Melting Icecaps
Tom Kunich
that the North Pole was going to be ice free this year leading to global
warming of deadly effect?
Hmm, seems as how the arctic ice cap is larger this year than last.
I suppose a certain "scientist" who only believes "real scientists" who
posts here is probably not going to say anything about his pal scientists
mistaken guesses for the future.
ila...@gmail.com
Now we know that the Tour de France is really over.
-ilan
William Asher
Robert Chung
From that link:
"The ice retreated to a record level in September when the Northwest
Passage, the sea route through the Arctic Ocean, opened briefly for
the first time in recorded history."
That article obviously isn't aware that Marco Polo sailed to the North
Pole.
William Asher
I think it's more correct to say it's 50-50 whether or not Marco Polo ever
sailed to the North Pole.
Some say that the world was so much warmer during the Medieval Warm Period
that it would have been possible for Marco Polo to travel to the North Pole
by camel train. This theory will be vindicated when the retreating ice on
Ellesmere Island uncovers the remains of ancient rice paddies.
--
Bill Asher
Stu Fleming
Amundsen used the NW Passage in 1905.
Robert Chung
> Amundsen used the NW Passage in 1905.
I hope that's not your way of suggesting that Amundsen was gay.
Tom Kunich
news:488fa90c$1...@news2.actrix.gen.nz...
That doesn't count. Nor the Chinese ships of exploration in the early 1400's
that didn't find any ice along the northern coast at all.
William Asher
Well, he started in 1903, so it's not like he encountered wide-open water
and smooth sailing.
The Chinese however, well, they sailed right on through 500 years before,
colonizing the East Coast of the N. American continent. But then they all
decided to return to China because they figured they would be back later to
build the railroads.
--
Bill Asher
b...@mambo.ucolick.org
No, they left because Jews hadn't arrived in North
America yet, so it was harder to make a go of running
a Chinese restaurant.
Davey Crockett
Al Whore got a Nobel prize for spouting his bullshit when anyone with
half a brain knows that the current warming trend is cyclical and that
the Kyoto Kaper is a Krock of Krap and will at best produce a .2 of
one degree cooling effect in the next 40 - 50 years.
Meanwhile his son got busted whilst performing an advertizing stunt
for Toyota.- Like smoking dope when he was pissed whilst driving a
Prius at around 160 klicks an hour. Toyota was happy as Hell with all
the free press coverage and the now incontrovertible proof that their
bucket of bolts could push the needle past 150 klicks without
disintegrating.
Any way, Al Whore should have fallen foul of the CPS for failing to
properly educate his braindead kid. In Bethesda, Maryland all you need
to do to beat the rap is to give the Klan Salute since all the
policemen in that part of world are White Knights and in any instance
the Cops find it much more personally profitable to run a Yankee Trap
than bust some Space Cadet.
But all things considered, G-Dumya was the guy that got shafted out of
a Nobel Prize when he proved that Newton and Einstein were just
dilletants a did'nt know shit about shit when he brought down three
World Trade Center buildings when only two got hit and moreover
brought them down considerably faster than the 9.8m/s-squared that
Newton and Einstein fooled the world with for years - well all except
Max Planck and Nils Bohr anyway who both always knew Einstein was full
of shit.
--
Davey Crockett
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Nearly one-third of British Muslim students support killing
in the name of religion, a new survey found.
- So why not line the Wankers up and give them a taste of
their own medicine?
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Fly your Nation's Flag
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Frank Drackman
"Robert Chung" <rec...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 30, 12:47 am, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>That article obviously isn't aware that Marco Polo sailed to the North
>Pole.
Did his parents name him after the game kids play in the pool?
Frank Drackman
"William Asher" <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9AEAB17B0...@130.133.1.4...
>
> The Chinese however, well, they sailed right on through 500 years before,
> colonizing the East Coast of the N. American continent. But then they all
> decided to return to China because they figured they would be back later
> to
> build the railroads.
>
The had to wait until the population was big enough to support laundries
zzfra...@mac.com
> But all things considered, G-Dumya was the guy that got shafted out of
> a Nobel Prize when he proved that Newton and Einstein were just
> dilletants a did'nt know shit about shit when he brought down three
> World Trade Center buildings when only two got hit and moreover
> brought them down considerably faster than the 9.8m/s-squared that
> Newton and Einstein fooled the world with for years - well all except
> Max Planck and Nils Bohr anyway who both always knew Einstein was full
> of shit.
>
> --
> Davey Crockett
> -
Good post but "considerably faster than the 9.8m/s-squared" seems a
stretch.
Robert Chung
wrote:
> No, they left because Jews hadn't arrived in North
> America yet, so it was harder to make a go of running
> a Chinese restaurant.
Well, we're now in year 5768 in the Hebrew calendar but only 4706 in
the Chinese calendar. What'd you guys eat for 1062 years?
Davey Crockett
Davey never spoils a good yarn for the sake of sticking to the facts.
--
Davey Crockett
Donald Munro
> The Chinese however, well, they sailed right on through 500 years before,
> colonizing the East Coast of the N. American continent.
I thought Chinatown was in San Francisco.
Donald Munro
> That article obviously isn't aware that Marco Polo sailed to the North
> Pole.
But was he a doper ?
Davey Crockett
You have the map upside down again
--
Davey Crockett
Donald Munro
> Well, we're now in year 5768 in the Hebrew calendar but only 4706 in the
> Chinese calendar. What'd you guys eat for 1062 years?
