Low stack height headset????
Tom H
last week. I emphasised that I also needed one of those canti brake
hangers by fitting some canti brakes to the forks. Needless to say
they forgot. The only way I can envisage out of this situation is to
find a headset with a sufficiently lower stack height than the old 105
set I had installed. I guess I need about 5mm as the fork looks like
it's been cut a bit short. Any ideas?
Tom
John Henderson
wrote:
"Aftermarket cable hangers for use with centerpull type brakes. Clamps
on stem or threadless fork column for a secure feel. Please call us to
find your correct size."
http://www.lickbike.com/i1482250.htm
http://www.bikeusa.com/components/cables/cables3.htm#fr
John Henderson, New York City, USA
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thomas....@bakeratlas.com (Tom H) writes:
Hi Tom,
That's really a shame...hope you voiced your "displeasure". There are
cable stops that clamp to the stem (that portion that is inserted into
the steerer), two different diameters for 1" and 1 1/8" stems. QBP sells
them and your LBS should get one and install it for you...maybe for free.
Regards,
Bill Tobalske
Tom Paterson
> headset fitted at my LBS
>last week. I emphasised that I also needed one of those canti brake
>hangers by fitting some canti brakes to the forks. Needless to say
>they forgot. The only way I can envisage out of this situation is to
>find a headset with a sufficiently lower stack height than the old 105
>set I had installed. I guess I need about 5mm as the fork looks like
>it's been cut a bit short. Any ideas?
Easy: they buy you a new fork and do what you said in the first place. If paint
matching is a problem, they can buy you a new frame and fork and eat their
mistake. Or an equal or better headset, as a second choice, NOT offering you a
"deal" of selling something "at cost" (you'll still pay tax at least).
This "forget" stuff is why work orders are written down and signed off on.
"This is what I want done PERIOD" signed TH. Do you have your copy of the
repair order? Don't let them get it away from you.
--Tom Paterson
Alex Rodriguez
thomas....@bakeratlas.com says...
You can get hangers that clamp to the stem and don't need to be held in
place by your headset. You can also try to find a stem with a hanger
built in, not that common now but in the past they were quite common.
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Pete Geurds
cable hanger.
My LBS gave me a 11/8" clamp on cable hanger which I fitted to the top of a
tall nut and it works fine.
(Wasn't his fault either, he had a box full from V brake conversions!)
Pete Geurds
Douglassville, PA
GORDON
paid for a service/ goods that were not what you requested and they (under
the sale of goods act) have to do something about it. If you get no joy, go
to the CA right away and see if they cant get the shop to do anything
(usually a phone call from them is all it takes to get things moving).
There's too much of this going on to let these people get away with it. If
that fails tell them you will get the work done elsewhere and sue them for
the money it cost and the inconvenience caused.
I love it in this world! If I die, I want to be asleep like my grandad was
and not screaming with fear like his passengers.
A Muzi
Yes.
Politely explain to the shop owner that you need a new fork and you will be
back to pick up the bike when it's right.
Everyone errs. Adult men admit it, make it right, and go on with life.
--
Andrew Muzi
http://www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April 1971
A Muzi
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>-snip-
>
> If I die,
>
>-snip-
Now there's an optimist!
Mark Hickey
A suggestion no one else seems to have come up with (and one that
provides a certain "poetic justice")...
The Chris King "GripNut" model has a minimum stack height of 33mm, vs.
the 37.5mm of your 105. That gives you 4.5mm, which is likely what
you'll need.
A CK headset costs a bit more than a 105 headset, of course... but
less than a new fork (most of 'em anyway). They should offer to swap
it out, or at the very least ask you to pay $20-30 for the upgrade.
There's also a Ritchey Logic headset that's got a 33mm stack height
(and it's cheaper than the 105), if the above doesn't work... ;-)
Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $695 ti frame
Tom H
> The Chris King "GripNut" model has a minimum stack height of 33mm, vs.
> the 37.5mm of your 105. That gives you 4.5mm, which is likely what
> you'll need.
>
> A CK headset costs a bit more than a 105 headset, of course... but
> less than a new fork (most of 'em anyway). They should offer to swap
> it out, or at the very least ask you to pay $20-30 for the upgrade.
