What, Just Me?

[Tom Kunich]

It appears that the whistle is finally being blown about the fake pandemic is Europe as well as the USA. That the WHO collaborated with China to convince people that they were going to die unless they all stood in line to be poisoned with a vaccine.

The haters in this group cried literally for years that I didn't know what I was talking about while they were standing in line and taking the very thing that will end their lives.

Hey suckers - time for another booster.

"On January 23 Paul Craig Roberts reviewed Kees Van Der Pijl’s new book, States of Emergency. Van Der Pijl answers the question so many people have of why and how a fake “deadly pandemic” was orchestrated with worldwide participation in the fraud."

"Vienna
An extensive evaluation of data suggests a systematic exaggeration of the number of people affected by Covid-19. The incidence values ​​used to justify the lockdowns could therefore have been fictitious and a complaint to this effect was filed against the Austrian government."

And the best of all - for those who really love your government mandated vaccinations; https://freewestmedia.com/2022/01/31/embalmers-discover-strange-rubbery-worms-in-bodies-of-the-jabbed/

[Frank Krygowski]

You are such a sucker for ANY right wing bullshit! It doesn't even have
to be marginally plausible!

--
- Frank Krygowski

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 13:05:40 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>And the best of all - for those who really love your government mandated vaccinations; https://freewestmedia.com/2022/01/31/embalmers-discover-strange-rubbery-worms-in-bodies-of-the-jabbed/

That's fibrin (clotted blood):
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibrin>
It's quite "rubbery".

"Blood clots outstretch rubber bands in odd test" (Aug 2006)
<https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/blood-clots-outstretch-rubber-bands-odd-test-flna1c9438829>


--
Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

[ritzann...@gmail.com]

On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 3:05:42 PM UTC-6, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> It appears that the whistle is finally being blown about the fake pandemic is Europe as well as the USA. That the WHO collaborated with China to convince people that they were going to die unless they all stood in line to be poisoned with a vaccine.
>
> The haters in this group cried literally for years that I didn't know what I was talking about while they were standing in line and taking the very thing that will end their lives.
>
> Hey suckers - time for another booster.
>
> "On January 23 Paul Craig Roberts reviewed Kees Van Der Pijl’s new book, States of Emergency. Van Der Pijl answers the question so many people have of why and how a fake “deadly pandemic” was orchestrated with worldwide participation in the fraud."

Tommy, you got to use credible sources for your support. Debate classes, speech classes back in high school teach these very rudimentary rules. I know you never finished high school, but still you should have taken some classes and learned something if just by osmosis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Craig_Roberts
"He is a promoter of supply-side economics and an opponent of recent U.S. foreign policy."
"Since retiring, he has been accused of antisemitism and conspiracy theorizing by the Anti-Defamation League, Southern Poverty Law Center and others."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kees_van_der_Pijl
"He was involved in the Communist Party of the Netherlands (CPN)"
"On his return to the Netherlands he joined the Dutch Anti-Fascist Resistance (AFVN/BvA, issued from the wartime communist underground). He served as its president from 2013 to October 2015 and was involved in launching a Committee of Vigilance Against Resurgent Fascism of which he is the current president."
"Van der Pijl has claimed that Israelis brought down the Twin Towers during the 9/11 attacks 'with help from Zionists in the US government'.[6] The University of Sussex started a procedure to investigate accusations of antisemitism and demanded that Van der Pijl would make "a public apology on social media, acknowledging the hurt that your actions have caused and distancing yourself formally from anti-Semitism in any form." and remove the tweet which started the row. Van der Pijl refused to do so and decided to resign from his emeritus status on 14 March 2019."

