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Clem Schnide

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Jul 29, 2002, 10:34:19 PM7/29/02
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Where did Jason Waddell end up on the final Tour GC?


Dave Hansen

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"Clem Schnide" <emmaphillips...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Where did Jason Waddell end up on the final Tour GC


He ended up 31st..not to bad for his first tour with no team support
Dave

Final general classification

1 Lance Armstrong (USA) US Postal Service 82.05.12 (39.88 km/h)
2 Joseba Beloki (Spa) ONCE-Eroski 7.17
3 Raimondas Rumsas (Ltu) Lampre Daikin 8.17
4 Santiago Botero (Col) Kelme-Costa Blanca 13.10
5 Igor Gonzalez de Galdeano (Spa) ONCE-Eroski 13.54
6 José Azevedo (Por) ONCE-Eroski 15.44
7 Francisco Mancebo (Spa) iBanesto.com 16.05
8 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Rabobank 17.11
9 Roberto Heras Hernandez (Spa) US Postal Service 17.12
10 Carlos Sastre (Spa) CSC-Tiscali 19.05
11 Ivan Basso (Ita) Fassa Bortolo 19.18
12 Michael Boogerd (Ned) Rabobank 20.33
13 David Moncoutié (Fra) Cofidis 21.08
14 Massimiliano Lelli (Ita) Cofidis 27.51
15 Tyler Hamilton (USA) CSC-Tiscali 28.36
16 Richard Virenque (Fra) Domo-Farm Frites 28.42
17 Stephane Goubert (Fra) Jean Delatour 29.51
18 Unai Osa (Spa) iBanesto.com 30.17
19 Nicolas Vogondy (Fra) FDJeux.com 32.44
20 Nicki Sørensen (Den) CSC-Tiscali 32.56
21 Andrei Kivilev (Kaz) Cofidis 33.41
22 José Luis Rubiera Vigil (Spa) US Postal Service 36.43
23 Ivan Gotti (Ita) Alessio 40.16
24 Dariusz Baranowski (Pol) iBanesto.com 43.04
25 Dario Frigo (Ita) Tacconi Sport 43.15
26 Laurent Brochard (Fra) Jean Delatour 44.02
27 Beat Zberg (Swi) Rabobank 44.29
28 Axel Merckx (Bel) Domo-Farm Frites 45.39
29 José Enrique Gutierrez (Spa) Kelme-Costa Blanca 50.59
30 Alexandre Botcharov (Rus) Ag2R Prevoyance 51.52
31 Jason Waddell (USA) Mathis Brothers 56.05
32 Jean-Cyril Robin (Fra) FDJeux.com 57.35
33 Marcos A.Serrano (Spa) ONCE-Eroski 1.00.52
34 Laurent Lefèvre (Fra) Jean Delatour 1.07.00
35 Christophe Brandt (Bel) Lotto-Adecco 1.07.50
36 Sylvain Chavanel (Fra) Bonjour 1.09.26
37 Bobby Julich (USA) Team Deutsche Telekom 1.13.11
38 Isidro Nozal (Spa) ONCE-Eroski 1.13.27
39 Haimar Zubeldia (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 1.15.39
40 Volodimir Gustov (Ukr) Fassa Bortolo 1.17.26
41 Inigo Chaurreau (Spa) Ag2R Prevoyance 1.17.37
42 Laurent Jalabert (Fra) CSC-Tiscali 1.17.48
43 Piotr Wadecki (Pol) Domo-Farm Frites 1.18.12
44 Miguel Martinez (Fra) Mapei-Quick Step 1.18.42
