Armstrong Wins Using Litespeed Bike????
DnJSeb
on Treks part?
Great job, Lance ... no matter what you ride!
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Armstrong Wins Using Litespeed Bike
.c The Associated Press
OOLTEWAH, Tenn. (AP) - A little bike company near Chattanooga secretly shared
in Lance Armstrong's triumph in Paris at the Tour De France on Sunday.
The 60 employees at Litespeed Titanium Components know that Armstrong actually
rides their bikes, despite the Trek logo that is painted on them.
Trek is the official sponsor of the U.S. Postal Service team. Since Armstrong
prefers bikes from Litespeed, Trek purchases them at $6,000 each for him.
``Lance was a member of the Motorola cycling team and we sponsored it in
previous years, so he was familiar with the cycle,'' said David Lynskey,
president of Litespeed, a family business.
``He felt like he wanted to ride nothing but the best, and asked us to fit him
and provide him the equipment, and we did so.''
Lynskey said the alloy tubing used for Armstrong's bikes is twice as strong and
half as heavy as the tubing used for most bikes.
AP-NY-07-25-99 1613EDT
Copyright 1999 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP
news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise
distributed without prior written authority of The Associated Press.
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DnJSeb <dnj...@aol.comSeb> wrote in message
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> I've gotta know if this is true. If so, wouldn't that be FALSE
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> on Treks part?
>
Don't go there! I tried it two weeks ago and the rbr contingency beat the
bejesus out of me with their keyboards. Thank God I do intervals. I have
since recovered quite nicely.
--
Lester Lindell
Mike Jacoubowsky
Trial stages, during which he road a Litespeed Blade that was made for him
(as well as one for Bobby Julich) a year and a half ago.
Litespeed did *not* supply Lance's road bikes for the Tour. They were stock
TREK OCLV framesets, the same one I ride, the same one you can walk into a
bike store and ride off with.
Please, if you seek further clarification, I suggest emailing Litespeed
directly, since it appears people aren't going to believe anyone else.
Heck, even then I suspect people will believe there's a conspiracy of some
sort.
--Mike--
Chain Reaction Bicycles
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DnJSeb <dnj...@aol.comSeb> wrote in message
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I've gotta know if this is true. If so, wouldn't that be FALSE
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on Treks part?
Great job, Lance ... no matter what you ride!
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Armstrong Wins Using Litespeed Bike
..c The Associated Press
Mike Jacoubowsky
RUMSPEC <rum...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>Litespeed did *not* supply Lance's road bikes for the Tour. They were
stock
>TREK OCLV framesets, the same one I ride, the same one you can walk into a
>bike store and ride off with.
>
I don't see how Lance could ride a stock OCLV, because he was riding a 72.5
seat tube angle. The OCLV's are not made in that angle for his size in a
stock
frame.
Tim McNamara
<rum...@aol.com> wrote:
> >Litespeed did *not* supply Lance's road bikes for the Tour. They were stock
> >TREK OCLV framesets, the same one I ride, the same one you can walk into a
> >bike store and ride off with.
> >
>
> I don't see how Lance could ride a stock OCLV, because he was riding a 72.5
> seat tube angle. The OCLV's are not made in that angle for his size in a stock
> frame.
Just look at the things- they are obviously a carbon fiber frame which
Litespeed doesn not make- unless someone made him a nice light Ti frame
and then heavied it up with some Bondo to make it look like OCLV.
Trek makes every aspect of the OCLV frame at the Wisconsin factory- it
is a set of carbon fiber tubes connected by carbon fiber "lugs" which
have that rounded monococque-tyope shape. There was an article in one
of the U.S. bike rags in which the editor went to Trek and got to make
a seat lug (I don't recall if they were called lugs or if there was a
different term).
Use a different lug (e.g., one from a larger frame size which usually
has a slacker seat tube) and !presto! you've got a frame built to order
for Lance. But it's still the same frame you or I could walk into a
bike shop and buy (of course, in my size it does come with a 72.5
degree seat tube, IIRC).
Mike Jacoubowsky
you visit our website, where you'll see 100+ pages of my drivel).
