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Anton Berlin

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Jul 19, 2010, 10:57:04 PM7/19/10
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5. Power calculation from Tour stages : Frédéric Portoleau has a page
put up where he has power estimates of various top riders from this
year's Tour. According to him, Andy Schleck climbed the ascent to
Avoriaz in 33min 12s, expending some 417W of power. That gives a power/
weight ratio of 6.1 W/kg. Alberto put down 415W of power, making his
power to weight ratio some 6.8 W/kg. Certainly seems way off the
charts, so I'm not sure how reliable all this data is.

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cyclismag.com%2Farticle.php%3Fsid%3D5950&sl=auto&tl=en

drmofe

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Jul 20, 2010, 2:09:02 AM7/20/10
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On Jul 20, 2:57 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 5. Power calculation from Tour stages : Frédéric Portoleau has a page
> put up where he has power estimates of various top riders from this
> year's Tour. According to him, Andy Schleck climbed the ascent to
> Avoriaz in 33min 12s, expending some 417W of power. That gives a power/
> weight ratio of 6.1 W/kg. Alberto put down 415W of power, making his
> power to weight ratio some 6.8 W/kg. Certainly seems way off the
> charts, so I'm not sure how reliable all this data is.
>
> http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&lay...

In about 1990 or so, the requisite power for a neo-pro in the Tour was
around 390W so those numbers represent an increase of around 12% over
20 years.
Not incroyable.

Jeff Jones

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Jul 20, 2010, 3:28:04 AM7/20/10
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On Jul 20, 3:57 am, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 5. Power calculation from Tour stages : Frédéric Portoleau has a page
> put up where he has power estimates of various top riders from this
> year's Tour. According to him, Andy Schleck climbed the ascent to
> Avoriaz in 33min 12s, expending some 417W of power. That gives a power/
> weight ratio of 6.1 W/kg. Alberto put down 415W of power, making his
> power to weight ratio some 6.8 W/kg. Certainly seems way off the
> charts, so I'm not sure how reliable all this data is.
>
> http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&lay...

So Schleck climbed faster than Contador but with a much lower power to
weight ratio? That ain't right.

Jeff

Jeff Jones

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Jul 20, 2010, 3:32:57 AM7/20/10
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On Jul 20, 8:28 am, Jeff Jones <drjone...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 20, 3:57 am, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > 5. Power calculation from Tour stages : Frédéric Portoleau has a page
> > put up where he has power estimates of various top riders from this
> > year's Tour. According to him, Andy Schleck climbed the ascent to
> > Avoriaz in 33min 12s, expending some 417W of power. That gives a power/
> > weight ratio of 6.1 W/kg. Alberto put down 415W of power, making his
> > power to weight ratio some 6.8 W/kg. Certainly seems way off the
> > charts, so I'm not sure reliable all this data is.

>
> >http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&lay...
>
> So Schleck climbed faster than Contador but with a much lower power to
> weight ratio? That ain't right.
>
I've just read the fine print (unlike whoever came up with the power/
weight figures). Portoleau assumed everyone was the same weight
(70kg).

drmofe

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Jul 20, 2010, 4:04:21 AM7/20/10
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Presumably also, if your aunt had balls, she would be your uncle.

Betty

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Jul 20, 2010, 4:59:51 AM7/20/10
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Jeff Jones wrote:
>> I've just read the fine print (unlike whoever came up with the power/
>> weight figures). Portoleau assumed everyone was the same weight
>> (70kg).

Obviously just another gym professor.

drmofe wrote:
> Presumably also, if your aunt had balls, she would be your uncle.

One ball or two ?

Phil H

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Jul 20, 2010, 7:51:26 PM7/20/10
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On Jul 19, 7:57 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 5. Power calculation from Tour stages : Frédéric Portoleau has a page
> put up where he has power estimates of various top riders from this
> year's Tour. According to him, Andy Schleck climbed the ascent to
> Avoriaz in 33min 12s, expending some 417W of power. That gives a power/
> weight ratio of 6.1 W/kg. Alberto put down 415W of power, making his
> power to weight ratio some 6.8 W/kg. Certainly seems way off the
> charts, so I'm not sure how reliable all this data is.
>
> http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&lay...

That number roughly agrees with Andy Coggan's power tables.

5 s 1 min 5 min 20
min
World Champion/World Record Holder 23.50 11.50 7.60 6.62

If the format gets rearranged ...........

the max value is 6.62 w/kg for a 20 minute effort.

Phil H

Fred on a stick

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Jul 21, 2010, 8:03:59 AM7/21/10
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On 7/21/2010 1:51 AM, Phil H wrote:

> That number roughly agrees with Andy Coggan's power tables.

> the max value is 6.62 w/kg for a 20 minute effort.

Panache.

Andy Coggan

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Jul 21, 2010, 11:21:27 AM7/21/10
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On Jul 19, 9:57 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I'm not sure how reliable all this data is.

Neither am I.

Andy Coggan

Choppy Warburton

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Jul 21, 2010, 1:27:20 PM7/21/10
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Well that's a pretty convenient way to avoid analyzing someones
garbage analysis for the next 43 hours.

What happened to the Hippocratic oath Dr?

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