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Is Reynolds 853 ALWAYS good?

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Brian Z.

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Mar 4, 2001, 8:32:33 PM3/4/01
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I was shown a KHS Flite 800 today that was made with Reynolds 853 tubing.
The bike was being offered at $1300.
Just wondering if 853 was always a good thing to get regardless of the
manufacturer.

Brian


Reprobate

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Mar 4, 2001, 10:43:36 PM3/4/01
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KHS is a reputable manufacturer, as far as the model check mtbr.com for
reviews.


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Steven L. Sheffield

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Mar 5, 2001, 1:13:26 AM3/5/01
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In article <R0Co6.7388$6i1.7...@news1.frmt1.sfba.home.com>,
"Brian Z." <BZie...@home.com> wrote:

What's the component spec?

I can't imagine any company offering a full 853 frame for $1300.00

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Orin Eman

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Mar 5, 2001, 1:34:25 AM3/5/01
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Reprobate wrote:

> KHS is a reputable manufacturer, as far as the model check mtbr.com for
> reviews.

But be careful of the fit... The TT is very low for a given ST size and leads
to rather low handlebar position. Good value for money otherwise IMO.

Orin.

AndresMuro

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Mar 5, 2001, 8:02:08 AM3/5/01
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I have a KHS aerocomp. It is the 1999 model with 853 tubing (flite 800 is the
200 model). Great frame. However, I agree with other responses regarding size.
It has a long top tube in comparison to the seat tube. The dimensions that KHS
gives you are from center of BB to top of seat collar. You need to subtract 2
cm to get the actual c to t size. I love their sizing since I have a long
torso. The flite 800 is a great bike. If it fits you get it and you'll be very
happy.

Andres

KevinM23

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Mar 5, 2001, 8:09:05 AM3/5/01
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Steven Sheffield wrote:


>What's the component spec?
>
>I can't imagine any company offering a full 853 frame for $1300.00

I just ran into this on Gary Hobbs' site. Bet this is what Brian is talking
about.

-Kevin Munday
----------------------------------------------------------

The Best Reynolds 853/Ultegra Bicycle Value in the U.
S....$1295.!

The 2000 KHS Flite 800 is beautifully tig welded using Reynolds
wonderful 853 tubing(main tubes); coupled with the Advanced
Composites threadless aero bladed carbon fiber fork it yields a
truly
wonderful ride. KHS chose a striking black w/orange and gray
decals
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Tange
aheadset, Shimano Ultegra 9spd STI gruppo(derailleurs, STI
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bracket, Rolf Vector Comp wheelset(I doubt you will find such a
premium $495. wheelset on any bicycle close to this price range),
ITM or TTT handlebar/stem(depending upon sizes needed), Kalloy
seatpost, Selle San Marco Tecno saddle, Panaracer Elite 700 x 23
tires
and cork handlebar wrap...a great 19.5 lb. bicycle. Sizes: 54cm,
56cm,
58cm, 60cm(measured center-to-top). You can upgrade to an
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Qui si parla Campagnolo

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Mar 5, 2001, 8:55:31 AM3/5/01
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BZeigler-<< I was shown a KHS Flite 800 today that was made with Reynolds 853


Just like a bunch of good wheel parts-hubs, spokes, rims, would not necessarily
be a great wheelset, a tubeset does not a great frameset make-

Peter Chisholm
"Vecchio's" Bicicletteria
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Boulder, CO
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com

brian

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Mar 5, 2001, 9:45:12 AM3/5/01
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Actually a Performance bike shop in my area has one of these. The specs on
it are as follows:
Full Ultegra drivetrain except Dura Ace rear derailleur,
Rolf Vector Comp w/ Panaracer Stradus
Tioga headset.
Reynolds 853 Frame.

Bicycling.com also has an identical specs sheet at:
http://www.bicycling.com/cgi-bin/php/cgi-bin/bikefinder/search/details.php3?
itm_id=45309

-Brian
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brian

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Mar 5, 2001, 9:51:01 AM3/5/01
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This is a better link:

http://www.bicycling.com/cgi-bin/php/cgi-bin/bikefinder/search/results_typep
rice.php3?type=Road%3A+Race+%26+Triathlon&price=&x=21&y=18

Sorry,

-Brian

Steven L. Sheffield

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Mar 5, 2001, 10:00:52 AM3/5/01
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With an Ultegra/D-A drivetrain, there is no way that frame could be all
853 ... probably just the front triangle at most.