Big macs ?
b...@mambo.ucolick.org
Dumbass,
Don't pay any attention to the calendar! That's
just something we use to backdate stock options
for the goyim.
Ben
Geraard Spergen
> But all things considered, G-Dumya was the guy that got shafted out of
> a Nobel Prize when he proved that Newton and Einstein were just
> dilletants a did'nt know shit about shit when he brought down three
> World Trade Center buildings when only two got hit and moreover
> brought them down considerably faster than the 9.8m/s-squared that
> Newton and Einstein fooled the world with for years - well all except
> Max Planck and Nils Bohr anyway who both always knew Einstein was full
> of shit.
Who's Nils Bohr?
Andre
Do we have to talk about ice when the Tour is over? Why don't we talk
about wine? Let's have a poll: what's one of your favourite wines?
1. Vega Sicilia Reserva Especial...for me
Andre
Amit Ghosh
dumbass,
cadel evans has some fine whines.
Andre
>
> - Show quoted text -
oh man enough with the puns already..Oh and I meant Vega Sicilia
"Unico" Reserva Especial
SLAVE of THE STATE
I get 5L boxes of Peter Vella Chardonnay for $8 at Walmart.
I suppose the Faux Wine Expert Dude can tell me that I can't really
distinguish one cheap wine from another. But I can. Some of them are
really quite nasty. But the Vella is tolerable, considering the
relative price.
I got a few boxes. Time for a party up at the trailer.
One of my relatives is a winemaker in the West Dry Creek region.
Sometimes I get some righteous Cabernet for free.
Michael Press
<f096a756-6e08-4473...@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
Andre <ANDREJA...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Mauro Veglio, Barolo, 2003.
--
Michael Press
Howard Kveck
SLAVE of THE STATE <gwh...@ti.com> wrote:
> One of my relatives is a winemaker in the West Dry Creek region.
> Sometimes I get some righteous Cabernet for free.
That's the best way to get it. I had a friend whose sister worked at Ridge and
they got to buy the bottles they open to sample for about nothing. That came in handy
at times.
--
tanx,
Howard
The bloody pubs are bloody dull
The bloody clubs are bloody full
Of bloody girls and bloody guys
With bloody murder in their eyes
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
Howard Kveck
zzfra...@mac.com wrote:
The only thing it's missing is the part about how the Jeeewwwwss stayed home on
9-11.
(And to beat Donald to the punch, it wasn't because they had leftover Chinese
food.)
Donald Munro
> I get 5L boxes of Peter Vella Chardonnay for $8 at Walmart.
How do you fit them into a clown car ?
Carl Sundquist
"SLAVE of THE STATE" <gwh...@ti.com> wrote in message
news:9ccc2dab-7502-4246...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
I get 5L boxes of Peter Vella Chardonnay for $8 at Walmart.
I suppose the Faux Wine Expert Dude can tell me that I can't really
distinguish one cheap wine from another. But I can. Some of them are
really quite nasty. But the Vella is tolerable, considering the
relative price.
I got a few boxes. Time for a party up at the trailer.
One of my relatives is a winemaker in the West Dry Creek region.
Sometimes I get some righteous Cabernet for free.
--------------------
You of all people should know that nothing is free.
SLAVE of THE STATE
> "SLAVE of THE STATE" <gwh...@ti.com> wrote in messagenews:9ccc2dab-7502-4246...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
Think of it like an entry fee; I pay whether I drink or not.
None of this will matter soon. Jesus Obama will turn the water to
wine.
Tom Kunich
news:3b959e5c-88f8-49d8...@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> "The ice retreated to a record level in September when the Northwest
> Passage, the sea route through the Arctic Ocean, opened briefly for
> the first time in recorded history."
>
> Pole.
Psst - that was a record FOR SEPTEMBER.
As someone has reminded me:
http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2008/07/30/polar-ice-check-still-a-lot-of-ice-up-there/
Why is it that you Liberals want to see every possible problem AND you want
to blame it either on all humans in general or the United States in
particular?
William Asher
Watt looks at the ice cover and thinks everything is hunky-dory because
he's a 2-d kinda guy. But just like Khan Noonien Singh, thinking 2-
dimensionally in a 3-d battlespace can get you in trouble.
My favorite arctic ice graphic:
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/217299main_NSIDC_Fig2_iceage_500.jpg
It shows fairly definitively why so many polar scientists think the recent
decline in sea ice is a big deal. The decline in thicker, multi-year ice
has been precipitous over the last decade. This is why Serreze speculated
that the N. Pole *might* be ice free this summer.
Sauce for the goose: remember, anyone will tell you it ain't necessarily
how long it is, it's also how thick it is.
--
Bill Asher
ST
xfadnXcJ-uCl9w_V...@earthlink.com, "Tom Kunich"
<cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
http://www.barentsobserver.com/?cat=16149&id=4498513
More ice than expected in parts of the Arctic
RicodJour
>
> Why is it that you Liberals want to see every possible problem AND you want
> to blame it either on all humans in general or the United States in
> particular?
"Want" to see every possible problem? Selective ignorance is still
ignorance.
If you don't blame the problems on humans and/or the US (assuming that
you believe they are mutually exclusive sets), what are you suggesting
is to blame?
Revise and resubmit.
