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Catrike Rider
Jul 29, 2023, 3:38:10 PM7/29/23
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Going over my Catrike Expedition after my last ride, I noticed that
one of the steel pedal extenders had some rust on it, so this morning
I took both of them off the Catrike for a little clean up and paint.
The extenders came off the cranks just fine, but separating them from
the pedals was not so easy, even in a vice. I chose not to put a
helper bar on the wrench, I hate doing that, and instead hit them with
penetrating oil. A quick check of the pedals also revealed a little
resistance on the left one. I pulled the inner shafts out and hit the
bearings with grease, which solved that problem.
The pedals and extenders are eight and a half years old with 20K miles
on them, and I decided to put them back on and use them for now.
They'll probably come apart easy when the new ones got here. The
pedals are Shimano, I don't know the model number, but the new ones
are Shimano PDED500, and look just like them, so that's probably what
they are. They'll go in my spare bin. They'll clean up just fine.
A quick check of the Wellgo pedals on my wife's Pocket, and one of
them wasn't spinning so good.. I'm not going to bother taking them
apart... so new pedals fo her too. Some Shimano Flat pedals, Shimano
PD-EF202.
Roger Meriman
Jul 29, 2023, 4:31:43 PM7/29/23
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flat pedals) got just shy of 10k miles. Neither of the MTB or Gravel bikes
are likely to last that long, tend to get the paint scraped off within a
few hundred miles.
Roger Merriman
Catrike Rider
Jul 29, 2023, 4:49:33 PM7/29/23
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 20:31:39 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
wrote:
They do look a little rough, but they function just fine. You know
that my pedals are a bit further off the ground than yours, and are
very seldom off asphalt.
wrote:
that my pedals are a bit further off the ground than yours, and are
very seldom off asphalt.
Catrike Rider
Jul 30, 2023, 9:52:06 AM7/30/23
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bike, I noticed the model number etched on one side of the spindle.
They are PDEM500s.. a little different from the new ones, PDED500s.
They're just a little bit wider, the blurb says that's so the rider
can pedal better if he fails to get clipped in on a quick start. Of
course, I don't have that problem.
Reading glasses and good light make all the difference. I don't
normally wear them, but they're also my safety glasses.
Roger Meriman
Jul 30, 2023, 2:36:15 PM7/30/23
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first proper road bike. Did try single sided/flat pedals which where fairly
awful, but liked the the double sided SPD 520 I think!
But I liked the proper pinned MTB pedals and as my road bike is a Gravel
bike that works
>
> Reading glasses and good light make all the difference. I don't
> normally wear them, but they're also my safety glasses.
>
I’m bit younger so not quite there yet!
> Reading glasses and good light make all the difference. I don't
> normally wear them, but they're also my safety glasses.
>
Roger Merriman
Catrike Rider
Jul 30, 2023, 3:11:17 PM7/30/23
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On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 18:36:12 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
It's almost impossible for me to ride without being attached to the
pedals, and on the Catrike, it's can be dangerous. If your foot drops
off the pedal, it's likely to contact the ground and get run over by
the Catrike's crossarms. I've heard of people getting broken ankles.
My wife hit a pothole and suffered a very nasty bruise before I could
convince her to clip in.
>But I liked the proper pinned MTB pedals and as my road bike is a Gravel
>bike that works
>>
>> Reading glasses and good light make all the difference. I don't
>> normally wear them, but they're also my safety glasses.
>>
>
>I’m bit younger so not quite there yet!
>
>Roger Merriman
I had stronger reading glasses before I had catact surgery. Now I only
use them for extreme close-up work.
pedals, and on the Catrike, it's can be dangerous. If your foot drops
off the pedal, it's likely to contact the ground and get run over by
the Catrike's crossarms. I've heard of people getting broken ankles.
My wife hit a pothole and suffered a very nasty bruise before I could
convince her to clip in.
>But I liked the proper pinned MTB pedals and as my road bike is a Gravel
>bike that works
>>
>> Reading glasses and good light make all the difference. I don't
>> normally wear them, but they're also my safety glasses.
>>
>
>I’m bit younger so not quite there yet!
>
>Roger Merriman
use them for extreme close-up work.
Roger Meriman
Jul 30, 2023, 4:20:46 PM7/30/23
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route looking quite spaceage!
>
>> But I liked the proper pinned MTB pedals and as my road bike is a Gravel
>> bike that works
>>>
>>> Reading glasses and good light make all the difference. I don't
>>> normally wear them, but they're also my safety glasses.
>>>
>>
>> I’m bit younger so not quite there yet!
>>
>> Roger Merriman
>
> I had stronger reading glasses before I had catact surgery. Now I only
> use them for extreme close-up work.
