Beer with the highest alcohol content?
nic...@hotmail.com
take with me the least amount as possible to do the job, so to speak.
So, any idea which beer has the most bang for the weight?
Ullrich
If I want a malt beverage with good bang/weight ratio, I go for scotch,
but on to your question:
Some ultra strong beers (10+ % ABV) :
Sam Adam Triple Bock: Vile stuff
Samiclaus
EKU 28
Bigfoot Barleywine
Phil
H. Paul Jacobson
> Some ultra strong beers (10+ % ABV) :
>
> Sam Adam Triple Bock: Vile stuff
> Samiclaus
> EKU 28
> Bigfoot Barleywine
What kind of 'bang' do you want? Barleywines are usually heavily hopped.
Unless you really like the bitterness of hops it would be easier to get
soused with a 'lite' bear than one of these strong beers. Also these
strong beers usually only come in bottles, adding the weight of the glass.
On the plus side, these strong beers don't need to be chilled. Still, as
a alternative to sipping a glass of sherry around the campfire, a little
bottle of 'Old Curmudgeon Barleywine' would be hard to beat.
Paul
Jerry L. Golden
>Thinking about packing in some beer but because of the weight I want to
>take with me the least amount as possible to do the job, so to speak.
>So, any idea which beer has the most bang for the weight?
Beer ? Freeze-dried beer ?
It would taste good every now and then but I'll stick to my 151 &
tang.
JLG
Luke Miller
Paul Weiss
<Pine.A41.3.95.990508...@green.weeg.uiowa.edu>, Ullrich
<pull...@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> wrote:
> On Sat, 8 May 1999 nic...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Thinking about packing in some beer but because of the weight I want to
> > take with me the least amount as possible to do the job, so to speak.
> > So, any idea which beer has the most bang for the weight?
>
> If I want a malt beverage with good bang/weight ratio, I go for scotch,
> but on to your question:
>
> Some ultra strong beers (10+ % ABV) :
>
> Sam Adam Triple Bock: Vile stuff
> Samiclaus
> EKU 28
> Bigfoot Barleywine
I could add in one of my favourites ... McEwan's Scotch Ale!
--
Cheers,
Paul Weiss
E-mail: cpw...@netaccess.on.ca
Personal Home Page: http://www.netaccess.on.ca/~cpweiss/
Quote: "To you, it's a six-pack ... to me, it's a support group!"
"Don't take life too seriously ... nobody gets out alive!"
Jerry L. Golden
>a bottle of 200 proof and 1 Bud lite go a long way.
Ahh. Everclear.
Good general porpoise stuff : kills pain, starts the fire, runs the
stove in a pinch, good solvent for stickers, kills worms.
If you're going to take alcohol you might as well carry the
most concentrated form and mix it. Course it's nice to be able to get
it down too...
JLG
Chie
> Thinking about packing in some beer but because of the weight I want to
> take with me the least amount as possible to do the job, so to speak.
> So, any idea which beer has the most bang for the weight?
Carlsburg's Elephant Malt Liquor is pretty potent.
--Chie
Del Stanley
If you are going to places like Utah for example, you'd better
get your supply out of state. Some states may not allow the
sell of some of the beers that carry the higher alcohol content.
2 or 3% may the upper limit on beers. If out of the U.S. you
may not have this problem however.
Paul Weiss
Puts me in mind of a Canadian's favourite jibe at American beer!
Why is American beer like making love in a canoe?
'Cause it's fuckin' near water!! ;-)
robert taylor
Robert "Fubar" Slusser
"Skip and go naked"
1 beer
1 oz. gin (or more as the night goes on)
1 oz. lime juice or the juice from 1/2 of a lime
very simple, very effective
Del Stanley
>
> >
> > In article <37347D...@hotmail.com>, nic...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > Thinking about packing in some beer but because of the weight I want to
> > > take with me the least amount as possible to do the job, so to speak.
> > > So, any idea which beer has the most bang for the weight?
One other thing you may want to consider. I will defer to the
experts, but merely point this out. I believe the effects of
alcohol on the body tends to be one of dehydration. If the
relationship is direct; meaning more alcohol increases the
tendancy towards dehydration you will have defeated your
purpose of taking more of the potent stuff (saving weight).
To offset the effect of any dehydration means more water, which means
carrying more weight. Thus you may not be any better off weight
wise by taking beer with a higher alcohol content versus one with
less and more water by volume.
