Longest track Stand?
JAVAEYE
match sprint race? Thanks in advance.
Brian Lafferty
JHansen882
i cant recall the race... I believe that there is a 2 minute max limit .....
John Hansen
Jhans...@aol.com
Sarasota Fl.
JAVAEYE
>i cant recall the race... I believe that there is a 2 minute max limit .....
>
>
>
> John Hansen
Before limits were put into effect, I recall that there were track stands in
excess of several hours. I just can't recall what the record was for length of
time. Hope someone can clarify the time.
Brian Lafferty
Warren
<jav...@aol.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know what the record is for the longest track stand during a
> match sprint race?
I'll...let you...know...when I'm...done.
John Shanley
Try e-mailing fat...@fatnick.com
He seems to be a wealth of obscure track info and data. You've seen his
site haven't you?
John A
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Bart Van Hoorebeeck
cant remember the riders. I guess it happened decades ago.
Bart
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> Brian Lafferty
>
I'm curious about this too. I recall the 1986 Worlds where an East German
rider stood for, what seemed like, several minutes in turn one. I believe the
rules have now changed making very long stands a thing of the past.
Jay
Carl Sundquist
Didn't an American named Dave Steed hold the record back in the early 80's with
about a 10 hour track stand? I seem to recall that the guy had an incredible sense
of balance. He was able to pick up a 10 or 12 foot 2x4 board and balance it on end
on his chin. I think ha may have done some balancing stunts on Letterman, also in
the early 80's.
I think I heard about 10 years ago that some Japanese rider had done one for 24
hours or something like that, pretty much stifling motivation for others to try to
surpass the record.
As for competition, the USCF rule 2F5 (b) states: Riders are not permitted to stand
still for more than 3 minutes during a race. After this period, the leading rider
shall move off on the signal of the starter.
Pain in the Ass department: I wonder if the 3 minute rule is per trackstand or
cumulative per heat?
scott patton
>match sprint race? Thanks in advance.
Not sure what the record is, but the rule is now 3 minutes, so records
won't be falling
Scott
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Carl Sundquist <car...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Pain in the Ass department: I wonder if the 3 minute rule is per trackstand or
>cumulative per heat?
1998 EDS Cup, Colorado Springs
Jame Carney vs Jason Garner
3 Minutes ...... told to roll off
Re-attempted on the back straight
I *BELIEVE* the gun was fired and they started over as the 3 minutes
was per ride. If they werent re-started, they were told to race, not
allowed to trackstand.
Other interesting thing.....
As Carney came down the home straight at about 18+ mph he hit the line,
jacked up his rear wheel, and dropped right into the track stand.
Garner couldn't believe it, passed him and got stopped a little
past Carney. When they were told to roll of Carney was told to go
to the front because "Garner matched Carney's track stand" even
though he passed him. Very odd. Didnt matter, Carney won.
Scott
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durning a race anyway? Isn't the object of the race to MOVE the
fastest?
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>durning a race anyway? Isn't the object of the race to MOVE the
>fastest?
>
>DN
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It is used to force an adversary to the front so that you can draft and come
around in the final sprint.
Brian Lafferty
Mike Gladu
patton) wrote:
> Other interesting thing.....
>
> As Carney came down the home straight at about 18+ mph he hit the line,
> jacked up his rear wheel, and dropped right into the track stand.
> Garner couldn't believe it, passed him and got stopped a little
> past Carney. When they were told to roll of Carney was told to go
> to the front because "Garner matched Carney's track stand" even
> though he passed him. Very odd. Didnt matter, Carney won.
>
Whoever is obligated at the end of the first lap has to assume the lead.
Mike G.
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Mike Gladu <8han...@mindless.com> wrote:
>In article <7qm6c3$gae$1...@babu.pcisys.net>, spa...@babu.pcisys.net (scott
>patton) wrote:
>
>> Other interesting thing.....
>>
>> As Carney came down the home straight at about 18+ mph he hit the line,
>> jacked up his rear wheel, and dropped right into the track stand.
>> Garner couldn't believe it, passed him and got stopped a little
>> past Carney. When they were told to roll of Carney was told to go
>> to the front because "Garner matched Carney's track stand" even
>> though he passed him. Very odd. Didnt matter, Carney won.
>>
>
>Whoever is obligated at the end of the first lap has to assume the lead.
>
Which is how it was called....just explained differently. You were there,
weren't you?
Scott
ps. Carney had just finished the points race as well....won that, then
won the sprints!