>
Roger Merriman
>> But I liked the proper pinned MTB pedals and as my road bike is a Gravel
>> bike that works
>>>
>>> Reading glasses and good light make all the difference. I don't
>>> normally wear them, but they're also my safety glasses.
>>>
>>
>> I’m bit younger so not quite there yet!
>>
>> Roger Merriman
>
> I had stronger reading glasses before I had catact surgery. Now I only
> use them for extreme close-up work.
>
Catrike Rider
Jul 30, 2023, 5:25:37 PM7/30/23
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On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 20:20:42 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
Oh no, my Catrike is far from looking spaceage. It's all frame, no
bodywork, outboard wire spoke wheels without fenders.
>>> But I liked the proper pinned MTB pedals and as my road bike is a Gravel
>>> bike that works
>>>>
>>>> Reading glasses and good light make all the difference. I don't
>>>> normally wear them, but they're also my safety glasses.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I?m bit younger so not quite there yet!
bodywork, outboard wire spoke wheels without fenders.
>>> But I liked the proper pinned MTB pedals and as my road bike is a Gravel
>>> bike that works
>>>>
>>>> Reading glasses and good light make all the difference. I don't
>>>> normally wear them, but they're also my safety glasses.
>>>>
>>>
Roger Meriman
Jul 30, 2023, 6:08:35 PM7/30/23
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ones apparently can shift, though I see them mostly en route to said
circuit either navigating the heavy traffic in area or fairly awful
cycleways neither of which are really such bikes forte!
>
>>>> But I liked the proper pinned MTB pedals and as my road bike is a Gravel
>>>> bike that works
>>>>>
>>>>> Reading glasses and good light make all the difference. I don't
>>>>> normally wear them, but they're also my safety glasses.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I?m bit younger so not quite there yet!
>>>>
>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>
>>> I had stronger reading glasses before I had catact surgery. Now I only
>>> use them for extreme close-up work.
>>>
>>
>> Roger Merriman
>
Roger Merriman
>>>> But I liked the proper pinned MTB pedals and as my road bike is a Gravel
>>>> bike that works
>>>>>
>>>>> Reading glasses and good light make all the difference. I don't
>>>>> normally wear them, but they're also my safety glasses.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I?m bit younger so not quite there yet!
>>>>
>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>
>>> I had stronger reading glasses before I had catact surgery. Now I only
>>> use them for extreme close-up work.
>>>
>>
>> Roger Merriman
>
Catrike Rider
Jul 30, 2023, 6:27:19 PM7/30/23
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On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 22:08:31 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
>>> I?d imagine so! Is a bike race circuit near work, and see the recumbents on
>>> route looking quite spaceage!
>>
>> Oh no, my Catrike is far from looking spaceage. It's all frame, no
>> bodywork, outboard wire spoke wheels without fenders.
>
>Are some I see though more likely in the parks like that, The space age
>ones apparently can shift, though I see them mostly en route to said
>circuit either navigating the heavy traffic in area or fairly awful
>cycleways neither of which are really such bikes forte!
Well.... I can shift... 3x9.... and indeed, there are trike races...
>>
>> Oh no, my Catrike is far from looking spaceage. It's all frame, no
>> bodywork, outboard wire spoke wheels without fenders.
>
>Are some I see though more likely in the parks like that, The space age
>ones apparently can shift, though I see them mostly en route to said
>circuit either navigating the heavy traffic in area or fairly awful
>cycleways neither of which are really such bikes forte!
AMuzi
Jul 30, 2023, 7:12:46 PM7/30/23
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https://tricycleassociation.org.uk/
also:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfromthepast/HWTRIKE.JPG
"ideal for spastics"
--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
Roger Meriman
Jul 30, 2023, 7:18:23 PM7/30/23
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which was clearly a Gravel bike by any other name had 3/8 and you where
always in the wrong chain ring on that!
The old MTB with its 3/9 wasn’t too bad for that on the trails but was a
right pain on the commute, ie shift chain ring, shift cassette and then
repeat! Hence it’s a 1/9 now and much better for that if rather specific to
that, ie is heavy and a fairly limited gear range, in that anything steep
is hard work, not sure what the limit is but certainly hills into double
digits grades are fairly unpleasant! Where as before even with the weight
could just spin up such things!
>>>>>> But I liked the proper pinned MTB pedals and as my road bike is
> a Gravel
>>>>>> bike that works
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Reading glasses and good light make all the difference. I don't
>>>>>>> normally wear them, but they're also my safety glasses.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I?m bit younger so not quite there yet!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>>
>>>>> I had stronger reading glasses before I had catact surgery. Now I only
>>>>> use them for extreme close-up work.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>
>> Roger Merriman
>>
>
Catrike Rider
Jul 30, 2023, 7:38:18 PM7/30/23
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Works for me. I'll be spazing out tomorrow morning.