Again, I'm no expert on this so don't get "pissed off". The effect
at a 10% alcohol level may not be appreciative different than at
a 5% level. I don't know. At least check it out, or perhaps someone
here can comment on the subject. Especially if you are doing this in
the summer. Going "light" can mean different things.
James Klaus
Michael Walsh
of Samiclaus has been brewed, and won't be brewed again.
The company explained their decision away with some marketing
yammer, and despite a sizable number of protests from their
customers, they don't plan to reintroduce. I heard a rumor
that the last batch was being shipped out, more or less to the
highest bidders.
Sound vague? Yep, sorry. I don't care for most beers over about
4.5%, so I don't pay that much attention to the high proof flavour.
Try seaching the brewWorld web site - I think they broke the story.
cheers,
mike
Ullrich wrote:
>
> On Sat, 8 May 1999 nic...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Thinking about packing in some beer but because of the weight I want to
> > take with me the least amount as possible to do the job, so to speak.
> > So, any idea which beer has the most bang for the weight?
>
> If I want a malt beverage with good bang/weight ratio, I go for scotch,
> but on to your question:
>
> Some ultra strong beers (10+ % ABV) :
>
> Sam Adam Triple Bock: Vile stuff
> Samiclaus
> EKU 28
> Bigfoot Barleywine
>
> Phil
Peter Clinch
> I could add in one of my favourites ... McEwan's Scotch Ale!
Not anywhere close to the 10% ABV from the list you were responding to,
however, though I'd put flavour over power anytime. If you really like
a pint of "Heavy", see if you can find Wm. Younger's No. 3 or Orkney
Dark. Gillespie's Oat Malt Stout is good too. No idea if they're
exported, but if you get McEwan's, every chance, I'd have thought.
Another interesting (and v. nice) Scottish beer is Fraoich (which I've
almost certainly spelt wrong!), which is made from (so they say) a
traditional Pictish recipe using heather (it's aka Heather Ale).
Overall though, I'd say the English, especially from Yorkshire, are
ahead of the Scots when it comes to beer. I know Sam Smiths export to
the US, 'cause I had a bottle in San Francisco! Also look out for
Theakstons, though they're not what they were.
Pete.
--
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Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Medical Physics, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net p.j.c...@dundee.ac.uk http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
Paul Weiss
<p.j.c...@dundee.ac.uk> wrote:
> Paul Weiss wrote:
>
> > I could add in one of my favourites ... McEwan's Scotch Ale!
>
> Not anywhere close to the 10% ABV from the list you were responding to,
> however, though I'd put flavour over power anytime.
I wonder if we get a different formulation here than you get over there.
It says 10% on the label. BTW, Thanks for the tips on the other "heavy"
beers. I'll be on the lookout for them.
Peter Clinch
> I wonder if we get a different formulation here than you get over there.
> It says 10% on the label. BTW, Thanks for the tips on the other "heavy"
> beers. I'll be on the lookout for them.
Sounds like that's the case. Don't think I've ever seen anything going
as
beer or ale higher than 8 here (including a microbrewery special
wonderfully named "Old Horizontal"!). The typical McEwan's 80 Shilling
and
Exports are around 4.5 - 5 (still plenty strong!). Must check my one
remaining "Jacobite Ale", which is brewed in a microbrewery at
Scotland's
oldest inhabited Great House, Traquair. It certainly melts your heid,
whatever the ABV figure is...
regards, Pete.
Ullrich
> According to what we hear over in the UK, the last
> of Samiclaus has been brewed, and won't be brewed again.
> The company explained their decision away with some marketing
> yammer, and despite a sizable number of protests from their
> customers, they don't plan to reintroduce. I heard a rumor
> that the last batch was being shipped out, more or less to the
> highest bidders.
> Sound vague? Yep, sorry. I don't care for most beers over about
> 4.5%, so I don't pay that much attention to the high proof flavour.
> Try seaching the brewWorld web site - I think they broke the story.
Yeah, I heard that, too. There are still places where one can find
Samiclaus, though, even in the middle of Bumfuck, Iowa. I have mixed
feelings about it, myself, might as well be drinking sherry. Samiclaus
not my first choice for beer, even strong beer. But the original poster
did ask about the strongest beer, so...
Phil
Ullrich
> Take some wort and brew your own while on the trail.
Did you see that blurb in Backpacker and/or Zymurgy about the goofball
that did just what you said on the AT? Sounded heavy.
Phil
Ullrich
> Paul Weiss wrote:
> > I could add in one of my favourites ... McEwan's Scotch Ale!
