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There *is* a race going on... (TdS)

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Mike Jacoubowsky

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Jun 14, 2011, 12:17:51 AM6/14/11
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OK, we had one of the most-incredible climbs & descents ever (the Grosse
Scheidegg) and at the very least puzzling performance(?) by the only
person many think could challenge AC at the TdF, and nobody here cares?
Did I miss the charter requirement that every post has to somehow be
relevant to a discussion of Lance Armstrong?

If we remove from RBR all posts from either BL, his proxies, and anyone
he might consider a Lance Fanboy, this place gets pretty thin.

NOBODY watched today's stage and thought WOW, I would love to go ride
that? Or, what sort of nutcase (oh crap, I was trying to keep this
LA-free) designs a finish like that? Or how did Paul & Bob Roll screw up
on who crashed (not Sagan)? Or how can Andy hope to win the TdF if he
doesn't feel comfortable descending with the best, preferring to sit off
the back a bit on the descents?

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

Fred Flintstein

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Jun 14, 2011, 9:22:39 AM6/14/11
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On 6/13/2011 11:17 PM, Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> OK, we had one of the most-incredible climbs& descents ever (the Grosse

> Scheidegg) and at the very least puzzling performance(?) by the only
> person many think could challenge AC at the TdF, and nobody here cares?
> Did I miss the charter requirement that every post has to somehow be
> relevant to a discussion of Lance Armstrong?
>
> If we remove from RBR all posts from either BL, his proxies, and anyone
> he might consider a Lance Fanboy, this place gets pretty thin.
>
> NOBODY watched today's stage and thought WOW, I would love to go ride
> that? Or, what sort of nutcase (oh crap, I was trying to keep this
> LA-free) designs a finish like that? Or how did Paul& Bob Roll screw up

> on who crashed (not Sagan)? Or how can Andy hope to win the TdF if he
> doesn't feel comfortable descending with the best, preferring to sit off
> the back a bit on the descents?
>
> --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
> www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
>

I will occasionally stream stuff live during the day. We don't have
cable, but the TV is almost never on at home. And I like it that way.

The Dauphine and the TdS are great races with long histories. But they
are both training events for the race of which There Is Only One You
Know.

As for the other traffic on rbr, the posters that are super motivated
and possibly doping to assist their performance are the ones that have
LANCE OCD. I am resigned to that.

F

Brad Anders

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Jun 14, 2011, 9:31:40 AM6/14/11
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FWIW, I watched the stage. That was probably the best descent I've
seen covered in years. Paul and Bob are utterly clueless these days,
constantly screwing up and saying stuff that simply isn't true -
nothing new there.

I'm always amazed at how non-aggressive many of the main contenders
are, following in wheels the entire way on a climb, or attacking so
late that it makes little to no difference. Great to see somebody
actually do something aggressive on a climb.

Anton Berlin

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Jun 14, 2011, 12:06:05 PM6/14/11
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I watched and it was AMAZING. Today was ultra boring in comparison.

Brad the english announcers on steephill are decent.

GF was surprised the motorcycles had trouble keeping up and getting
out of the way.

--D-y

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Jun 14, 2011, 2:19:49 PM6/14/11
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On Jun 13, 11:17 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
wrote:

No I would not love to go ride that, at least not when I have to keep
up with anyone else.
Check with me say, 35 or 40 years ago.
Paul and Bob didn't catch that the "crash" sequence was a cut to a
different moto camera. The fact that Sagan and Ten Dam's blue pants
are similar, with white lettering, didn't help. I have a friend with
hi-def (soon for me I hope) who figured it out pretty quick.

I don't know how Andy can hope to win the TdF if the competition is
healthy and remains at relative full ability for the whole race. No
fangs.
Both of those Schleck boys are just too nice for the top step at the
Tour-- far, far too low on the Armstrong Index and if you don't
believe me, the photos of poor Tyler Hamilton lying battered and
unconscious in the Aspen Valley Hospital ICU are forthcoming as soon
as Lafferty can get them posted.
So I am on both topics, I hope?
--D-y

RicodJour

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Jun 14, 2011, 9:50:39 PM6/14/11
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On Jun 14, 12:17 am, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
wrote:

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> OK, we had one of the most-incredible climbs & descents ever (the Grosse
> Scheidegg) and at the very least puzzling performance(?) by the only
> person many think could challenge AC at the TdF, and nobody here cares?

Horner's at the TdSuisse? ;) The TdS is just plain eye candy. It
could be one of those TV programs where they just shoot aerial video
and either play music or have some droning background voice and I'd
still watch it. I've never ridden in Switzerland (and assume that you
have), and I'd like to do so in the next year or two at the most.
It's a small country so I guess I'll be able to see most of it in a
couple of days, right?

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birdbrain

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Jun 15, 2011, 4:22:02 AM6/15/11
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You can ride through it 2 days if you're a climber.

birdbrain

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Jun 15, 2011, 4:20:43 AM6/15/11
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Simply Fred

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Jun 15, 2011, 5:01:18 AM6/15/11
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RicodJour wrote:
>> I've never ridden in Switzerland (and assume that you
>> have), and I'd like to do so in the next year or two at the most.

birdbrain wrote:
> You can ride through it 2 days if you're a climber.

Only if you're clean.

RicodJour

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Jun 15, 2011, 9:26:41 AM6/15/11
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On Jun 15, 4:20 am, birdbrain <zzfrank...@mac.com> wrote:
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TfpprrRycc

What a road! Thanks for posting that.

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Vagina Gorilla

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Jun 15, 2011, 11:10:11 AM6/15/11
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I'd feel a lot better if Jobst was in that video.

Fredmaster of Brainerd

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Jun 16, 2011, 5:01:11 AM6/16/11
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On Wednesday, June 15, 2011 1:22:02 AM UTC-7, birdbrain wrote:

Be careful, as that area can be quite
dangerous for climbers:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072926/

Thanks for the youtube link for stage 3.

Fredmaster Ben

ilan

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Jun 16, 2011, 5:35:02 AM6/16/11
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On Jun 14, 6:17 am, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
wrote:

Actually, I want to ride up the Kleine Scheidegg, because it's smaller
and that's where there are the telescopes to watch the climbers on the
Eiger North Face.

-ilan

RicodJour

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Jun 16, 2011, 10:15:30 AM6/16/11
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On Jun 16, 5:35 am, ilan <ilan...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Actually, I want to ride up the Kleine Scheidegg, because it's smaller

That reads like a Google Translation of German porn movie dialogue.

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ilan

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Jun 16, 2011, 11:41:04 AM6/16/11
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On Jun 14, 6:17 am, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
wrote:

After watching the racing, I'm slightly revising my opinion of the
chaotic riding style I've seen on Swiss rides -- it appears that the
local terrain encourages it, as seen in the Tour de Suisse chaotic
finishes.

Since I can't climb at all, I'm going to find Urs Freuler's training
routes http://www.ursfreuler.ch/site/index.php?id=21

-ilan

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