Catrike Rider
Jul 30, 2023, 7:50:35 PM7/30/23
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On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 23:18:20 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
I use the big 53 tooth 99.99% of the time.
Frank Krygowski
Jul 30, 2023, 8:04:45 PM7/30/23
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On 7/30/2023 7:12 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>
> The English do it differently:
> https://tricycleassociation.org.uk/
>
> also:
> http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfromthepast/HWTRIKE.JPG
I did a brief test ride on one of those many, many years ago. It seemed
>
> The English do it differently:
> https://tricycleassociation.org.uk/
>
> also:
> http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfromthepast/HWTRIKE.JPG
extremely twitchy on the straight and very weird in turns. I thought it
would require learning a new set of reflexes.
Perhaps thats why most in the photo wear crash helmets?
--
- Frank Krygowski
Catrike Rider
Jul 31, 2023, 2:51:21 AM7/31/23
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generally referred to as "trailer park trikes." That, in my opinion,
is one of the few places they are fit to be ridden.
Catrike Rider
Jul 31, 2023, 3:48:37 AM7/31/23
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in the back. They're not very popular, and one reason is that unless
they have a differential, only one rear wheel is driven, making them
handle differently for right vs left turns. They will also pull in the
direct of the undriven wheel, and thus disallows riding "no hands." A
differential solves that problem, but also, of course, robs power.
John B.
Jul 31, 2023, 3:52:42 AM7/31/23
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Roger Meriman
Jul 31, 2023, 3:53:00 AM7/31/23
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folks, in that the bike is used as about only bike they can use now, where
as recumbent folks are into such bikes, ie it’s a choice.
As a general rule at least.
Roger Merriman
Catrike Rider
Jul 31, 2023, 4:29:36 AM7/31/23
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 14:52:23 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Cargo bikes and people carriers are an altogather different kind of
bike.
wrote:
bike.
Catrike Rider
Jul 31, 2023, 4:45:52 AM7/31/23
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 07:52:56 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
Some folks are reluctant to give up their two wheelers. I see them on
the bike trails. I call then wobblers, bless their hearts, as they
weave back and forth, unable to go fast enough to maintain stability.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bless_your_heart
the bike trails. I call then wobblers, bless their hearts, as they
weave back and forth, unable to go fast enough to maintain stability.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bless_your_heart
John B.
Jul 31, 2023, 4:49:51 AM7/31/23
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 04:29:20 -0400, Catrike Rider
Well :-) They are still a tricycle :-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
--
Cheers,
John B.
Catrike Rider
Jul 31, 2023, 5:23:12 AM7/31/23
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 15:49:38 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>
Indeed, but not the kind of tricycle I refer to as "trailer park
trikes."
I suppose, though, given the traffic I see in your pictures, a
"trailer park trike" would fit in there without any problem. In most
of the USA, however, a high seat three wheeler traveling under 10 MPH
on public roads would cause problems.
Again, in my opinion, they're not safe at faster speeds because they
don't lean while cornering and given the high center of gravity, can
easily tip over. I"ve heard of trikes similar to mine, with a much
lower COG tipping over.
trikes."
I suppose, though, given the traffic I see in your pictures, a
"trailer park trike" would fit in there without any problem. In most
of the USA, however, a high seat three wheeler traveling under 10 MPH
on public roads would cause problems.
Again, in my opinion, they're not safe at faster speeds because they
don't lean while cornering and given the high center of gravity, can
easily tip over. I"ve heard of trikes similar to mine, with a much
lower COG tipping over.
Roger Meriman
Jul 31, 2023, 8:04:29 AM7/31/23
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are a by the nature easier to use, be that storage or use, ie can access
parks and other places that parents and kids would like to use. Which is
the most often types using them.
Trikes as a general rule don’t fit in most cycle infrastructure unless it’s
very new and wide otherwise there is always some pinch point that can’t be
passed by trikes or wheelchairs often as well.
Roger Merrriman
AMuzi
Jul 31, 2023, 9:47:54 AM7/31/23
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carriers) use that style.
Frank Krygowski
Jul 31, 2023, 1:59:43 PM7/31/23
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On 7/31/2023 8:04 AM, Roger Meriman wrote:
>
> Trikes as a general rule don’t fit in most cycle infrastructure unless it’s
> very new and wide otherwise there is always some pinch point that can’t be
> passed by trikes or wheelchairs often as well.
We've even had trouble getting out tandem through some terribly
>
> Trikes as a general rule don’t fit in most cycle infrastructure unless it’s
> very new and wide otherwise there is always some pinch point that can’t be
> passed by trikes or wheelchairs often as well.
positioned bollards on one bike trail. And I've seen folks having to
unhitch kiddie trailers to wiggle them around obstacles.
