Freeze dried alcohol?? Any way to carry a drink?
David Parker
I am looking for a way to carry a little booze on next trip. I know I can get a flask
but what about some way to condense the volume?
I thought a nice ale on the Alaskan tundra would be nice......
Dptri
Pete Farmer
David Parker (DP...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
: I am looking for a way to carry a little booze on next trip.
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I don't know about ale, but a reasonable way to economize on weight
is to pack PGA, or Everclear. I don't know about it's availability
in Alasaka, but it was sold in Colorado when I was a kid, and
most Western states I think. It's ~98% grain alcohol, so you
won't be drinking it neat, but you can dilute it with spring
water down to whatever strength you like. Once you do this,
it's basically indinguishable from commercial vodka IMO.
Since you're not going to be dehydrating any alcohol, this
might be your best bet. One more thing... you might want to
mark the bottle, so you don't get it confused with your fuel
bottle! ...or worse, your water bottle! One good slug of this
stuff (if you could hold it down) would make you DANGEROUSLY
drunk, which might not be your intention.
Have fun.
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Kathy Myers
In article <4nodkb$9...@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>, David Parker
<DP...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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How 'bout some 151 rum? You can make some pretty
radical hot chocolate with it! We call it: "Koo Koo Cocoa."
Just a thought!
Kath
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Pete Hickey
In article <4nodkb$9...@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
David Parker <DP...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>I am looking for a way to carry a little booze on next trip. I know
> I can get a flask but what about some way to condense the volume?
>
>I thought a nice ale on the Alaskan tundra would be nice......
>
>
Sure, you can get this magic powder. Simply add water, and before
you know it, you'll have alcohol! I swear its true! Hey, I'll even
give you the recipe!
Mix some yeast and sugar. Thats all there is to do to make the
magic powder. Add water, and wait. Presto! You'll have your
alcohol. If you like, you can replace sugar with fruit juice
of other forms of carbohydrates.
-Pete
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RICKY D VAN MATRE
On 20 May 1996, David Parker wrote:
> I am looking for a way to carry a little booze on next trip. I know I can get a flask
> but what about some way to condense the volume?
>
> I thought a nice ale on the Alaskan tundra would be nice......
>
> Dptri
>
>
>
Just a hint on a flask. Coleman sells a nice one. Got one at K-Mart, of
all places. Maybe you could carry GOlden Seal alcohol and boost something
in another flask.km
Steven R. Eckert
>In article <4nodkb$9...@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
>David Parker <DP...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>I am looking for a way to carry a little booze on next trip. I know
>> I can get a flask but what about some way to condense the volume?
That process is called D-I-S-T-I-L-L-A-T-I-O-N. Buy some 151 rum,
and thin it with powered fruit drinks. Umbrella optional.
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Faerie 1
Two questions....
Anyone ever notice that alcohol doesn't freeze? Maybe put vodka in the
freezer for a year or windshield wiper fluid in your car?
Anyone ever hear of fermentation? Yes, you can just add water to yeast
and sugar and sit and wait, but I hope your not in a hurry to drink this
supposed "instant alcohol.
Maybe you should get a small engine plane to air drop something to you or
the Budweiser frogs to act as your pack animals?
- Bill
Matt Wilder
David Parker (DP...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
: I am looking for a way to carry a little booze on next trip. I know I can get a flask
: but what about some way to condense the volume?
: I thought a nice ale on the Alaskan tundra would be nice......
: Dptri
believe it or not, REI used to have freeze dried beer. It came in a little
packet like kool aid or something like that. It was ok.. there was no
alcohol in it though. you had to add vodka to have it alcoholic. I tried
it two years ago and it was not that great (as you can well imagine). The
worst part was that it wasn't very carbonated. It had a little bit of a
head, but just WASN'T the same. REI doesn't carry it anymore, and I haven't
seen it anywhere else.
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GeoBear
> Subject: Re: Freeze dried alcohol?? Any way to carry a drink?
>From: fae...@aol.com (Faerie 1)
>Date: 22 May 1996 01:59:48 -0400
>Message-ID: <4nuagk$8...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
>Two questions....
>Anyone ever notice that alcohol doesn't freeze? Maybe put vodka in the
>freezer for a year or windshield wiper fluid in your car?
