moderator. Your message
<ispinc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I posted a simple question regarding sources for old Equipe Pro
>Time cleats, and a moderator removed the post.
<581b650d-a6d4-42a3...@googlegroups.com>
appears on Supernews, Giganews, Newsguy, and Google News.
<https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/rec.bicycles.tech/1uoLMpMq714>
Oddly, while your original message appears everywhere, there's also a
message from a spammer, and your follow up to your original message
(with a link to a photo of the cleats), which appear only on Google
News. No clue what happened.
While Google News is free, it has minimal and generally ineffective
spam filtering. I suggest using an alternative Usenet news service.
No clue on where to get those cleats.
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Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
Jeff Liebermann
Mar 16, 2014, 7:40:10 PM3/16/14
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On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 16:27:42 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
wrote:
>There is no moderator. Your message
><581b650d-a6d4-42a3...@googlegroups.com>
>appears on Supernews, Giganews, Newsguy, and Google News.
><https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/rec.bicycles.tech/1uoLMpMq714>
>Oddly, while your original message appears everywhere, there's also a
>message from a spammer, and your follow up to your original message
>(with a link to a photo of the cleats), which appear only on Google
>News. No clue what happened.
Your follow up message just appeared. While your original message was
posted on Mar 12, your follow up message was posted about 1 hour ago
on Mar 15. If you claim that the original message was "moderated",
how did you know which message to post a followup?
I believe the problem is the Google Groups hideous and useless user
interface. I don't think it was designed to be used by humans. I've
been through all the variations since before Google Deja News. It
only gets worse. Find another reader (Forte Agent) and another
provider (Eternal September).
wrote:
>There is no moderator. Your message
><581b650d-a6d4-42a3...@googlegroups.com>
>appears on Supernews, Giganews, Newsguy, and Google News.
><https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/rec.bicycles.tech/1uoLMpMq714>
>Oddly, while your original message appears everywhere, there's also a
>message from a spammer, and your follow up to your original message
>(with a link to a photo of the cleats), which appear only on Google
>News. No clue what happened.
posted on Mar 12, your follow up message was posted about 1 hour ago
on Mar 15. If you claim that the original message was "moderated",
how did you know which message to post a followup?
I believe the problem is the Google Groups hideous and useless user
interface. I don't think it was designed to be used by humans. I've
been through all the variations since before Google Deja News. It
only gets worse. Find another reader (Forte Agent) and another
provider (Eternal September).
John B.
Mar 16, 2014, 8:24:21 PM3/16/14
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>I posted a simple question regarding sources for old Equipe Pro Time cleats, and a moderator removed the post. Seriously, does this group have so much traffic that a tech enthusiast cant ask within the group where to find some hard to OLD technology.
>
Nope. You original post appeared today, and I believe I saw it
>
yesterday.... and I don't believe that there is a moderator in this
group :-)
>I can't imagine a better place to ask. Only in a group like this would there be a large enough # of equipment tech-focused cyclists that would still remember what these were.
>
>FYI, I've probably been on this group longer and made as many contributions that most anyone still on here, even accounting for my 8-10 year absence.
>
>Spincircles
Cheers,
John B.
John B.
Mar 16, 2014, 8:25:39 PM3/16/14
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On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 14:44:06 -0700 (PDT), spincircles
<ispinc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Maybe "moderator" Is the wrong term. Member "x" apparently flagged my question for abuse of the group, so my post was hidden. Who is this guy/gal? Would he care to explain his thoughts?
>
But it wasn't hidden.... it is right here, on the group, today... and
<ispinc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Maybe "moderator" Is the wrong term. Member "x" apparently flagged my question for abuse of the group, so my post was hidden. Who is this guy/gal? Would he care to explain his thoughts?
>
was here a day or so ago too.
>On Sunday, March 16, 2014 5:37:35 PM UTC-4, James wrote:
>> On 17/03/14 08:29, spincircles wrote:
>>
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>> I didn't know there was a moderator!
>>
>>
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>> --
>>
>> JS
Cheers,
John B.
John B.
Mar 16, 2014, 8:35:39 PM3/16/14
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On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 15:09:35 -0700 (PDT), spincircles
<ispinc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>There is, apparently, a way to report or flag abusive posts and have them hidden. That is what happened to mine, which was titled "Where to find old style Time road cleats (equipe pro)?"
>
>I can still see my post, probably because *I* Posted it, but it includes a note that indicates that it was hidden from the group because it was flagged for abuse.
>
<ispinc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>There is, apparently, a way to report or flag abusive posts and have them hidden. That is what happened to mine, which was titled "Where to find old style Time road cleats (equipe pro)?"
>
>I can still see my post, probably because *I* Posted it, but it includes a note that indicates that it was hidden from the group because it was flagged for abuse.
>
>ironically member "X", who responded to it to indicate it was trash, and who probably flagged it, has a recent history of posting junk t this group that does not relate to cycling.
>
>How do we flag topics on this group?
Your, apparently, original post, copy below:
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>How do we flag topics on this group?
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These are the cleats I am searching for:
http://cyclingparents.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Time-Equipe-Magnesium.jpg
On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:26:52 AM UTC-4, spincircles wrote:
> Where to find old style Time road cleats (equipe pro)?
>
>
>
> BTW: WOW! This group is still active!!!! I have not been on here for YEARS!!!
is right there on Usenet. In fact it was there yesterday.
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Cheers,
John B.
Frank Krygowski
Mar 16, 2014, 9:59:05 PM3/16/14
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davethedave
Mar 18, 2014, 10:58:39 AM3/18/14
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On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 07:25:39 +0700, John B. wrote:
>>Maybe "moderator" Is the wrong term. Member "x" apparently flagged my
>>question for abuse of the group, so my post was hidden. Who is this
>>guy/gal? Would he care to explain his thoughts?
>>
>>
> But it wasn't hidden.... it is right here, on the group, today... and
> was here a day or so ago too.
It was here 5 minutes ago when I replied.
>>Maybe "moderator" Is the wrong term. Member "x" apparently flagged my
>>question for abuse of the group, so my post was hidden. Who is this
>>guy/gal? Would he care to explain his thoughts?
>>
>>
> But it wasn't hidden.... it is right here, on the group, today... and
> was here a day or so ago too.
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davethedave
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