45 Wladimir Belli (Ita) Fassa Bortolo 1.19.41
46 Roberto Laiseka (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 1.20.08
47 Marzio Bruseghin (Ita) iBanesto.com 1.26.57
48 Udo Bölts (Ger) Team Deutsche Telekom 1.29.32
49 Inigo Cuesta (Spa) Cofidis 1.29.59
50 Mario Aerts (Bel) Lotto-Adecco 1.31.17
51 Grischa Niermann (Ger) Rabobank 1.33.03
52 Patrice Halgand (Fra) Jean Delatour 1.35.38
53 Andrea Peron (Ita) CSC-Tiscali 1.39.42
54 Marco Velo (Ita) Fassa Bortolo 1.39.46
55 Cédric Vasseur (Fra) Cofidis 1.40.52
56 Kevin Livingston (USA) Team Deutsche Telekom 1.44.51
57 Santiago Blanco (Spa) iBanesto.com 1.45.09
58 Viatcheslav Ekimov (Rus) US Postal Service 1.45.51
59 George Hincapie (USA) US Postal Service 1.47.35
60 David Etxebarria (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 1.48.19
61 Floyd Landis (USA) US Postal Service 1.48.31
62 Laszlo Bodrogi (Hun) Mapei-Quick Step 1.50.05
63 Gerhard Trampusch (Aut) Mapei-Quick Step 1.51.30
64 Serguei Gontchar (Ukr) Fassa Bortolo 1.52.59
65 Tomas Konecny (Cze) Domo-Farm Frites 1.53.26
66 Cristian Moreni (Ita) Alessio 1.54.17
67 Frédéric Bessy (Fra) Credit Agricole 1.58.58
68 David Millar (GBr) Cofidis 1.59.51
69 Pavel Padrnos (Cze) US Postal Service 2.03.10
70 Eddy Mazzoleni (Ita) Tacconi Sport 2.03.46
71 Ludovic Turpin (Fra) Ag2R Prevoyance 2.04.50
72 Rolf Aldag (Ger) Team Deutsche Telekom 2.04.56
73 Victor Hugo Pena Grisales (Col) US Postal Service 2.05.24
74 Marco Serpellini (Ita) Lampre Daikin 2.05.55
75 Gianluca Bortolami (Ita) Tacconi Sport 2.06.57
76 Mikel Pradera (Spa) ONCE-Eroski 2.07.00
77 Stuart O'Grady (Aus) Credit Agricole 2.07.02
78 Abraham Olano (Spa) ONCE-Eroski 2.08.25
79 Bingen Fernandez (Spa) Cofidis 2.08.29
80 Giuseppe Guerini (Ita) Team Deutsche Telekom 2.09.26
81 Sergei Ivanov (Rus) Fassa Bortolo 2.10.07
82 Erik Zabel (Ger) Team Deutsche Telekom 2.10.33
83 Sandy Casar (Fra) FDJeux.com 2.12.22
84 David Latasa (Spa) iBanesto.com 2.13.01
85 Franck Rénier (Fra) Bonjour 2.15.08
86 Christophe Mengin (Fra) FDJeux.com 2.16.47
87 Jerome Pineau (Fra) Bonjour 2.18.24
88 Iban Mayo (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 2.18.27
89 Benoit Joachim (Lux) US Postal Service 2.19.27
90 Anthony Morin (Fra) Credit Agricole 2.19.55
91 Marc Wauters (Bel) Rabobank 2.20.30
92 Guennadi Mikhailov (Rus) Lotto-Adecco 2.20.39
93 Denis Menchov (Rus) iBanesto.com 2.21.31
94 Addy Engels (Ned) Rabobank 2.21.37
95 Javier Pascual Rodriguez (Spa) iBanesto.com 2.22.11
96 Emmanuel Magnien (Fra) Bonjour 2.22.39
97 Robert Hunter (RSA) Mapei-Quick Step 2.25.32
98 Thierry Loder (Fra) Ag2R Prevoyance 2.25.35
99 Steffen Wesemann (Ger) Team Deutsche Telekom 2.30.21