>
Thanks for the advice! I'll see if they'll swap it.
> There's also a Ritchey Logic headset that's got a 33mm stack height
> (and it's cheaper than the 105), if the above doesn't work... ;-)
>
I like the look of the Chris King!
Tom
Qui si parla Campagnolo
last week. I emphasised that I also needed one of those canti brake
hangers by fitting some canti brakes to the forks. Needless to say
they forgot. >>
Ooops. Many clamp onto the stem hangers exist-for 22.2mm stems as well as 25.4
steerers..
Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl ST.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com
David L. Johnson
Have them get you a new fork? It seems that you did tell them what you
needed, and they did not listen...
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David
> The Chris King "GripNut" model has a minimum stack height of 33mm, vs.
> the 37.5mm of your 105. That gives you 4.5mm, which is likely what
> you'll need.
The gripnut won't work in this case for two reasons - first, the design
(internal collet vs. preload nut and locknut) precludes the use of spacers
(since some of these holders fit between the preload nut and locknut), and
second, the King can have a stack height from 33 to 38mm because of how the
collet works, not because the headset itself is shorter - you can
essentially have the steerer tube recessed into the headset, because the
collet threads onto the steerer, and sits lower in the headset then the
threads of a locknut would (the top nut threads onto the bottom nut for a
gripnut headset - as you tighten the top nut, you compress the collet,
tightening it like a clamp onto the steerer tube of the fork)
> There's also a Ritchey Logic headset that's got a 33mm stack height
> (and it's cheaper than the 105), if the above doesn't work... ;-)
The Ritchey headset could work, if it's a true low-profile headset.
tubus import en framebouw
It's their mistake, so the shop should solve the problem with a new fork
if need be, but it is probably possible to machine the top of the
headtube a bit shorter. If they have to do this by hand, they won't
make this mistake twice ;)
--
Marten
richard
LOWEST stack on the market.
Doug Milliken
Going way back to the early 1980's, I remember that the Campagnolo Track
(Pista?) headset had a really short stack height. Might be worth checking
on this (Southerland's Manual??) if it means saving the fork.
Mike Latondresse
"richard" <ar...@pdnt.com> wrote in message
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> I'm afraid the "old" 105 (say, 1998 or earlier, possibly 1999) was the
> LOWEST stack on the market.
There are others currently on the market that have a stack height equal
or less than the old 105 ones and they are cheap.
A Muzi
> > >> last week. I emphasised that I also needed one of those canti brake
> > >> hangers by fitting some canti brakes to the forks. Needless to say
> > >> they forgot. The only way I can envisage out of this situation is to
> > >> find a headset with a sufficiently lower stack height than the old
105
> > >> set I had installed. I guess I need about 5mm as the fork looks like
> > >> it's been cut a bit short. Any ideas?
> On 5 Apr 2002, richard wrote:
> > I'm afraid the "old" 105 (say, 1998 or earlier, possibly 1999) was the
> > LOWEST stack on the market.
"Doug Milliken" <bd...@bfn.org> wrote in message
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>
> Going way back to the early 1980's, I remember that the Campagnolo Track
> (Pista?) headset had a really short stack height. Might be worth checking
> on this (Southerland's Manual??) if it means saving the fork.
One, the shop should make it right and if that means a new fork, so be it.
This is the correct answer to your specific problem. It is a problem of
error or indolence and not a mechanical one.
Mechanically, good shop paractice and the rule in my house is to drop the
fork through the head tube, mark off 42mm and cut. This allows a Campagnolo
Super Record (very tall) headset or anything else on earth with a couple of
spacers. (Remove the fat aluminum spacer if using a centerpull hanger.) In
this way, employees have a standard instead of an interpretive state of
chaos. Obviously we have newer standards for AheadSet systems.
Regarding headsets, "short" is relative. Indeed the 1040 was at one time
considered short until the world discovered drugs (Shimano 105). It is
indeed possible to cut the upper (never the lower) headlug area to gain up
to four mm. I have a stack of freecut upper headlug sections that are within
0.1mm because I have done _a lot _ of these! I teach my employees to use
tools and we do not have a "guide" Mill afterwards of course.
After such an interesting digression, go back and get you new fork today!