LANCE Leading Contador
Paul B. Anders
Should be an interesting team meeting for Astana today.
Brad Anders
Scott
Why?
It only matters if Contador himself believes LA to be a legitimate
threat. If anything, Contador was helped by LA's move today, as it
put pressure on the teams of the other GC contenders to chase the
break today so as not to give LA or M. Rogers too much time. LA
didn't work, Contador didn't work, but the teams of every other GC
contender had to work hard for the last 15 miles today. My take on
it: Contador was helped immensely by today's stage.
Bob Schwartz
> 39 seconds today puts him up by 17 over Contador, and into 3rd place.
> Should be an interesting team meeting for Astana today.
You're not going all fanboi on us, are you?
If so then yes, THE CHESS GAME IS ON!!!
Bob Schwartz
Paul B. Anders
Updated data, make that 19 seconds, with Contador in 4th. Good TTT and
Hinault will have to eat crow on the victory stand, I'd like to see
that.
Brad Anders
samson
0b716e...@g7g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, pban...@gmail.com says...>
Yes, but it's all about the mountains.
s
Paul B. Anders
wrote:
> Paul B. Anders wrote:
> > 39 seconds today puts him up by 17 over Contador, and into 3rd place.
> > Should be an interesting team meeting for Astana today.
>
> You're not going all fanboi on us, are you?
I'd love to see LANCE win the TdF this year. Not because I like LANCE
all that much, just because of how many people it would piss off if he
did it. I think the chances are poor, but even a day in yellow will
make a lot of people see red.
Brad Anders
Tom Kunich
news:2db0bc23-cf61-4a5e...@g7g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 6, 9:10 am, "Paul B. Anders" <pband...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 39 seconds today puts him up by 17 over Contador, and into 3rd place.
> > Should be an interesting team meeting for Astana today.
> >
>
> Hinault will have to eat crow on the victory stand, I'd like to see
> that.
Hinault is a good guy. I think that Lance has very little chance and his
presence will be a great aid to Contador. However, I also think that
Contador will worry about whether Lance will try a breakaway win until he
gets a substantial lead over Armstrong.
drmofe
> 39 seconds today puts him up by 17 over Contador, and into 3rd place.
> Should be an interesting team meeting for Astana today.
JB: "OK, ja. Gather round, guys. You too, Andreas - you are part of
this team too"
AK: "Ja, good. Thanks boss!"
JB: "OK, so today in the _TEAM_ time trial, I want to see good
teamwork. No splits like yesterday. Look after Lance..."
AC:" Boss?"
JB:" Ja, I mean Alberto. Sorry. Now listen, stick together, but if
you do get the chance to attack today, then go for it in the
crosswinds."
AC:" Boss?"
JB: "Ja, sorry Alberto. I meant stick to the plan. No tricks like
that day we pretended to have two leaders a few years ago"
AK: "Zat was a trick?"
JB: "Ja, sorry Andreas. OK. Any questions?"
AK:"Ja, boss - is Lance going to steal a stage win from me again? Zat
was not gut."
JB: "It's a TEAM time trial!! Any OTHER questions?"
HZ: "What happened to Vino?"
Seriously, dude - it's straight out of JB's playbook. It's not a done
deal like when Zulle fell off on the causeway all those years back.
Lots of options now. And when it does come down to the crunch, when
there has to be a choice - who has the most favours to call in from
the rest of the peloton? No, the interesting team meeting will be the
one on the second rest day.
Paul B. Anders
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090706/sp_nm/us_cycling_tour_2
"I am not ok with that theory saying there can be only one team
leader," said Armstrong.
"I have won seven Tours de France, I will have to be counted in."
Astana sports director Alain Gallopin said there would not be any
problems within the team even though Armstrong has somehow upset the
hierarchy.
"There are no troubles at all in our team, it's even the contrary," he
said.
"If there had been Armstrong and (Saxo Bank's) Andy Schleck up front,
that would have been a problem.
"There will be no problem tonight or tomorrow."
Jack Hollis
<hendric...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Let's see, he didn't gain any time on any of his major rivals today
and he lost 41 seconds on a few of them. There were a couple of his
teammates helping the breakaway gain time on him while LA sat back
saving energy. It was clear that the team was working for LA today at
Contador's expense. I'm sure that Contador feels really good about
today.
Bob Schwartz
> Let's see, he didn't gain any time on any of his major rivals today
> and he lost 41 seconds on a few of them. There were a couple of his
> teammates helping the breakaway gain time on him while LA sat back
> saving energy. It was clear that the team was working for LA today at
> Contador's expense. I'm sure that Contador feels really good about
> today.
