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Stevie

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Jun 21, 2002, 1:00:39 AM6/21/02
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Anyone have any suggestions on brands/models? I've been riding with a pair
of "Rocket Power Parts - Scary Fast" full-finger gloves for about 7 years.
They have a thin leather palm with a nice nose wiper on the back. They are
getting old and frayed and new ones like these are no longer available. I
love 'em and although they were intended for and used by me as mountain bike
gloves, they have turned out to be superb road gloves.

I have tried the fingerless, padded Pearl Isumi Pittards gloves and my hands
fell asleep. My searches for gloves only turn up ones with padded palms.
To me, bare-handed is more comfortable than gloves with palm pads but I like
the pad on the back.

Any suggestions?
--
Steve
(Reply address has been changed to protect the innocent)

Doug Kennedy

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Jun 21, 2002, 12:20:39 PM6/21/02
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On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:00:39 -0500, Stevie wrote:

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> Any suggestions?

Hind-sight is always 20-20, but next time be sure to 'stock-up' if you
find a glove you really like. I've made the same mistake (twice). I like
gloves without velcro fasteners. Pearl Izumi made some which were
discontinued when I looked for a second pair. Then, Cannondale offered
some which I tried and liked; I couldn't find more to buy just a couple
months later. I'm hoping something similar comes on the market before my
last pair wears out.

Doug Kennedy


Matt Wheeler

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Jun 21, 2002, 1:14:31 PM6/21/02
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"Doug Kennedy" <ne...@kennedy.tzo.com> wrote in message
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FWIW, GT sold a pair like that (lycra back, no velcro). You may find some
on closeout somewhere.

--
Matt Wheeler


Allan Leedy

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Jun 21, 2002, 8:30:45 PM6/21/02
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Exte-Ondo makes unpadded gloves that I like; also, if you can find them,
team gloves often have no padding.

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BillChin

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Jun 21, 2002, 10:26:23 PM6/21/02
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For non-padded gloves you might try looking at gloves designed for
other activities, such as batting gloves or golf gloves or driving
gloves. I am shopping for new gloves and all the bike gloves that I
see have padded palms.

Pete

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Jun 21, 2002, 11:27:11 PM6/21/02
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"BillChin" <Wch...@hotmail.com> wrote

> > Any suggestions?
>
> For non-padded gloves you might try looking at gloves designed for
> other activities, such as batting gloves or golf gloves or driving
> gloves. I am shopping for new gloves and all the bike gloves that I
> see have padded palms.

Military pilots gloves. Available at a surplus store. ~$30

VERY comfortable, very sensitive. Leather palm/fingers, NOMEX for the rest.
They're long up the wrist, so either roll up, or cut off and hem as needed.

http://www.flightsuits.com/equip_gloves_usaf.html
http://www.uswings.com/gloves.html

Pete
no, i don't sell em, I just like em.


jobst....@stanfordalumni.org

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Jun 22, 2002, 6:01:59 PM6/22/02
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Bill Chin writes:

> For non-padded gloves you might try looking at gloves designed for
> other activities, such as batting gloves or golf gloves or driving
> gloves. I am shopping for new gloves and all the bike gloves that I
> see have padded palms.

For me that's not the worst part of bicycle glove design but rather
the lack of leather there where it is needed. A good bicycle glove
should be leather faced (or equivalent materia) and have a saddle the
covers the crotch between thumb and forefinger. This is a pressure
and chafing point that most gloves not only overlook but they have a
seam there that is uncomfortable when climbing (standing) with hands
on the brake lever body.

From the gloves I see offered, it appears their designers don't ride
bike.

Jobst Brandt <jobst....@stanfordalumni.org> Palo Alto CA

Stevie

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Jun 22, 2002, 8:23:19 PM6/22/02
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> For me that's not the worst part of bicycle glove design but rather
> the lack of leather there where it is needed. A good bicycle glove
> should be leather faced (or equivalent materia) and have a saddle the
> covers the crotch between thumb and forefinger.

Thanks for the replies. I've emailed Rocket Power Parts and got a quick
response (on a weekend even!) from them. A guy named Matt recommended the
Spyder or Charger, the latter of which is an updated version of what I had.
http://www.rocketparts.com/gloves.html
They have leather palms with a thin layer of leather in critical areas. I'm
torn between the two models but leaning toward the Spyder.

Steve


Dave Brichler

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Jun 23, 2002, 1:17:17 AM6/23/02
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Wch...@hotmail.com (BillChin) wrote in message news:<3af9848e.02062...@posting.google.com>...

> For non-padded gloves you might try looking at gloves designed for
> other activities, such as batting gloves or golf gloves or driving
> gloves. I am shopping for new gloves and all the bike gloves that I
> see have padded palms.

