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BLafferty

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Jan 20, 2011, 10:27:09 AM1/20/11
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To quote a friend who emailed me, it turns out that the drug was intended to
"...help severe blood-loss trauma patients survive, but it had
incredible oxygen vector characteristics. A "Super-booster" for an
athlete. Baxter (the manufacturer) never angled it that way, as it had
no legitimate medical application for that use. Armstrong found out
about it from a friend at Baxter and arranged to secure a large portion
of the supply after it failed its clinical trials and was rejected.
Armstrong needed medical help to figure out how to best apply it, and he
brought in Ferarri. Apparently this drug was responsible for many of his
'superhuman' efforts."
It's not clear to me from what I've read in the Boulder Report whether
HemAssist was actually responsible for Lance's superhuman efforts but I
do believe that an athlete like Lance (and others mentioned in the
Boulder Report who appear to have attempted to use similar products
including Michael Rasmussen) would want to get their hands on it if they
believed it could boost their performance beyond the ability of blood
doping or EPO.

http://fraudbytes.blogspot.com/2011/01/lance-armstrong-investigation-what-si.html#more

RicodJour

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Jan 20, 2011, 10:48:11 AM1/20/11
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On Jan 20, 10:27 am, BLafferty <b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
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> To quote a friend

Never start a post with a lie.

R

William R. Mattil

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Jan 20, 2011, 11:18:04 AM1/20/11
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On 1/20/2011 9:27 AM, BLafferty wrote:
> To quote a friend who emailed me,

Drivel snipped


This is an obvious Lie. You have no friends. You therefore should vacate
your domicile and leave the country before being convicted of perjury by rbr


Bill


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William R. Mattil

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RicodJour

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Jan 20, 2011, 11:54:17 AM1/20/11
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On Jan 20, 11:18 am, "William R. Mattil" <wrmat...@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

> On 1/20/2011 9:27 AM, BLafferty wrote:
>
> > To quote a friend who emailed me,
>
> Drivel snipped
>
> This is an obvious Lie. You have no friends. You therefore should vacate
> your domicile and leave the country before being convicted of perjury by rbr

Back up there a second, ol hoss. I thought we executed THEN
convicted.

R

Choppy Warburton

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Jan 20, 2011, 12:27:07 PM1/20/11
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Baxter will help uncover the employee and a test that will be used on
all of Lance's old blood.

But the question is - if Hemassit worked why the positive 1999 EPO
tests? Wouldn't you keep using the 'good stuff' ?

Or is it a case of lost efficacy and needing to go back and forth
between the two like a famer does with crops. ?


Lance Armstrong Investigation: What the SI Article Tells Us


Now that the full version of the SI article is out, it looks like we
had the most significant news in yesterday's synopsis. Although much
of what SI wrote about is old news, they did give a lot of new details
that we didn't have before. In addition, at least one new item from
the article is a potential bomb shell for Lance in terms of the
Novitzky investigation: the HemAssist issue. Here is why...

I've done some reading about HemAssist and found a very interesting
commentary on it in reading Bicycling.com's "Boulder Report." The
commentary explains that HemAssist was thought to be a super drug for
an endurance athlete--even better than EPO or blood doping. HemAssist
was designed and claimed to add hemoglobin to a person's blood supply
in a way that increased both the oxygen carrying capacity of the blood
and make the oxygen more quickly accessible relative to human blood.
Basically, more oxygen delivered to the muscles means less fatigue at
higher power outputs.

HemAssist was being tested as an aid for trauma patients who lost
blood but it was believed to have these properties for athletes as
well. Bottom line: if using EPO is like adding a turbo charger then
HemAssist would be like adding a dual turbo or even more as is in the
Bugatti Veyron Super Sport which uses four turbos! Importantly, there
were (are) no drug tests for HemAssist; it's a greedy Tour de France
contender's dream!!