Maybe the dumbass should have sent Caisse up to the front to
help the chase.
Bob Schwartz
Jack Hollis
<pban...@gmail.com> wrote:
>"There will be no problem tonight or tomorrow."
Why should there be problems when it's possible that after the TTT
tomorrow Astana could have the top three or four riders in the GC and
LA back in yellow.
You couldn't write stuff like this for a movie because no one would
believe it,
--D-y
Contador was lucky he didn't get caught behind a crash after the
split.
Not a good way to spend your lucky.
--D-y
ilan
My theory is that Hincapie told Armstrong exactly where they were
planning this move and Armstrong failed to mention it to Contador.
-ilan
KG
Dumbass -
What did Hinault say?
thanks,
Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.
ilan
From http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/differing-accounts-from-cavendish-and-rogers-on-stage-3
Columbia-HTC seemed to find willing allies in Astana, despite the fact
that Contador and Andreas Kloden were missing. Lance Armstrong,
though, was there, prompting speculation that he might have had prior
knowledge of the attack.
Hincapie, who rode by Armstrong’s side for all seven of his Tour wins,
was asked that question, and he responded initially with a blank
expression, as though weighing his words carefully. “I saw Lance,” he
shrugged. “I mean, he was obviously excited [to be in the move] but we
were there, just doing our job.
Paul B. Anders
It was in Velonews:
http://velonews.com/article/92900/hinault-blasts--well-everyone
"On Armstrong’s comeback: “I hope he will not be there. Is he afraid
of France? Nobody forced him to come, he only has to stay home! He
cannot win the Tour. I hope that Contador gives him a beating.” "
Brad Anders
Paul B. Anders
> On Jul 6, 9:20 pm, ilan <ilan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 6, 6:10 pm, "Paul B. Anders" <pband...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > 39 seconds today puts him up by 17 over Contador, and into 3rd place.
> > > Should be an interesting team meeting for Astana today.
>
> > > Brad Anders
>
> > My theory is that Hincapie told Armstrong exactly where they were
> > planning this move and Armstrong failed to mention it to Contador.
>
> > -ilan
>
>
> Columbia-HTC seemed to find willing allies in Astana, despite the fact
> that Contador and Andreas Kloden were missing. Lance Armstrong,
> though, was there, prompting speculation that he might have had prior
> knowledge of the attack.
>
> Hincapie, who rode by Armstrong’s side for all seven of his Tour wins,
> was asked that question, and he responded initially with a blank
> expression, as though weighing his words carefully. “I saw Lance,” he
> shrugged. “I mean, he was obviously excited [to be in the move] but we
> were there, just doing our job.
I laughed when I read this, as George responds to most questions with
a "blank expression".
Brad Anders
Tom Kunich
news:be7d3d92-65bb-4cc9...@y10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> "On Armstrong's comeback: "I hope he will not be there. Is he afraid
> of France? Nobody forced him to come, he only has to stay home! He
> cannot win the Tour. I hope that Contador gives him a beating." "
Sounds to me like he's worried about drug problems coming from those who are
afraid of Lance.
dave a
> On Jul 6, 9:20 pm, ilan <ilan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 6, 6:10 pm, "Paul B. Anders" <pband...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 39 seconds today puts him up by 17 over Contador, and into 3rd place.
>>> Should be an interesting team meeting for Astana today.
>>> Brad Anders
>> My theory is that Hincapie told Armstrong exactly where they were
>> planning this move and Armstrong failed to mention it to Contador.
>>
>> -ilan
>
> From http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/differing-accounts-from-cavendish-and-rogers-on-stage-3
>
> Columbia-HTC seemed to find willing allies in Astana, despite the fact
> that Contador and Andreas Kloden were missing. Lance Armstrong,
> though, was there, prompting speculation that he might have had prior
> knowledge of the attack.
>
> was asked that question, and he responded initially with a blank
> shrugged. �I mean, he was obviously excited [to be in the move] but we
> were there, just doing our job.
LA: "I was JRA and suddenly there was a little acceleration."
oops...
ilan
At least I agree with Hinault on this:
-----------
he last French winner of the Tour had an opinion on just about
everything, and didn’t hold back when it came to criticizing the
current state of the French peloton.
“There are champions who become like civil servants when they turn
pro. You have to put a knife to their throats to get any results,”
Hinault said. “The French earn too much money and don’t make enough
effort.”