>
> Not anywhere close to the 10% ABV from the list you were responding to,
> a pint of "Heavy", see if you can find Wm. Younger's No. 3 or Orkney
> Dark. Gillespie's Oat Malt Stout is good too. No idea if they're
> exported, but if you get McEwan's, every chance, I'd have thought.
> Another interesting (and v. nice) Scottish beer is Fraoich (which I've
> almost certainly spelt wrong!), which is made from (so they say) a
> traditional Pictish recipe using heather (it's aka Heather Ale).
I tried that some years ago, thought it was winey, fizzy, on the lighter
side. Interesting stuff.
> Overall though, I'd say the English, especially from Yorkshire, are
> ahead of the Scots when it comes to beer. I know Sam Smiths export to
> the US, 'cause I had a bottle in San Francisco! Also look out for
> Theakstons, though they're not what they were.
I don't know, I've been consistently pleased with the scottish beer that
we get in the states, whereas the English stuff can come across as
more variable, too often stale or bland. Given a choice, I'll reach for a
Caledonian or Belhaven over Sam Smith or even Fuller's, for the most
part.
Phil
Peter Clinch
> I don't know, I've been consistently pleased with the scottish beer that
> we get in the states, whereas the English stuff can come across as
> more variable, too often stale or bland. Given a choice, I'll reach for a
> Caledonian or Belhaven over Sam Smith or even Fuller's, for the most
> part.
Probably a greater range of English stuff (more breweries!), so more
scope for going Horribly Wrong... Belhaven Best over Sam Smiths Brewery
Bitter! Ack! well it's a point of view, I suppose ;-)
Don't know if Black Sheep is exported. It was started up by the
Theakston Family after Theakstons was taken over by Scottish &
Newcastle, and I think is as good as anything else you'll get anywhere.
Wadworths 6X and Ruddles County are also, IMHO, rather more quaffable
than their typical Scots cousins, and reasonably available in cans. In
fact I had a can or 3 of County on an American Airlines flight to JFK,
which suggests it may well be out and about over yon pond.
Just remembered another Scots beer that's very nice, though I haven't
seen it canned or bottled here, and that's Golden Promise, an organic
beer (as in using ingredients grown with no pesticides or herbicides on
land which has had no agrochemical input for a minimum of, I think, 2
years). Yum!
And if you see any Wm Younger's Tartan Special, do yourself a favour and
leave it on the shelf...
Pete.
--
Paul Weiss
<p.j.c...@dundee.ac.uk> wrote:
> Ullrich wrote:
>
> > I don't know, I've been consistently pleased with the scottish beer that
> > we get in the states, whereas the English stuff can come across as
> > more variable, too often stale or bland. Given a choice, I'll reach for a
> > Caledonian or Belhaven over Sam Smith or even Fuller's, for the most
> > part.
>
> Probably a greater range of English stuff (more breweries!), so more
> scope for going Horribly Wrong... Belhaven Best over Sam Smiths Brewery
> Bitter! Ack! well it's a point of view, I suppose ;-)
>
>
> And if you see any Wm Younger's Tartan Special, do yourself a favour and
> leave it on the shelf...
>
What a chuckle! Just as you said, it's a point of view, I suppose! Wm
Younger's Tartan is one of my favourites!!
KCMO_710
weight.
nic...@hotmail.com wrote in message <37347D...@hotmail.com>...
Peter Clinch
> What a chuckle! Just as you said, it's a point of view, I suppose! Wm
> Younger's Tartan is one of my favourites!!
"Ah well, we all make mistakes!", as R2D2 beeped while he climbed off
the trashcan... ;-)
If you like it, all well and good, but quite seriously, for those
looking for a Scottish beer who haven't tried any before, I'd think it's
fair to say that amongst my friends here something like Caledonian 80
Shilling would be considered a better, though no more exotic or
particularly more expensive starting point. Not an infallible
suggestion, obviously, but a straw pole here would generally elicit more
support for the Cally. Or indeed, the good old "Redman", McEwan's
Export, cans of which are of Budweiser-like ubiquity here. "Reliable",
rather than "wonderful".
Galen Hekhuis
>Quote: "To you, it's a six-pack ... to me, it's a support group!"
> "Don't take life too seriously ... nobody gets out alive!"
I know how it feels. I drink a beer, they say I drank a six-pack. I drink a
six-pack, they say I drank a case. I drink a case, they say I'm drunk...