Cycles do come in a wide variety, and facility designers sometimes don't
remember that fact.
--
- Frank Krygowski
Catrike Rider
Jul 31, 2023, 2:50:35 PM7/31/23
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Tom Kunich
Jul 31, 2023, 3:12:04 PM7/31/23
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On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 11:36:15 AM UTC-7, Roger Meriman wrote:
>
> I’m bit younger so not quite there yet!
>
> Roger Merriman
Braggard.
>
> I’m bit younger so not quite there yet!
>
> Roger Merriman
AMuzi
Jul 31, 2023, 3:31:45 PM7/31/23
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On 7/31/2023 12:59 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 7/31/2023 8:04 AM, Roger Meriman wrote:
>>
>> Trikes as a general rule don’t fit in most cycle
> On 7/31/2023 8:04 AM, Roger Meriman wrote:
>>
>> infrastructure unless it’s
>> very new and wide otherwise there is always some pinch
>> point that can’t be
>> passed by trikes or wheelchairs often as well.
>
> We've even had trouble getting out tandem through some
> terribly positioned bollards on one bike trail. And I've
> seen folks having to unhitch kiddie trailers to wiggle them
> around obstacles.
>
> Cycles do come in a wide variety, and facility designers
> sometimes don't remember that fact.
>
Politician gets favorable press ('doing something for those
>
> We've even had trouble getting out tandem through some
> terribly positioned bollards on one bike trail. And I've
> seen folks having to unhitch kiddie trailers to wiggle them
> around obstacles.
>
> Cycles do come in a wide variety, and facility designers
> sometimes don't remember that fact.
>
darned cyclists'), various contractors pad the projects just
as any other public project and kick back to the politicians
and the staff who write and contract. Mistresses all around
get new Mercedes. It's a win-win-win !
If anything gets built at all it's a miracle[1] and if one
ever were useful at a reasonable cost it would be headline
news. Don't hold your breath.
[1]
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-03-11/new-cost-estimate-for-high-speed-rail-puts-california-bullet-train-100-billion-in-the-red
Catrike Rider
Jul 31, 2023, 3:42:12 PM7/31/23
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 12:04:25 GMT, Roger Meriman <ro...@sarlet.com>
wrote:
Actually, I've never had a problem. I guess the trails here in Florida
are built to accomodate Trikes.
wrote:
are built to accomodate Trikes.
Catrike Rider
Jul 31, 2023, 4:00:51 PM7/31/23
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 15:42:06 -0400, Catrike Rider
Actually, I never had any problems riding the Catrike in Ohio either.
Frank Krygowski
Jul 31, 2023, 4:58:15 PM7/31/23
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On 7/31/2023 3:31 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> On 7/31/2023 12:59 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> On 7/31/2023 8:04 AM, Roger Meriman wrote:
>>>
>>> Trikes as a general rule don’t fit in most cycle
>>> infrastructure unless it’s
>>> very new and wide otherwise there is always some pinch
>>> point that can’t be
>>> passed by trikes or wheelchairs often as well.
>>
>> We've even had trouble getting out tandem through some
>> terribly positioned bollards on one bike trail. And I've
>> seen folks having to unhitch kiddie trailers to wiggle them
>> around obstacles.
>>
>> Cycles do come in a wide variety, and facility designers
>> sometimes don't remember that fact.
>>
>
> Politician gets favorable press ('doing something for those darned
> cyclists'), various contractors pad the projects just as any other
> public project and kick back to the politicians and the staff who write
> and contract. Mistresses all around get new Mercedes. It's a win-win-win !
>
> If anything gets built at all it's a miracle[1] and if one ever were
> useful at a reasonable cost it would be headline news. Don't hold your
> breath.
The specific example I was thinking of had none of those elements. It
> On 7/31/2023 12:59 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> On 7/31/2023 8:04 AM, Roger Meriman wrote:
>>>
>>> Trikes as a general rule don’t fit in most cycle
>>> infrastructure unless it’s
>>> very new and wide otherwise there is always some pinch
>>> point that can’t be
>>> passed by trikes or wheelchairs often as well.
>>
>> We've even had trouble getting out tandem through some
>> terribly positioned bollards on one bike trail. And I've
>> seen folks having to unhitch kiddie trailers to wiggle them
>> around obstacles.
>>
>> Cycles do come in a wide variety, and facility designers
>> sometimes don't remember that fact.
>>
>
> Politician gets favorable press ('doing something for those darned
> cyclists'), various contractors pad the projects just as any other
> public project and kick back to the politicians and the staff who write
> and contract. Mistresses all around get new Mercedes. It's a win-win-win !
>
> If anything gets built at all it's a miracle[1] and if one ever were
> useful at a reasonable cost it would be headline news. Don't hold your
> breath.
was simply an ignorant designer with good intentions.