-------------
After watching the French championship a week ago, it was utterly
pathetic. There was a 2 man break up the road and on the last lap the
peloton of favorites weren't chasing except for a team mate of
eventual winner Champion from an obscure 3rd category team. He did all
the chasing and cut it down to 20 seconds, then pulled off and got
dropped at the first hill. Everyone in the peloton slowed up, and he
actually had to come back to pull them all up the hill, otherwise the
race would have been over! It was not at all a fluke that a 3rd
category rider won that race.
Anyway, I always enjoy watching the French championships, it's the
most bizarre spectacle of infighting and poor tactics of the year.
I also enjoyed reading VeloNews again. Especially this article by John
Wilcockson http://tour-de-france.velonews.com/article/94578/columbia-htc-s-stage-3-throw-down-presages-great-ttt-battle
and this remark
"What the Discovery Channel and U.S. Postal Service teams never did
was put all nine of its riders on the front of the peloton during a
flat stage and split the race apart. Columbia did just that on Monday
afternoon"
Thank you, John, because without this comment I would still be under
the delusion that they did exactly that in the 2004 stage to
Wasquehal. Now I know why people like him get paid to write stuff as
people like us just rant for free on rbr.
-ilan
-ilan
Donald Munro
> LA: "I was JRA and suddenly there was a little acceleration."
Luckily he wasn't using R-Sys wheels.
Rick
It would be a pretty boring event if every rider that 'cannot win the
tour' stayed home. If you are going to exclude a likely top 10
finisher, that would leave very few riders hinault thinks should
start.
I think he's trying to talk himself out of his job. Aside from the
ASO & hinault, how many other organizers bad mouth racers in an
attempt to promote their event?
Paul B. Anders
What's even more two-faced are the actions going on regarding Astana
being late to the stage sign-ins:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/armstrong-and-contador-fined-after-late-sign-on-at-tour-de-france
"Tour de France competition director, Jean-Francois Pescheux, told
Reuters that he would like to see the International Cycling Union
(UCI) take further action. "Today, and as usual, the Astana team
arrived late at the pre-stage registration, in contempt of the crowd,
who has once again not seen Lance Armstrong," he said. "They don't
care about the fine. We are going to ask the UCI to be tougher.""
I don't see why they care about LANCE showing up to the sign-in, if
they didn't want him at the event in the first place. Hinault wasn't
the only Tour official to denounce LANCE being at the event, but when
they see that they can draw fans and money with him, they seem only
too eager to take advantage of it.
Brad Anders
Scott
>
> - Show quoted text -
Refresh my memory, which legitimate contenders gained time on Contador
today? While you're at it, please explain by putting additional
pressure on the teams of the other legitimate contenders counts as
'working for LA'?
Geraard Spergen
> On Jul 6, 12:56 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > saving energy. It was clear that the team was working for LA today at
> > Contador's expense. I'm sure that Contador feels really good about
> > today.- Hide quoted text -
>
> Refresh my memory, which legitimate contenders gained time on Contador
> today?
Hincapie
KG
\
> I also enjoyed reading VeloNews again. Especially this article by John
> and this remark
>
> "What the Discovery Channel and U.S. Postal Service teams never did
> was put all nine of its riders on the front of the peloton during a
> flat stage and split the race apart. Columbia did just that on Monday
> afternoon"
>
> Thank you, John, because without this comment I would still be under
> the delusion that they did exactly that in the 2004 stage to
> Wasquehal. Now I know why people like him get paid to write stuff as
> people like us just rant for free on rbr.
Dumbass -
There was also the Passage du Gois in 1999.
Tom Kunich
news:1664ac6b-e97f-4ba4...@v37g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
Do you really think of George as a TdF contender?
ilan
Wrong! This should have been: "There also wasn't the Passage du Gois
in 1999." Clearly you do not learn from the Great Journalist
Wilcockson. Now spend the next week reading back issues of VeloNews as
penance.
-ilan
Johnny Twelve-Point presented by JFT
wrote:
>On Jul 6, 9:28�am, "Paul B. Anders" <pband...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 6, 9:10�am, "Paul B. Anders" <pband...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > 39 seconds today puts him up by 17 over Contador, and into 3rd place.
>> > Should be an interesting team meeting for Astana today.
>>
>> > Brad Anders
>>
>> Updated data, make that 19 seconds, with Contador in 4th. Good TTT and
>> Hinault will have to eat crow on the victory stand, I'd like to see
>> that.
>
>Dumbass -
>
>What did Hinault say?
How do you say "panache" in French?