>
> "Vienna
> An extensive evaluation of data suggests a systematic exaggeration of the number of people affected by Covid-19. The incidence values ​​used to justify the lockdowns could therefore have been fictitious and a complaint to this effect was filed against the Austrian government."
>
> And the best of all - for those who really love your government mandated vaccinations; https://freewestmedia.com/2022/01/31/embalmers-discover-strange-rubbery-worms-in-bodies-of-the-jabbed/

This is a right wing nut website. Do you find them credible? Ha Ha. I saw on this website they have an article by the above Paul Craig Roberts titled "President Biden is a tool of Big Pharma". It opens with "The lunatic occupant of the Oval Office has arbitrarily yanked from use the only “establishment approved” Covid treatment, monoclonal antibodies."
https://freewestmedia.com/2022/01/27/president-biden-is-a-tool-of-big-pharma/

Tommy, Tommy, Tommy. The right wing Republican authoritarian fascist nuts in this country and Europe have you eating from their bowl and licking their plate. You got to get out more.

[sms]

On 2/3/2022 1:57 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 13:05:40 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> And the best of all - for those who really love your government mandated vaccinations; https://freewestmedia.com/2022/01/31/embalmers-discover-strange-rubbery-worms-in-bodies-of-the-jabbed/
>
> That's fibrin (clotted blood):
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibrin>
> It's quite "rubbery".
>
> "Blood clots outstretch rubber bands in odd test" (Aug 2006)
> <https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/blood-clots-outstretch-rubber-bands-odd-test-flna1c9438829>

I think that our favorite troll's latest lie is referring to this:
<https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/oct/13/viral-image/no-isnt-picture-parasite-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine/>.

In any case, no one, adults or children, should be forced to be vaccinated.

Just like school children can’t attend public schools if they are not
vaccinated, individuals that choose not be vaccinated should not be
going to venues with the regular population.

Airplanes, ships, hotels, corporate offices, supermarkets, restaurants,
shopping centers, libraries, museums, stadiums, etc., should be
off-limits to the unvaccinated until the pandemic is over. This type of
quarantining is vital both for the health of the general population as
well as for the financial health of businesses that are suffering
because vaccinated people are reluctant to be in the same place as
unvaccinated people.

What some businesses are doing, instead of terminating unvaccinated
employees, is to both mandate very frequent testing and to substantially
increase the employee contribution to health insurance premiums. That's
a pretty good incentive to encourage employees to abandon junk science
and get vaccinated.

There should also be continuing efforts to discredit the junk science
being promulgated by the far-right media. Even former President Trump
and the Pope are urging people to get vaccinated. It’s the crazies at
OAN, Fox News, etc., that is endangering the health of Americans for
their own political benefit as well as prolonging the pandemic. Sadly,
they've brainwashed a lot of low-information residents of the U.S. as
well, so deprogramming them is going to be especially difficult.

[AMuzi]

On 2/3/2022 6:33 PM, sms wrote:
> On 2/3/2022 1:57 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 13:05:40 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> And the best of all - for those who really love your
>>> government mandated vaccinations;
>>> https://freewestmedia.com/2022/01/31/embalmers-discover-strange-rubbery-worms-in-bodies-of-the-jabbed/
>>>
>>
>> That's fibrin (clotted blood):
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibrin>
>> It's quite "rubbery".
>>
>> "Blood clots outstretch rubber bands in odd test" (Aug 2006)
>> <https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/blood-clots-outstretch-rubber-bands-odd-test-flna1c9438829>
>>
>
> I think that our favorite troll's latest lie is referring to
> this:
> <https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/oct/13/viral-image/no-isnt-picture-parasite-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine/>.
>
>
> In any case, no one, adults or children, should be forced to
> be vaccinated.
>

> Just like school children can’t attend public schools if

> they are not vaccinated, individuals that choose not be
> vaccinated should not be going to venues with the regular
> population.
>
> Airplanes, ships, hotels, corporate offices, supermarkets,
> restaurants, shopping centers, libraries, museums, stadiums,
> etc., should be off-limits to the unvaccinated until the
> pandemic is over. This type of quarantining is vital both
> for the health of the general population as well as for the
> financial health of businesses that are suffering because
> vaccinated people are reluctant to be in the same place as
> unvaccinated people.
>
> What some businesses are doing, instead of terminating
> unvaccinated employees, is to both mandate very frequent
> testing and to substantially increase the employee
> contribution to health insurance premiums. That's a pretty
> good incentive to encourage employees to abandon junk
> science and get vaccinated.
>
> There should also be continuing efforts to discredit the
> junk science being promulgated by the far-right media. Even
> former President Trump and the Pope are urging people to get