Galen Hekhuis, NpD, JFR, GWA ghek...@datastar.net
There's no point in closing the barn door after the water is under the bridge
Peter Clinch
punch whisky is a much better choice. If you get a cask strength malt
that's between around 50-56% ABV. This will kill your tastebuds
instantly if you drink it neat, but the idea is to dilute it with water
(as is actaully done for standard whiskies at bottling) down to 45% or
below, where it will still pack a powerful punch!
Cask strengths are generally held to be the preferred way of drinking
Scotch by the really serious folk (I only rate as moderatley serious
here), plus as long as good pure water is readily available, you'll save
weight too!
Very Instant Rule of Thumb Scotch guide: Speyside malts are smoother,
Islay malts are peatier and more pungent. Don't actually know anyone
here that really rates the best known pair, Glenlivet and Glenfiddich.
Chuck Worth
double the alcohol of their Pale Ale. Both fine beers.
-Chuck
Ullrich
> Ullrich wrote:
>
> > I don't know, I've been consistently pleased with the scottish beer that
> > we get in the states, whereas the English stuff can come across as
> > more variable, too often stale or bland. Given a choice, I'll reach for a
> > Caledonian or Belhaven over Sam Smith or even Fuller's, for the most
> > part.
>
> Probably a greater range of English stuff (more breweries!), so more
> scope for going Horribly Wrong... Belhaven Best over Sam Smiths Brewery
We get sam smith in clear bottles and thus the beer is most often skunked.
> Don't know if Black Sheep is exported. It was started up by the
> Theakston Family after Theakstons was taken over by Scottish &
> Newcastle, and I think is as good as anything else you'll get anywhere.
> Wadworths 6X and Ruddles County are also, IMHO, rather more quaffable
> than their typical Scots cousins, and reasonably available in cans.
We get Black Sheep and other Theakstons. Didn't think much of the B
Sheep, I recall.
> Just remembered another Scots beer that's very nice, though I haven't
> seen it canned or bottled here, and that's Golden Promise, an organic
> beer (as in using ingredients grown with no pesticides or herbicides on
> land which has had no agrochemical input for a minimum of, I think, 2
> years). Yum!
Me, too, Yum!
Phil
Del Stanley
>
> Puts me in mind of a Canadian's favourite jibe at American beer!
>
> Why is American beer like making love in a canoe?
>
> 'Cause it's fuckin' near water!! ;-)
Yes, a lot of the U.S. brews are pretty weak. Some not. Many
cities have micro-breweries, and don't depend on national brands.
However, in many places you can buy beer from all over the world.
So we are not really lacking in brew selections, except in some
states.
I seem to recall about a decade ago that the Canadian brewers went
on strike. Many Canadian nightclubs had to import "that lousy stuff"
from America. A funny thing happened. Beer drinking among Canadian
WOMEN increased dramtically. I don't know if that was just a blip,
and that brewers took notice of women, and started brewing a lighter
beer. The strike didn't last that long, but for a while the watery
U.S. brews were more popular among Canadian women than the Canadian
brews. This in part led to an early resolution of the strike. According
to the newspapers I read. I love Molson by the way.
Daniel J Rabinowitz
nutrition for backpackers. But I don't know much about alcohol. I do
know that there are only four types of "foods" which provide calories:
fat: 9 cal/gram
alcohol: 7 cal/gram
carbohydrates: 4 cal/gram
protein: 4 cal/gram
Further, I've read some useful facts such as "lower fat intake at high
altitudes, because fat requires lots of precious oxygen to metabolize."
Also, fats and protein provide longer-term energy, while carbs provide
short-term (simple carbs) and intermediate-term (complex carbs) energy.
What I haven't read is how alcohol is metabolized... Is it turned
into sugar? (I think I've heard that from someone) Does it provide
quick or long-term energy? What about at altitude?
When I think about food on a 10+ day trip, I am meticulous about
bringing 40% carbs, 30% protein, and 30% fat (modified according to
altitude and other factors). I'm trying to figure out how to add
alcohol in to that mix, since at 7 calories per gram, it's a pretty
efficient way to carry calories.
Any thoughts?
-dan
Damon Ryan
Andrew Heiz
Paul Weiss wrote:
> In article
> <Pine.A41.3.95.990508...@green.weeg.uiowa.edu>, Ullrich
> <pull...@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 8 May 1999 nic...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > Thinking about packing in some beer but because of the weight I want to
> > > take with me the least amount as possible to do the job, so to speak.
> > > So, any idea which beer has the most bang for the weight?