Johnny Twelve-Point presented by JFT
wrote:
>I also enjoyed reading VeloNews again. Especially this article by John
>Wilcockson http://tour-de-france.velonews.com/article/94578/columbia-htc-s-stage-3-throw-down-presages-great-ttt-battle
>and this remark
>
>"What the Discovery Channel and U.S. Postal Service teams never did
>was put all nine of its riders on the front of the peloton during a
>flat stage and split the race apart. Columbia did just that on Monday
>afternoon"
>
>Thank you, John, because without this comment I would still be under
>the delusion that they did exactly that in the 2004 stage to
>Wasquehal. Now I know why people like him get paid to write stuff as
>people like us just rant for free on rbr.
ONCE and USPS did that big-time in the Tour of Spani too.
Michael Press
<836fe37e-f14d-405f...@d9g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
drmofe <ste...@wic.co.nz> wrote:
> On Jul 7, 4:10 am, "Paul B. Anders" <pband...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 39 seconds today puts him up by 17 over Contador, and into 3rd place.
> > Should be an interesting team meeting for Astana today.
>
> JB: "OK, ja. Gather round, guys. You too, Andreas - you are part of
> this team too"
> AK: "Ja, good. Thanks boss!"
> JB: "OK, so today in the _TEAM_ time trial, I want to see good
> teamwork. No splits like yesterday. Look after Lance..."
> AC:" Boss?"
> JB:" Ja, I mean Alberto. Sorry. Now listen, stick together, but if
> you do get the chance to attack today, then go for it in the
> crosswinds."
> AC:" Boss?"
> JB: "Ja, sorry Alberto. I meant stick to the plan. No tricks like
> that day we pretended to have two leaders a few years ago"
> AK: "Zat was a trick?"
> JB: "Ja, sorry Andreas. OK. Any questions?"
> AK:"Ja, boss - is Lance going to steal a stage win from me again? Zat
> was not gut."
> JB: "It's a TEAM time trial!! Any OTHER questions?"
> HZ: "What happened to Vino?"
He's visiting the oil fields.
> Seriously, dude - it's straight out of JB's playbook. It's not a done
> deal like when Zulle fell off on the causeway all those years back.
> Lots of options now. And when it does come down to the crunch, when
> there has to be a choice - who has the most favours to call in from
> the rest of the peloton? No, the interesting team meeting will be the
> one on the second rest day.
GH: We're going on the next bend.
LA: Check.
--
Michael Press
bjwe...@gmail.com
Dumbass,
You guys made it sound like Hinault is part of the
Vast Anti-Lance Conspiracy, but that quote sounds
like somebody expressing a commonly held opinion -
LANCE is no Zoetemelk, he's too old. With the usual
Hinault lack of euphemism. The rest of the article was
pretty choice too.
Of course, we do know that Hinault really is part of the
Vast Anti-Lance Conspiracy. The reason: Just as
Lemond is pissed off that LANCE supplanted him as
Famous American TdF Champion, Hinault is afraid
that LANCE vs. Contador will supplant him in the
category of Old Guy makes Young Tour Contender's life
hell through intra-team shenanigans.
Anyway, be careful what you wish for about Hinault
eating crow on the victory stand. Events have shown
that if Hinault doesn't like the guy on the podium,
the Badger is perfectly capable of bum-rushing him
into the crowd.
Ben
Mike Jacoubowsky
news:qKidnemC7aGi5M_X...@earthlink.com...
It's nice to see George out there, but y'know, that's about it isn't it? He
can help organize the train for Cav, but it's not as though they're going to
sacrifice a possible Cav stage win for George to take a flyer. Nor is it
likely on a stage with Cat 1 or better climbs that George would be able to
get away from whomever is going for the polka dot jersey.
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
Johnny Twelve-Point presented by JFT
<Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
> He
>can help organize the train for Cav, but it's not as though they're going to
>sacrifice a possible Cav stage win for George to take a flyer.
They were certainly open to other riders winning stages in the Tour of
Italy.
Jack Hollis
<hendric...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Refresh my memory, which legitimate contenders gained time on Contador
>today?
Other than Armstrong himself, the other riders in the breakaway, who
could be considered as able to place high in the GC are Cancellara and
Rogers.
>While you're at it, please explain by putting additional
>pressure on the teams of the other legitimate contenders counts as
>'working for LA'?
If the reason was to put pressure on the other team, why didn't
Armstrong help? And the work by Zubeldia and Popovych put some stress
on Astana as well.
