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Scotty

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Jan 24, 2002, 9:03:26 AM1/24/02
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I recently bought a pair of Exus "Look Compatible" pedals, and found out
that they're not THAT compatible. The Look cleats won't work in the Exus
pedal, and the Exus cleats won't stay in my old Lood pedals (pre sealed
bearing) no matter how tight my retention adjustment.

Found out that the Welgo pedals only use cleats that sort of 'look' like
Looks, and that the Performance Forte pedals claim Look compatibility, but
it's only in terms of the bolt pattern on the cleats. The cleats themselves
don't work across makes.

It seems that Look was quite successful in defending its patent - at best
the copy cats can emulate but not outright copy.

That said, I know that Shimano produced pedals under Look license, so the
cleats are fully compatible, but are Campagnolo pedals truly Look compatible
in all respects as far as cleats go?


Steven L. Sheffield

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Jan 24, 2002, 11:04:37 AM1/24/02
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In article <BsU38.1$zC1.1...@news1.i1.net>,
"Scotty" <ep...@fencing.net> wrote:


The older Campagnolo pedals were also made under license, as were the
Shimano pedals. They are, therefore, fully Look-compatible.

The Campagnolo Pro-fit pedals use the same bolt pattern, but the actual
cleats are kind of a cross between Look and SPD-R.

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Mike Krueger

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Jan 24, 2002, 11:50:02 AM1/24/02
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"Scotty" ep...@fencing.net wrote:
<< ... I know that Shimano produced pedals under Look license, so the

cleats are fully compatible, but are Campagnolo pedals truly Look compatible
in all respects as far as cleats go? >>

I think those Campy-branded look pedals were actually manufactured by LOOK, so
the cleats should be identical with LOOK pedals of the same vintage.
You can buy real LOOK cleats mail order inc. the mounting hardware for
only$8/pair. Forget the brand X stuff the bike shops sell.

Jon Isaacs

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Jan 24, 2002, 12:36:43 PM1/24/02
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>"Look Compatible" pedals, and found out
>that they're not THAT compatible. The Look cleats won't work in the Exus
>pedal, and the Exus cleats won't stay in my old Lood pedals (pre sealed
>bearing) no matter how tight my retention adjustment.

Some strange is going on here. Those Exus cleats are pretty standard, I use
them in just about every type of Look and Shimano pedal ranging from the old
black and white ones to the 7401's like Lance uses to some of the more modern
Looks.

I sometimes I use the real Look cleats but most often the Exus, I have never
noticed any difference.

Exactly which cleats are you using and which pedals?

jon isaacs

Tom Paterson

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Jan 24, 2002, 1:00:42 PM1/24/02
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>From: Jon Isaacs

>I sometimes I use the real Look cleats but most often the Exus, I have never
>noticed any difference.

On the 10-12 or so sets I used, the Exus seemed to be a slightly snugger fit
when new, good for use at the track.

Either a pedal problem, defective Exus cleat, or is there a variant which is a
"close but no cigar" fit in the "looks like Look" pedal panoply? --Tom Paterson

A Muzi

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Jan 24, 2002, 1:59:47 PM1/24/02
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"Scotty" <ep...@fencing.net> wrote in message
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While the Exus pedal is "sort of compatible" as you note well above,
Campagnolo and Shimano bought the Look pedals from Look (Close inspection
will show "Made in France"). Both tired of paying Look and went on to
proprietary designs.

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Steven L. Sheffield

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Jan 24, 2002, 4:19:11 PM1/24/02
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In article <20020124130042...@mb-ce.aol.com>,
dusto...@aol.comnospam (Tom Paterson) wrote:


Exus discontinued the E1 pedal, which was a true Look-compatible pedal,
probably due to legal actions on Look's part.

The E1 has been replaced by the E7 and E12, which use a different cleat
(the E-ARC2). This is essentially the same pedal as the Nashbar Ventoux
road pedal, made by Wellgo.

Older Exus E-BLK or E-ARC1 cleats, which will work in Look pedals are
still available.

roofi

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Jan 24, 2002, 5:58:19 PM1/24/02
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Had the same problem. Take a "Look" at the back of the Exus cleat. The bit
that "clicks" into the pedal. Some cleats have a straight section on the
outer extremities, some have a tapered section. The tapered ones are the
Look copies. These tapered ones will go into an E7 pedal very easily, but
(as I found out one scary morning) are extremely hard to remove.

The ones with the straight bits will go into a Look pedal, but pull out with
little or no resistance - at least from my experience.......


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Jon Isaacs

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Jan 25, 2002, 8:08:50 AM1/25/02
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>
>Exus discontinued the E1 pedal, which was a true Look-compatible pedal,
>probably due to legal actions on Look's part.
>
>The E1 has been replaced by the E7 and E12, which use a different cleat
>(the E-ARC2). This is essentially the same pedal as the Nashbar Ventoux
>road pedal, made by Wellgo.
>
>Older Exus E-BLK or E-ARC1 cleats, which will work in Look pedals are
>still available.
>

Thanks for clarifying this issue. Next time I buy cleats I will keep my eye
open to make sure I get the right ones.

jon isaacs

Qui si parla Campagnolo

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Jan 25, 2002, 9:02:09 AM1/25/02
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Scotty-<< That said, I know that Shimano produced pedals under Look license, so

the
cleats are fully compatible, but are Campagnolo pedals truly Look compatible
in all respects as far as cleats go? >>


Pre-ProFit, they were. The lower end ones were made by LOOK and the Record ones
had a Campagnolo produced spindle/bearing set, but they were LOOK pedals. Not
now tho-cannot use LOOK cleats with ProFit pedals.

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl ST.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com

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