> vaccinated. It’s the crazies at OAN, Fox News, etc., that

> is endangering the health of Americans for their own
> political benefit as well as prolonging the pandemic. Sadly,
> they've brainwashed a lot of low-information residents of
> the U.S. as well, so deprogramming them is going to be
> especially difficult.

The Pfizer mRNA shot has beneficial effects (You're less
likely to die. Which may be a big deal) but since it doesn't
prevent infection or contagion what do you care if anyone
else has the shot(s)? Why keep people without shots from
attending a venue when those with shots are equally
contagious (as a group. Individuals may and do vary)?

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

[Frank Krygowski]

On 2/3/2022 8:00 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>
> The Pfizer mRNA shot has beneficial effects (You're less likely to die.
> Which may be a big deal) but since it doesn't prevent infection or

> contagion...

OK, what's your source for that claim?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/11/17/fact-check-covid-19-vaccines-protect-against-infection-transmission/6403678001/

"All three COVID-19 vaccines authorized in the U.S. were designed to
prevent severe infection, hospitalization and death. But experts and
public health officials say the shots also protect people from
contracting and spreading the virus."

or

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2021/10/13/do-coronavirus-vaccines-prevent-transmission-of-the-virus

"But do vaccines actually limit the spread of the virus?

"A large study, not yet peer-reviewed, led by a team at Oxford
University and looking specifically at the Delta variant has shown that
both the Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines do indeed reduce transmission
of the disease. ... The findings showed that both vaccines reduced
transmission, but that the Pfizer vaccine was the most effective in
doing so."

There are other links. Do you have contrary ones?

--
- Frank Krygowski

[AMuzi]

Howzabout the actual paper, not a news report?

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2788408

'Reduced' rates are nowhere near 'zero' for contagion or
transmission. (note that among us, The Great Unwashed, rates
are not 100% contagion or transmission despite no jab +
never worn The Face Rag Thing)

[Jeff Liebermann]

In the same journal (Jan 10, 2022):
"Booster Vaccination to Reduce SARS-CoV-2 Transmission and Infection"
<https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2788105>

"The incidence of SARS-CoV-2 was 116 per 100 000 person-days prior to
booster vaccination and 12.8 per 100 000 after booster vaccination,
for an estimated relative reduction of 93%"

"The booster vaccine doses reduced equally the risk of symptomatic and
asymptomatic infection."

"However, when booster vaccine doses reduce the risk of infection (as
shown in the study by Spitzer et al2), then these boosters will also
prevent transmission."

"Viral load can be a proxy for infectiousness, as established for some
infections (such as HIV), and less so for others. Thus, with
SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern, booster vaccine doses could help
reduce the risk of disease transmission."

So, who's right? I don't know who is right, but I do know that both
studies are making some potentially bad assumptions. Both assume that
the virus load is a suitable proxy measure for estimating virus
transmission. Not mentioned, but hinted, is that less severe cases
provide lower levels of transmission. These has yet to be
demonstrated. Also missing is some indication as to what degree do
vaccines reduce transmission.

[Frank Krygowski]

I know you are skeptical of (any and all?) measures against Covid. But help me out here:
I don't see in that paper where they say there is no difference in transmissibility
between vaccinated and unvaccinated people. I'm up late now, so if I've missed something, please
point it out.

And I'll note that less than 100% effectiveness does NOT mean zero effectiveness -
a point that I've made to you regarding quite a few issues.

- Frank Krygowski

[John B.]

