How to pronounce...
Phil, Squid-in-Training
Mavic (MAH-vik) with short a or long a?
Gipiemme (Gyp-me? lol)
Bianchi (bee-AHN-kee) or other? During the TDF, the commentator was saying
it different.
Stumpers:
Giant
Specialized
GT
Trek
Redline
Continue the list with your own maybes or
how-the-hell-do-you-pronounce-that's!
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Jonathan v.d. Sluis
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> Every single bike brand name you know of. Especially Italian/French.
>
> Mavic (MAH-vik) with short a or long a?
Long, as in 'Bhaal'.
> Gipiemme (Gyp-me? lol)
I'd say it like you would pronounce the acronym 'GPM', perhaps with a soft
'uh' at the end.
> Bianchi (bee-AHN-kee)
Like that, I think...
> or other? During the TDF, the commentator was saying
> it different.
>
> Stumpers:
> Giant
> Specialized
> GT
> Trek
> Redline
>
> Continue the list with your own maybes or
> how-the-hell-do-you-pronounce-that's!
How about 'Ciöcc'? I don't think its pronunciation can be converted to
english syllables.
Jonathan.
Antti Salonen
> Mavic (MAH-vik) with short a or long a?
Short AFAIK.
> Gipiemme (Gyp-me? lol)
Might be something like "gee-pemm", I'm not sure if the last e is really
pronounced.
> Bianchi (bee-AHN-kee) or other?
That's quite close. The ch is definitely a hard "k" sound, but the first
i is very short. "Byan-kee" might be closer to truth. Then again, I
might be completely off the mark.
-as
Maurizio
them:
> Gipiemme (Gyp-me? lol)
Gipiemme is the 'explosion' of the acronym GPM, so you pronounce it someway
like 'gee-pee-em-meh'
the last e is pronounced, although I think it's a sound not present in
english.
> Bianchi (bee-AHN-kee) or other? During the TDF, the commentator was
saying
> it different.
correct.
say 'i' like you say 'e', 'ch' is simply 'k' -> beeankee
Anyway, these terms are easy :-)
'Campagnolo' or 'Marzocchi' are much more difficult...
Ciao
Maurizio, Bologna, Italia
eric paul zamora
i won't say it's the correct way, but my buddy and i in high school (1980s)
would say "cheee-owch" with the O somewhere between a long and a short
sound. but we didn't draw out the "cheee" part. it was quickly pronounced.
eric
fresno, ca.
David Hutchinson
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Heres an old French one, and one I am currently riding now.
Motobecane
I have heard it pronounced two ways.
mow-toe-bee-con-eeee
mow-toe-bee-cane
Just did my first solo century ride on it the 4th of July weekend.
Dave
Fritz M
> Motobecane
I've always just heard "moe toe bay kon"
RFM
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Jim Edgar
> Every single bike brand name you know of. Especially Italian/French.
> Stumpers:
> Giant
French - "Ghee-AHNT"
> Specialized
British - "Spes-EE-all-eye-zed
> GT
Russian - "GTT" emphasis on the second "T"
> Trek
Never heard of this one - are you sure it's a bike brand?
> Redline
Pacific Northwest - "ED-li" the "R" and "N" is silent
>
> Continue the list with your own maybes or
> how-the-hell-do-you-pronounce-that's!
Durace
Italian - "do-RACH-chee"
Paul's
Italian - "pa-ool-ESS-eh"
Huffy
French - "hu"
SRAM
Japanense - "shee-RAM-oh"
Cannondale
Italian - "can-NAN-dah-lee"
Ultegra
Spanish - "ul-teh-GRA"
Kona
Hawaiian - "ko-na-ney-moo-ahh-lay-tay-moo-ahh-say-tay-mu-mu-ko-no-an-na-nay"
Ibis
American - "<moment of silence></moment of silence>"
-- Jim
DiabloScott
Ciöcc = CHair + rOACH (it was the builder's nickname for his father in
the dialect of Bergamo, not an Italian word) Wilier = VILify +YAY
(accent the YAY - family name from the part of Italy near Slovenia -
also a non-Italian regional dialect)
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Sheldon Brown
>>Motobecane
>
> I've always just heard "moe toe bay kon"
That's about right, though I'd have written "moe toe bay KAHN"
FYI, the name means "Bikebike"
It's a combination of "moto" and "bécane." Both of these words would
translate as "bike" in English, but "moto" refers to a motorcycle, while
"bécane" would refer to a bike with pedals.
The old Motobécane company made both sorts, though I don't think any of
their motorcycles were ever marketed in the U.S.
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TBGibb
Squid-in-Training" <i...@i.com> writes:
>Mavic (MAH-vik) with short a or long a?
Since it's a French word the last letter could/should be silent. Anyone for
MAH-vI?
Tom Gibb <TBG...@aol.com>
Werehatrack
may have said:
>Phil, Squid-in-Training at i...@i.com wrote on 7/10/03 12:37 AM:
>
>> Every single bike brand name you know of. Especially Italian/French.