Can't wait for tomorrow morning...first post-Tour ride. As for my own
priorities, I actually chose to ride my bike (and later take my kids to a
waterslide park...ouch, do my arms hurt from banging around inside those
tubes!!!) instead of watch the final 'tour coverage.
--Mike--
http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
DnJSeb <dnj...@aol.comSeb> wrote in message
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Geez,
You guys seem like you spend more time at your keyboards then on your bikes.
A simple question from someone too busy to be reading every little ng
article,
and what do you get?
GO RIDE YOUR BIKES!
ml...@mindspring.com
1995, although some of the riders still rode steel frames. There was know
attempt to hide this. I think Merckx now makes his own titanium frames.
The Dano <the...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >``Lance was a member of the Motorola cycling team and we sponsored it in
> >previous years, so he was familiar with the cycle,'' said David Lynskey,
> >president of Litespeed, a family business.
>
recall
> motorola ever riding titanium in the early/mid nineties.....can someone
correct
> me on this?
>
> ~dan
RUMSPEC
DnJSeb
The Dano
Brian Nystrom
on a Litespeed.
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Regards
Brian
Sam
So his win at Sestriere was not important?
Henry
The Dano wrote in message <19990726234202...@ng-ck1.aol.com>...
They used Litespeeds with "Eddy Merckx" and "Caloi" painted on them. So
the quote isn't entirely accurate.
Henry
Michael Lynch
also! ;)
Henry <fre...@connectnet.com> wrote in message
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Brian Nystrom
Sam wrote:
> So his win at Sestriere was not important?
>
> Brian Nystrom <bnys...@bit-net.com> wrote:
>
> >...he did win all of the stages that really made the victory possible - the TT's -
> >on a Litespeed.
I wouldn't say it wasn't important, but he would have won the Tour even if he hadn't
won that stage. Even if you count it, still, 3 out of his 4 stage victories were on his
Litespeed. Please understand that I'm not trashing Trek or trying to start a flame war,
just making an observation.
--
Regards
Brian
ScottV
>
> Actually, I think the Saeco Cannondale team was riding Litespeeds
> also! ;)
>
Don't be silly. Everyone knows that their aluminum frames are actually
made by Pinerallo :-p.
Ken Papai
And you, pot - kettle - black, seem to believe every lame
thing reporters write and believe nothing you see.
What king of a name is dnjseb???
--
Ken Papai Marin County, California
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Tim McNamara
<the...@aol.com> wrote:
> >``Lance was a member of the Motorola cycling team and we sponsored it in
> >previous years, so he was familiar with the cycle,'' said David Lynskey,
> >president of Litespeed, a family business.
>
> when was it that litespeed ever sponsored the motorola team?....i don't recall
> motorola ever riding titanium in the early/mid nineties.....can someone
> correct
> me on this?
Lance won the 1993 World's on a Litespeed painted to look like a
Merckx. In subsequent years, Litespeed was reputed to have built all
of Motorola's Ti bikes, whether they had a Merckx or Caloi label on
them.
IIRC, Zulle's Peugeot when he rode for Festina was also a Litespeed-
and even had Litespeed markings on the seat tube collar and other
subtle places.
JV
> Lance won the 1993 World's on a Litespeed painted to look like a
> Merckx. In subsequent years, Litespeed was reputed to have built all
> of Motorola's Ti bikes, whether they had a Merckx or Caloi label on
> them.
>
> IIRC, Zulle's Peugeot when he rode for Festina was also a Litespeed-
> and even had Litespeed markings on the seat tube collar and other
> subtle places.
Litespeed makes Merckx's Ti frames and I was under the impression that
Lance's Caloi was a Merckx (and other riders as well) MX leader.
BTW, I have seen the Peugeot you speak about (in photos)...I think all
of their Ti frames were Litespeed as well.
-Jason
Tom Kunich
> 72.5 seat tube angle. The OCLV's are not made in that angle for his size
in a
> stock frame.
Sounds like the angles that were available for the OCLV LeMonds.
Mike Jacoubowsky
confusion because the LeMonds are measured differently (center-to-top for
TREK, center-to-center for LeMond) and apparently a goof or two in the specs
listed in the catalog. But rest assured they were *exactly* the same frame,
aside from paint job. They were discontinued (on the LeMond side) because
TREK (the parent company) didn't want people to say that a LeMond was just a
TREK with a different decal.