(Sorry if 2 versions of this post, Google is FUBAR tonite).

One of the benefits of road riding is what you 'find' in the gutter
along your way. One of my routes traverses Balcones Country Club
where two years ago I happened along a forgotten lonely pair of Mizuno
black leather golf gloves. Skin tight, perfect 'feel', etc. No
nose-wipe and non-padded but the best riding gloves I ever used.

Alas, my daughter thought she'd do me a favor and wash & dry them in
the machine. Now, they wouldn't fit anyone but "Mini Me", but they
were awesome gloves. Check out http://www.mizuno.com/contents.html.
They also make batting gloves, as do Rawlings, Spalding, Wilson, etc.

Best,
Dave

nboles

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Jun 23, 2002, 12:56:00 PM6/23/02
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>For me that's not the worst part of bicycle glove design but rather
>the lack of leather there where it is needed. A good bicycle glove
>should be leather faced (or equivalent materia) and have a saddle the
>covers the crotch between thumb and forefinger. This is a pressure
>and chafing point that most gloves not only overlook but they have a
>seam there that is uncomfortable when climbing (standing) with hands
>on the brake lever body.
>
>From the gloves I see offered, it appears their designers don't ride
>bike.
>

I have a very comfortable and well thought out pair of gloves by Avenir. Lycra
top, velcro straps, lightly padded palm, extra material between the thumb and
forefinger, AND the all important terry-cloth nose/sweat-wipe material on the
top between the thumb/index finger area and wrist.

I wish I would have bought two at the time. The owner of my LBS recommended
them to me because they are the ones he uses. Its been a few years since I got
them, but if he likes them, he may keep them in stock.
If anyone is interested I'll post the stock number if they are still available.
Nadine

David Damerell

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Jun 27, 2002, 1:33:02 PM6/27/02
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Jobst Brandt:

>For me that's not the worst part of bicycle glove design but rather
>the lack of leather there where it is needed. A good bicycle glove
>should be leather faced (or equivalent materia) and have a saddle the
>covers the crotch between thumb and forefinger.

FWIW, my Altura gloves have padding in that crotch.
--
David Damerell <dame...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> flcl?

jobst....@stanfordalumni.org

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Jun 27, 2002, 2:27:18 PM6/27/02
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David Damerell writes:

>> For me that's not the worst part of bicycle glove design but rather
>> the lack of leather there where it is needed. A good bicycle glove
>> should be leather faced (or equivalent materia) and have a saddle
>> the covers the crotch between thumb and forefinger.

> FWIW, my Altura gloves have padding in that crotch.

They may have padding there but the "leather" saddle must cover back
of the thumb and forefinger to prevent chafing on the brake hood on
long climbs. Besides, all the Altura gloves I could look up were full
fingered "winter" gloves. For that I use deer skin plain dress gloves.

Fabrizio Mazzoleni

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Jun 27, 2002, 5:56:35 PM6/27/02
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<jobst....@stanfordalumni.org> wrote in message news:rt6R8.5759$54.1...@typhoon.sonic.net...

>> For me that's not the worst part of bicycle glove design but rather
> the lack of leather there where it is needed.


I really hope you're joking about the 'leather' part, people wear cycling gloves
that have lycra on one side and very very minimal padding on the palm only
this time of year - what do you think cork ribbon bar tape is for?

I don't know what you're doing wrong when climbing out of the saddle, but
somethings not correct with your style. You must not be feeling pressure like
that, and the chafing thing is just plain wrong, please seek the assistance of a
racing coach. ( and please go buy some real cycling mitts )


David Damerell

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Jun 28, 2002, 11:08:47 AM6/28/02
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<jobst....@stanfordalumni.org> wrote:
>David Damerell writes:

>><jobst....@stanfordalumni.org> wrote:
>>>the lack of leather there where it is needed. A good bicycle glove
>>>should be leather faced (or equivalent materia) and have a saddle
>>>the covers the crotch between thumb and forefinger.
>>FWIW, my Altura gloves have padding in that crotch.
>They may have padding there but the "leather" saddle must cover back
>of the thumb and forefinger to prevent chafing on the brake hood on
>long climbs.

With the glove laid flat on the table in front of me, the material that is
on the palm of the glove extends about half an inch onto the top side of
the thumb and forefinger. Actually, however, I am wrong to say that that is
padded, except inasmuch as that material itself is thicker and softer than
the material over the knuckles; the padding extends only as far as the
seam between the bottom and top of the glove. The extension of the facing
fooled me (and I find that the padding, since it does extend right up to
that seam, is adequate for riding on the hoods.)

>Besides, all the Altura gloves I could look up were full
>fingered "winter" gloves. For that I use deer skin plain dress gloves.

I assure you these exist. :-)

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