racing and throwing up
Gregory McGuire
and there is a faster rider, and I attempt to keep up with that rider, they
are going faster than I am used to riding, I feel like I am going to throw
up. I feel like I cannot even ride their tail without throwing up. I just
think to myself; that's too much for me.
Is it a food thing, a level of fitness thing, and off day thing.
For those of you out there that are true racers, and have a moment to
express your experience, and offer something along this inquery, please do.
ronaldo_jeremiah
Greg -
I threw up in every points race I ever rode in 15 seasons. The key is
being able to force it back down before it exits your mouth or nose.
There's no getting around the fact that bike racing is really hard.
-RJ
B. Lafferty
"ronaldo_jeremiah" <ronaldo_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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1979 when he was riding from Lenny Preheim's Toga team. The trick when it's
being caused by a stronger rider is to use every last bit of strength an
peristalsis control to move up, half-wheel the guy and then barf all over
him. You'll get time to recover and he'll probably be out of the race along
with some others. Puke is very slippery.
Carl Sundquist
"ronaldo_jeremiah" <ronaldo_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
But you lose style/sympathy points that way. Witness the 'dives' in the
World Cup.
OTOH, Ken Nowakowski used to barf _before_ every track meeting.
Does nose vomit burn?
Ryan Cousineau
"Gregory McGuire" <grego...@hotmail.com> wrote:
It's a fitness/bad day thing. Can be brought on by bonking if you're
underfed for the ride, but mostly it's just what happens to some people
when they're overtaxed.
--
Ryan Cousineau rcou...@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
ronaldo_jeremiah
Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> In article <Qf2dnbFTz5ADtS3Z...@rcn.net>,
> "Gregory McGuire" <grego...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Searching for someone with experience, sometimes when I am out on the bike,
> > and there is a faster rider, and I attempt to keep up with that rider, they
> > are going faster than I am used to riding, I feel like I am going to throw
> > up. I feel like I cannot even ride their tail without throwing up. I just
> > think to myself; that's too much for me.
> > Is it a food thing, a level of fitness thing, and off day thing.
> > For those of you out there that are true racers, and have a moment to
> > express your experience, and offer something along this inquery, please do.
>
> It's a fitness/bad day thing. Can be brought on by bonking if you're
> underfed for the ride, but mostly it's just what happens to some people
> when they're overtaxed.
But surely there is some connection between the LiveDrunk philosophy
and producing lung cookies while cycling, no?
-RJ
Ryan Cousineau
"B. Lafferty" <Ma...@Italia.com> wrote:
Dammit Brian, what happened to your campaign for clean racing?
Don't worry though, I haven't lost any respect for you,
B. Lafferty
"Ryan Cousineau" <rcou...@sfu.ca> wrote in message
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That's nice and if we should ever ride together I promise not to puke on
you.
Marlene Blanshay
i remember seeing footage of some poor shmuck barfing on mount
washington. I can't remember who it was, it was like 3 or 4 years ago
and he was from credit agricole. Actually a couple of guys barfed when
they got to the top- just leaned over and gave it up. I always say, if
you can get up mt washington, you're entitled to throw up.
photos...@gmail.com
Greg, now you know how we feel when we don't train properly. Yes, it is
a fitness thing. When you have a great amount of mileage in your legs,
your "slow" pace will be considered quite fast for a newcomer. I know
this after taking some years off the bike, and then trying to hang with
just a casual "dayy off" ride with some old racing friends of mine. I
had no idea I could get so slow again.
Keep riding. You'll get faster. Good luck.
Donald Munro
> Does nose vomit burn?
Is that rhetorical ?
Donald Munro
> That's nice and if we should ever ride together I promise not to puke on
> you.
Do you give everybody you ride with a dope test or only those who are
faster than you. Oh and do you check for caffeine suppositories and
scrotal patches ?
Donald Munro
> That's nice and if we should ever ride together I promise not to puke on
> you.
Do you give everybody you ride with a dope test or only those who are
Donald Munro
Ryan Cousineau
Donald Munro <fat-d...@hotmail.com> wrote:
It's called the "Lafferty Line"
Tim Lines
Why would Brian need evidence?
B. Lafferty
> In article <44b0b52a$0$21567$ec3e...@news.usenetmonster.com>,
> Donald Munro <fat-d...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> B. Lafferty wrote:
>> > That's nice and if we should ever ride together I promise not to puke
>> > on
>> > you.
>>
>> Do you give everybody you ride with a dope test or only those who are
>> faster than you. Oh and do you check for caffeine suppositories and
>> scrotal patches ?
>
> It's called the "Lafferty Line"
>
RonSonic
wrote:
>Carl Sundquist wrote:
>> Does nose vomit burn?
>
>Is that rhetorical ?
Wrong punctuation, obviously should've read: "does nose vomit burn!"
On another subject: Is there anything you can do about the double posting?
I get two of everything you type.
Ron
Tom Kunich
> In article <L7Wrg.5122$ye3....@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
>
>
> Don't worry though, I haven't lost any respect for you,
0 - 0 = 0.
B. Lafferty
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Where's the proof,Eunuch that Merckx accepted ASO money in 1973 to not ride
the Tour? Can't back up your assertion? You are such a putz.
Raptor
> On another subject: Is there anything you can do about the double posting?
>
> I get two of everything you type.
Here too.
--
Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall
I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the
trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view,
the most insidious of traitors."
George H.W. Bush, April 16, 1999,
Phillip Brown
If you don't throw up at the end of a race, you're not trying hard enough.
