Hmmmm....

[hold my beer and watch this...]

American rider moves to team coached by 'Mr. 60%,' changes his training
program per his new coach's instruction, then wins two major races in a
week.

[kcsunshineband]

And this coming from a guy named 'hold my beer and watch this....'

your a rocket scientist.

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"hold my beer and watch this..." <trd...@dejazzd.com> wrote in message
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> American rider moves to team coached by 'Mr. 60%,' changes his training
> program per his new coach's instruction, then wins two major races in a
> week.

He won the Dauphine Libere before being coached by Mr. 60%.

It included a stage that finished up Mt. Ventoux and another mountainous
stage ending at Briancon.

[Qui si parla Campagnolo]

when did he test at 60%?

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[Morten Reippuert Knudsen]

On Mon. d. 05 May. 2003 kl. 12:24 GMT, Qui wrote:

> when did he test at 60%?

never... the Mr. 60% label has a (true) story:

In the 1996 TDF the entire Festina team was highly doped with EPO and they
tested _very_ high in intaernal hematocrit test. Since Riis rode fatser than
the Festina riders /they/ joked about it and _assumed_ that Riis's hematocrit
values had to be at least 60%. Their theory was that the only way anyone could
outride them, was if they had hcrt. values above their own (=above 60%) - Riis
was the only one to outride them, therefore they labeld him Mr. 60%.

I'm not saying that Riis wasen't on EPO, i think that there's a valid
reason to asume that more than 90% of the peloton was on EPO in those years,
that includes riders like Indurain, Rominger, Züelle, Bugno, Chiapuchi,
Ugromov, Jalabert, Pantani /and/ Armstorng <don't shoot me!>.(we allready do
know that the Festina team was on EPO).

However everyone seems to forget that Riis (and swiss Pascal Richard) was among
the initiators behind the introduction of the hematocrit tests in 1997.
A test wich most of the pro-riders didn't want, the initiators wanted
the test - not to prevent the use of EPO, they assumed that that
battle couldn't be won without a pullet-prof EPO test, but in order to make
shure that noone died or got serously ill from their EPO useage. Their
intention of the hematocrit test, was that it would _force_ the riders and
teams to be monitored by doctors and prevent fatal accidents from EPO.

Later on, in 1998, a dansih journalist (Olav Skåning Andersen, OSA) publiciced
a series of articles and hidden camra recordings he made when he held a job as
a soigneur at Gewiss-Ballan (in either 94 or 95), where he worked undercover in
order to find out if doping in professional cycling was orginaized by the teams
or by individual riders. His documentation states that the Gewis-Ballan riders
was using EPO and that they where closely controled and monitored by the Teams
official doctor (Ferrari).
OSA found transcripts containg the hematrocrit values of the Teams Giro squard
from thier preperations prior to the Giro. Ugromov, i think, had a value above
57% as the highest (by a large margin). The transcript contained names like
Berzin, Furlan, Goti, Chengialta, Riis and others. All of them had periodicly
values above 50% but execpt Berzin none of them where near the 57% of Ugromov.

So far we only have insight from 1,5 pro-teams + a series of cases
against Italian sports doctors. The fact is that we only have
documentation from what went on in _two_ teams, and both of them shows
that they did use systematic doping.

Festina due to the documentation in the Villy Voet trail.
Gewis-ballan, partially from the documentation provided by OSA.

Since we don't have _any_ documented inside information from other teams there
is no reason to belive that they had a different approch to the use of
doping. In fact the ongoing cases in Italy indicates that almost all
riders did use EPO in a more or less sytematic way - either orginized
or with the blessing of their teams.

--
Venlig hilsen Morten Reippuert Knudsen...

Besides, if you can't get a decent kernal panic <icq://131382336>
or two in a month, what's the point of living? <aim://reippuert>

[JTN]

good point, it does need more facts to back it up though. but it does make
on suspicious. I would lean more toward he allergy medication than epo
though. he has had allergy problems his entire life and never figured them
out. maybe now he has found a medication to neutralize them and keep the
body from tiring this time of year.
this would be my guess of his recent success. hell, just call him and ask,
he will tell ya.

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[warren]

In article <vbcu7v...@corp.supernews.com>, JTN
<jne...@garfield-county.com> wrote:

Tyler has lost weight in his upper body which would help him climb.

The tour of Romandie is not a huge race. Look at who he beat (top 5)
and who wasn't racing. The guy is fit so why shouldn't he win both
races. PVP did two good rides in 3 days. It is possible.

-WG