R
Howard Kveck
RicodJour <rico...@worldemail.com> wrote:
In the case of climate change, he thinks there is no problem, but the evil
Liberals are pretending there is so they can exploit that and ruuullle ze vorld, bwa
hahahahaha!
Kurgan Gringioni
The Holocaust was a hoax!
Donald Munro
> In the case of climate change, he thinks there is no problem, but the
> evil Liberals are pretending there is so they can exploit that and ruuullle ze
> vorld, bwa hahahahaha!
and institute polygamy.
Andre
evil liberals? Here is the perfect description for conservatives:
The term bourgeois is a social label applied to an individual who is
seen as typical of the middle classes, both upper and lower, valuing
materialism and being respectable.[1] Exuding an image of success
through consumption, personal behavior, speech and intellectual
development are common attributes of a bourgeois personality. As
opposed to a person with radical tendencies or one who exhibits
bohemianism, the bourgeois lifestyle tends to be more traditional,
centered around consumerism and activities deemed respectable by the
bourgeoisie. The term may be used with negative connotations,
emphasizing the conspicuous consumption patterns, materialism and
status obsession of a bourgeois mind-set.
To expand: Liberals are usually the minority in an issue. But when
they become the majority in a certain issue, then they are called
conservative.
Conservatives will look at an issue and not analyze it. Instead they
will see what the majority are in favor of and then form their
opinion; the same as a bourgeois personality. Conservatism and
Liberalism are just a cute infantile way of labeling people. It's very
concept has no ground to stand on because of it's own flip-flopping
nature.
Andre
Bill C
> On Jul 29, 3:15 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> The Holocaust was a hoax!
Troll-o-meter time...
Bill C
SLAVE of THE STATE
I drink half in the parking lot, then go for a ride in the clown car.
Donald Munro
>> > I get 5L boxes of Peter Vella Chardonnay for $8 at Walmart.
Donald Munro wrote:
>> How do you fit them into a clown car ?
SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
> I drink half in the parking lot, then go for a ride in the clown car.
One way to liven up a parking lot crit.
Michael Press
<be3f9444-1b1a-45b3...@r35g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
Bill C <trito...@verizon.net> wrote:
[Tap-tap] The batteries must be dead in mine.
--
Michael Press
Donald Munro
> [Tap-tap] The batteries must be dead in mine.
Perhaps the sarcasmmeter batteries are compatible.
ST
d763e337-5705-4ab4...@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com,
"RicodJour" <rico...@worldemail.com> wrote:
Gore has recently been blaming fires in CA (and others..) on man and global
warming?!?!? Is he an idiot?
Does he think man invented fire in the last couple hundred years? Fire is
one of natures ways of renewing itself. Someone has to tell him it has been
happening for millions of years!
Also.... Tell Rosie a secret! Fire is what is used to forge steel into
finished shapes too!
ST
YOURhoward-5A4AD...@newsgroups.comcast.net, "Howard Kveck"
<YOURh...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote:
> In article
> <d763e337-5705-4ab4...@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> RicodJour <rico...@worldemail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 31, 9:43 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Why is it that you Liberals want to see every possible problem AND you want
>>> to blame it either on all humans in general or the United States in
>>> particular?
>>
>> "Want" to see every possible problem? Selective ignorance is still
>> ignorance.
>>
>> If you don't blame the problems on humans and/or the US (assuming that
>> you believe they are mutually exclusive sets), what are you suggesting
>> is to blame?
>
> In the case of climate change, he thinks there is no problem, but the evil
> Liberals are pretending there is so they can exploit that and ruuullle ze
> vorld, bwa
> hahahahaha!
It is starting already Baby Howie.....
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2008/08/01/MN47122A98.DT
L
S.F. mayor proposes fines for unsorted trash
John Coté, Chronicle Staff Writer
Friday, August 1, 2008
(07-31) 20:17 PDT -- Garbage collectors would inspect San Francisco
residents' trash to make sure pizza crusts aren't mixed in with chip bags or
wine bottles under a proposal by Mayor Gavin Newsom.
And if residents or businesses don't separate the coffee grounds from the
newspapers, they would face fines of up to $1,000 and eventually could have
their garbage service stopped.
Tom Kunich
news:C4B8F8B6.596AE%sds...@sbcglobal.net...
Save your strength Steve. Howard will be supporting the commies as they haul
him off to execute him.
ST
WL2dnQh9RPmXLQ7V...@earthlink.com, "Tom Kunich"
<cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
Let him chew on this one!!
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080801/D929PVL00.html
ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. (AP) - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama
said Friday he would be willing to support limited additional offshore oil
drilling if that's what it takes to enact a comprehensive policy to foster
fuel-efficient autos and develop alternate energy sources.
Shifting from his previous opposition to expanded offshore drilling, the
Illinois senator told a Florida newspaper he could get behind a compromise
with Republicans and oil companies to prevent gridlock over energy.
Republican rival John McCain, who earlier dropped his opposition to offshore
drilling, has been criticizing Obama on the stump and in broadcast ads for
clinging to his opposition as gasoline prices topped $4 a gallon. Polls
indicate these attacks have helped McCain gain ground on Obama.
This shit about the oil companies is crap! The figures are HIGH because of
the massive amount of business done. Do you ASSBAGS know that while EXXON
made 11.7B profit in the last quarter they PAID the US Govt. over $30B in
taxes in the SAME QUARTER!
Use your brain! IF they really wanted to change things and lower oil
consumption then WHERE will they make up the revenue shortfall?