--Mike--
Chain Reaction Bicycles
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Tom Kunich <tku...@diabloresearch.com> wrote in message
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Tom Buckley
Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> Uh...nope. OCLV LeMonds were the *exact* same as the OCLV TREKs.
> --Mike-
Tell that to my OCLV LeMond, which measures quite differently than any Trek OCLV
frameset I've ever seen. The top tube is 1.1 cm longer (57.1 cm, c of seat tube
- c of head tube) than the seat tube (56.0, cm c of bb-top of top tube), whereas
most of the stock 5500's at my LBS have roughly the reverse situation.
tom
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Steven L. Sheffield
jarwo...@aol.com (JArwood886) wrote:
> What do you think Lance was riding when he won the worlds.
> Litespeed bulit the Caloi frames for the entire Motorola team.
NOPE!
Lance's Merckx in 1993 was a Litespeed. But starting in 1994-5,
Merckx began building their own titanium frames with tubing
supplied by Litespeed ... but welded in Belgium, not Tennessee.
The Caloi frames were primarily steel ... and all were built
by Merckx EXCEPT for the Blade time trial frame Lance used in
1996 (if I recall correctly ... or was he still using the Lotus
in 1996?).
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>
> Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>
> > Uh...nope. OCLV LeMonds were the *exact* same as the OCLV TREKs.
> > --Mike-
>
> Tell that to my OCLV LeMond, which measures quite differently than any Trek OCLV
> frameset I've ever seen. The top tube is 1.1 cm longer (57.1 cm, c of seat tube
> - c of head tube) than the seat tube (56.0, cm c of bb-top of top tube), whereas
> most of the stock 5500's at my LBS have roughly the reverse situation.
>
> tom
Tom, my stock 1994 Trek 5500 measures the same as your OCLV LeMond.
Chuck Schmidt
South Pasadena, California
JArwood886
years. Check out Richard Virenqe's Puegot when he placed second in the tour.
Also check out Alex Zulle's frame in the issue of Cycle Sport. In the last 6
years there have been many riders on Litespeed built frames from individuals to
complete teams. What do you think Lance was riding when he won the worlds.
Mike Jacoubowsky
likely it is that I'm wrong. But in this case, I have no problem stating
that *all* OCLV road frames out of Waterloo, WI (where TREK builds them)
have the same geometry. I even have examples of both in our stores, but it
would be a bit of a drive from Utah for you to measure them! I'd suggest
sending an email to TREK and/or LeMond for verification.
--Mike--
Chain Reaction Bicycles
http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
Tom Buckley <buc...@biology.usu.edu> wrote in message
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Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> Uh...nope. OCLV LeMonds were the *exact* same as the OCLV TREKs.
> --Mike-
Tell that to my OCLV LeMond, which measures quite differently than any Trek
OCLV
frameset I've ever seen. The top tube is 1.1 cm longer (57.1 cm, c of seat
tube
- c of head tube) than the seat tube (56.0, cm c of bb-top of top tube),
whereas
most of the stock 5500's at my LBS have roughly the reverse situation.
tom
Mike Jacoubowsky
certain...the engine!
Didn't watching the 'Tour make you want to go out and charge up a hill?
Those guys are incredible...not just Lance, but the entire team...heck, even
Jay Sweet (who was in contention for the Lantern Rouge until he was
eliminated just a few stages from the end).
Of course, in my case it also makes me confront yet again the old bit of "Am
I a has-been or never-was?" How long before my memories of racing 20 years
ago finally fade away...
--Mike--
Chain Reaction Bicycles
http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
Chuck Schmidt <chucks...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Tom Buckley wrote:
>
> Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>
> > Uh...nope. OCLV LeMonds were the *exact* same as the OCLV TREKs.
> > --Mike-
>
> Tell that to my OCLV LeMond, which measures quite differently than any
Trek OCLV
> frameset I've ever seen. The top tube is 1.1 cm longer (57.1 cm, c of
seat tube
> - c of head tube) than the seat tube (56.0, cm c of bb-top of top tube),
whereas
> most of the stock 5500's at my LBS have roughly the reverse situation.
>
> tom
Tom, my stock 1994 Trek 5500 measures the same as your OCLV LeMond.