In the Boulder Report, Joe Lindsay also explains why Lance's alleged
acquisition and use of HemAssist is of interest to Jeffrey Novitzky.
Lance and his attorney, Mark Fabiani, claim that the FDA is wasting
taxpayer money looking into some old bike races held on foreign soil.
Conventional wisdom was that the FDA was interested because Lance had
federal funding from US Postal and doping would constitute fraud. Then
we learned that Novitzky may have been looking at the drug chain where
legalized drugs such as EPO were being distributed illegally. However,
Joe Lindsay has another and, in my view, very compelling response to
someone who asks: Why should the FDA care about Lance's Tour de France
wins? Here is his response:

(B)ecause one of the most famous sportsmen of the last half-
century stands accused of buying stocks of a tightly controlled
investigational drug – manufactured by an American pharmaceutical
company and intended for use only in clinical trial settings under the
regulation of the FDA or its European counterparts and which is
illegal to use for any other purpose, or even for a private citizen to
possess, much less transport internationally – to pull off a
monumental sporting fraud. I think that subject is well within the
FDA’s investigatory wheelhouse. And I eagerly await Fabiani and
Armstrong’s explanation for why it’s not.

Again, why would Lance have wanted HemAssist? To quote a friend who

Even after we discover all that Novitzky has been up to during the
past year, Lance may be the only one who ever knows whether it was
HemAssist that allowed him to drop his rivals on climbs such as L'Alpe
d'Huez and beat the best dopers in the individual time trials or
not...In any case, we now know more about why Novitzky and his team is
not going to give up easily and will be a very difficult adversary for
Lance and his gold plated PR and legal team...

Brad Anders

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Jan 20, 2011, 12:35:09 PM1/20/11
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Should be straightforward for the Feds to identify this "friend of
Lance's at Baxter" and get him/her to testify against Lance in
exchange for immunity. Details from this insider on the drugs he/she
personally supplied Lance should be the proverbial "smoking gun" or
"nail in the coffin" that everyone has been waiting for. You would
really have to start to wonder what's going on if that person is never
identified, wouldn't you?

Fred

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Jan 20, 2011, 12:42:47 PM1/20/11
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The Clintons had him killed. You'll never find the body.

Fred

BLafferty

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Jan 20, 2011, 1:07:28 PM1/20/11
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I agree. It should be easy enough to inventory the supply, find out who
had access and provide a link, phone, text, email to Armstrong. I would
expect that to be set out at least in part in an indictment. The detail
might have to await a Bill of Particulars during criminal discovery.

Beloved Fred No. 1

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Jan 20, 2011, 2:35:26 PM1/20/11
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Brad Anders wrote:
>> Should be straightforward for the Feds to identify this "friend of
>> Lance's at Baxter" and get him/her to testify against Lance in
>> exchange for immunity.

Fred wrote:
> The Clintons had him killed. You'll never find the body.

Are the Clintons aliens ? And in that case why would an alien want a
blow job unless it was to provide deep cover.

RicodJour

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Jan 21, 2011, 5:01:57 PM1/21/11
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The _cigar_ was the alien and it found deep cover.

R

Phil H

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Jan 21, 2011, 6:04:44 PM1/21/11
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On Jan 20, 11:07 am, BLafferty <b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 1/20/2011 12:35 PM, Brad Anders wrote:
>
> > Should be straightforward for the Feds to identify this "friend of
> > Lance's at Baxter" and get him/her to testify against Lance in
> > exchange for immunity. Details from this insider on the drugs he/she
> > personally supplied Lance should be the proverbial "smoking gun" or
> > "nail in the coffin" that everyone has been waiting for. You would
> > really have to start to wonder what's going on if that person is never
> > identified, wouldn't you?
>
> I agree. It should be easy enough to inventory the supply, find out who
> had access and provide a link, phone, text, email to Armstrong.I would expect

> that to be set out at least in part in an indictment.  The detail
> might have to await a Bill of Particulars during criminal discovery.

It should be
I would expect
might have to

Is there something you are not sure of? I'll rephrase that; is there
anything you are sure of?
Phil H

BLafferty

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Jan 21, 2011, 6:47:55 PM1/21/11
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I am sure that you are a FuckTard. I used to think you were a FuckWit,
but it's worse than I originally thought.