>> Stumpers:
>
>> Giant
>
>French - "Ghee-AHNT"
>
>> Specialized
>
>British - "Spes-EE-all-eye-zed
One thoroughly disgruntled Texan apparently pronounced it
"Specious-lies-d", and was banned from chili cookoffs for a year.
>> Trek
>
>Never heard of this one - are you sure it's a bike brand?
I think it's Volkswagen's new emergency road service plan. They sell
cars with these mounted on the roof.
[as for the rest....splorf!]
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>>Mavic (MAH-vik) with short a or long a?
>
> Since it's a French word the last letter could/should be silent. Anyone for
> MAH-vI?
Nope, and it's the last syllable that gets the stress: "Mah VEEK"
The handy mnemomic is "CaReFuL" for "C,R,F & L". Those four consonants
are the only ones that are commonly pronounced at the ends of French words.
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> Giant
> Specialized
> GT
> Trek
> Redline
Sears
<Ci'-yarz> "southern U.S. pronunciation"
Murray
<muhr'-reh"
Huffy
"hmmm, I dunno...but you sure will"
Ted Williams
"What the heck did he use...a bat or a Bike to hit the baseball with?"
Puch
"ah too much fun with that one!"
Anthony Leverock
If I recall correctly, Bicycling Mag went into this 20 or so years
ago. The author claimed the proper pronunciation was: CheeOKE,
pronounced like "choke" but with a long "e" before the long "o" and
emphasizing the "OKE". Like you were saying "YO!" sandwiched between
"Ch" and "K".
- --
Anthony Leverock
Max Watt
> >> Trek
> >
> >Never heard of this one - are you sure it's a bike brand?
>
In Dutch it's pronounced "Drek", which means excrement.
And the Italian pronunciation "Door-ah Atchee"----
it's spelled "Dura Ace".
Werehatrack
have said:
>>
>> >> Trek
>> >
>> >Never heard of this one - are you sure it's a bike brand?
>>
>
>In Dutch it's pronounced "Drek", which means excrement.
I've never looked at one closely, but my long association with VW did
not lead me to expect that it would be an exceptionally wonderful
brand.
Tim McNamara
tbg...@aol.com (TBGibb) wrote:
Nope, C, F, L and R are all commonly pronounced terminal consonants in
French. Sometimes X as well.
"Mavic" would be "maah-VEEK"
Jim Edwards
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John Dacey
<capt...@sheldonbrown.com> wrote:
>TBGibb wrote:
>
>>>Mavic (MAH-vik) with short a or long a?
>>
>> Since it's a French word the last letter could/should be silent. Anyone for
>> MAH-vI?
>
>Nope, and it's the last syllable that gets the stress: "Mah VEEK"
I respectfully suggest that strict pronunciation rules may not apply
to the name of a French company which would choose to locate its US
headquarters in the area surrounded by Worcester, Leominster,
Salisbury and Gloucester.
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EMH
Would like one of the new high end ones though.
How about...
Duegi (my favorite cleats with the wooden sole plate)
Guerciotti (loved to hear all my racer friends massacre that one)
My stab...
Duegi (DWEE gee)?
Guerciotti (gare chi oh tee)?
I remember a friend correcting me and said "gware kah tee" and instantly
feeling the urge to preheat my oven to 350 in preparation for some exciting
Italian dish.
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Tim McNamara
"Jim Edwards" <Huge...@adelphia.net> wrote:
> Is it V ee tus or V eye tus?
vee-too
Maurizio
No, the first 'e' is pronounced like 'sEt' -> dwegee
The stress is on the 'i'.
> Guerciotti (gare chi oh tee)?
No, although yours is a funny way to pronounce it :-)
I'd say: Gwerchottee
(in Italian, when there are 2 consecutive consonants, you actually pronounce
both)
Ciao
Maurizio, Bologna, Italy
Jonathan v.d. Sluis
Anthony Leverock <alev...@aztecfreenet.org> schreef in berichtnieuws
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> >> How about 'Ciöcc'? I don't think its pronunciation can be converted to
> >> english syllables.
> >>
> >> Jonathan.
> >
>
> If I recall correctly, Bicycling Mag went into this 20 or so years
> ago. The author claimed the proper pronunciation was: CheeOKE,
> pronounced like "choke" but with a long "e" before the long "o" and
> emphasizing the "OKE". Like you were saying "YO!" sandwiched between
> "Ch" and "K".
>
> - --
> Anthony Leverock
If you were Dutch, I'd simply write 'Tsjeutsj', and all would be clear;
that's how the Flemish importer clarified it in an ad. So 'officially' it's
pronounced with two times 'ch' as in 'change', both at the end and the
beginning. The middle part is like the 'ö' in 'knackebröd'. Chöch. One
syllable. Beautiful bikes, by the way.
W K
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> Fritz M wrote:
>
> >>Motobecane
> >
> > I've always just heard "moe toe bay kon"
>
> That's about right, though I'd have written "moe toe bay KAHN"
I'd add for anyone within several hundred miles of texas that those first
three sounds are not really the same as those english speakers use.
