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JAJG

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Apr 21, 2002, 7:35:17 PM4/21/02
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I recently installed the Shimano Flight Deck cyclecomputer.
Once the display goes into the power save mode it will not restart in
accordance with the manual.......i.e., by either pressing one of the buttons
or wheel movement is detected.

I tried a different display (a friend's) with same result.

I can start up the display by pressing the "b" button (reset) on the
bottom...........once the display returns, all seems normal ...speed, etc
except the trip time and distance doesn't start unless you press the
"start/stop" button.

The manual calls for the computer to start up automatically when "input is
detected" so there definitely seems to be something wrong.

Any troubleshooting suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks.


Michael P. Bassler

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Apr 21, 2002, 8:29:27 PM4/21/02
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Normal operation for the 6501. When the computer goes into the power saving
mode in order for it to start operating you have to press the B button on
the back of the computer. Wheel movement, buttons on the hoods are not
recognized.


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Mike Jacoubowsky

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Apr 21, 2002, 8:28:34 PM4/21/02
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The *only* buttons that a 6501 Flight Deck will respond to, when it needs to
be woken up, are the ones on the bottom of the unit. The buttons on the
handlebar will have no effect.

The trip time/distance not starting up on its own is normal... as you noted,
you need to push the left side start/stop button.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com


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Abram Dancy

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Apr 22, 2002, 9:51:15 PM4/22/02
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That's a step back from the 6500. The 6500 will wake up from either the
hood buttons or wheel rotation. I want the computer to run whether or not I
remember to wake it up when I start riding. Did they at least make the
delay before going into power-save significant?

I don't understand why so many companies hard code the behavior of little
things like this, instead of allowing the user to configure it the way they
might prefer. Making it configurable is an improvement that is basically
free, in terms of manufactured cost.

Abram Dancy

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JAJG

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Apr 22, 2002, 10:42:06 PM4/22/02
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I haven't timed it , but the delay prior to powersave "seems" long (30
minutes?).
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Mike Jacoubowsky

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Apr 22, 2002, 11:23:29 PM4/22/02
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> That's a step back from the 6500. The 6500 will wake up from either the
> hood buttons or wheel rotation. I want the computer to run whether or not
I
> remember to wake it up when I start riding. Did they at least make the
> delay before going into power-save significant?

It's an aggressive power-saving measure that made it practical to have a
wireless option, from what I understand. I'm also sure that, if they gave
customers the option of having it turn on automatically, many customers
would choose that... and, in spite of being told that it would limit battery
life to, say, just one year... not be very happy when their battery ran out.

In my perfect world, things would be different. In that world, Shimano
would make money be selling the interface hardware, and allow other computer
manufacturers to tap into their system. This way you would have all manner
of choices as companies like Cateye, Avocet, Ciclomaster, Sigma and Vetta
could all compete to make an ultimate computer. Shimano could simply raise
the pricing on their wiring harnesses and make their profit there, and not
really care about losing computer sales.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
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SDAbrams

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May 3, 2002, 2:42:42 PM5/3/02
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What we really need is a manual that properly describes the product. The
manual that came with my 6501 says nothing about having to press the bottom
button to awaken the computer. It also states that the computer will display
gear ratios, but it does not.

What I most dislike about the 6501, however, is the location of the button on
the left brake hood. Too often, I accidentally press that button while riding,
thereby shutting off the trip distance and trip time functions. I have to keep
monitoring the computer to make sure that it is recording trip distance and
time.

When I first got the 6501, it functioned erratically. I finally called
Shimano, and they told me to install a shim to tighten up the electrical
connections.

All in all, I would not recommend the 6501.

Steve Juniper

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May 4, 2002, 1:15:43 AM5/4/02
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On the other hand, although my 6501 was problematic when I first got it,
when I had someone who knew what they were doing set it up properly it
worked fine (including ratios). It took me a while to learn to keep my thumb
off the first button (I guess I'm a slow learner), but I have no problem
with it now, with about 3,000 miles on it.
The only problem I've had since occurred after I adjusted the sensor so
that it was centered on the magnet. That doesn't work - you have to have one
end or the other of the sensor over the magnet, not the middle (doesn't seem
logical, but does the trick).

--

Steve

Steve Juniper (sjun...@pacbell.net)
Berkeley, California
"Every day above ground is a good day!"

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XXXXXXXXXXXXX

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May 4, 2002, 7:34:04 AM5/4/02
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MM I've had mine for about 8 months and although I havent done that much
distance with it, I cant say I have had any problems with it - all the
functions work as they should I love not having to take my hands off the
levers to check my progress. Must agree though I do hate the fact that the
computer doesnt wake up automatically!

Maybe I've been lucky so far...

Noel


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Steve Juniper

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May 4, 2002, 11:50:26 AM5/4/02
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Mine invariably wakes up as soon as the front wheel makes one revolution.
Yours must be defective - why not take it back for a replacement, popping
the new one on it before leaving the store to be sure... (after being sure
the sensor is placed correctly, magnet toward either end - NOT in middle).
--
Steve

Steve Juniper (sjun...@pacbell.net)
Berkeley, California
"Every day above ground is a good day!"

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