This was in the nearby metropark. The guy designing their bike
facilities has a degree in Landscape Architecture. When he was fresh out
of school and newly hired, he was told to design a bi-directional bike
lane on a park road - in my view, a fundamentally flawed concept, as
usual. He decided that it was necessary to physically keep cars out by
planting chunks of telephone poles across the path at 20+ locations,
four of them side by side at each location, with something like 28"
between them. Unacceptable by AASHTO standards, and stupid by any standard.
I spent years trying to educate him on that and other matters until he
retired, but it did little good. The tandem problem happened years later
at the entrance to another similar path. By then I'd convinced him that
at if posts were necessary (which they were not) at least the AASHTO
minimum spacing was necessary. But the start of this new segment was in
a weirdly narrow spot, and he angled the line of posts in such a way
that we couldn't ride through them with the tandem. We had to dismount,
or at best "scooter" through with our feet on the ground.
Trouble was, he actually was a really nice guy and sincerely believed he
was doing what was best. There were no kickbacks or politics involved.
He just had zero knowledge or experience about riding a bike.
BTW, just before he retired, I and some other cyclists finally got the
metropark board of trustees to agree that all future facilities would
meet AASHTO standards. Those standards are far from perfect, but at the
time they were far better than what this guy was drawing up.
--
- Frank Krygowski
Roger Meriman
Jul 31, 2023, 5:50:29 PM7/31/23
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are the less likely you’ll manage unless your bike is standard.
More modern stuff around london is fine, other cyclists might have to wait
to overtake and so on. But trikes etc fit, as do ambulances in some places
which they use to by pass the traffic!
It’s the stuff few decades ago that is just narrow enough for a bike and
that’s it, with various pinch points etc.
Roger Merriman
Roger Meriman
Jul 31, 2023, 5:50:29 PM7/31/23
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general most organisations have kinda learnt that bikes aren’t just your
standard diamond frames, the problem is councils and parks/areas who will
want barriers as anti social motorbikes, though they seem to loosing that
argument, thankfully.
Roger Merriman
John B.
Jul 31, 2023, 7:04:26 PM7/31/23
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 14:31:50 -0500, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>On 7/31/2023 12:59 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> On 7/31/2023 8:04 AM, Roger Meriman wrote:
>>>
>>> Trikes as a general rule don’t fit in most cycle
>On 7/31/2023 12:59 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> On 7/31/2023 8:04 AM, Roger Meriman wrote:
>>>
>>> infrastructure unless it’s
>>> very new and wide otherwise there is always some pinch
>>> point that can’t be
>>> passed by trikes or wheelchairs often as well.
>>
>> We've even had trouble getting out tandem through some
>> terribly positioned bollards on one bike trail. And I've
>> seen folks having to unhitch kiddie trailers to wiggle them
>> around obstacles.
>>
>> Cycles do come in a wide variety, and facility designers
>> sometimes don't remember that fact.
>>
>
>Politician gets favorable press ('doing something for those
>darned cyclists'), various contractors pad the projects just
>as any other public project and kick back to the politicians
>and the staff who write and contract. Mistresses all around
>get new Mercedes. It's a win-win-win !
>
>If anything gets built at all it's a miracle[1] and if one
>ever were useful at a reasonable cost it would be headline
>news. Don't hold your breath.
>
>
>[1]
>https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-03-11/new-cost-estimate-for-high-speed-rail-puts-california-bullet-train-100-billion-in-the-red
Well, why not? After all you live in the most expensive economy in the
>>
>> We've even had trouble getting out tandem through some
>> terribly positioned bollards on one bike trail. And I've
>> seen folks having to unhitch kiddie trailers to wiggle them
>> around obstacles.
>>
>> Cycles do come in a wide variety, and facility designers
>> sometimes don't remember that fact.
>>
>
>Politician gets favorable press ('doing something for those
>darned cyclists'), various contractors pad the projects just
>as any other public project and kick back to the politicians
>and the staff who write and contract. Mistresses all around
>get new Mercedes. It's a win-win-win !
>
>If anything gets built at all it's a miracle[1] and if one
>ever were useful at a reasonable cost it would be headline
>news. Don't hold your breath.
>
>
>[1]
>https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-03-11/new-cost-estimate-for-high-speed-rail-puts-california-bullet-train-100-billion-in-the-red
world. You can't get the work done for 20 pennies when you pay 20
dollars to the guy doing it :-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
John B.
Jul 31, 2023, 7:12:40 PM7/31/23
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front and two in the rear, not to mention the Hansum Cab, mentioned by
Sherlock Holmes, and Roman chariot.
--
Cheers,
John B.
AMuzi
Jul 31, 2023, 8:04:34 PM7/31/23
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>>> very new and wide otherwise there is always some pinch point that canÂ’t be
>>> passed by trikes or wheelchairs often as well.