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Alan Bishop
>
> Forgive my stupidity, but what exactly is a track stand used for
> durning a race anyway? Isn't the object of the race to MOVE the
> fastest?
>
prefer to come off the wheel with a burst of accelaration - others
prefer the front position. The 250m tracks with short straights favour
the rider who can race from the front. Long straights favour the rider
who can come off the wheel.
The track stand can be used to to force a rider to the front or to take
the edge off the opponent's legs.
I'm not sure of the record for a race - I think about 12 hours.
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Alan Bishop
>
> In article <37CE7C31...@earthlink.net>,
> Carl Sundquist <car...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >Pain in the Ass department: I wonder if the 3 minute rule is per trackstand or
> >cumulative per heat?
>
> 1998 EDS Cup, Colorado Springs
>
> Jame Carney vs Jason Garner
>
> 3 Minutes ...... told to roll off
>
> Re-attempted on the back straight
>
> I *BELIEVE* the gun was fired and they started over as the 3 minutes
> was per ride. If they werent re-started, they were told to race, not
> allowed to trackstand.
>
>
> As Carney came down the home straight at about 18+ mph he hit the line,
> jacked up his rear wheel, and dropped right into the track stand.
> Garner couldn't believe it, passed him and got stopped a little
> past Carney. When they were told to roll of Carney was told to go
> to the front because "Garner matched Carney's track stand" even
> though he passed him. Very odd. Didnt matter, Carney won.
>
>
> --
>
Jimmy Jaques, the announcer at the Superdrome, used to announce the
record every time Neiwand or Hubner or Hill or who-ever would do a stand
for the crowd........
AJB
Brian Roth
>
> >
> > --
> >
> Jimmy Jaques, the announcer at the Superdrome, used to announce the
> record every time Neiwand or Hubner or Hill or who-ever would do a stand
> for the crowd........
>
> AJB
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> Alan J Bishop A J BISHOP ENGINEERS & CONSULTANTS
> abi...@hyper.net.au 3 Kelvin St
> ph/fax: +61 8 8344 9927 Nailsworth
> mobile: 0409 281 892 South Australia 5083
> --------------------------------------------------------->>>>>>>
Are there more than one SuperDrome? I am familiar with the
EDS SuperDrome here in TX, but I thought Hubner had retired by the
time it opened (1997)
Brian
scott patton
Yes, the ORIGINAL Superdrome.... in Adeleie (I know I spelled it
wrong) Australia. 250m, true board track, indoors, from what I
have heard it is just INCREDIBLE!
Scott
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Brian Roth
Ah yes, I should have known that. Us Texans are often unaware
of anything outside our state!
Brian
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>> >> record every time Neiwand or Hubner or Hill or who-ever would do a stand
>> >> for the crowd........
Ok. Now, just what did Jimmy say ...... or is the exact time still a mystery?
Carl Sundquist
> > >Are there more than one SuperDrome? I am familiar with the
> > >EDS SuperDrome here in TX, but I thought Hubner had retired by the
> > >time it opened (1997)
> > >
> > >Brian
> >
> > Yes, the ORIGINAL Superdrome.... in Adeleie (I know I spelled it
> > wrong) Australia. 250m, true board track, indoors, from what I
> > have heard it is just INCREDIBLE!
> >
> > Scott
> > --
> >
>
> Ah yes, I should have known that. Us Texans are often unaware
> of anything outside our state!
With apologies for lacking specific names for individual velodromes, the
Adelaide, Australia track, the track in Greece where Junior Worlds were just
held, the Manchester, England velodrome, et. al. come from the blueprints of Ron
Webb of Great Britain. I believe the Manchester track is a carbon copy of the
Adelaide track. Whether they bothered to get a trademark on the name Superdrome
or not, I don't know.
Incidentally, the Adelaide track is considered more to a pursuiter/points racer's
preference with its wide turns and short straights which make it more difficult
for sprinters to pass at top speed in the last 200 meters because the 2nd rider
gets hung out to dry and doesn't have a long enough finishing straight to make it
past the lead rider. But it's still a fast track and wonderful facility.
Alan Bishop
You will have to ask Jimmy - I can't remember...........
But you should have been there just to watch those guys turn on a show.
Mike Gladu
patton) wrote:
> >Whoever is obligated at the end of the first lap has to assume the lead.
> >
>
> Which is how it was called....just explained differently. You were there,
> weren't you?
>
> Scott
No. Sigh. Just grabbed the book when the question came up.
> ps. Carney had just finished the points race as well....won that, then
> won the sprints!
Wish he and his bro would take that speed overseas and hit the six day circuit.