You guys keep mistaking VOLUME for PROFIT MARGIN! There are other industries
that make a higher profit margin than oil companies. Apple, Microsoft,
Yahoo, Google all had a higher margin.
Tom Kunich
>
> This shit about the oil companies is crap! The figures are HIGH because of
> the massive amount of business done. Do you ASSBAGS know that while EXXON
> made 11.7B profit in the last quarter they PAID the US Govt. over $30B in
> taxes in the SAME QUARTER!
>
> Use your brain! IF they really wanted to change things and lower oil
> consumption then WHERE will they make up the revenue shortfall?
>
> You guys keep mistaking VOLUME for PROFIT MARGIN! There are other
> industries
> that make a higher profit margin than oil companies. Apple, Microsoft,
> Yahoo, Google all had a higher margin.
Again Steve, you are mistaken if you believe that these Liberal freaks care
one iota about anything but "Tear it all down, man!" They are committing a
sort of suicide and will pay for it in the hardest possible way.
Luckily I leave no children and will be long gone before the worst of their
plans come to fruition.
Fred Fredburger
> You guys keep mistaking VOLUME for PROFIT MARGIN! There are other industries
> that make a higher profit margin than oil companies. Apple, Microsoft,
> Yahoo, Google all had a higher margin.
No matter how you argue the percentages, $11.7B is a lot of money. It is
such a staggering sum of money that you have to do something to put it
into perspective. Try this: it's enough to pull GM to within $3B of
profitability. CHRIST, that's a lot of money!llllllllllllllllllll,.
Fred Fredburger
>llllllllllllllllllll,.
I've got a kitten that wanted to say "Hi".
Tom Kunich
news:fuWdnVEb5tSMXQ7V...@comcast.com...
I'd be willing to bet that you want more than 3% on your money but you're
perfectly happy that someone else might be forced to accept less than that?
ST
"Fred Fredburger" <FredFre...@Where.Are.The.Nachos> wrote:
Do you realize how many JOBS are supplied by these companies?
RicodJour
>
> Again Steve, you are mistaken if you believe that these Liberal freaks care
> one iota about anything but "Tear it all down, man!" They are committing a
> sort of suicide and will pay for it in the hardest possible way.
You mean, like death? No one gets out alive - get over it.
> Luckily I leave no children and will be long gone before the worst of their
> plans come to fruition.
Out of morbid curiosity, and a bit of boredom, I have to ask - did you
decide to not reproduce during the acid dropping 60's, disco dancing
70's, or the coke snorting Reagan/Bush 80's? I'm assuming that in the
90's and 00's no one would have been willing to poke you with a stick,
but I'm interested whether you gave up all hope during a Republican or
Democratic administration.
R
ST
DPqdnS0Zy6frXA7V...@earthlink.com, "Tom Kunich"
<cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
Put it in perspective...........
What about charging homeowners a WINDFALL profits tax on the equity buildup
in their houses in the last 10 years!
NO WAIT!!. It is gone already!!
You think the oil industry does not use their revenues to re-invest in their
own industries? Remember..... $30B in taxes went to the government at the
same time! How are the democraps gonna find a replacement?
Fred Fredburger
ST is right to point out that when revenues are huge enough, profits and
losses tend to be large too. When I alluded to GM loss of $15.5B, it
presented another, opposite example.
I'm good with the government staying out of both those situations.
Fred Fredburger
I dropped that $15.5B GM loss into your lap hoping that you'd recognize
that it supports your original argument. Huge companies generate huge
numbers.
You are correct. Throwing around huge numbers in these instances is not
especially enlightening. You've got to go a little deeper.
Stu Fleming
> I'd be willing to bet that you want more than 3% on your money but
> you're perfectly happy that someone else might be forced to accept less
> than that?
>
The $11 billion is quarterly report; annualized, it's $44B on revenues
of $470B so the margin is considerably better. Any ISP would like to
see 11% margins.
Kurgan Gringioni
>
>
>
>
>
> <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> > "Fred Fredburger" <FredFredbur...@Where.Are.The.Nachos> wrote in message
> >news:fuWdnVEb5tSMXQ7V...@comcast.com...
> >> ST wrote:
>
> >>> You guys keep mistaking VOLUME for PROFIT MARGIN! There are other
> >>> industries
> >>> that make a higher profit margin than oil companies. Apple, Microsoft,
> >>> Yahoo, Google all had a higher margin.
>
> >> No matter how you argue the percentages, $11.7B is a lot of money. It is
> >> such a staggering sum of money that you have to do something to put it
> >> into perspective. Try this: it's enough to pull GM to within $3B of
> >> profitability. CHRIST, that's a lot of money!llllllllllllllllllll,.
>
> > I'd be willing to bet that you want more than 3% on your money but you're
> > perfectly happy that someone else might be forced to accept less than that?
>
> Put it in perspective...........
> What about charging homeowners a WINDFALL profits tax on the equity buildup
> in their houses in the last 10 years!
>
> NO WAIT!!. It is gone already!!
>
> You think the oil industry does not use their revenues to re-invest in their
> own industries? Remember..... $30B in taxes went to the government at the
> same time! How are the democraps gonna find a replacement?
Dumbass -
The Rockefeller heirs (Standard Oil is the ancestor of this company)
have been attempting to prod the company into investing in domestic
alternative sources with no success.
