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Robert Chung

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Jul 3, 2005, 5:40:13 AM7/3/05
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gym.gravity

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Jul 3, 2005, 5:52:27 AM7/3/05
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Robert Chung wrote:
> http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/rbr/tdf05-1.png

Thanks Bob.

So Armstrong's second half was faster than Zabriskie's, but we know he
lost 5 seconds in the last few kms. I guess his total time for the
last 9.4kms was bouyed by him realizing he could catch the fat lazy
pink German, and he did everything he could to do so.

Ewoud Dronkert

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Jul 3, 2005, 5:59:06 AM7/3/05
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On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:40:13 +0200, Robert Chung wrote:
> http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/rbr/tdf05-1.png

Both rode 2 km/h faster than the field behind them. 2 km/h! Incredible.

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gym.gravity

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Jul 3, 2005, 6:05:49 AM7/3/05
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Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:40:13 +0200, Robert Chung wrote:
> > http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/rbr/tdf05-1.png
>
> Both rode 2 km/h faster than the field behind them. 2 km/h! Incredible.
>

It's incredible if you believe the wind was constant throughout the day
like cyclingnews said. It's Incredible if you believe Zabriskie had a
tailwind and that LANCE did it with worse conditions...2km/h!

Dan Cosley

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Jul 3, 2005, 7:51:10 AM7/3/05
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Well, at least that explains why Armstrong stopped gaining on Ullrich
after he passed him. That little puff of tailwind that somehow
mysteriously avoided all the other riders who were spaced one whole
minute apart and followed Armstrong around started pushing Jan
when Lance passed him.

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Stewart Fleming

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Jul 3, 2005, 8:54:59 AM7/3/05
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Robert Chung wrote:

> http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/rbr/tdf05-1.png

Can you post one of these for stage 2 as well, when you have the data?
That should really clear things up. I expect that we will see that both
of those outliers disappear and that it was just a one-off.

jc

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Jul 3, 2005, 1:31:24 PM7/3/05
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Two of these kids just aren't like the others,
two of these kids just aren't the same...

k.papai

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Jul 3, 2005, 1:39:33 PM7/3/05
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Hell of a cool plot.

NobodyMan

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Jul 3, 2005, 8:29:47 PM7/3/05
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On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:40:13 +0200, "Robert Chung" <m...@address.invalid>
wrote:

>http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/rbr/tdf05-1.png
>

To bad stage 1 was not an ITT. Stage 1 was TODAY (Sunday, 3 Jul) and
was a road race.

The race on Saturday was the PROLOGUE.

gym.gravity

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Jul 3, 2005, 8:34:50 PM7/3/05
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The black helecopters?

gym.gravity

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Jul 3, 2005, 8:39:00 PM7/3/05
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(psssst...technically, if it's longer than 10k or so, it isn't a
prologue it's an ITT. like in 2000)

Steven L. Sheffield

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Jul 3, 2005, 9:00:03 PM7/3/05
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On 07/03/2005 06:29 PM, in article
cm0hc156rvou9n6p2...@4ax.com, "NobodyMan" <no...@none.net>
wrote:

That's odd.

According to the Société de Tour de France (the organizers), there is no
prologue this year, and yesterday's ITT was Stage 1.

http://www.letour.com/2005/TDF/LIVE/us/100/r2_etapes_liste.html

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Andrew F Martin

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Jul 4, 2005, 1:20:04 AM7/4/05
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You're an idiot.

Robert Chung

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Jul 4, 2005, 2:41:18 AM7/4/05
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NobodyMan wrote:

> To bad stage 1 was not an ITT. Stage 1 was TODAY (Sunday, 3 Jul) and
> was a road race.
>
> The race on Saturday was the PROLOGUE.

Man, I hate it when I correct someone and my correction was itself wrong.
That's a fatal mistake.


danko

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Jul 4, 2005, 3:59:01 AM7/4/05
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Stage 1 WAS an ITT and it WAS stage 1. Course exceeding 8k or 9 (not
sure) is no longer considered PROLOGUE, not by ASO and they are the
organizers so...

izi...@gmail.com

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Jul 4, 2005, 4:43:31 AM7/4/05
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Incorrect, since it was greater then 8km it was NOT a prologue, it was
Stage 1. There is no prologue this year.

Donald Munro

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Jul 4, 2005, 5:59:41 AM7/4/05
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NobodyMan wrote:
>> To bad stage 1 was not an ITT. Stage 1 was TODAY (Sunday, 3 Jul) and
>> was a road race.
>> The race on Saturday was the PROLOGUE.

Steven L. Sheffield wrote:
> That's odd.
>
> According to the Société de Tour de France (the organizers), there is no
> prologue this year, and yesterday's ITT was Stage 1.
>
> http://www.letour.com/2005/TDF/LIVE/us/100/r2_etapes_liste.html

Didn't you forget something at the start of your post (hint it starts with
a D).

Donald Munro

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Jul 4, 2005, 6:04:06 AM7/4/05
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Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
>>> Both rode 2 km/h faster than the field behind them. 2 km/h!
>>> Incredible.

gym.gravity wrote:
>> > It's incredible if you believe the wind was constant throughout the
>> > day like cyclingnews said. It's Incredible if you believe Zabriskie
>> > had a tailwind and that LANCE did it with worse conditions...2km/h!

Dan Cosley wrote:
>> Well, at least that explains why Armstrong stopped gaining on Ullrich
>> after he passed him. That little puff of tailwind that somehow
>> mysteriously avoided all the other riders who were spaced one whole
>> minute apart and followed Armstrong around started pushing Jan when
>> Lance passed him.

gym.gravity wrote:
> The black helecopters?

Refried beans for breakfast ?

Steven L. Sheffield

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Jul 4, 2005, 7:40:16 AM7/4/05
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On 07/04/2005 03:59 AM, in article
pan.2005.07.04....@invalid.invalid, "Donald Munro"
<inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote:


Uh ... "Donald" ???

Donald Munro

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Jul 4, 2005, 12:36:14 PM7/4/05
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NobodyMan wrote:
>>>> To bad stage 1 was not an ITT. Stage 1 was TODAY (Sunday, 3 Jul) and
>>>> was a road race.
>>>> The race on Saturday was the PROLOGUE.

Steven L. Sheffield wrote:
>>> According to the Société de Tour de France (the organizers), there is no
>>> prologue this year, and yesterday's ITT was Stage 1.

Donald Munro wrote:
>> Didn't you forget something at the start of your post (hint it starts with
>> a D).
>

Steven L. Sheffield wrote:
> Uh ... "Donald" ???

Donald or Dumbass, the two are interchangeable.

Mary

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Jul 5, 2005, 12:22:49 AM7/5/05
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What's a "prologue"?

And is that Z guy in the yellow shirt going to win the Tour of France?

Mary

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Andrew F Martin

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Jul 5, 2005, 1:46:26 AM7/5/05
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In NASCAR it would be similar to "qualifying".

No.

andrew

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