100 Christophe Edalaine (Fra) Jean Delatour 2.31.03
101 Gian Matteo Fagnini (Ita) Team Deutsche Telekom 2.32.00
102 Jerome Bernard (Fra) Jean Delatour 2.32.19
103 Andy Flickinger (Fra) Ag2R Prevoyance 2.33.13
104 Danilo Hondo (Ger) Team Deutsche Telekom 2.34.21
105 Serge Baguet (Bel) Lotto-Adecco 2.34.24
106 Andrea Tafi (Ita) Mapei-Quick Step 2.34.34
107 Pedro Horillo (Spa) Mapei-Quick Step 2.35.32
108 Ludo Dierckxsens (Bel) Lampre Daikin 2.38.44
109 Bradley McGee (Aus) FDJeux.com 2.39.02
110 Jens Voigt (Ger) Credit Agricole 2.39.35
111 Francisco Cabello (Spa) Kelme-Costa Blanca 2.40.13
112 Thor Hushovd (Nor) Credit Agricole 2.40.43
113 Cyril Dessel (Fra) Jean Delatour 2.41.24
114 Franck Bouyer (Fra) Bonjour 2.41.42
115 Stephane Augé (Fra) Jean Delatour 2.43.14
116 Constantino Zaballa (Spa) Kelme-Costa Blanca 2.44.30
117 Walter Bénéteau (Fra) Bonjour 2.45.15
118 Raivis Belohvosciks (Lat) Lampre Daikin 2.46.30
119 Andrea Brognara (Ita) Alessio 2.47.10
120 Paul van Hyfte (Bel) CSC-Tiscali 2.49.20
121 Nicola Loda (Ita) Fassa Bortolo 2.49.22
122 José Vicente Garcia Acosta (Spa) iBanesto.com 2.52.44
123 Nico Mattan (Bel) Cofidis 2.55.10
124 Enrico Cassani (Ita) Domo-Farm Frites 2.55.24
125 Jakob Storm Piil (Den) CSC-Tiscali 2.55.32
126 Thierry Marichal (Bel) Lotto-Adecco 3.00.01
127 Baden Cooke (Aus) FDJeux.com 3.00.22
128 Martin Hvastija (Slo) Alessio 3.00.38
129 Leon van Bon (Ned) Domo-Farm Frites 3.02.46
130 Robbie McEwen (Aus) Lotto-Adecco 3.03.30
131 Jan Svorada (Cze) Lampre Daikin 3.03.30
132 Fabio Baldato (Ita) Fassa Bortolo 3.04.07
133 Bram de Groot (Ned) Rabobank 3.04.44
134 José Angel Vidal (Spa) Kelme-Costa Blanca 3.06.37
135 Mauro Radaeli (Ita) Tacconi Sport 3.06.43
136 Erik Dekker (Ned) Rabobank 3.07.56
137 Servais Knaven (Ned) Domo-Farm Frites 3.09.57
138 Rubens Bertogliati (Swi) Lampre Daikin 3.10.10
139 Massimo Apollonio (Ita) Tacconi Sport 3.10.11
140 Alessandro Cortinovis (Ita) Lampre Daikin 3.11.10
141 Unai Etxebarria (Ven) Euskaltel-Euskadi 3.11.18
142 Gorka Arrizabalaga (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 3.12.45
143 Eddy Seigneur (Fra) Jean Delatour 3.12.49
144 Christophe Agnolutto (Fra) Ag2R Prevoyance 3.13.15
145 Hans De Clercq (Bel) Lotto-Adecco 3.14.14
146 Karsten Kroon (Ned) Rabobank 3.14.51
147 Sébastien Hinault (Fra) Credit Agricole 3.15.10
148 Anthony Langella (Fra) Credit Agricole 3.16.54
149 Davide Casarotto (Ita) Alessio 3.16.56
150 Stéphane Berges (Fra) Ag2R Prevoyance 3.20.44
151 Damien Nazon (Fra) Bonjour 3.22.25
152 Arvis Piziks (Lat) CSC-Tiscali 3.34.57
153 Igor Flores (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 3.35.52

