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Boot repair: Sole coming loose in front? Boot recommendations ?

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Kelly Ringwald

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Nov 25, 1994, 6:50:53 AM11/25/94
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Well I'm starting to lose another pair of boots again. It always starts the
same, the sole starts to peel off the front. Any recommendations for a good
glue to prolong their life or any techniques ?

I do a lot of off-trail and I wear out boots pretty quick (Couple of years).
I've been wearing full-leather trail boots without the metal inserts
(what do they call them shanks ?) I've been thinking about getting some
heavier duty boots but I've always been scared off by the sole stiffness.

Do they get more comfortable after a while. Where does the sole stiffness
help and hurt. Seems like it would be worse when rockhopping and scrambling.

Regards,

James deJonge

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Nov 29, 1994, 4:20:18 PM11/29/94
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Kelly Ringwald (kel...@primenet.com) wrote:
: Well I'm starting to lose another pair of boots again. It always starts the
: same, the sole starts to peel off the front. Any recommendations for a good
: glue to prolong their life or any techniques ?

Yes! Barge cement. I've frogged around in a pair of $50.00 Hi-Techs for
three years on one dose of the aforementioned panacea. I sometimes wonder
if the stuff *would* actually hold a couple barges together.

Ronald Kolbe

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Nov 30, 1994, 8:14:26 AM11/30/94
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A friend of mine uses SHOE GOO. I have tried it on a couple of shoes.
It appears to be working. He found it at KMart.
--
Ron Kolbe

ko...@fozzie.nrl.navy.mil

Brian Parks

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Nov 30, 1994, 9:41:46 AM11/30/94
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take your boots to a cobbler and have him/her put a few hook nails in the front
of the boot. these will hold the sole in place indefinately (i.e. until you
need to resole. i did it on a pair of my hiking boots, they have stayed put now
and it cost me about five bucks. most adhesives will likely become detached
with time and grime unless applied by manufacturers of cobblers.

bmp

Al Knoll

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Nov 30, 1994, 6:59:22 PM11/30/94
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James deJonge (jdej...@ursa.calvin.edu) wrote:

You figgered it out, they do use that yellow ick to hold barges together.

Actually if the soles are leather, pull the sole off a little way and CLEAN
ALL THE DIRT between the sole and the shoe, apply a thin coat of barge's to
both surfaces and prop 'em apart with a cut down toothpick or matchstick
until the cement is almost not sticky anymore. Then clamp 'em together
solidly for a couple of hours. Use a C clamp or some such, a vise will work.

This will give an excellent bond. To reinforce the bond use 0.25inch brass
screws and secure the sole to the boot. Short enough to not work all the
way through the sole. The screws keep the sole on even if the barge's
should fail. Works for my Civettas.

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David W. Olson

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Nov 30, 1994, 7:30:33 PM11/30/94
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Can anyone give me information on Mt Kaala, on Oahu, Hawaii? Hiking up it,
getting to the top, how long it takes, what it is like?

Thank you very much. email or post.

David W Olson

Christopher McCarthy

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Dec 2, 1994, 4:23:12 PM12/2/94
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Perhaps your boots are defective. In my opinion, boots should not
fall appart before you have worn the soles s down once.

I had a pair of Merrill Wilderness which "Delaminated" Exactly
as you mentioned. I sent them back and got a new pair. s
The second pair also delaminaed. I returnted them for a third
pair and the same thing happend. Finnally I returned the last
pair for a full refund. All in all I got $540 worth of (defective)
boots to use for a 6 month peroid (While I hiked the PCT) at no
net cost to me (except postage)

So, you may be entitled to a refund.

-Chris

Jonathan J. Glover

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Dec 5, 1994, 11:00:21 AM12/5/94
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In article <3bo380$q...@news.csus.edu> Christopher McCarthy,

ch...@mercury.sfsu.edu writes:
>I had a pair of Merrill Wilderness which "Delaminated" Exactly
>as you mentioned. I sent them back and got a new pair. s
>The second pair also delaminaed. I returnted them for a third
>pair and the same thing happend. Finnally I returned the last
>pair for a full refund. All in all I got $540 worth of (defective)

I too had this problem with the Merrel Wilderness. Had to put my feet
through the ordeal of breaking-in two pairs. Not fun. Thanks to REI I
was able to get a refund. I'm now working on a pair of La Sportiva's -
Great boots so far and less expensive than the Merrels! I've heard a lot
about trouble with various Merrel boots. I would stay away from them
IMHO.

James E Yeadon

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Dec 6, 1994, 1:49:35 AM12/6/94
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(Sorry, I forgot to paste in previous posts for ref.)

I too have had problems with Merril Wilderness boots (that makes three of us so
far). In my case, Merrill repaired my delaminated boots (nailed the sole back
in) and sent me a second pair. The repaired boots are still holding up, al-
though they've only seen light duty the last couple of years. The second pair
is still in the box. I sounds like I can expect the soles to delaminate when
I finally get around to breaking them in. (Bummer.)

I bought my boots in 1990, and I was wondering if the other people who had
problems with these boots bought them around the same time, or if this is
a perenial problem with these boots. Is there anybody out there who is happy
with their Merrill Wilderness boots?

- Jim Y.


Kelly Ringwald

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Dec 7, 1994, 5:16:42 AM12/7/94
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In article <3c11hv$9...@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> jeye...@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (James E Yeadon) writes:
>
>I too have had problems with Merril Wilderness boots (that makes three of us so
>far). In my case, Merrill repaired my delaminated boots (nailed the sole back

>I bought my boots in 1990, and I was wondering if the other people who had

>problems with these boots bought them around the same time, or if this is
>a perenial problem with these boots. Is there anybody out there who is happy
>with their Merrill Wilderness boots?

The boots I posted about were Merrill's (I don't remember name, are the
Wilderness the black ones, these were brown full-leather) so I guess that's
four. I loved them because there was no break-in, they were comfortable from
the start. My girlfriend loves hers.

Regards,
Kelly

Will Roper

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Dec 9, 1994, 10:03:48 AM12/9/94
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In article <3bj3kq$6...@hpchase.rose.hp.com> a...@hprpcd.rose.hp.com (Al Knoll) writes:
>James deJonge (jdej...@ursa.calvin.edu) wrote:
>: Kelly Ringwald (kel...@primenet.com) wrote:
>: : Well I'm starting to lose another pair of boots again.
>: : It always starts the
>: : same, the sole starts to peel off the front.
>: : Any recommendations for a good
>: : glue to prolong their life or any techniques ?
>:
>: Yes! Barge cement. I've frogged around in a pair of $50.00 Hi-Techs for
>: three years on one dose of the aforementioned panacea. I sometimes wonder
>: if the stuff *would* actually hold a couple barges together.
>
>You figgered it out, they do use that yellow ick to hold barges together.
>
>Actually if the soles are leather, pull the sole off a little way and CLEAN
>ALL THE DIRT between the sole and the shoe, apply a thin coat of barge's to
>both surfaces and prop 'em apart with a cut down toothpick or matchstick
>until the cement is almost not sticky anymore. Then clamp 'em together
>solidly for a couple of hours. Use a C clamp or some such, a vise will work.
>
>This will give an excellent bond. To reinforce the bond use 0.25inch brass
>screws and secure the sole to the boot. Short enough to not work all the
>way through the sole. The screws keep the sole on even if the barge's
>should fail. Works for my Civettas.
>


Now if someone will only tell us where to get barge cement ... I've sure
never seen it :-)

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