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Tom Kunich
Mar 10, 2023, 11:58:33 AM3/10/23
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The hills above Santa Cruz has been under a mandatory evacuation order. With any luck, Lieberman will ignore the order because he knows more than the emergency crews who don't want to risk their lives answering emergency calls in that area. I think that a couple of months of jail time will at least give Jeff a lot of new friends of his kind of people.
Frank Krygowski
Mar 10, 2023, 12:14:51 PM3/10/23
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On 3/10/2023 11:58 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> The hills above Santa Cruz has been under a mandatory evacuation order. With any luck, Lieberman will ignore the order because he knows more than the emergency crews who don't want to risk their lives answering emergency calls in that area. I think that a couple of months of jail time will at least give Jeff a lot of new friends of his kind of people.
Tom Kunich, you're a miserable old man. Your posts prove it.
> The hills above Santa Cruz has been under a mandatory evacuation order. With any luck, Lieberman will ignore the order because he knows more than the emergency crews who don't want to risk their lives answering emergency calls in that area. I think that a couple of months of jail time will at least give Jeff a lot of new friends of his kind of people.
You probably forgot, but you promised to post only bike related
comments. Check your notes.
--
- Frank Krygowski
Jeff Liebermann
Mar 10, 2023, 1:41:25 PM3/10/23
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On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 08:58:31 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>The hills above Santa Cruz has been under a mandatory evacuation order.
Nope. Not even an official warning. You lie (as usual):
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>The hills above Santa Cruz has been under a mandatory evacuation order.
Santa Cruz area map:
<https://aware.zonehaven.com/search?z=11.100991843466597&latlon=37.07828078179793%2C-122.04655319257591>
Click on the "Legend" button in the lower left.
>With any luck, Lieberman will ignore the order
now.
>because he knows more than the emergency crews who don't
>want to risk their lives answering emergency calls in that
>area.
fire fighters have to drop what they're doing and switch to performing
a rescue. That happened in the CZU Fire.
>I think that a couple of months of jail time will at least give
>Jeff a lot of new friends of his kind of people.
"Ignoring mandatory evacuations is a criminal offense in California"
<https://www.abc10.com/article/news/local/california/ignoring-mandatory-evacuations-is-a-criminal-offense-in-california/103-458260741>
Note that the article talks about possible jail time and does not
provide specifics or examples. The problem is that those remaining
during an evacuation are almost always looters. The police are too
busy to protect property during an evacuation.
During the summer of 2022, we had a few fires that looked like they
might require a mass evacuation. The authorities a warning, which the
media immediately converted into an inevitable crisis. These days,
it's done directly by the county:
<https://www.co.santa-cruz.ca.us/OR3/Response/DigitalLibrary/EmergencyAlertsandWarnings.aspx>
Note that there are 3 stages. Warning -> Alert -> Order
Warnings and alerts are just to tell residents to load their cars with
as much junk they can't live without, and get ready to drive away.
Also, the evacuation order and return are done in stages by zone to
prevent traffic jams on the roads. This worked very well during the
CZU fire.
I spent some jail time when I was a teenager. It was sufficient to
convince me that jail was a bad idea. However, you are correct about
the "friends". I learned quite a bit about how the world really works
and added a few skills to my portfolio. Tom, I recommend that you
spend some quality time in jail in order to obtain the education that
you somehow missed when you were younger.
Power was out at my house from Fri 2AM to about 10AM. Next storm is
scheduled to arrive Monday afternoon. No problems except my generator
seems to have gum in the carburetor and/or a sticky throttle plate.
--
Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
Jeff Liebermann
Mar 10, 2023, 2:08:57 PM3/10/23
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On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 10:41:12 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
wrote:
>Note that there are 3 stages. Warning -> Alert -> Order
Oops. That's wrong and incomplete. It should be Evacuation:
Advisory -> Warning -> Order -> Order lifted
That's for California and Colorado. Other states have different
evacuation level terms. Some use numbers or Roman numberals.
There is also "shelter in place" which means stay home until the
weather clears, the roads are safe, etc.
wrote:
>Note that there are 3 stages. Warning -> Alert -> Order
Advisory -> Warning -> Order -> Order lifted
That's for California and Colorado. Other states have different
evacuation level terms. Some use numbers or Roman numberals.
There is also "shelter in place" which means stay home until the
weather clears, the roads are safe, etc.
Jeff Liebermann
Mar 10, 2023, 2:22:18 PM3/10/23
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>On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 08:58:31 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
><cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>The hills above Santa Cruz has been under a mandatory evacuation order.
>Nope. Not even an official warning. You lie (as usual):
>Santa Cruz area map:
><https://aware.zonehaven.com/search?z=11.100991843466597&latlon=37.07828078179793%2C-122.04655319257591>
>Click on the "Legend" button in the lower left.
Oops. Yet another mistake, this time because I missed the advisory
><cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>The hills above Santa Cruz has been under a mandatory evacuation order.
>Nope. Not even an official warning. You lie (as usual):
>Santa Cruz area map:
><https://aware.zonehaven.com/search?z=11.100991843466597&latlon=37.07828078179793%2C-122.04655319257591>
>Click on the "Legend" button in the lower left.
because of the low contrast map colors. The city of Santa Cruz along
the San Lorenzo river, shows an evacuation advisory. That means if
there's a threat of flooding, they might decide to evacuation.