That comes just a a couple months after Exxon fought back a
Rockefeller-led shareholder revolt aimed at making the big oil company
focus less on oil. It also comes at a time when big Western oil
companies have been frozen out of all the best spots to look for oil,
and increasingly spent their spare billions buying back shares to prop
up corporate values.
Are the upstream guys back in business? Exxon’s capital and
exploration investments in the second quarter jumped 38% from the
prior year, to $6.9 billion. For the first half, capex was up 35%, to
$12.4 billion. Most of that is in projects like offshore oil drilling
in the Gulf of Mexico or off the coast of Africa—conventional oil, but
kind of hard to get.
Increasingly, though, as the price of oil stays above $120 even after
a seven-week slump, “unconventional reserves” are becoming more
attractive. That includes things like oil squeezed out of shale, tar
sands, and other hard-to-get oil that didn’t make any sense when crude
traded in double digits.
<snip><end>
Davey Crockett
|
| Increasingly, though, as the price of oil stays above $120 even after
| a seven-week slump, “unconventional reserves” are becoming more
| attractive. That includes things like oil squeezed out of shale, tar
| sands, and other hard-to-get oil that didn’t make any sense when crude
| traded in double digits.
|
How "viable" are the shale and tar-sands oil deposits these days
Kurgan?
I was reading somewhere - I forget exactly where and so can't quote a
source - that any time at all the cost of extracting oil from these
sources both in terms of money and useful oil will make them either
obsolete or at best a source of "last resort"
Any thoughts?
--
Davey Crockett
Bill C
Kurgan?
>
> I was reading somewhere - I forget exactly where and so can't quote a
> source - that any time at all the cost of extracting oil from these
> sources both in terms of money and useful oil will make them either
> obsolete or at best a source of "last resort"
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> --
> Davey Crockett
Yeah Davey you remembered right. I forget the figure, but oil has to
be pretty damned high for them to be economically viable, and
environmentally they are a mess to produce from.
http://www.dcaudubon.org/node/7340
Lots more out there.
Bill C
William R. Mattil
> Luckily I leave no children
Something that we can all heartily endorse.
Bill
Tom Kunich
> On 8/1/08 7:07 PM, in article
>
> their
> own industries? Remember..... $30B in taxes went to the government at the
> same time! How are the democraps gonna find a replacement?
Remember that when they taxed the crap out of smoking, most smokers finally
had enough and stopped and then the Democrats started crying that they were
losing tax income.
Tom Kunich
news:4dad387c-f632-4fbd...@a2g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
>
> The Rockefeller heirs (Standard Oil is the ancestor of this company)
> have been attempting to prod the company into investing in domestic
> alternative sources with no success.
Yeah, everyone in the world is so stupid and you've really got a handle on
how everything should run.
By the way - there's plenty of oil in the world and there's a lot of it in
the USA still. Oh, that's right - you are afraid that if Exxon drills
anymore they'll make more money.
Tom Kunich
news:489403f6$1...@news2.actrix.gen.nz...
Firstly, that isn't "annualized". It is straight income for the first
quarter. Secondly, the profits for the rest of the year could be lower or
higher according to those quarters. Thirdly, that figure does NOT count the
reinvestment for more production.
Do you suppose it's cheap to run, say, the 40,000 acre facility in Richmond?
They can't even bring large tankers into the north bay and have to offload
some in San Francisco in order to reduce the draft enough to go up to the
north bay facility. And that is a continuous problem since there's so little
runoff coming out of the delta any more. The rest of the state is using the
water and so we're getting tidewater instead of freshwater runoff. That
means that the channels are not staying open properly and you can't dredge
in the bay easily. Eventually the Richmond Refinery will be reduced to
pipelines from elsewhere or close down.
The environmentalists/Liberal freaks would love nothing better than to put
20,000 people out of work.
Davey Crockett
If I remember, I'll send you a PM later
The Athabasca Tar Sands - indirectly - was _very_ good to Davey
;)
--
Davey Crockett
RicodJour
> "Stu Fleming" <stew...@wic.co.nz> wrote in message
> > Tom Kunich wrote:
>
> >> I'd be willing to bet that you want more than 3% on your money but you're
> >> perfectly happy that someone else might be forced to accept less than
> >> that?
>
> > The $11 billion is quarterly report; annualized, it's $44B on revenues of
> > $470B so the margin is considerably better. Any ISP would like to see 11%
> > margins.
>
> Firstly, that isn't "annualized". It is straight income for the first
> quarter.
Read what Stu wrote, then read what you wrote. See if you can find
where your reading comprehension failed you. Hint ;
R
Tom Kunich
news:ff4b3c42-4c86-48ec...@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> Read what Stu wrote, then read what you wrote. See if you can find
> where your reading comprehension failed you. Hint ;
I think you ought to try a little reading comprehension yourself.
RicodJour
> "RicodJour" <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote in message
>
> > Read what Stu wrote, then read what you wrote. See if you can find
> > where your reading comprehension failed you. Hint ;
>
> I think you ought to try a little reading comprehension yourself.
A). That's not an intelligible sentence.
B). It's a lackluster comeback.
C). You failed the honor system self examination - even with a strong
hint.
Here's what Stu wrote:
> The $11 billion is quarterly report; annualized, it's $44B on revenues of
> $470B so the margin is considerably better.
