Gotta Feel For Him
BL
Paul Hays
> For George. 6th. So close yet again.
Not bad for an old guy.
Fred Flintstein
I feel for Chavanel. Seriously, I didn't notice George.
Fred Flintstein
BL
A. Dumas
> I feel for Chavanel.
Definitely the strongest. Too obedient to his earpiece. Waited too long
to start his sprint because Boonen came near, was almost put in the
barriers by Cancellara moving to Nuyens' wheel and ran out of room, both
laterally and longitudinally, to pass Nuyens.
To be fair, I guess not a lot of people expected the FabFab Express to
run out of steam and Chavanel to hang on. In hindsight, the winning move
for Chavanel was probably to work with Cancellara from the moment he
caught up.
Brad Anders
Agree. Nobody should forget how inconceivably hard that Flanders is,
and to make it into the deciding group at the end requires tremendous
talent, even if you don't make the podium. The difference between
winning and not in a race like this is a 0.01% kind of thing. Too bad
that George has come up short so many times, but at least he was
there.
H. Fred Kveck
wrote:
Yes to Chavanel working with Cancellara - I don't think he'd (FC) have been able
to ride Chavanel off like he did everybody a week ago.
Benjo Maso
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During the climb of the Muur he was waiting for Cancellera's attack. Perhaps
he should have attacked himself.
Benjo
Fred
Maybe Anton could've/should've won it. He keeps reminding us he was
within 0.01% of the top riders of his day...
Fred
Fred
Maybe Anton could've/should've won it. He keeps reminding us he was
TheCoz
I'm not sure why Cancellera kept his nose out in the wind for so long
during this race.
I think he had it in his legs today, but not pulling for the last 20k.
As for George, I don't feel "sorry" for the guy, I'm impressed with
his classic ability. He's always been there for so many years.
Perhaps if he had a good team to work for his win more, he would have
more wins on his list. Guess working for snot-nosed Lance for so many
years, he just didn't have it in him to pull off more wins in the
spring. JMHO~
Coz
sam
@m13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, cycl...@hotmail.com says...
Spartacus said he cramped. It sure looked like it.
s
Fredmaster of Brainerd
Even at 6th, his early season campaign has posted better
results than yours.
I wouldn't pick George to win a big race, but he could still
get lucky and pick up another semi-classic or stage this
year or next. Time will tell.
Fredmaster Ben
derf...@gmail.com
> Too obedient to his earpiece.
An argument for no radios?
Without the DS in your ear, what do you do when a favorite comes up to
you, and your designated leader isn't with him?
I suppose you think "does it help or hurt if I work with him". In
hindsight, yes it seems Chavanel should have helped. But in the moment
it seemed the right strategy was not to help, regardless of the DS.
After all, he'd been out front for a while.
If anything I think his mistake was helping at all in the final move
with Cancellara and Nuyens.
Mike Jacoubowsky
news:inalla$dpb$1...@dont-email.me...
Rewind you DVR to a spot with 2k to go, just as they rode over a small
rise. I can't believe I'm the only person who spotted what went on
between Chavanel and Cancellara. Couldn't believe that neither Phil nor
Paul picked up on it.
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
--D-y
I've been hoping all the other guys' spokes would fall out (so to
speak, of course), just once, and George would win a big one for
hisself.
How many Armstrong Tour wins was that, again? Snot nose and all... and
then, another one with Cantadore, and the work for Cavendish's stage
wins, where George showed himself to be a bear of a leadout man-- a
completely different role than he played for Legstrong.
It's a different kind of fangs, being a successful helper. Credit
where due!
I always remember when he won Gent-Wevelgem and looked like he was
embarrassed to barge on through. But then you have his record in
Flanders and Roubaix-- like I said, I hope things go his way just once
this year or next (Phil said he's doing one more year after this), if
for no other reason than to give him one to put up on the wall and say
pooh-pooh to the boo birds. Who would give their left ones, truth be
told, to have anything like George's pro experience.
--D-y
William Fred
news:l9GdnTv0cfsd3wTQ...@earthlink.com:
> Rewind you DVR to a spot with 2k to go, just as they rode over a small
> rise. I can't believe I'm the only person who spotted what went on
> between Chavanel and Cancellara. Couldn't believe that neither Phil nor
> Paul picked up on it.
I saw that too, but it went by really fast. Besides, when you realize
they were bike racers it's not so unusual for two guys to hold hands.
--
Bill Fred
Fredmaster of Brainerd
> "A. Dumas" schreef in berichtnews:inalla$dpb$1...@dont-email.me...
Benjo,
It is good to see you posting in rbr again!
Dumbasses,
30 min highlights:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buaUpLCr5Dc
(link found through steephill.tv. Godsend for late sleepers
shifted by 9 time zones.)
That was a good race. Weird to see such a large group
together at 4 km to go. The right move is a subtle thing -
the group of three never got that far ahead of the chasers,
but it might as well have been an ocean. One of the BMCs
(Ballan or Hincapie) was trying to bring them back, but good
luck out-TTing Spartacus.
Cancellara looked like hell on the Bosberg (last climb), it's
amazing he was able to ride away after that.
I have sympathy for Chavanel too, although Nuyens rode
a smart race and I feel similarly about the two riders - both
talented guys who aren't superstars and could use that one
big win to really write their name in the books. Cance and
Nuyens both took Chavanel to the right side, and you can even
see the hitch in his pedaling at the last moment, but it was
too late - by that time he wouldn't have been able to pass
Nuyens anyway.