> >
> > If I want a malt beverage with good bang/weight ratio, I go for scotch,
> > but on to your question:
> >
> > Some ultra strong beers (10+ % ABV) :
> >
> > Sam Adam Triple Bock: Vile stuff
> > Samiclaus
> > EKU 28
> > Bigfoot Barleywine
>
> I could add in one of my favourites ... McEwan's Scotch Ale!
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Paul Weiss
>
>
> Quote: "To you, it's a six-pack ... to me, it's a support group!"
> "Don't take life too seriously ... nobody gets out alive!"
Cheers indeed! McEwans Scotch Ale is one potent Ale. Good choice Paul.
Andy
Abe D. Lockman
> Thinking about packing in some beer but because of the weight I want to
> take with me the least amount as possible to do the job, so to speak.
> So, any idea which beer has the most bang for the weight?
Remy Martin V.S.O.P.
adl
Robb McLeod
Rabinowitz) wrote:
Hmm... shame on me for responding to a troll.
Alcohol is not absorbed into cells, so it does not have any dietary
value. It is metabolized, but only so the body can flush it out
through your kidneys as quickly as possible. You can only metabolize
about ~~ 400 Cal per day anyway.
--
A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops.
On my desk I have a work station...
Paul Weiss
<is...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Paul Weiss wrote:
>
> > I could add in one of my favourites ... McEwan's Scotch Ale!
> >
>
> Cheers indeed! McEwans Scotch Ale is one potent Ale. Good choice Paul.
>
Isn't it amazing how McEwans manages to keep that ale so smooth and sweet
despite the potency? What is the %age ABV on the label where you buy it?
and, of course, where are you from? Pete Clinch from the UK posted that it
was only formulated at 5%-6% across the pond!
--
Cheers,
Paul Weiss
E-mail: cpw...@netaccess.on.ca
Personal Home Page: http://www.netaccess.on.ca/~cpweiss/
Quote: "To you, it's a six-pack ... to me, it's a support group!"
Ullrich
> When I think about food on a 10+ day trip, I am meticulous about
> bringing 40% carbs, 30% protein, and 30% fat (modified according to
> altitude and other factors). I'm trying to figure out how to add
> alcohol in to that mix, since at 7 calories per gram, it's a pretty
> efficient way to carry calories.
My favorite camping tipple has been scotch or Jack Daniels.
JD and Glenfiddich comes in handy ~16oz size.
Phil
Stephen Shepherd
Paul Weiss wrote:
> In article <373793A5...@ix.netcom.com>, Andrew Heiz
> <is...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> > Paul Weiss wrote:
> >
> > > I could add in one of my favourites ... McEwan's Scotch Ale!
> > >
> >
> > Cheers indeed! McEwans Scotch Ale is one potent Ale. Good choice Paul.
> >
>
> Isn't it amazing how McEwans manages to keep that ale so smooth and sweet
> despite the potency? What is the %age ABV on the label where you buy it?
> and, of course, where are you from? Pete Clinch from the UK posted that it
> was only formulated at 5%-6% across the pond!
>
Ah, McEwans. Available on HM Ships where it is know as "Red Death". In the
Wardroom Bar there is CSB (Courage Special Brew) on tap which is especially
formulated to last on long voyages. Ever noticed how Yorkshire Bitters don't
tend to travel well? Local pub in Surrey (UK) serves Hancocks HB which has
actually travelled well from Swansea.
It should be noted that many of the US beers available in the UK are locally
brewed and have different alcoholic volumes.
> --
> Cheers,
> Paul Weiss
>
> E-mail: cpw...@netaccess.on.ca
> Personal Home Page: http://www.netaccess.on.ca/~cpweiss/
>
> Quote: "To you, it's a six-pack ... to me, it's a support group!"
> "Don't take life too seriously ... nobody gets out alive!"
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can?? I've packed beer many times but never bottles. Cans are lighter and
you can crush them to make more room, problem is I've never came across
what I would call a good beer in a can. Alcohol wise I'll jump on the
McEwans scotch ale bandwagon.
-D
nic...@hotmail.com wrote:
>Thinking about packing in some beer but because of the weight I want to
>take with me the least amount as possible to do the job, so to speak.
>So, any idea which beer has the most bang for the weight?
nic...@hotmail.com wrote:
Deacon
Paul Weiss wrote:
> Puts me in mind of a Canadian's favourite jibe at American beer!
>
> Why is American beer like making love in a canoe?