--
phillip brown
"shit doesn't just happen. there is always an ass-hole involved"
a...@irow.com
photos...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Greg, now you know how we feel when we don't train properly. Yes, it is
> a fitness thing. When you have a great amount of mileage in your legs,
> your "slow" pace will be considered quite fast for a newcomer. I know
> this after taking some years off the bike, and then trying to hang with
> just a casual "dayy off" ride with some old racing friends of mine. I
> had no idea I could get so slow again.
>
> Keep riding. You'll get faster. Good luck.
It's nothing to do with fitness. There are two types of people in
this world. Those who spew, and those who don't. I doubt you are,
or have ever been, fitter than Carl Sundquist, and he's talking about
spewing. You race World Cups, you're not there to f@# spiders. (Long
story).
Also, there are two types of spew:
Nervous: the one where you put up everything you've eaten or drunk in
that day - it's worth experimenting with Gatorade flavours if you
know it's coming; and
Exertion: post or during race from belting yourself to your limit.
Admittedly, the only times I've spewed on a bike have been riding
hard and hungover, but in a boat, it happens all the time.
AT
b...@mambo.ucolick.org
> B. Lafferty wrote:
> > I can remember Nelson Vails throwing up on the road at Old Westbury around
> > 1979 when he was riding from Lenny Preheim's Toga team. The trick when it's
> > being caused by a stronger rider is to use every last bit of strength an
> > peristalsis control to move up, half-wheel the guy and then barf all over
> > him. You'll get time to recover and he'll probably be out of the race along
> > with some others. Puke is very slippery.
> >
> >
> ewwww.....
>
> i remember seeing footage of some poor shmuck barfing on mount
> washington. I can't remember who it was, it was like 3 or 4 years ago
> and he was from credit agricole. Actually a couple of guys barfed when
> they got to the top- just leaned over and gave it up. I always say, if
> you can get up mt washington, you're entitled to throw up.
One of the more experienced riders in my old club told a
story of doing the Pescadero Road Race. Just at the
top of one of the climbs, Ed somebody, a moderately
well known local Masters guy, leaned over and hurled
right on my buddy's new Ritchey stem. He says the
finish was was never the same after that.
Donald Munro
>> On another subject: Is there anything you can do about the double posting?
>> I get two of everything you type.
Raptor wrote:
> Here too.
Sorry the nntp server has been a bit erratic lately. Should be OK now.
Curtis L. Russell
Its worse for some of us - we throw up through our nose and then it
backs up...
Still burns though.
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
Donald Munro
> Its worse for some of us - we throw up through our nose and then it
> backs up...
>
> Still burns though.
You'll have to experiment to find which martini mixtures burn the least.
Simon Brooke
('rons...@tampabay.rr.com') wrote:
Et moi aussi.
Aussi.
--
si...@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
;; all in all you're just another click in the call
;; -- Minke Bouyed
Ewoud Dronkert
> Admittedly, the only times I've spewed on a bike have been riding
> hard and hungover, but in a boat, it happens all the time.
It does, but I never saw it in a single. I think that's for the same
reason one doesn't see much throwing up on bikes: both require a certain
level of control at all times to keep one from falling over.
One time I actually did fall over after a hard race, a TTT. No throwing
up though and I also never had to in a rowing boat. You're right: some
people just do, others don't.
--
E. Dronkert
andre...@aol.com
Gregory McGuire wrote:
> Searching for someone with experience, sometimes when I am out on the bike,
> and there is a faster rider, and I attempt to keep up with that rider, they
> are going faster than I am used to riding, I feel like I am going to throw
> up. I feel like I cannot even ride their tail without throwing up. I just
> think to myself; that's too much for me.
> Is it a food thing, a level of fitness thing, and off day thing.
> For those of you out there that are true racers, and have a moment to
> express your experience, and offer something along this inquery, please do.
The heaving that you get that causes you to vomit is caused by going
into oxigen debt. This happens when the blood is unable to take oxigen
to the muscles fast enough. You need to increase your AT or aerobic
threshold. This is the point that you are stll working aerobically but
you are about to go anaerobic. If you go anaerobic at 160 bpms, you
need to increase the point to say 170 bpms.
What is happenning to you righ now is that you are trying to keep up
with someone and he is forcing to bring your heart rate to 161, 162,
163. bpms (right above your AT). You breath like a maniac to try to get
O2 to your muscles until you start to heave. You can increase you AT by
doing some sustained efforts of three to 5 minutes at 85% of you max
heart rate with rest in between. Also, doing 45 second all out sprints
with full recovery in between, helps.
Andres
a...@irow.com
You're just a non-spewer then! It is easy to throw up in a single.
One hand holding both handles. One handle on the gunwale. Then
don't move except for your oesophagus, and let nature take its
majestic course. It looks better when you've won, not so good when
you've come third.
I disagree with the idea that spewing is caused by high lactate levels.
The last 2 max tests I've done topped out at 4.7 and 6.3 mmol.
They're not high by any means, but I had a quick date with a waste
paper basket after both.
My ex recorded high teens for a max test and didn't spew. There
could be a case for saying that 'cos you're a girl, you're more
polite and don't throw up, but when you've got to go, you've got
to go.
Ewoud Dronkert
> The last 2 max tests I've done topped out at 4.7 and 6.3 mmol.
> They're not high by any means, but I had a quick date with a waste
> paper basket after both.
Good; someone I know threw up after a 2k test and didn't have it in
him to grab a bag or even to turn his head. This was quite a few years
ago on a model B (open cage) and the wheel was still turning fast at
that unfortunate moment...
--
E. Dronkert