A few years ago a man in Fairbanks drank from a bottle of vodka in his
car (it was about -60 F). It froze his lungs, etc., and he died.
Elliot Richmond
In article <4nvbur$1...@drivel.ics.uci.edu>, mwi...@commodus.ics.uci.edu
(Matt Wilder) wrote:
> believe it or not, REI used to have freeze dried beer. It came in a little
> packet like kool aid or something like that. It was ok.. there was no
The last time this thread came up, some poster suggested Metamucil and
Everclear as a substitute for freeze dried beer. Said it tasted better,
tasted more like beer, and was better for you!
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Faerie 1 (fae...@aol.com) wrote:
: Two questions....
: Anyone ever notice that alcohol doesn't freeze? Maybe put vodka in the
: freezer for a year or windshield wiper fluid in your car?
: Anyone ever hear of fermentation? Yes, you can just add water to yeast
: and sugar and sit and wait, but I hope your not in a hurry to drink this
: supposed "instant alcohol.
: Maybe you should get a small engine plane to air drop something to you or
: the Budweiser frogs to act as your pack animals?
: - Bill
yea that fermentation thing takes a while. I brew beer and it usually
takes a month. I just pack in a 1/2 pint of Jack Daniels for uh medicinal
reasons. Whiskey and branch is a nice relaxing drink and the best branch
water comes from those nice cool mountian streams.--
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My favorite cough medicine is a mixable like PGA, vodka or gin. Add spring
water and flavor powder (I used pineapple-orange Kool-Aid on my last
trip). Bingo! Gin and juice. To make it go down smooth, freeze one of your
water bottles.
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Joseph Raquepas
>A few years ago a man in Fairbanks drank from a bottle of vodka
> in his car (it was about -60 F). It froze his lungs, etc., and
> he died.
Oh, bullshit!
Joe
Bob Haynes
In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.960521100404.5822C-100000@verdi>,
RICKY D VAN MATRE <rvan...@nmsu.edu> wrote:
>On 20 May 1996, David Parker wrote:
>
>> I am looking for a way to carry a little booze on next trip. I know I can get a flask
>> but what about some way to condense the volume?
Carry Everclear (or an equivilant). At 190 proof (95% alcohol) it's about
as condensed as you're going to get. I've carried it before and used it
in a coffee/hot choc. mix for a boost after getting hiked in and camp
made. You can also use it as a foot bath, disinfectant, fire enhancer.
Just kidding on that last one. 8^)
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Bill Blair
In article <elliot-2205...@slip-87-8.ots.utexas.edu> ell...@mail.utexas.edu (Elliot Richmond) writes:
>From: ell...@mail.utexas.edu (Elliot Richmond)
>Subject: Re: Freeze dried alcohol?? Any way to carry a drink?
>In article <4nvbur$1...@drivel.ics.uci.edu>, mwi...@commodus.ics.uci.edu
>(Matt Wilder) wrote:
>> believe it or not, REI used to have freeze dried beer. It came in a little
>> packet like kool aid or something like that. It was ok.. there was no
>The last time this thread came up, some poster suggested Metamucil and
>Everclear as a substitute for freeze dried beer. Said it tasted better,
>tasted more like beer, and was better for you!
clearly we're talking about American beer :-)
Steven R. Eckert
imsg...@math.montana.edu (Joseph Raquepas) writes:
>Oh, bullshit!
>Joe
Well, maybe. I don't see how it would freeze your lungs. But I do`
remember a news article from when I lived in Anchorage - several
snowmobilers chugged vodka in -40F temps and got frostbite in their
throats. Not fatal because they were able to get out quickly, but
the swelling could have suffocated them.
Donald R. Newcomb
In article <4nodkb$9...@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
David Parker <DP...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>I am looking for a way to carry a little booze on next trip. I know I can get a flask
>but what about some way to condense the volume?
Well, you can dehydrate booze. Since most "spirits" are only about 40%-50%
alcohol, the rest being water and flavoring, you can take the "active" part
in the form of grain alcohol at about 95%. It will be hard to get a good
ale flavor by adding various things to a water+alcohol mixture, but
you can make a decent mixed drink (e.g. screwdriver) from the very hard
stuff, water and juice mix.
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Anand R. Mani
In article <4o81mo$1r...@whale.st.usm.edu> Donald R. Newcomb,
I recall that a Japanese company was experimenting with powdered
alcoholic drinks for the coin-op business. I was led to understand that
they had succeeded in creating a powdered scotch that was quite good.