However, there was no doubt that the breakaway caused lots of anxiety
in the peloton. The guys thinking about podium finishes had to be
worried to see LA and Cancellera up there.
Perhaps JB knows that Contador is going to leave Lance in the dust in
the mountains and wanted to help Lance with a possible second or third
place finish. Forty-one seconds could make a difference. Or perhaps
the decision on who's the team leader hasn't been made yet and the
tactics are to take advantage of whatever comes up for either rider.
Lance was smart enough to be in front on a day when smart riders know
that there can be a successful breakaway. Paul and Phil called it at
least a half hour before it happened. Contador should have been up
there.
ilan
> On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 14:47:31 -0700 (PDT), Scott
>
Armstrong did help out. He took one very hard pull gapping the guy
behind him and gaining about 2 seconds on the chasers. This convinced
the other teams that Astana was serious, and then he had his teammates
do the work. There is no way a GC guy with 2 teammates is going to do
any more than that. As for the team time trial, even with Zubeldia and
Popovych tired you still have 3 of the top ten from the ITT on the
team.
After stage 1, Armstrong was interviewed and he said that for him the
Tour was too long to analyze and that it had to be broken down into
sections with a single theme, he described the stages going into Spain
as "windy" so he was very well prepared for what happened today.
As Jalabert said in his commentary, Armstrong is the most experienced
and smartest guy in the race so it's incredibly easy to figure out
where to be in the peloton, exactly where Armstrong is.
-ilan
Tom Kunich
news:vr9555lo9st3s85es...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 14:47:31 -0700 (PDT), Scott
> <hendric...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Refresh my memory, which legitimate contenders gained time on Contador
>>today?
>
> Other than Armstrong himself, the other riders in the breakaway, who
> could be considered as able to place high in the GC are Cancellara and
> Rogers.
At the moment I think that we should keep a very sharp eye on Cancellara. As
I mentioned before, he's nearly the same size and weight as Eddy Merckx and
Miguel Indurain both of whom were TT powerhouses like Cancellara. And with
the recent loss in weight it appears that Fabian is thinking in bigger terms
than I previously gave him credit for.
Nobody
wrote:
>After stage 1, Armstrong was interviewed and he said that for him the
>Tour was too long to analyze and that it had to be broken down into
>sections with a single theme, he described the stages going into Spain
>as "windy" so he was very well prepared for what happened today.
>
>As Jalabert said in his commentary, Armstrong is the most experienced
>and smartest guy in the race so it's incredibly easy to figure out
>where to be in the peloton, exactly where Armstrong is.
>
>-ilan
Rewatching the stage, Armstrong goes to the front twice. The first
time was about 10-15 minutes before the breakaway. He was definitely
paying attention, whereas, Contador was either at the limit, or not
being attentive. I have a feeling Contador will pay a lot more
attention to where Lance is riding for the next few stages. Hopefully,
they'll be able to put differences aside and work together on the TTT.
Scott
> On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 14:47:31 -0700 (PDT), Scott
>
> >Refresh my memory, which legitimate contenders gained time on Contador
> >today?
>
> Other than Armstrong himself, the other riders in the breakaway, who
> could be considered as able to place high in the GC are Cancellara and
> Rogers.
>
Being considered as able to place high does not equal legitimate
contender for the overall. No one in the break was a legitimate
contender to win the overall, except perhaps Armstrong IF Contador has
a couple of bad days or collapses on Mont Ventoux.
birdbrain
> "Jack Hollis" <xslee...@aol.com> wrote in message
Sastre will finish ahead of Cancellara.
Donald Munro
>> > Refresh my memory, which legitimate contenders gained time on Contador
>> > today?
Geraard Spergen wrote:
>> Hincapie
Tom Kunich wrote:
> Do you really think of George as a TdF contender?
Who does Irony ride for ?
cur...@the-md-russells.org
wrote:
>As for the team time trial, even with Zubeldia and
>Popovych tired you still have 3 of the top ten from the ITT on the
>team.
??? Which one are you leaving out: Alberto, Levi, Lance or Andreas?
Have to admit, is my recollection correct that it is number five that
makes the time in the Tour? So it would hinge on the last whether or
not Astana put big time on everyone else, although you could have
almost anyone sit in and stay out of the way. Well, maybe not DZ, but
almost anyone.
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
ilan
> On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:30:01 -0700 (PDT), ilan <ilan...@gmail.com>
I wrote that at 4am and at 4:01 am I realized that I left someone out,
so I was confronted with the dilemma of correcting an rbr mistake or
sleeping. Sorry guys, but rbr comes a distant second.