See that funny mark after the word report? That's called a semi-
colon. This should bring you up to speed with the rest of the class:
http://chuma.cas.usf.edu/~olson/pms/semicolon.html
Maybe you believe that 10% interest per month is the same as 10%
interest per year.
R
Stu Fleming
I have added punctuation to irony on the list of things that have to be
grokked before the Apocalypse can occur.
Howard Kveck
Punctuation is a Liberal plot.
--
tanx,
Howard
The bloody pubs are bloody dull
The bloody clubs are bloody full
Of bloody girls and bloody guys
With bloody murder in their eyes
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
William Asher
> In article <4894dd72$1...@news2.actrix.gen.nz>, Stu Fleming
> <ste...@wic.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> RicodJour wrote:
>> > On Aug 2, 4:04 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>> >> "RicodJour" <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote in message
>> >>
>> >>> Read what Stu wrote, then read what you wrote. See if you can
>> >>> find where your reading comprehension failed you. Hint ;
>> >> I think you ought to try a little reading comprehension yourself.
>> >
>> > A). That's not an intelligible sentence.
>> > B). It's a lackluster comeback.
>> > C). You failed the honor system self examination - even with a
>> > strong hint.
>> >
>> > Here's what Stu wrote:
>> >> The $11 billion is quarterly report; annualized, it's $44B on
>> >> revenues of $470B so the margin is considerably better.
>> >
>> > See that funny mark after the word report? That's called a semi-
>> > colon. This should bring you up to speed with the rest of the
>> > class: http://chuma.cas.usf.edu/~olson/pms/semicolon.html
>>
>> I have added punctuation to irony on the list of things that have to
>> be grokked before the Apocalypse can occur.
>
> Punctuation is a Liberal plot.
>
Tom would have been all over it had a colon been used.
--
Bill "can't resist" Asher
Robert Chung
> Tom would have been all over it had a colon been used.
Ancient riddle: How can you distinguish between an IBM Selectric
typewriter and Ronald Reagan? The Selectric has a memory and a colon.
BTW, if he's elected McCain will be older at his inauguration than
Reagan was at his.
Bill C
>
> Tom would have been all over it had a colon been used.
>
> --
> Bill "can't resist" Asher- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Colons are SOooo gay ;-)
Bill C
William Asher
d52836...@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
> On Aug 3, 1:28 am, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Tom would have been all over it had a colon been used.
>
> BTW, if he's elected McCain will be older at his inauguration than
> Reagan was at his.
I remind myself that if that happens we are all going to die eventually
anyway and before that happens, watching McCain in office will be as fun
as watching a NASCAR race run in the rain.
--
Bill Asher
William Asher
d49215...@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com:
Do you think space aliens on Uranus use colons?
--
Bill "8th grade mascot" Asher
Davey Crockett
|
| Maybe you believe that 10% interest per month is the same as 10%
| interest per year.
|
| R
Even One percent a year is better than ten percent a month - provided
you compound it daily
;)
Davey used to just love calculating mortgage schedules before Al Whore
improved on Charley Babbidge's Calculating Engine that he made in his
spare time when he wasn't Planking Byron's Sister
--
Davey Crockett
Howard Kveck
> On 7/31/08 9:28 PM, in article
> YOURhoward-5A4AD...@newsgroups.comcast.net, "Howard Kveck"
> <YOURh...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <d763e337-5705-4ab4...@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> > RicodJour <rico...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Jul 31, 9:43 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Why is it that you Liberals want to see every possible problem AND you
> >>> want
> >>> to blame it either on all humans in general or the United States in
> >>> particular?
> >>
> >> "Want" to see every possible problem? Selective ignorance is still
> >> ignorance.
> >>
> >> If you don't blame the problems on humans and/or the US (assuming that
> >> you believe they are mutually exclusive sets), what are you suggesting
> >> is to blame?
> >
> > In the case of climate change, he thinks there is no problem, but the
> > evil Liberals are pretending there is so they can exploit that and ruuullle ze
> > vorld, bwa hahahahaha!
>
>
> It is starting already Baby Howie.....
>
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2008/08/01/MN47122A98.DT
> L
>
> S.F. mayor proposes fines for unsorted trash
I see, that has *sooo* much to do with what I said about climate change. Next
thing you'll be squawking about is how Newsom is going to force you into teh gay
marriage.
Robert Chung
>
> >> Tom would have been all over it had a colon been used.
> > Colons are SOooo gay ;-)
>
> Do you think space aliens on Uranus use colons?
You saying there are Klingons around Uranus?
Donald Munro
> I see, that has *sooo* much to do with what I said about climate
> change. Next thing you'll be squawking about is how Newsom is going to force you into
> teh gay marriage.
With Priscilla, queen of the desert presumably (I think there is a desert
near Vegas, but do they do gay marriages there ?).
William Asher
No matter how low I go ...
--
Bill Asher
Robert Chung
>
> Hmm, seems as how the arctic ice cap is larger this year than last.
Well, it's been just short of a month since Tom wrote this. Here's
yesterday's update from
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/ :
August 26, 2008
Arctic sea ice now second-lowest on record
"Sea ice extent has fallen below the 2005 minimum, previously the
second-lowest extent recorded since the dawn of the satellite era."
http://nsidc.org/images/arcticseaicenews/20080826_Figure2.png
William Asher
The other interesting thing about 2008 versus 2007 is that the rate of ice
loss is not decelerating at the end of August as it usually does. For
those who want fancy color images, compare these two (well, four really)
maps of ice extent:
2007:
http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-
bin/test/print.sh?fm=08&fd=20&fy=2007&sm=08&sd=24&sy=2007
2008:
http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-
bin/test/print.sh?fm=08&fd=20&fy=2008&sm=08&sd=24&sy=2008
(I apologize for the wrapping, they don't tinyurl).