>>>
>>> Roger Merrriman
>>
>> Actually, I've never had a problem. I guess the trails here in Florida
>> are built to accomodate Trikes.
>>
> The trails are for most part fine, in terms of physical barriers, and in
> general most organisations have kinda learnt that bikes aren’t just your
>>>
>>> Roger Merrriman
>>
>> Actually, I've never had a problem. I guess the trails here in Florida
>> are built to accomodate Trikes.
>>
> The trails are for most part fine, in terms of physical barriers, and in
> standard diamond frames, the problem is councils and parks/areas who will
> want barriers as anti social motorbikes, though they seem to loosing that
> argument, thankfully.
>
> Roger Merriman
>
>
IME these guys:
> want barriers as anti social motorbikes, though they seem to loosing that
> argument, thankfully.
>
> Roger Merriman
>
>
https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/NlpOn/s4/mongols.jpg
ride wherever the hell they feel like at the moment. Design
or signage notwithstanding.
AMuzi
Jul 31, 2023, 8:09:06 PM7/31/23
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My understanding of Hansoms and chariots is two wheels, left
and right, not three.
John B.
Jul 31, 2023, 8:22:38 PM7/31/23
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--
Cheers,
John B.
John B.
Jul 31, 2023, 8:31:17 PM7/31/23
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Catrike Rider
Aug 1, 2023, 2:55:25 AM8/1/23
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On Tue, 01 Aug 2023 07:22:33 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>
Indeed, but not what I call trailer park trikes. That's a specific
kind of trike.
kind of trike.
John B.
Aug 1, 2023, 4:06:19 AM8/1/23
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On Tue, 01 Aug 2023 02:55:21 -0400, Catrike Rider
Or maybe a Racing Trike?
https://tinyurl.com/zjatuknw
https://tinyurl.com/zjatuknw
Catrike Rider
Aug 1, 2023, 4:17:18 AM8/1/23
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On Tue, 01 Aug 2023 15:06:12 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>
This is what I am referring to as a trailer park trike.
Roger Meriman
Aug 1, 2023, 7:44:21 AM8/1/23
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always a small group of teens.
Roger Merriman
Andre Jute
Aug 4, 2023, 4:53:38 AM8/4/23
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On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 9:31:43 PM UTC+1, Roger Meriman wrote:
> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
> >
> Catrike Rider <sol...@drafting.not> wrote:
> >
> > Going over my Catrike Expedition after my last ride, I noticed that
> > one of the steel pedal extenders had some rust on it, so this morning
> > I took both of them off the Catrike for a little clean up and paint.
> > The extenders came off the cranks just fine, but separating them from
> > the pedals was not so easy, even in a vice. I chose not to put a
> > helper bar on the wrench, I hate doing that, and instead hit them with
> > penetrating oil. A quick check of the pedals also revealed a little
> > resistance on the left one. I pulled the inner shafts out and hit the
> > bearings with grease, which solved that problem.
> >
> > The pedals and extenders are eight and a half years old with 20K miles
> > on them, and I decided to put them back on and use them for now.
> > They'll probably come apart easy when the new ones got here. The
> > pedals are Shimano, I don't know the model number, but the new ones
> > are Shimano PDED500, and look just like them, so that's probably what
> > they are. They'll go in my spare bin. They'll clean up just fine.
> >
> > A quick check of the Wellgo pedals on my wife's Pocket, and one of
> > them wasn't spinning so good.. I'm not going to bother taking them
> > apart... so new pedals fo her too. Some Shimano Flat pedals, Shimano
> > PD-EF202.
> >
> You certainly get longer life than my bikes! The commute bike the DMR (MTB
> flat pedals) got just shy of 10k miles. Neither of the MTB or Gravel bikes
> are likely to last that long, tend to get the paint scraped off within a
> few hundred miles.
>
> Roger Merman
> > one of the steel pedal extenders had some rust on it, so this morning
> > I took both of them off the Catrike for a little clean up and paint.
> > The extenders came off the cranks just fine, but separating them from
> > the pedals was not so easy, even in a vice. I chose not to put a
> > helper bar on the wrench, I hate doing that, and instead hit them with
> > penetrating oil. A quick check of the pedals also revealed a little
> > resistance on the left one. I pulled the inner shafts out and hit the
> > bearings with grease, which solved that problem.
> >
> > The pedals and extenders are eight and a half years old with 20K miles
> > on them, and I decided to put them back on and use them for now.
> > They'll probably come apart easy when the new ones got here. The
> > pedals are Shimano, I don't know the model number, but the new ones
> > are Shimano PDED500, and look just like them, so that's probably what
> > they are. They'll go in my spare bin. They'll clean up just fine.