On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 13:05:40 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>It appears that the whistle is finally being blown about the fake pandemic is Europe as well as the USA. That the WHO collaborated with China to convince people that they were going to die unless they all stood in line to be poisoned with a vaccine.
>
>The haters in this group cried literally for years that I didn't know what I was talking about while they were standing in line and taking the very thing that will end their lives.
>
>Hey suckers - time for another booster.
>
>"On January 23 Paul Craig Roberts reviewed Kees Van Der Pijl’s new book, States of Emergency. Van Der Pijl answers the question so many people have of why and how a fake “deadly pandemic” was orchestrated with worldwide participation in the fraud."
>
>"Vienna

>An extensive evaluation of data suggests a systematic exaggeration of the number of people affected by Covid-19. The incidence values ??used to justify the lockdowns could therefore have been fictitious and a complaint to this effect was filed against the Austrian government."

>
>And the best of all - for those who really love your government mandated vaccinations; https://freewestmedia.com/2022/01/31/embalmers-discover-strange-rubbery-worms-in-bodies-of-the-jabbed/

Kees Van Der Pijl.. He's the guy that claimed that Israelis brought

down the Twin Towers during the 9/11 attacks 'with help from Zionists

in the US government', isn't he?

Yes Sir! A really authoritative author.
--
Cheers,

John B.

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

Tommy has a thing for those types of whack jobs. His hero Kary Mullis spoke at the annual scientific meeting of the European Society for Clinical Investigation In 1994.
" The chairman of the organization later described Mullis’s performance in a blistering letter published in Nature: “His talk was in style rambling and in content inappropriate for a public appearance of a leader of science. … His only slides (on what he called his “art”) were photographs he’d taken of naked women with colored lights projected onto their bodies.”
https://alumni.berkeley.edu/california-magazine/winter-2019/intolerable-genius-berkeleys-most-controversial-nobel-laureate

[Tom Kunich]

A small percentage of people who receive the vaccine die from it. We have known that about vaccines since we started using them. This is only acceptable when the disease that is being protected against is significantly more deadly than the cost of life from the vaccines. And as I've shown too many times to count here, this SARS-Cov-2 may not even be real but if it is, it is most certainly NOT deadly. This makes it criminal to distribute the vaccines. Especially under the guise of protection.

[Tom Kunich]

So Frank is reduced to the level of John and having his entire knowledge of what is going on handed to him by Google which I have shown to lie in an almost continuous stream. A non-peer reviewed paper is useless. It is little green men stories that you want to pass off as truth. What a fool you have become.

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 10:28:22 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 5:47:48 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > On 2/3/2022 8:00 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> > >
> > > The Pfizer mRNA shot has beneficial effects (You're less likely to die.
> > > Which may be a big deal) but since it doesn't prevent infection or
> > > contagion...
> >
> > OK, what's your source for that claim?
> >
> > https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/11/17/fact-check-covid-19-vaccines-protect-against-infection-transmission/6403678001/
> >
> > "All three COVID-19 vaccines authorized in the U.S. were designed to
> > prevent severe infection, hospitalization and death. But experts and
> > public health officials say the shots also protect people from
> > contracting and spreading the virus."
> >
> > or
> >
> > https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2021/10/13/do-coronavirus-vaccines-prevent-transmission-of-the-virus
> >
> > "But do vaccines actually limit the spread of the virus?
> >
> > "A large study, not yet peer-reviewed, led by a team at Oxford
> > University and looking specifically at the Delta variant has shown that
> > both the Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines do indeed reduce transmission
> > of the disease. ... The findings showed that both vaccines reduced
> > transmission, but that the Pfizer vaccine was the most effective in
> > doing so."
> >
> > There are other links. Do you have contrary ones?
>

> A non-peer reviewed paper is useless. It is little green men stories that you want to pass off as truth. What a fool you have become.