What the comparison shows is that in 2007, from August 20-24th, ice extent
recovered in places (look, for example, at the notch almost directly
poleward from Severnya Zemlya (the island of the coast of central Siberia),
it completely fills in over the five days), the areas with less than 50%
ice coverage were small in extent, and overall there was little loss. In
contrast, over the same 5 days in 2008, the 50% or less ice coverage area
was large and there was still significant loss over all regions.
You can't use this year as evidence that arctic ice loss has ceased. In
fact, it appears as if the entire arctic ice climatology has shifted in
phase.
--
Bill Asher
Davey Crockett
>
> (I apologize for the wrapping, they don't tinyurl).
>
Some Mailer/NewsReaderz user agentz have a built in
utility to unsplit long and/or broken URL/URIs
Sometimes the facility is built in, sometimes you need
to do some clicking and others require a plugin or helper
or extension
It is worth spending a few minutes searching if you are
experiencing this split frequently
BlunderBird has an extension, probably many others do to
If you use emacs/gnus it is simple and built in
--
Davey Croc...@sdf.lonestar.org
SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
Tom Kunich
news:a9ed8d7b-f84c-43c0...@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 30, 12:15 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >
> > Hmm, seems as how the arctic ice cap is larger this year than last.
>
> Well, it's been just short of a month since Tom wrote this. Here's
> yesterday's update from
> http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/ :
So you're so concerned about global warming that you've been flying back and
forth between the west coast and France? I'm impressed with your displayed
concern.
William Asher
> William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>>
>> (I apologize for the wrapping, they don't tinyurl).
>>
>
> Some Mailer/NewsReaderz user agentz have a built in
> utility to unsplit long and/or broken URL/URIs
>
Partly, I figured if anyone cared enough, they would do two copy and pastes
to get the entire URL to their browser. Then, I assumed that would be
smart enough to figure out to see the second figure, all they had to do was
change the year from 2007 to 2008 (or vice versa). But mostly, I figured
nobody gave a shit and I was talking mainly to myself.
Man it echos in here.
--
Bill Asher
RL
d5fbbd...@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com:
Michael Press
William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Robert Chung wrote:
>
> > On Jul 30, 12:15 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hmm, seems as how the arctic ice cap is larger this year than last.
> >
> > Well, it's been just short of a month since Tom wrote this. Here's
> > yesterday's update from
> > http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/ :
> >
> > August 26, 2008
> > Arctic sea ice now second-lowest on record
> >
> > "Sea ice extent has fallen below the 2005 minimum, previously the
> > second-lowest extent recorded since the dawn of the satellite era."
> >
> > http://nsidc.org/images/arcticseaicenews/20080826_Figure2.png
> >
>
> The other interesting thing about 2008 versus 2007 is that the rate of ice
> loss is not decelerating at the end of August as it usually does. For
> those who want fancy color images, compare these two (well, four really)
> maps of ice extent:
>
> 2007:
>
> 2008:
> http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-
> bin/test/print.sh?fm=08&fd=20&fy=2008&sm=08&sd=24&sy=2008
>
> (I apologize for the wrapping, they don't tinyurl).
Who is doing the wrapping? You? Then other people's newsagents
will not recognize the URL.
If your newsagent does the wrapping, then it is likely that
other newsagents will recognize the URL. If, in addition, you
put the URL in angle brackets, you increase the likelihood
that the URL will be transmitted properly and recognized.
<http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/print.sh?fm=08&fd=20&fy=2007&sm
=08&sd=24&sy=2007>
--
Michael Press
ST
Xns9B087F7CC5D72e...@131.156.1.132, "RL" <r...@ni.net> wrote:
Maybe you guys should read the shit you post FIRST!!
The Earth as a whole experienced a relatively cold period, the Little Ice
Age (LIA), between 1400 and 1800. The Earth is still recovering from the
LIA. There is nothing unusual or abnormal about the present global warming
trend and temperature. There were a number of periods when the temperature
was higher than the present. The predicted temperature in 2100 by the IPCC
is not reliable, because the present GCMs are adjusted or ³tuned² to result
in the 0.6C/100 years increase by hypothesizing the CO2 effect.
ST
Global temperatures have cooled during the past 12 months. During 2008 and
2009 the first stage of global cooling will cool the worldąs temperatures to
those observed during the years from the 1940s through the 1970s. By the
year 2023 global climate will become similar to the colder temperatures
experienced during the 1800s.
Tom Kunich
news:C4DC6F5B.5A55D%sds...@sbcglobal.net...
>
> Global temperatures have cooled during the past 12 months. During 2008 and
> those observed during the years from the 1940s through the 1970s. By the
> year 2023 global climate will become similar to the colder temperatures
> experienced during the 1800s.
Short and long term cycles in the weather pattern are too unknown to be able
to predict long term weather patterns.
Tom Kunich
news:a9ed8d7b-f84c-43c0...@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 30, 12:15 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >
> > Hmm, seems as how the arctic ice cap is larger this year than last.