-ilan
cur...@the-md-russells.org
wrote:
>"What the Discovery Channel and U.S. Postal Service teams never did
>was put all nine of its riders on the front of the peloton during a
>flat stage and split the race apart. Columbia did just that on Monday
>afternoon"
>
>Thank you, John, because without this comment I would still be under
>the delusion that they did exactly that in the 2004 stage to
>Wasquehal. Now I know why people like him get paid to write stuff as
>people like us just rant for free on rbr.
Regardless, isn't this a little like saying that he never saw Michael
Phelps swin the channel? WTF would they bother most of the time? To
what end? A Hincapie sprint for the victory?
Considering the TTT prowess in most years, one would have to guess
that a motivated Postal/Discovery squad could have split pretty much
any flat stage in any Tour if JB said to do it. Work to no end as all
the contenders would be marking LA and get towed to the finish, but
what the hell.
cur...@the-md-russells.org
wrote:
>On Jul 6, 6:10�pm, "Paul B. Anders" <pband...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 39 seconds today puts him up by 17 over Contador, and into 3rd place.
>> Should be an interesting team meeting for Astana today.
>>
>> Brad Anders
>
>My theory is that Hincapie told Armstrong exactly where they were
>planning this move and Armstrong failed to mention it to Contador.
>
>-ilan
Memory lapse. Happens to us old people all the time.
P. Chisholm
> 39 seconds today puts him up by 17 over Contador, and into 3rd place.
> Should be an interesting team meeting for Astana today.
>
> Brad Anders
Why indeed. Armstrong saw the possibility of the break happening after
they turned left, went to the front. Contador(along with Evans,
Sastre, Levi and LOTS of others)didn't and got dropped These are big
boys and can make deceisons for themselves(in spite of a 'brain' in
their ear). Not a fan of Astana or Armstrong but he, along with the
others saw an opportunity and took it. Smart racing.
Now if Cav could just keep his mouth shut. In the mountains, he'll be
riding like a 'junior'.
Geraard Spergen
> "Geraard Spergen" <GeraardSper...@juno.com> wrote in message
50/50
Paul B. Anders
"The seven-time Tour champion (Armstrong) received the congratulations
of his teammates after the finish - one notable exception - Alberto
Contador."
Looking forward to stage 7.
Brad Anders
TooTall
> 39 seconds today puts him up by 17 over Contador, and into 3rd place.
> Should be an interesting team meeting for Astana today.
>
> Brad Anders
If Contador hasn't figured out that The Lance is racing to win then he
is truly delusional. I predict that after Friday's stage, Contador
will be down on him by more than 2 minutes and will ultimately
DNF.
Jack Hollis
wrote:
>At the moment I think that we should keep a very sharp eye on Cancellara. As
>I mentioned before, he's nearly the same size and weight as Eddy Merckx and
>Miguel Indurain both of whom were TT powerhouses like Cancellara. And with
>the recent loss in weight it appears that Fabian is thinking in bigger terms
>than I previously gave him credit for.
Even though Astana won the TTT today, the day really belonged to
Cancellara. What an effort to keep the yellow.
Susan Walker
> Comment on CN after the stage 4 TTT victory by Astana:
>
> "The seven-time Tour champion (Armstrong) received the congratulations
> of his teammates after the finish - one notable exception - Alberto
> Contador."
TV never showed it but Contador must have already passed Armstrong and
gone into the bus. What certainly didn't happen was that Contador passed
Armstrong (with or without congratulating him).
Susan Walker
Er, it's late.
Paul B. Anders
> Comment on CN after the stage 4 TTT victory by Astana:
>
> "The seven-time Tour champion (Armstrong) received the congratulations
> of his teammates after the finish - one notable exception - Alberto
> Contador."
He said on twitter this was BS.
Brad Anders
Tom Kunich
news:987d16d8-d2d8-4aba...@c1g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
I seriously doubt that Lance could win unless something unusual happens with
the competition. But he is taking all of the attention away from Contador
who will win. Let's remember all of the tricks that Bruyneel used in all of
the previous Tours to direct attention away from their real strategy.
Ryan Cousineau
<e811b777-d62f-4781...@d15g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
"P. Chisholm" <pe...@vecchios.com> wrote:
Cavendish is very very good at what he is good at, and bad at what he is
bad at. Love him or hate him, it's not bragging when he can back it up.
-RjC, hot for sprinters.
--
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Donald Munro
> Er, it's late.
That excuse is getting old.