Spongebob

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Was the posting about Jason Waddell correct? Was there such a person as
Jason Waddell in the Tour? I never heard his name mentioned in the
television coverage and had not heard his name or his team name before
seeing it on the racing newsgroup

Clarke
Clarke and Leslie Stanley
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Henry Chang

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Jul 30, 2002, 2:33:31 PM7/30/02
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On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:24:52 -0700, "Spongebob"
<stan...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Was the posting about Jason Waddell correct? Was there such a person as
>Jason Waddell in the Tour? I never heard his name mentioned in the
>television coverage and had not heard his name or his team name before
>seeing it on the racing newsgroup
>
>Clarke
>Clarke and Leslie Stanley
>San Luis Obispo, CA

Jason Waddell was touted as one of the contenders for the points
jersey before the TdF started, but as usual, he failed to come up with
the goods.

I hope, for his sake, that he comes up with some results before the
end of the season or he may be without a contract next year.

This was a successful tour for Americans like Armstrong and
Leipheimer, but other Americans like Vaughters, Livingston and Waddell
failed to live up to the hype.


Henry
rbr TdF analyst

ronde champ

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"Spongebob" <stan...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> Was the posting about Jason Waddell correct? Was there such a person as
> Jason Waddell in the Tour? I never heard his name mentioned in the
> television coverage and had not heard his name or his team name before
> seeing it on the racing newsgroup

That's funny.

Thanks,
Ronde Champ


Ken Papai

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"Henry Chang" <lhchang.t...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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All good points Henry.
Jason is talented as hell. When he gives up
truck driving then the Giro as well better watch out!

This Tour caused both Vaughters and LivingSTONE to quit racing.
It left Levi renewed and Lance ready to seek a 5th (and a 6th in '04).
One thing we do know is Bacon Waddell is not a quitter! Go JASON!
Cheers...........

>
>
> Henry
> rbr TdF analyst


Ronde Champs Mom

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Jul 30, 2002, 3:03:44 PM7/30/02
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Didn't I tell you to go clean your room?!?!

Ronde Champs Mom

Jennifer Owlsey

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Jul 30, 2002, 3:10:14 PM7/30/02
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Hi Mom,

Are you hot... or a swinger?

xxx,

Jen

Jason Waddell

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>Subject: Re: Waddell Final Tour GC
>From: "ronde champ" ronde...@yahoo.com
>Date: 7/30/02 1:36 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <ai6mju$heu$1...@nntp-m01.news.aol.com>


I thought so too.


jason

ronde champ

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My mom is very hot.  Would you like to swing with the two of us?
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Bob Schwartz

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Henry Chang wrote:
> Jason Waddell was touted as one of the contenders for the points
> jersey before the TdF started, but as usual, he failed to come up with
> the goods.

> I hope, for his sake, that he comes up with some results before the
> end of the season or he may be without a contract next year.

> This was a successful tour for Americans like Armstrong and
> Leipheimer, but other Americans like Vaughters, Livingston and Waddell
> failed to live up to the hype.

The potential is there, you could see it on the lower slopes
of the Ventoux. He was glued to Lance's wheel, Lance turned
and asked if he was ever going to take a pull. Jason told him
he was only interested in points on the stage finish. So Lance
said "Well get dropped then" just before switching on the
afterburners.

This was an emotional as well as physical blow and Waddell
never recovered. It's a shame too, the battle between McEwen and
Zabel would have been a lot more interesting with a third
competitor.

Bob Schwartz
cv...@execpc.com

Mark Shipsides

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Jul 30, 2002, 5:40:46 PM7/30/02
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Bwahahahahahahaaaaa

Where you stood behind me in Paris?


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Bart

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"Jason Waddell" <jjwb...@aol.com12345> schreef in >
> I thought so too.

Isn't this the moment when someone should post a link to your race diary at
homo.com ?

Jim Quinn

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Not to beat on his drum or anything but Waddell did pick up a 4th place in
the 7/25/02 Superweek Crit in Sjeboygan WI. Not a bad feat when the field
was easily 150 strong with some of the best cyclists in the country
represented.


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Jason Waddell

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Jul 30, 2002, 11:33:39 PM7/30/02
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>Subject: Re: Waddell Final Tour GC
>From: "Jim Quinn" jqu...@houston.rr.com
>Date: 7/30/02 9:02 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <yyH19.20503$Yd.8...@twister.austin.rr.com>

>
>Not to beat on his drum or anything but Waddell did pick up a 4th place in
>the 7/25/02 Superweek Crit in Sjeboygan WI. Not a bad feat when the field
>was easily 150 strong with some of the best cyclists in the country
>represented.

damn Belgians kept me off the podium that night.

jason

Aarroonn Ccaanniinnoo

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Spongebob

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I was pulled in by this posting, but here is information from the
InfoCiclismo mailing list:

>I think someone wanted to be funny and modified the results, because I've
>never heard of such an American rider and the real 31st place overall was
>this one:
>31 025 JAKSCHE Jorg GER ONE à 56' 05"

Clarke
Clarke and Leslie Stanley
San Luis Obispo, CA

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Henry Chang

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On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:06:49 -0700, "Spongebob"
<stan...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>I was pulled in by this posting, but here is information from the
>InfoCiclismo mailing list:
>
>>I think someone wanted to be funny and modified the results, because I've
>>never heard of such an American rider and the real 31st place overall was
>>this one:
>>31 025 JAKSCHE Jorg GER ONE à 56' 05"
>
>Clarke
>Clarke and Leslie Stanley
>San Luis Obispo, CA


Hey Clarke -

you are one sharp cookie.