Anand
Matt Henry
>A few years ago a man in Fairbanks drank from a bottle of vodka in his
>car (it was about -60 F). It froze his lungs, etc., and he died.
from a bottle of Stolichnaya from the freezer, or from the nearest snow
bank if the temperature drops below zero. I'll have to keep this in mind
fro the future.
Timo Noko
pe...@mudhead.uottawa.ca (Pete Hickey) writes:
>In article <4nodkb$9...@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
>David Parker <DP...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>I am looking for a way to carry a little booze on next trip. I know
>> I can get a flask but what about some way to condense the volume?
>>
>>I thought a nice ale on the Alaskan tundra would be nice......
>>
>>
>Sure, you can get this magic powder. Simply add water, and before
>you know it, you'll have alcohol! I swear its true! Hey, I'll even
>give you the recipe!
>Mix some yeast and sugar. Thats all there is to do to make the
>magic powder. Add water, and wait. Presto! You'll have your
>alcohol. If you like, you can replace sugar with fruit juice
>of other forms of carbohydrates.
And you dont actually need yeast. I have heard rumours that
human fecal matter is equally good to start fermentation.
Summa summarum - all you need is an empty airtight can to
make your own backcountry beer.
/noko
Pete Hickey
In article <4o8uou$9...@cantina.clinet.fi>, Timo Noko <no...@clinet.fi> wrote:
:pe...@mudhead.uottawa.ca (Pete Hickey) writes:
:
:>In article <4nodkb$9...@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
:>David Parker <DP...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
:>>I am looking for a way to carry a little booze on next trip. I know
:>> I can get a flask but what about some way to condense the volume?
:
:>Sure, you can get this magic powder. Simply add water, and before
:>you know it, you'll have alcohol! I swear its true! Hey, I'll even
:>give you the recipe!
:
:>Mix some yeast and sugar. Thats all there is to do to make the
:>magic powder. Add water, and wait. Presto! You'll have your
:>alcohol. If you like, you can replace sugar with fruit juice
:>of other forms of carbohydrates.
:
:And you dont actually need yeast. I have heard rumours that
:human fecal matter is equally good to start fermentation.
Finally!!! We've come full circle. We *should* be
drinking drieclty from the stream.
Robert Keller
We actually brewed our beer on the river in the Grand Canyon!
I used 5 gallon Cornealius Kegs (soda pop kegs) to brew in. We
simply attached a one-way valve on the kegs while they were brewing
to allow them to breath. Our 22 foot snout boat provided adequate
shaking to hurry the fermentation process to about 4 or 5 days (the
trip was 18 days long). After 5 days (we took 6 finished kegs to
start the trip) we could pressure filter through an in-line filter
to get the yeast off (this is what generally takes time when homebrewing,
as you have to wait for the yeast to settle out) pushing with CO2
pressure. We then would place a keg in the river overnight off the
side of the boat and let the waves and high CO2 pressure carbonate
the batch. This allowed us 5 gallons of brew per day as we rotated the
kegs through.
We used dried barley malt extract that was already hopped (beer-in-a-bag).
All we had to do each day was boil 3 gallons of water, disolve the bag of
ingredients, add to the empty keg and top it off with cold water to cool
the batch and pitch the yeast in the AM.
It worked like a charm until it got too hot though. Seems that too high
a temperature really buggars up the yeast (tastes really bad). So, keep
your batch between 60 and 75 degrees F.
Anyway, it was an experiment that payed off for us in the Canyon!
I'm not sure I would do it again though, as it did not ALWAYS work
and we may have had TOO MUCH beer available.
Later,
Robb
Al Gerheim
Timo Noko wrote:
>
> pe...@mudhead.uottawa.ca (Pete Hickey) writes:
>
> >In article <4nodkb$9...@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> >David Parker <DP...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >>I am looking for a way to carry a little booze on next trip. I know
> >> I can get a flask but what about some way to condense the volume?
> >>
I remember reading about powdered alchy a while back. The
liquid was encapsulated in soluble pellets. I don't remember
what happened to the concept. The other way is to condense
the "quality" you wish to enjoy. This means either Everclear,
151 Rum, or the most expensive Cognac you can find.
-. Al Gerheim