>
> Well, it's been just short of a month since Tom wrote this. Here's
> yesterday's update from
Of course another thing we should find interesting about Robert's posting is
that the original predictions from his weather experts were that the arctic
ice sheet was going to disappear completely. Global catastrophe was
predicted. Now he's arguing that this is global warming and not natural
weather cycles/variations.
bjwe...@gmail.com
> > Robert Chung <rech...@gmail.com> wrote in news:a9ed8d7b-f84c-43c0-a7eb-
> > d5fbbde8c...@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> On Jul 30, 12:15 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> >>> Hmm, seems as how the arctic ice cap is larger this year than last.
>
> >> Well, it's been just short of a month since Tom wrote this. Here's
> >> yesterday's update from
> >>http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/:
>
> >> August 26, 2008
> >> Arctic sea ice now second-lowest on record
>
> >> "Sea ice extent has fallen below the 2005 minimum, previously the
> >> second-lowest extent recorded since the dawn of the satellite era."
>
> >>http://nsidc.org/images/arcticseaicenews/20080826_Figure2.png
>
> >http://icecap.us/
>
> >http://icecap.us/images/uploads/ARCTIC_ICE_IN_THE_NEWS.pdf
>
> >http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/print.sh
>
> http://icecap.us/
>
> Global temperatures have cooled during the past 12 months. During 2008 and
> those observed during the years from the 1940s through the 1970s. By the
> year 2023 global climate will become similar to the colder temperatures
> experienced during the 1800s.
Dumbass,
Icecap.us is not part of the Liberal Global Warming
Conspiracy. They're part of the "It's all, like, a big
cosmic cycle, dude! Like the Mayan cycle prophecies!"
Global Warming-Commie Fraud Red Dawn Resistance.
Well, I made up the part about the Mayan prophecies,
but the rest is accurate.
But still, did you read what you just wrote? They
reprinted a press release from some dude named
David Dilley who made an actual prediction: 2009
will be as cool as the 1940-1970s, and 2023 will
be cold like the Little Ice Age. This is empirically
testable. It's also batshit crazy. If 2009 and 2010
are as cool as the 1940-1970s, you can dig up this
post on Google and tell me I'm a dumbass.
Ben
ST
ubmdncIejqv9uyrV...@earthlink.com, "Tom Kunich"
<cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> "Robert Chung" <rec...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:a9ed8d7b-f84c-43c0...@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jul 30, 12:15 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hmm, seems as how the arctic ice cap is larger this year than last.
>>
>> Well, it's been just short of a month since Tom wrote this. Here's
>> yesterday's update from
>
>
> Of course another thing we should find interesting about Robert's posting is
> that the original predictions from his weather experts were that the arctic
> ice sheet was going to disappear completely. Global catastrophe was
> predicted. Now he's arguing that this is global warming and not natural
> weather cycles/variations.
>
That is why the Global Warming fear mongers had the DNC convention in
Denver! Mile High City baby!! No flooding!!
ST
9aa1a32e-49a2-4434...@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com,
"b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <bjwe...@gmail.com> wrote:
ASSBAG!!
I did not write it! I took it from the site!
Robert Chung
>>>
>>> Hmm, seems as how the arctic ice cap is larger this year than last.
>>
>> Well, it's been just short of a month since Tom wrote this. Here's
>> yesterday's update from
>
> Of course another thing we should find interesting about Robert's
> posting is that the original predictions from his weather experts
> were that the arctic ice sheet was going to disappear completely.
Another bit of news today:
"Ellesmere Island loses huge ice shelf"
"One of Canada's five remaining Arctic ice shelves - the 4,500-year-old,
50-sq.-km. Markham Ice Shelf - has broken completely away from Ellesmere
Island and drifted into the Arctic Ocean [...]"
From:
http://www.canada.com/story.html?id=c5b6edcf-b38d-43ee-ac83-890644071d06
Ryan Cousineau
"Robert Chung" <anonymou...@invalid.address> wrote:
Yes!
--
Ryan Cousineau rcou...@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."
Bill C
> In article <%wFvk.12185$vn7.5...@flpi147.ffdc.sbc.com>,
> "Robert Chung" <anonymous.cow...@invalid.address> wrote:
<<snipped>>>
> > Another bit of news today:
> > "Ellesmere Island loses huge ice shelf"
>
> > "One of Canada's five remaining Arctic ice shelves - the 4,500-year-old,
> > 50-sq.-km. Markham Ice Shelf - has broken completely away from Ellesmere
> > Island and drifted into the Arctic Ocean [...]"
>
> > From:
> >http://www.canada.com/story.html?id=c5b6edcf-b38d-43ee-ac83-890644071d06
>
> Yes!
>
> --
> "In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hey Ryan I've got a great idea. We invest in Maritimes beachfront
property. Ya know future Club Meds Canadian Style.
I figure we can finance it pretty easily all we have to do is dig up
a bunch of postcards, PR stuff, etc...from the Confederation Bridge,
peddle shares of it, or the whole thing a batch of times to Newfies
and we should be all set.
Worked pretty good down here with the Brooklyn bridge, so hey why not
give it a shot. Hell we might even be able to get tourist bureau, and
US small business administration grants too, along with more from some
of the CanAm friendship groups.
Bill C
Robert Chung
>> Another bit of news today:
>> "Ellesmere Island loses huge ice shelf"
> Yes!
"Warmer ocean leads to fiercer hurricanes"
From: http://tinyurl.com/5jdx4l