Power Meter

[Tom Kunich]

One of the groups I am looking to buy has a "Stages Power Meter" on the cranks. Looking at the pictures I cannot see where you would insert a battery. Can one of you who use these sorts of things tell me about them?

[Lou Holtman]

On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 8:59:26 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> One of the groups I am looking to buy has a "Stages Power Meter" on the cranks. Looking at the pictures I cannot see where you would insert a battery. Can one of you who use these sorts of things tell me about them?

It has a little door you can rotate about 30 degrees and it will open just like on your Garmin speedsensor. It takes a 2032 battery. If you see it in real live it will explains itself. You can also look on the Stages website….duhh.

Lou

[Tom Kunich]

I expected a "turn with a quarter" rather than that complicated fitting that serves no purpose. i guess people willing to buy them new wouldn't have a quarter left.

[Lou Holtman]

Complicated? How is that different from a ‘turn with a quarter’? From a design point of view it is exactly the same. Instead of searching for and using a coin there is a ready to use little tap. If it too complicated for you don’t buy the cranks. That snotty remark was unnecessary, I was trying to help.

Lou

[Tom Kunich]

You have to have a long enough fingernail to push that over and on some parts that use that locking mechanism you can break your nail. Using a nickel or a quarter is fast, easy and safe. If you were trying to "help" what was the "duh" which in English would infer that I am stupid for not knowing that? I give you a pass on those sorts of remarks because you're a non-native English speaker and that was not a snotty remark but humor. You're one of those who believe that you necessarily have to buy things new and untouched by human hands if they have any value whatsoever. This Basso I'm putting together in so unblemished that I scratched the top of the seat tube lug trying to insert the 30.8 mm seat post and that is the ONLY missing paint on the bike unless you count where the wheels clamp into the dropouts which I'm sure you don't.

Lou, I like you because you're one of the few riders here that actually know what they're talking about. But you have to stop your misunderstanding of comments. You really should not want to be associated with Krygowski and the others that are here only to argue. Yes, in the old days no one argued because Jobst acted like the final arbiter of truth, justice and the cycling way. But we actually got away from that while Jobst was still alive and people rebelled against his supposed authority. If you ride CX, I'm sure that you could learn for yourself and not from some road rider that rides a bike 3 inches too big. Jobst rode the way he wanted to and that was perfectly fine, but he did not ride for other people. We had enough of that and now Krygowski is pulling the same "I'm the expert on how to ride." And an inventive one at that. Maybe drivers respect cyclists in the Netherlands, but they do not here and reminding them with a line painted on the street contrary to Krygowski's demand, doesn't hurt a thing.

Stop associating yourself with these people because they sound reasonable to you. There is an entirely different riding atmosphere here. I have a couple hundred thousands of miles and while that isn't pro-level, it is one hell of a lot more than Frank has. I don't have to invent "friends" that agree with me because I've done it. I am definitely not impressed with Krygowski's claim to have ridden coast to coast. My youngest step daughter did that at 11 one year and then 12 the next and then another half way at 13 to the Junior National road races where she hit a third place. Three years in a row I turned in 10,000 miles (16,000 km) and the only thing that stopped me from continuing that was that accident.

[Zen Cycle]

On 12/19/2023 12:55 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 9:15:43 AM UTC-8, Lou Holtman wrote:
>> On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 11:34:32 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>> On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 12:59:58 PM UTC-8, Lou Holtman wrote:
>>>> On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 8:59:26 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>> One of the groups I am looking to buy has a "Stages Power Meter" on the cranks. Looking at the pictures I cannot see where you would insert a battery. Can one of you who use these sorts of things tell me about them?
>>>> It has a little door you can rotate about 30 degrees and it will open just like on your Garmin speedsensor. It takes a 2032 battery. If you see it in real live it will explains itself. You can also look on the Stages website….duhh.
>>>>
>>>> Lou
>>> I expected a "turn with a quarter" rather than that complicated fitting that serves no purpose. i guess people willing to buy them new wouldn't have a quarter left.
>> Complicated? How is that different from a ‘turn with a quarter’? From a design point of view it is exactly the same. Instead of searching for and using a coin there is a ready to use little tap. If it too complicated for you don’t buy the cranks. That snotty remark was unnecessary, I was trying to help.
>>
>> Lou
> You have to have a long enough fingernail to push that over and on some parts that use that locking mechanism you can break your nail. Using a nickel or a quarter is fast, easy and safe. If you were trying to "help" what was the "duh" which in English would infer that I am stupid for not knowing that?

I don't think he inferred anything. It was a blatant statement that
you're too ignorant and lazy to look it up yourself, and even if you did
you likely wouldn't understand it.

> I give you a pass on those sorts of remarks because you're a non-native English speaker and that was not a snotty remark but humor.

Congratulations Lou! Tommy is 'giving you a pass'! doesn't that just
warm the cockles of your heart?

>You're one of those who believe that you necessarily have to buy
things new and untouched by human hands if they have any value
whatsoever. This Basso I'm putting together in so unblemished that I
scratched the top of the seat tube lug trying to insert the 30.8 mm seat
post and that is the ONLY missing paint on the bike unless you count
where the wheels clamp into the dropouts which I'm sure you don't.
>
> Lou, I like you because you're one of the few riders here that actually know what they're talking about.

Wow...I guess this is the way tommy talks to his "friends".

> But you have to stop your misunderstanding of comments. You really should not want to be associated with Krygowski and the others that are here only to argue.

Ah, now tommy is telling people who they should and should not associate
with.