One nice thing about spring is that despite all the stupid
shit that cycling does to destroy itself, the spring classics
and especially De Ronde remind me why I like it.
Fredmaster Ben
A. Dumas
> Rewind you DVR to a spot with 2k to go, just as they rode over a small
> rise. I can't believe I'm the only person who spotted what went on
> between Chavanel and Cancellara.
Of course you aren't the only one. Impossible to say what went on. Some
say it was a failed hand sling because Chavanel didn't pull through
behind Nuyens and Cancellara had to go from 3rd to 1st. Others say it
was Cancellara thanking Chavanel for finally taking a pull, and there
are those who say it was Cancellara forging a coalition to make Boonen
lose. Mostly looks like a failed hand sling to me.
SandpointGuy
> In article <821f293e-c04a-459f-86be-6d54f07d5bd4
>
> - Show quoted text -
If Boonen didnt go when he did, Spartacus waits awhile and dusts
everyone, who knows what the podim looks like. As it was Quik Step
got 2 out of top 4, not bad.
Sure was a good, exciting race. Hope Parix-Roubaix is as interesting.
--D-y
Looked to me like the boss called on the radio and said to cut that
shit out, and Spartacus understood when thus informed.
--D-y
P.S. Benjo, where ya been? Good to see you back!
Frederick the Great
<af9deef2-9bde-4712...@u8g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
--D-y <dusto...@mac.com> wrote:
> On Apr 3, 10:18 pm, Fredmaster of Brainerd <bjwei...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 3, 1:00 pm, BL <B...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On 4/3/2011 11:15 AM, Paul Hays wrote:> On Apr 3, 7:28 am, BL<B...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> > > >> For George. 6th. So close yet again.
> >
> > > > Not bad for an old guy.
> >
> > > At least he's been consistent both young and old.
> >
> > Even at 6th, his early season campaign has posted better
> > results than yours.
> >
> > I wouldn't pick George to win a big race, but he could still
> > get lucky and pick up another semi-classic or stage this
> > year or next. Time will tell.
>
> I've been hoping all the other guys' spokes would fall out (so to
> speak, of course), just once, and George would win a big one for
> hisself.
>
> How many Armstrong Tour wins was that, again? Snot nose and all... and
> then, another one with Cantadore, and the work for Cavendish's stage
> wins, where George showed himself to be a bear of a leadout man-- a
> completely different role than he played for Legstrong.
>
> It's a different kind of fangs, being a successful helper. Credit
> where due!
You are right about the fangs.
The pinch chop on Avenue des Champs-Élysées in 2009 is outrageous.
Not only did he deliver Cavendish, Renshaw got second.
--
Old Fritz
Anton Berlin
I drove up the Koppenberg - it was pretty hard
Benjo Maso
"--D-y" schreef in bericht
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P.S. Benjo, where ya been? Good to see you back!
Thanks! I had promised to finish a book before the first of April and being
a man whose word can often be depended on, I had to work very hard and
didn't have much time to follow all those threads on rbr. I'm sure I missed
a lot of exciting stuff...
Benjo
Simply Fred
>> Maybe Anton could've/should've won it. He keeps reminding us he was
>> within 0.01% of the top riders of his day...
Anton Berlin wrote:
> I drove up the Koppenberg - it was pretty hard
Next time don't rent a Renault 4CV.
Amit Ghosh
>
> I'm not sure why Cancellera kept his nose out in the wind for so long
> during this race.
dumbass,
it was his race to lose and he managed to do it.
Fred Flintstein
No one was going to trade pulls with him. Not after how he
ripped Boonen's legs off last year, not after he just rode
away from people the weekend before.
Fred Flintstein
--D-y
> "--D-y" schreef in berichtnews:7f771853-e55c-4726...@l18g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
New cycling book? So dish already!
--D-y
Benjo Maso
"--D-y" schreef in bericht
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It's a book about the Giro d'Italia, but trying to be a little original, I
limited myself to the Giro outside the Italian borders. More interesting
than it might seem - at least that's what I think:-)
Benjo
Fred Flintstein
> It's a book about the Giro d'Italia, but trying to be a little original, I limited myself to the Giro outside the Italian borders. More interesting than it might seem - at least that's what I think:-)
>
> Benjo
Has the Sauna Diana motorhome ever followed the Giro?
Fred Flintstein
Benjo Maso
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I don't think so, altough the younger of the Siemons brohters rode the Giro
in 1991.
Benjo
Amit Ghosh
> No one was going to trade pulls with him. Not after how he
> ripped Boonen's legs off last year, not after he just rode
> away from people the weekend before.
>
dumbass,
yes, but he could have waited until one of the later bergs or opted
not to pull when others weren't pulling through.
Ronko
says...
>
>
>Fred Flintstein wrote:
>> I feel for Chavanel.
>
>Definitely the strongest. Too obedient to his earpiece. Waited too long
>to start his sprint because Boonen came near, was almost put in the
>barriers by Cancellara moving to Nuyens' wheel and ran out of room,
both
>laterally and longitudinally, to pass Nuyens.
>
>To be fair, I guess not a lot of people expected the FabFab Express to
>run out of steam and Chavanel to hang on. In hindsight, the winning
move
>for Chavanel was probably to work with Cancellara from the moment
he
>caught up.
was the deciding factor in the race when he couldn't be dropped.