> >
> > A quick check of the Wellgo pedals on my wife's Pocket, and one of
> > them wasn't spinning so good.. I'm not going to bother taking them
> > apart... so new pedals fo her too. Some Shimano Flat pedals, Shimano
> > PD-EF202.
> >
> You certainly get longer life than my bikes! The commute bike the DMR (MTB
> flat pedals) got just shy of 10k miles. Neither of the MTB or Gravel bikes
> are likely to last that long, tend to get the paint scraped off within a
> few hundred miles.
>
>
I use VP-191 block pedals on all my bikes. They're silky smooth forever, presumably because the bearings are most effectively sealed. Built-in reflectors. Their only downside is that they're a bit short for the width of my size twelves, so that their outside edge falls nearer the middle than the outside of my footsole. But, since I routinely wear sandals or shoes with very thick rubber soles, I feel no pain, and just automatically spec the VP-191 on every new bike. I've recommended them for yonks and never met anyone who didn't love them once they got used to them.
>
A question does arise, Catrike: Can you ride a recliner with block pedals?
>
Andre Jute
"The brain of an engineer is a delicate instrument which must be
protected against the unevenness of the ground." -- Wifredo-Pelayo
Ricart Medina explaining to Enzo Ferrari why he wore such inordinately
thick rubber soles.
>
Catrike Rider
Aug 4, 2023, 5:29:55 AM8/4/23
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On Fri, 4 Aug 2023 01:53:36 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute
<fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have lots of trouble if I'm not clipped in. Of course some people
can and do ride trikes with flat pedals, but it's not recommended. The
problem is that on some reclined bikes like mine, your feet are out in
front of you instead of underneath you, and it's very easy for your
feet to slip off the pedals. When that happens your feet might hit and
stick to the ground and you'll run over them with the trike's cross
arms. My wife got a bad bruise on her calf before I convinced her to
clip in, but I have heard of people breaking their leg.
She always hated clipping in, and now that she only rides indoors on
rollers, she'll be using flat pedals again.
<fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
can and do ride trikes with flat pedals, but it's not recommended. The
problem is that on some reclined bikes like mine, your feet are out in
front of you instead of underneath you, and it's very easy for your
feet to slip off the pedals. When that happens your feet might hit and
stick to the ground and you'll run over them with the trike's cross
arms. My wife got a bad bruise on her calf before I convinced her to
clip in, but I have heard of people breaking their leg.
She always hated clipping in, and now that she only rides indoors on
rollers, she'll be using flat pedals again.
Roger Meriman
Aug 4, 2023, 5:56:55 AM8/4/23
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few years, can be rebuilt the bearing though I’ve rarely done so as the
pedal is generally fairly done by then anyway.
https://www.dmrbikes.com/Catalogue/Pedals/V12-2/V12
Realistically for flat pedal riding ie MTB/Gravel riding I need something
which is pinned as even with proper flat shoes with sticky ie soft rubber
sole’s you just slide on the pedals particularly when wet, okay around town
but even there I prefer having similar pinned pedals as the blocks could
slide if suitably wet.
They are broadly the type of pedals I used way back riding the hills pre
proper pinned pedals.
>>
> A question does arise, Catrike: Can you ride a recliner with block pedals?
Not unless has clip ie to hold the shoe to the pedal, he has said of the
> A question does arise, Catrike: Can you ride a recliner with block pedals?
dangers if your foot slips off.
>>
> Andre Jute
> "The brain of an engineer is a delicate instrument which must be
> protected against the unevenness of the ground." -- Wifredo-Pelayo
> Ricart Medina explaining to Enzo Ferrari why he wore such inordinately
> thick rubber soles.
>>
>
Roger Merriman
> Andre Jute
> "The brain of an engineer is a delicate instrument which must be
> protected against the unevenness of the ground." -- Wifredo-Pelayo
> Ricart Medina explaining to Enzo Ferrari why he wore such inordinately
> thick rubber soles.
>>
>
AMuzi
Aug 4, 2023, 9:31:35 AM8/4/23
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click-in pedal system on your vehicle. Simple platforms on
that design have inherent risk of injury.