> Yes, in the old days no one argued because Jobst acted like the final arbiter of truth, justice and the cycling way. But we actually got away from that while Jobst was still alive and people rebelled against his supposed authority. If you ride CX, I'm sure that you could learn for yourself and not from some road rider that rides a bike 3 inches too big. Jobst rode the way he wanted to and that was perfectly fine, but he did not ride for other people. We had enough of that and now Krygowski is pulling the same "I'm the expert on how to ride." And an inventive one at that. Maybe drivers respect cyclists in the Netherlands, but they do not here and reminding them with a line painted on the street contrary to Krygowski's demand, doesn't hurt a thing.
>
> Stop associating yourself with these people because they sound reasonable to you.

Yeah Lou, why would you ever want to associate with people whom you
agree with?

> There is an entirely different riding atmosphere here. I have a couple hundred thousands of miles and while that isn't pro-level, it is one hell of a lot more than Frank has. I don't have to invent "friends" that agree with me because I've done it. I am definitely not impressed with Krygowski's claim to have ridden coast to coast. My youngest step daughter did that at 11 one year and then 12 the next and then another half way at 13 to the Junior National road races where she hit a third place.

None of which tommy has ever given any evidence for...Take into
consideration:
- he "read out" three libraries
- he argued economics with Janet Yellen
- He was a "senior business consultant" somewhere in and amongst
designing every piece of emergency room equipment in common use today
(never told us what company he worked for as a "senior business consultant)
- he was on the team that discovered the HIV virus was the cause of AIDS.

How could you possible question the advice of such a learned, educated,
experienced, and accomplished polymath?

> Three years in a row I turned in 10,000 miles (16,000 km) and the only thing that stopped me from continuing that was that accident.

One of the few plausible "accomplishments" tommy has listed. (February
22nd can't possible get here quickly enough)

[Tom Kunich]

Perhaps you can show us still more of your excess bravery by telling us where you live? After all, I'm a harmless old 79 year old man that couldn't be a danger to you. And I'm dizzy all the time from the medication so certainly you can show your courage for all to see.

[Zen Cycle]

I've listed the city I live in over a dozen times in this forum (16
according to a search). You're going to have to learn how to pay
attention, sparky, your mother isn't here to do your homework for you.

> After all, I'm a harmless old 79 year old man that couldn't be a danger to you.

Not really, you can still vote.

> And I'm dizzy all the time from the medication so certainly you can show your courage for all to see.

It takes a particularly little man to equate on-line bravado with bravery.

[Tom Kunich]

So you're saying that rather than courage you're showing bravado since you're protected by a fake identity and distance. That sounds like you.

[Zen Cycle]

I guess we shouldn't really be surprised you would glean that from what
I wrote. I'm not the one constantly claiming how tough I am, how I can
snap peoples necks, put them in wheelchairs, crush their skulls, and any
of the other various threats of physical violence and outright murder
you have repeatedly committed. This is the 'bravado' you constantly
confuse with 'bravery'. Jay Beattie left this group after you threatened
to "smash his teeth in" - yet you and the shitstain keep saying 'the
stupid X are driving people away'.

You have no fucking clue what constitutes actually bravery. Hint -
threatening to kill people in a news group ain't it, sparky.

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[Jeff Liebermann]

On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 11:59:23 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>One of the groups I am looking to buy has a "Stages Power Meter" on the cranks. Looking at the pictures I cannot see where you would insert a battery. Can one of you who use these sorts of things tell me about them?

There seems to be 3 models. Looking at the pictures and video, the
replacement methodology seems quite simple.

"Can I replace the battery on the Stages Power meter without sending
it in?"
<https://support.stagescycling.com/en/support/solutions/articles/1000147207-can-i-replace-the-battery-on-the-stages-power-meter-without-sending-it-in->

Also, I thought you didn't like power meters?

(Aug 15, 2023)
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/msi921QxyOA/m/4i65kM9lAQAJ>
"If by this time you can't judge your power output you should just
call it quits and go home."

(Aug 30, 2021>
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/zUHx02n_Nak/m/JCtXSrFPAwAJ>
"...I don't have a power meter. I used one for about 3 months saw not
the slightest practicality for those numbers and dumped it."


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Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

[Tom Kunich]

It is no surprise that you cannot read or write English since you claim to be a citizen. You must have had Frank for a teacher.

[John B.]

On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 17:02:58 -0500, Zen Cycle <funkm...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On 12/19/2023 4:49 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:

>> On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 12:07:36?PM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>> On 12/19/2023 2:16 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:

>>>> On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 10:59:16?AM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>>> On 12/19/2023 12:55 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:

>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 9:15:43?AM UTC-8, Lou Holtman wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 11:34:32?PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 12:59:58?PM UTC-8, Lou Holtman wrote:

But think how important and it makes Tommy feel. Why, the next time
his wife gives him an order. "Hey You! Take the Garbage OUT!" He can
imagine how brave and fierce he really is, and all the threats he
could make toward her if they were on Usenet.
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Cheers,

John B.

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

At least I can write something that doesn't sound like it came from a defective AI generator. Repeat your last sentence to yourself several times and see how much sense it makes. No tommy, the problem with simple english composition isn't with me.

> You must have had Frank for a teacher.

Too bad for you that you didn't, good for him that he didn't have to put up with an ignorant arrogant buffoon like you (thoughI'm sure he has had some students just as bad, or worse.....comes with the territory)

[Frank Krygowski]

Actually, I don't remember a student as bad as Tom. Remember, Tom
wouldn't qualify to enter the program. And the required level of
intelligence plus student's workload would have driven him away within a
few weeks.

The most arrogant student I recall was in a freshman level introductory
course taken by students in several majors. When some minor question was
asked about motorcycles, he loudly disagreed with my answer, then
claimed he knew more than I did about motorcycles because he rode a
Ducati and I rode a BMW!

He was gone within six months.

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- Frank Krygowski