Henry
DS, Team Waddle

Dave Hansen

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"Spongebob" <stan...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:ai9d5m$gkf$1...@slb1.atl.mindspring.net...


> I was pulled in by this posting, but here is information from the
> InfoCiclismo mailing list:
>
> >I think someone wanted to be funny and modified the results, because I've
> >never heard of such an American rider and the real 31st place overall was
> >this one:
> >31 025 JAKSCHE Jorg GER ONE à 56' 05"
>
> Clarke
> Clarke and Leslie Stanley
> San Luis Obispo, CA


Can't get anything by you huh?
Dave

Bob Schwartz

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Jul 31, 2002, 4:30:02 PM7/31/02
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Spongebob <stan...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> I was pulled in by this posting, but here is information from the
> InfoCiclismo mailing list:

>>I think someone wanted to be funny and modified the results, because I've
>>never heard of such an American rider and the real 31st place overall was
>>this one:
>>31 025 JAKSCHE Jorg GER ONE à 56' 05"

Are you sure? I've never heard of Jorg Jaksche. I had Wadddell tabbed
as a favorite for a jersey at the US Crit championships before I
heard about his Tour debacle.

Bob Schwartz
cv...@execpc.com

Bart

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Jul 31, 2002, 5:56:08 PM7/31/02
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"Spongebob" <stan...@ix.netcom.com> schreef in bericht
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> I was pulled in by this posting, but here is information from the
> InfoCiclismo mailing list:
>
> >I think someone wanted to be funny and modified the results, because I've
> >never heard of such an American rider and the real 31st place overall was
> >this one:
> >31 025 JAKSCHE Jorg GER ONE à 56' 05"

Yeah guys it was a joke. Jason didn't do the Tour, as he's a world class
crosser. Watch for him in the Euro results from November on, making Top 10
now and then.


Henry Chang

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Jul 31, 2002, 5:59:52 PM7/31/02
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On 31 Jul 2002 20:30:02 GMT, Bob Schwartz <cv...@shell.core.com> wrote:

>Spongebob <stan...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> I was pulled in by this posting, but here is information from the
>> InfoCiclismo mailing list:
>
>>>I think someone wanted to be funny and modified the results, because I've
>>>never heard of such an American rider and the real 31st place overall was
>>>this one:
>>>31 025 JAKSCHE Jorg GER ONE à 56' 05"
>
>Are you sure? I've never heard of Jorg Jaksche.

I agree - what sort of name is "Jaksche"? Sounds like something
Beavis & Butthead or ronde_champ made up.

I'm still disappointed that Waddle rode so poorly in the Tour. He's
UCI ranked higher than Marco Pantani and still can't do better than
31st.

Henry

Jason Waddell

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>Subject: Re: Waddell Final Tour GC (Actual 31st place)
>From: "Bart" bart.vanh...@NOTRASHpandora.be
>Date: 7/31/02 4:56 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <Y1Z19.38505$8o4....@afrodite.telenet-ops.be>


thanks for remembering Bart. As you know my cyclocross racing exploits are not
well known in the US. If would be nice if i could get some mention for all my
hard work. At least you keep everyone informed for me.

Infociclismo actually had it wrong. I finished the tour in 81st place, not
31st.
must have been a typo...

thanks,
jason

warren

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Jul 31, 2002, 7:46:53 PM7/31/02
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In article <3d485d76....@news1.news.adelphia.net>, Henry Chang

<lhchang.t...@adelphia.net> wrote:

> I'm still disappointed that Waddle rode so poorly in the Tour. He's
> UCI ranked higher than Marco Pantani and still can't do better than
> 31st.

He said it was because Edita missed her appointment.

Henry Chang

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A good dealer should always have her pager on. She either forgot her
pager or Waddle was a dumbass and forgot the number.

Henry

Dave Hansen

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"Jason Waddell" <jjwb...@aol.com12345> wrote in message
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>
> Infociclismo actually had it wrong. I finished the tour in 81st place, not
> 31st.
> must have been a typo...
>
> thanks,
> jason

Hey look dammitt I was just reporting the results as they were passed to me. Damn French Champagne
drinking scorekeepers
Dave


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