Andre Jute
Aug 4, 2023, 9:42:10 AM8/4/23
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>
I've never given a full recliner a serious trial. I bought a Giant Revive semi-recliner on impulse but kept it only a couple of weeks before selling it to someone who stopped me on the road to make me an offer I couldn't refuse, nearly twice what I paid for the thing. I was happy to see it go. The small wheels didn't inspire confidence on the generally blacktop but rough lanes and small roads I ride, but most of all it reminded me too much of driving a Porsche in the city, with bus and big truck hubs above my sightline. Ironically, when I did get my ankles squashed it wasn't by a bus or a truck but an old Holden in the hands of a fat woman charging out of a side road and plowing right over my Bertone Spider -- and my ankles. -- AJ
>
Andre Jute
Aug 4, 2023, 9:51:39 AM8/4/23
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>
Hah!. On advice from the group I looked at those V12 pedals the last time I specced a new bike, thirteen or so years ago, and wondered what the pins would do to my shins or calves at the slightest awkward stop -- and went back to my trusted VP-191. I'm happy to hear you confirm I made the right decision. -- AJ
>
AMuzi
Aug 4, 2023, 10:58:24 AM8/4/23
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On 8/4/2023 8:51 AM, Andre Jute wrote:
>> DMR pedals are sealed it’s more the gunk I ride in, though they last good
>> few years, can be rebuilt the bearing though I’ve rarely done so as the
your foot slides off the pedal, the pavement just snaps
your ankle, far from those dangerous pins.
> On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 10:56:55 AM UTC+1, Roger Meriman wrote:
>> Andre Jute <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Andre Jute <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> few years, can be rebuilt the bearing though I’ve rarely done so as the
>> pedal is generally fairly done by then anyway.
>>
>> https://www.dmrbikes.com/Catalogue/Pedals/V12-2/V12
>>
>> Realistically for flat pedal riding ie MTB/Gravel riding I need something
>> which is pinned as even with proper flat shoes with sticky ie soft rubber
>> sole’s you just slide on the pedals particularly when wet, okay around town
>>
>> https://www.dmrbikes.com/Catalogue/Pedals/V12-2/V12
>>
>> Realistically for flat pedal riding ie MTB/Gravel riding I need something
>> which is pinned as even with proper flat shoes with sticky ie soft rubber
>> but even there I prefer having similar pinned pedals as the blocks could
>> slide if suitably wet.
>>
>> They are broadly the type of pedals I used way back riding the hills pre
>> proper pinned pedals.
>>>>
>>> A question does arise, Catrike: Can you ride a recliner with block pedals?
>> Not unless has clip ie to hold the shoe to the pedal, he has said of the
>> dangers if your foot slips off.
>>>>
>>> Andre Jute
>>> "The brain of an engineer is a delicate instrument which must be
>>> protected against the unevenness of the ground." -- Wifredo-Pelayo
>>> Ricart Medina explaining to Enzo Ferrari why he wore such inordinately
>>> thick rubber soles.
>>>>
>>>
>> Roger Merman
>>
> Hah!. On advice from the group I looked at those V12 pedals the last time I specced a new bike, thirteen or so years ago, and wondered what the pins would do to my shins or calves at the slightest awkward stop -- and went back to my trusted VP-191. I'm happy to hear you confirm I made the right decision. -- AJ
>>
The pins are not a problem with a recumbent tricycle. Once
>> slide if suitably wet.
>>
>> They are broadly the type of pedals I used way back riding the hills pre
>> proper pinned pedals.
>>>>
>>> A question does arise, Catrike: Can you ride a recliner with block pedals?
>> Not unless has clip ie to hold the shoe to the pedal, he has said of the
>> dangers if your foot slips off.
>>>>
>>> Andre Jute
>>> "The brain of an engineer is a delicate instrument which must be
>>> protected against the unevenness of the ground." -- Wifredo-Pelayo
>>> Ricart Medina explaining to Enzo Ferrari why he wore such inordinately
>>> thick rubber soles.
>>>>
>>>
>> Roger Merman
>>
> Hah!. On advice from the group I looked at those V12 pedals the last time I specced a new bike, thirteen or so years ago, and wondered what the pins would do to my shins or calves at the slightest awkward stop -- and went back to my trusted VP-191. I'm happy to hear you confirm I made the right decision. -- AJ
>>
your foot slides off the pedal, the pavement just snaps
your ankle, far from those dangerous pins.
Roger Meriman
Aug 4, 2023, 11:00:11 AM8/4/23
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rip skin…
But the pins are intended to grip shoes and stuff like five-tens are
designed to stick to well pedals, which also are concave so your shoe will
naturally sit in that.
So the pedal/shoe are not going anywhere, in general you have to lift than
slide the shoes, as they will not freely slide across the pedal.
Which is why I use them even on the commute bike though the smaller less
grippy V8 version as even in the wettest day I’m not slipping on the pedals
which I found block and road type flats to be prone to, hence the move to
clipless on the road market what 80%?
Where as on MTB side it’s probably 60/40 or so? Clipless/flats more
technical type of riding more likely to be flats more XC more clipless.
In the middle ie trail type MTB clipless gives a locked in feeling, flats
more “Yoda feel the force” ie less performance more preference.
Roger Merriman
Catrike Rider
Aug 4, 2023, 2:55:12 PM8/4/23
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Andre Jute
Aug 4, 2023, 2:56:35 PM8/4/23
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