LOL, This from the guy that left these links as "proof".

https://freewestmedia.com/2022/01/31/embalmers-discover-strange-rubbery-worms-in-bodies-of-the-jabbed/
https://truth11.files.wordpress.com/2021/12/athletes-after-vaccination-.pdf
https://truthbasedmedia.com/2022/01/12/autopsy-confirms-26-year-olds-death-from-myocarditis-directly-caused-by-pfizer-covid-vaccine/
https://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-myocarditis-young-men-after-vaccination-happens-is-very-rare-2021-6?op=1
https://greatreject.org/laboratories-cant-find-covid-19-in-positive-tests/

What a moron...

[Tom Kunich]

Flunky, no one is surprised in the least that you cannot distinguish laboratory facts from a non-peer reviewed study that occurred with the normal medical treatment was to put people on ventilators.

You are such a vastly trained and experienced scientist that we should have expected better from you. Oh, wait, you can't even be a technician, you can only supervise them. God, it is so much trouble saying "Henry - assemble this".

[Frank Krygowski]

On 2/4/2022 10:26 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>
> A small percentage of people who receive the vaccine die from it. We have known that about vaccines since we started using them. This is only acceptable when the disease that is being protected against is significantly more deadly than the cost of life from the vaccines. And as I've shown too many times to count here, this SARS-Cov-2 may not even be real but if it is, it is most certainly NOT deadly. This makes it criminal to distribute the vaccines. Especially under the guise of protection.

Tom, I see no signs that you've convinced anyone here that your message
is true.

Have you convinced anyone of importance anywhere else? How about your
city health officials? Your state health officials? Any health officials
at the national level, or those in other countries? Hell, what does your
family doctor say about your claim that COVID is all fake?

I suspect everybody else agrees with us that you're just a nut. But
whether or not that's true, you're wasting your time posting here. Take
your message out to the world. Convince them of your brilliance! Make a
difference!


--
- Frank Krygowski

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

Sure sparky, and all of these are peer-reviewed lab studies:

https://freewestmedia.com/2022/01/31/embalmers-discover-strange-rubbery-worms-in-bodies-of-the-jabbed/
https://truth11.files.wordpress.com/2021/12/athletes-after-vaccination-.pdf
https://truthbasedmedia.com/2022/01/12/autopsy-confirms-26-year-olds-death-from-myocarditis-directly-caused-by-pfizer-covid-vaccine/
https://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-myocarditis-young-men-after-vaccination-happens-is-very-rare-2021-6?op=1
https://greatreject.org/laboratories-cant-find-covid-19-in-positive-tests/

that occurred with the normal medical treatment was to put people on ventilators.

> You are such a vastly trained and experienced scientist that we should have expected better from you.

I would expect someone with your self-proclaimed level of experience _not_ to claim these are proof of anything:

https://freewestmedia.com/2022/01/31/embalmers-discover-strange-rubbery-worms-in-bodies-of-the-jabbed/
https://truth11.files.wordpress.com/2021/12/athletes-after-vaccination-.pdf
https://truthbasedmedia.com/2022/01/12/autopsy-confirms-26-year-olds-death-from-myocarditis-directly-caused-by-pfizer-covid-vaccine/
https://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-myocarditis-young-men-after-vaccination-happens-is-very-rare-2021-6?op=1
https://greatreject.org/laboratories-cant-find-covid-19-in-positive-tests/

> Oh, wait, you can't even be a technician, you can only supervise them. God, it is so much trouble saying "Henry - assemble this".

Sure sparky, because HP puts someone with no technical expertise in charge of a manufacturing test department, lol - More evidence of why you were never able to keep a job more than a year. You know what my technicians _didn't_ do? Assemble anything. They were test technicians, not assemblers. We had an assembly department that assembled things

You see, this is how we know you were never more than an assembly tech. You think a test department 'assembles' things.

You know what else my technicians _didn't_ do? Try to test cables with PWM or use the term "light lines" for fiber optics.

Every time you post you just keep digging your hole deeper. As Lou already stated, you must really like being pissed on.

[Tom Kunich]

Frank, do you actually have the idea that I care what you believe? I am doing nothing but repeating the statistics from the CDC that will eventually be brought up in courts around this country and everyone that was involved in this hoax will spend the rest of their days in prison. We are already seeing it starting so don't hold your breath.