<https://aware.zonehaven.com/zones/US-CA-XCZ-SCZ-E017?z=13.713489744097446&latlon=36.97905152950207%2C-122.01585247205635>
There's nothing in the "hills above Santa Cruz" on the Santa Cruz side
of the mountains. However, on the Santa Clara side, there's an
advisory:
<https://aware.zonehaven.com/zones/US-CA-XSC-SCC-E042?z=12.100283558939982&latlon=37.189854272529374%2C-121.99390157868368>
"Snow, downed trees, and power lines are blocking many local mountain
roads. Please avoid local mountain roads and highways for your safety,
if possible."
My apologies for the multiple corrections.
Tom Kunich
Mar 10, 2023, 4:39:32 PM3/10/23
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On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 8:58:33 AM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
> The hills above Santa Cruz has been under a mandatory evacuation order. With any luck, Lieberman will ignore the order because he knows more than the emergency crews who don't want to risk their lives answering emergency calls in that area. I think that a couple of months of jail time will at least give Jeff a lot of new friends of his kind of people.
I see there are a lot of postings but since the kill file blanks them out I can only assume that idiot Lieberman is crying fowl (in recognition of his personality.) https://www.ktvu.com/news/3-communities-in-santa-cruz-county-evacuated So, has he been lying like the dog that he is?
> The hills above Santa Cruz has been under a mandatory evacuation order. With any luck, Lieberman will ignore the order because he knows more than the emergency crews who don't want to risk their lives answering emergency calls in that area. I think that a couple of months of jail time will at least give Jeff a lot of new friends of his kind of people.
Jeff Liebermann
Mar 10, 2023, 11:16:27 PM3/10/23
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On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 13:39:29 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 8:58:33?AM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> The hills above Santa Cruz has been under a mandatory evacuation order. With any luck, Lieberman will ignore the order because he knows more than the emergency crews who don't want to risk their lives answering emergency calls in that area. I think that a couple of months of jail time will at least give Jeff a lot of new friends of his kind of people.
>
>I see there are a lot of postings but since the kill file blanks them out I can only assume that idiot Lieberman is crying fowl (in recognition of his personality.) https://www.ktvu.com/news/3-communities-in-santa-cruz-county-evacuated So, has he been lying like the dog that he is?
You read Usenet news using Google Groups as shown in your NNTP header
as: Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com
Google Groups does not have a kill file feature. You're lying as
usual.
Flooding usually occurs in low lying areas. Neither Paradise Park or
Soquel village are in the "hills above Santa Cruz". When it rains
heavily, Felton Grove and Paradise Park are often evacutated. Nothing
new here. I don't know much about Soquel Village but it's probably
the same. Oddly, none of these evacuations appear on the official
evacuation map:
<https://aware.zonehaven.com/zones/US-CA-XCZ-FEL-E008?z=15.30627939557475&latlon=37.04839354719644%2C-122.06881110971449>
What probably happened is that the county issued an evacuation
warning, and the media amplified that into an evacuation. The same
thing happened in the last storm (approx Feb 28, 2023).
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 8:58:33?AM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> The hills above Santa Cruz has been under a mandatory evacuation order. With any luck, Lieberman will ignore the order because he knows more than the emergency crews who don't want to risk their lives answering emergency calls in that area. I think that a couple of months of jail time will at least give Jeff a lot of new friends of his kind of people.
>
>I see there are a lot of postings but since the kill file blanks them out I can only assume that idiot Lieberman is crying fowl (in recognition of his personality.) https://www.ktvu.com/news/3-communities-in-santa-cruz-county-evacuated So, has he been lying like the dog that he is?
as: Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com
Google Groups does not have a kill file feature. You're lying as
usual.
Flooding usually occurs in low lying areas. Neither Paradise Park or
Soquel village are in the "hills above Santa Cruz". When it rains
heavily, Felton Grove and Paradise Park are often evacutated. Nothing
new here. I don't know much about Soquel Village but it's probably
the same. Oddly, none of these evacuations appear on the official
evacuation map:
<https://aware.zonehaven.com/zones/US-CA-XCZ-FEL-E008?z=15.30627939557475&latlon=37.04839354719644%2C-122.06881110971449>
What probably happened is that the county issued an evacuation
warning, and the media amplified that into an evacuation. The same
thing happened in the last storm (approx Feb 28, 2023).
funkma...@hotmail.com
Mar 11, 2023, 8:47:09 AM3/11/23
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On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 11:58:33 AM UTC-5, Tom Kunich wrote:
> The hills above Santa Cruz has been under a mandatory evacuation order. With any luck, Lieberman will ignore the order because he knows more than the emergency crews who don't want to risk their lives answering emergency calls in that area. I think that a couple of months of jail time will at least give Jeff a lot of new friends of his kind of people.
So tommy thinks there is a mandatory evacuation order - when there isn't one, and that people get arrested form ignoring them - when they don't.
> The hills above Santa Cruz has been under a mandatory evacuation order. With any luck, Lieberman will ignore the order because he knows more than the emergency crews who don't want to risk their lives answering emergency calls in that area. I think that a couple of months of jail time will at least give Jeff a lot of new friends of his kind of people.
And he talks about "lying dogs".
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