They're alot shorter and don't try to close your mouth towards the end of
them.
ie don't make it too " Moeww toeww bayyyy "
Gary Smiley
Jon Bond
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Indeed. It would be pronounced MA(as in man)-vic (as in "Yo, Vic!)
Jon "I live in Meh-fahd" Bond
Anthony Leverock
<jonath...@planet.nlnospam> wrote:
>If you were Dutch, I'd simply write 'Tsjeutsj', and all would be clear;
>that's how the Flemish importer clarified it in an ad. So 'officially' it's
>pronounced with two times 'ch' as in 'change', both at the end and the
>beginning. The middle part is like the 'ö' in 'knackebröd'. Chöch. One
>syllable. Beautiful bikes, by the way.
>
A pity I don't speak Dutch, but I do accept your pronunciation.
Likewise, I have always loved Ciöcc, probably the finest craftmanship
I have seen in an import.
- --
Anthony Leverock
DiabloScott
> Once I thought Once was pronounced as in "Once upon a time".
Phil and Paul get this one wrong too - it's OWN-Thay, not ON-say.
ONCE is an acronym for "Organizacion Nacional de Ciegos Espanoles"
(National Organization of Blind Spaniards) so it should always be
capitalized like an acronym is and now you know why the logo is a guy
with a cane. The acronym of course is the same as the Spanish word for
"eleven". But the sponsor runs a lottery that benifits the blind
Spaniards organization and that's what they're really advertising, the
ONCE Lottery. Somehow in the way the lottery is played, the number
eleven figures prominently.
Fritz M
> I respectfully suggest that strict pronunciation rules may not apply
> to the name of a French company which would choose to locate its US
> headquarters in the area surrounded by Worcester, Leominster,
> Salisbury and Gloucester.
So then we should arbitrarily leave out several consonant sounds and just
pronounce Mavic something like "Mahk", as in my "Mahk 3" rims.
Fritz M
> Phil and Paul get this one wrong too - it's OWN-Thay, not ON-say.
...doce, trece, quatorce...
Or should that be onze, douze, treize, quatorze?
Dave Beal
> Once I thought Once was pronounced as in "Once upon a time".
Speaking of ONCE, is it meant as "eleven" in Spanish, or is it an acronym?
Phil, Squid-in-Training
Huh? I never specified this one in my OP. I was under the impression that
it'd be OWN-chay. Maybe I'm making it Italian instead of Spanish.
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DiabloScott
You must be missing a side thread Phil. I was talking about Phil Ligget
and Paul Sherwin.
Also, the Italian version of ONCE is UNDICI.
Antti Salonen
>> Phil and Paul get this one wrong too - it's OWN-Thay, not ON-say.
>
> Huh? I never specified this one in my OP. I was under the impression that
> it'd be OWN-chay. Maybe I'm making it Italian instead of Spanish.
You are making it Italian, as in Spanish ONCE would never be pronounced
"own-chay". The c differs from dialect to dialect, so it could be
pronounced as almost plain s or the soft "th" like sound.
-as
J Sakari Salonen
> Gary Smiley <gasm...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<3F0EC0AE...@comcast.net>...
>> Once I thought Once was pronounced as in "Once upon a time".
> Speaking of ONCE, is it meant as "eleven" in Spanish, or is it an acronym?
As another poster already explained, it's an acronym for "organizacion
nacional de ciegos españoles". However, this reminds me of a funny anecdote
I heard in Eurosport's Finnish-language cycling commentary. When ONCE's
great rival Banesto were celebrating the team's 11th anniversary, the
manager carefully avoided using the word "once" in his speech, but always
said "diez y uno" (ten and one).
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Chris Zacho The Wheelman
>pronunciation can be converted to
>english syllables.
>Jonathan.
I've always heard it pronounced "Kootch", as in kootchie-coo. How
accurate that is...?
I doubt it is impossible to translate into English, though. For one,
it's a personal pronoun, it would be pronounced the same way regardless
of the native language of the speaker.
And even the Italians are members of the human race, with similarly
designed mouths, throats, vocal chord...
May you have the wind at your back.
And a really low gear for the hills!
Chris
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ROTFLM@O!!
Jasper Janssen
Zacho "The Wheelman") wrote:
>And even the Italians are members of the human race, with similarly
>designed mouths, throats, vocal chord...
There are several phonemes that simply don't exist in the english language
any more. Hard u, frex (as in german "fünf"). The BBC describes german ö
as similar to the sound of the e in "her", which is close.
Jasper
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> Is it V ee tus or V eye tus?
> "Phil, Squid-in-Training" <i...@i.com> wrote in message
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>
I believe Vee-tus... But it's an aluminum frame for a small person and
it's going break if I get on it and try to hammer!
NS>
Bruce Jackson
> I believe Vee-tus... But it's an aluminum frame for a small person and
> it's going break if I get on it and try to hammer!
I doubt that. While it was a whippy frame I knew lots of rather beefy
riders who rode Vitus' without problem.
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