[Frank Krygowski]

On 2/4/2022 6:30 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 9:42:02 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>
>> Tom, I see no signs that you've convinced anyone here that your message
>> is true.
>>
>> Have you convinced anyone of importance anywhere else? How about your
>> city health officials? Your state health officials? Any health officials
>> at the national level, or those in other countries? Hell, what does your
>> family doctor say about your claim that COVID is all fake?
>>
>> I suspect everybody else agrees with us that you're just a nut. But
>> whether or not that's true, you're wasting your time posting here. Take
>> your message out to the world. Convince them of your brilliance! Make a
>> difference!
>
> Frank, do you actually have the idea that I care what you believe?

If that's the case, please stop trying to get me to change my beliefs.


--
- Frank Krygowski

[Tom Kunich]

Do you mean your belief that I never worked as an engineer or that I never made the money that I said that I have? Or that I should stop trying to get you to admit that you're a communist after you've spent posting after posting espousing the communist line?

[John B.]

"Communist Line"?? Gee Tommy this must be the 4th or 5th time I've
asked you to define "communist" and so far you don't seem to be able
to do so. Are you just using it as some sort of "bad word" without
even knowing what it means?

But of course you do know that "Social Security", the scheme where the
government grabs some of your money and stores it away until you are
old and feeble before giving it back you' is a socialistic act, and
socialism is a very large part of communism. So, aren't all those that
accept social security really communists?
--
Cheers,

John B.

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 6:30:38 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I am doing nothing but repeating the statistics from the CDC

No, you haven't.

> that will eventually be brought up in courts around this country and everyone that was involved in this hoax will spend the rest of their days in prison. We are already seeing it starting so don't hold your breath.

Care to point to any successful litigation "proving" the pandemic is a hoax?

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 10:54:18 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 16:42:02 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 4:29:32 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> >> On 2/4/2022 6:30 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >> > On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 9:42:02 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Tom, I see no signs that you've convinced anyone here that your message
> >> >> is true.
> >> >>
> >> >> Have you convinced anyone of importance anywhere else? How about your
> >> >> city health officials? Your state health officials? Any health officials
> >> >> at the national level, or those in other countries? Hell, what does your
> >> >> family doctor say about your claim that COVID is all fake?
> >> >>
> >> >> I suspect everybody else agrees with us that you're just a nut. But
> >> >> whether or not that's true, you're wasting your time posting here. Take
> >> >> your message out to the world. Convince them of your brilliance! Make a
> >> >> difference!
> >> >
> >> > Frank, do you actually have the idea that I care what you believe?
> >> If that's the case, please stop trying to get me to change my beliefs.
> >
> >Do you mean your belief that I never worked as an engineer or that I never made the money that I said that I have? Or that I should stop trying to get you to admit that you're a communist after you've spent posting after posting espousing the communist line?
> "Communist Line"?? Gee Tommy this must be the 4th or 5th time I've
> asked you to define "communist" and so far you don't seem to be able
> to do so. Are you just using it as some sort of "bad word" without
> even knowing what it means?

GRRR...COMMIE...BAD!!!!

>
> But of course you do know that "Social Security", the scheme where the
> government grabs some of your money and stores it away until you are
> old and feeble before giving it back you' is a socialistic act, and
> socialism is a very large part of communism. So, aren't all those that
> accept social security really communists?

Tommy and his ilk call anything they don't like from the government 'communism' or 'socialism'.

[John B.]

And like all democracies, the U.S. is growing more and more
"socialistic". Social Security dates back to the 1930's and now, of
course there is the unemployment, medical schemes, aid to unwed
mothers, assisted housing, and even student loans. I just did a quick
count on one site and furnished by the Federal government there are 21
examples of socialistic, i.e., government furnished, schemes. then if
you add the State furnished and even the Town or City furnished...
--
Cheers,

John B.