Phil H

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Jan 21, 2011, 7:48:13 PM1/21/11
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> but it's worse than I originally thought.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Typical foul mouthed retort in lieu of logical argument.
Phil H

derf...@gmail.com

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Jan 21, 2011, 11:22:07 PM1/21/11
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On Jan 20, 10:27 am, BLafferty <b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> To quote a friend who emailed me ...

whenever someone starts out saying "a friend" emailed them ... it's a
dead giveaway that they just made the shit up.

RicodJour

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Jan 22, 2011, 1:02:54 AM1/22/11
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On Jan 21, 11:22 pm, "derFah...@gmail.com" <derfah...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Some people do have friends, but your observation in this case goes
without saying.

R

Beloved Fred No. 1

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Jan 22, 2011, 5:03:48 AM1/22/11
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derF...@gmail.com wrote:
> whenever someone starts out saying "a friend" emailed them ... it's a
> dead giveaway that they just made the shit up.

Perhaps it was a Viagra selling friend from Russia or Nigeria.

BLafferty

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Jan 22, 2011, 8:16:37 AM1/22/11
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LOL!! Now I'm 100% certain that you're a FuckTard.

BLafferty

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Jan 22, 2011, 8:18:50 AM1/22/11
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You really think Zimbleman made it up, eh?

Fred Flintstein

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Jan 22, 2011, 10:44:47 AM1/22/11
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Dumbass,

He's an accountant, telling people the shit is
better than EPO.

Fred Flintstein

BLafferty

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Jan 22, 2011, 10:51:33 AM1/22/11
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Answer the question.

derf...@gmail.com

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Jan 22, 2011, 11:47:45 AM1/22/11
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On Jan 22, 8:18 am, BLafferty <b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
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> You really think Zimbleman made it up, eh?

You mean Mormons don't ever make shit up?

Fred Flintstein

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Jan 22, 2011, 12:10:05 PM1/22/11
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Dumbass,

I don't have enough information to discern if he just made
it up or is dumber than a box of rocks. But certainly one
of those is true. Dumbass.

Fred Flintstein

Fredmaster of Brainerd

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Jan 22, 2011, 1:42:48 PM1/22/11
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On Jan 22, 8:51 am, BLafferty <b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 1/22/2011 10:44 AM, Fred Flintstein wrote:
>
> > On 1/22/2011 7:18 AM, BLafferty wrote:
> >> On 1/21/2011 11:22 PM, derFah...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Jan 20, 10:27 am, BLafferty<b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >>>> To quote a friend who emailed me ...
>
> >>> whenever someone starts out saying "a friend" emailed them ... it's a
> >>> dead giveaway that they just made the shit up.
>
> >> You really think Zimbleman made it up, eh?
>
> > Dumbass,
>
> > He's an accountant, telling people the shit is
> > better than EPO.
>
> > Fred Flintstein
>
> Answer the question.

I read it.

He says, "t's not clear to me from what I've read in


the Boulder Report whether HemAssist was actually
responsible for Lance's superhuman efforts but I do

believe that an athlete like Lance (and others [...])


would want to get their hands on it if they believed
it could boost their performance beyond the ability
of blood doping or EPO."

So basically, he doesn't know jack shit. He has an
assumption.

Fredmaster Ben

BLafferty

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Jan 22, 2011, 2:32:51 PM1/22/11
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You're a FuckTard Candyass.

RicodJour

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Jan 22, 2011, 2:45:16 PM1/22/11
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> You're a FuckTard Candyass.

Hey Jowls, why are you (surprise) conveniently ignoring the people
that were actual researchers involved in the actual research for the
actual drug and actually believe that the stuff would have no actual
benefit? Oh, right, you're actually just an asshole with a
preconceived opinion and an engorged LANCE-induced weewee.

Sorry, I forgot. No offense. Fwap on.

R

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