Although I do see from the Bicycling article that the suggested retail
is actually $1699, and that the model is listed as a 2000 ... which
makes a little more sense.

IOW ... typical Performance selling close-out shit that didn't sell
through the first time around.

According to the KHS website, the 2001 Flite 800 is a mix of 105 and
Tiagra for $1299, while the Flite 1000 gets the Ultegra/D-A mix for
$1749.


In article <YDNo6.633$Up.4...@sea-read.news.verio.net>,
"brian" <camaro...@hotmail.com> wrote:

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Jim Edgar

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Mar 5, 2001, 11:19:39 AM3/5/01
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in article ESNo6.638$Up.4...@sea-read.news.verio.net, Steven L. Sheffield
at ste...@veloworks.com wrote on 3/5/01 7:00 AM:

>
>
> With an Ultegra/D-A drivetrain, there is no way that frame could be all
> 853 ... probably just the front triangle at most.

Who makes a complete 853 bike? Most of the ones which I've seen use 525 for
the stays.

Jim Edgar

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Mar 5, 2001, 11:26:03 AM3/5/01
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in article R0Co6.7388$6i1.7...@news1.frmt1.sfba.home.com, Brian Z. at
BZie...@home.com wrote on 3/4/01 5:32 PM:

The only bad thing I would point out about the Flite series is that the
headtube uses a _very_ thin walled piece (althought they may have changed it
into the 2000 models-I beleive this was a '99). It impressed me as about
the thinnest headtube I'd ever seen. That bike had hit something head-on
and it collapsed pretty impressively. I do not know much about the
accident, though the rider was unhurt and said it wasn't that bad of an
impact. He'd only had it for 3 months (bought it on a year-end deal last
year...)

I've got a Lemond Poprad which is an 853 bike, and the headtube seemed much
more what I'd expect, wall-thickness-wise.

Alex Rodriguez

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Mar 5, 2001, 1:11:42 PM3/5/01
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In article <a8Go6.619$Up.4...@sea-read.news.verio.net>, ste...@veloworks.com
says...

>What's the component spec?
>I can't imagine any company offering a full 853 frame for $1300.00

Nashbar was closing out an Iron Horse Victory with an 853 frame and
9spd Ultegra parts for only $800. That's a great deal, if the frame
fits you.
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Eric Salathe

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Mar 5, 2001, 4:05:02 PM3/5/01
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No, the materials have no correlation to the quality of the finished
product. However, KHS is a decent brand if the bike satisfies your
criteria otherwise. Others may sensibly prefer a 531 frame from a
different brand or builder.

Eric Salathe
Seattle WA


David Balfoort

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Mar 5, 2001, 9:52:54 PM3/5/01
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853 and 525 stays are indentical in wall thickness and therefore
weight. There is no tangible benefit to paying extra for 853 stays.
When 853 was first introduced, there were no 853 stays. Reynolds
finally came out with the stays (853) because of consumer demand. The
marketing folks were caught napping.

David

BB

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Mar 7, 2001, 1:51:25 PM3/7/01
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2001 Lemond Zurich and Maillot Jaune, maybe earlier years as well.

Jim Edgar

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Mar 8, 2001, 10:37:55 AM3/8/01
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in article 3AA6832D...@attglobal.net, BB at sai...@attglobal.net wrote
on 3/7/01 10:51 AM:

Dunno if you'd seen the Lemond site, but both list 853 steel as comprising
the "Mainframe". That bit of specificity in description would indicate that
they are not using 853 in the stays. In the past, they've been built with
525 stays.

http://www.lemondbikes.com/bikes/maillot_fullspecs.html

http://www.lemondbikes.com/bikes/zurich_fullspecs.html

The reason I was wondering is that I'd heard that there was _no_ real
benefit for using 853 for stays -- neither weight nor performance. By the
time you thicken up the tube for stay stress, you might as well use a 525.

Any builders comments?


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