>
> 'Cause it's fuckin' near water!! ;-)
One bottle of smooth, refreshing Anchor Steam will get you to emigrate
to San Francisco! Very light-brown foam, nice lace, not too
hoppy, moderately potent. Excellent stuff!
Daniel J Rabinowitz
>Alcohol is not absorbed into cells, so it does not have any dietary
>value. It is metabolized, but only so the body can flush it out
>through your kidneys as quickly as possible. You can only metabolize
>about ~~ 400 Cal per day anyway.
I'm confused. You say that it doesn't have any dietary value. Does
that mean that, from a caloric standpoint, it's worthless?
-dan
Paul Weiss
What a great, colourful name! I'll keep my eyes peeled for it in the local
outlet, although I don't hold out much chances of success finding one. If
you care to ship me one, I accept ;-)
caper
Dorval @ 9% alcohol it is quite potent and yet it is some of the best beer i
have ever had. Also have bottled my own in plastic pop bottles of varying
sizes with reasonable success....it's nothing close to a bottle but niether
is a can!!!
caper
CW Lockett
spelling similar to that. I believe it comes from Belgium or Switzerland. I had
a bottle once at a drinking fest in NYC before a friend's wedding. It's only
bottled one day a year, the day of Saint Nicholas or someone. Anyway, it's only
bottled on December 6th. It is 12% alcohol. 24-proof beer! It ain't cheap, but
it is potent for brew.
If you really HAVE to know about this beer, I'll dig for my old notes on it. I
was once a journalist who wrote a story about local homebrewers - fun research!
One of the local brewers told me about it.
Cheers,
Christopher Lockett
Atlanta, GA
Paul Weiss
me thirsty so I went out and bought a new six pack yesterday afternoon. So
this info is right from the label:
Brewed by Scottish & Newcastle Breweries PLC Edinburgh, Scotland
Product of Scotland
8.5% alc/vol
So it would appear that it is NOT brewed by a Canadian brewery under
licence. OTOH, is the Scottish firm making a slightly different recipe or
strength for export to Canada? I also found it interesting that the bottle
refers to itself as a malt liquor, but the box refers to Scotch Ale. Is
there any technical difference?
Gary S.
cpw...@netaccess.on.ca (Paul Weiss) wrote:
> For those of you that have been on the McEwan's bandwagon, it was making
> me thirsty so I went out and bought a new six pack yesterday afternoon. So
> this info is right from the label:
>
> Brewed by Scottish & Newcastle Breweries PLC Edinburgh, Scotland
> Product of Scotland
> 8.5% alc/vol
>
> So it would appear that it is NOT brewed by a Canadian brewery under
> licence. OTOH, is the Scottish firm making a slightly different recipe or
> strength for export to Canada? I also found it interesting that the bottle
> refers to itself as a malt liquor, but the box refers to Scotch Ale. Is
> there any technical difference?
>
I know some US brewers have different versions for sale in different
states here; some have a "near beer" for sale in the states where that is
sold. There also are non-alcohol versions sold in countries (many Islamic)
where alcohol is illegal.
At one point, Molson had some types sold in Canada, but not available here
in the US. Knew some people who made road trips from NH to PQ just to get
some of them.
The names do have specific meanings, but I think the meaning varies place
to place depending on legal definitions and local marketing.
Thank you for your diligent research efforts.
Happy trails,
Gary
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Ullrich
> The beer with the world's highest alcohol content is Sami Claus or some
> spelling similar to that. I believe it comes from Belgium or Switzerland.
> I had a bottle once at a drinking fest in NYC before a friend's wedding.
> It's only bottled one day a year, the day of Saint Nicholas or someone.
> Anyway, it's only bottled on December 6th. It is 12% alcohol. 24-proof
> beer! It ain't cheap, but it is potent for brew.
> If you really HAVE to know about this beer, I'll dig for my old notes on it.
> I was once a journalist who wrote a story about local homebrewers - fun
> research!
As I understand it, what beer has the highest content is still debated.
Sam Adams made their god-awful triple Bock to be over 12%. Samiclaus is
from Switzerland, and as someone already pointed out, is still in stores
but no longer being produced. We're way into rec.food.drink.beer
territory now, but what the hell. Here are my notes:
This is a 1996 batch, bottled in 1997.
My second experience with this monster beer.
Dark red garnet, just a little ring head
Molasses malt and alcohol aroma. The malt-breadiness and the winy alcohol
make it smell like smoky fondue, in a good way.
Intense malt and alcohol flavor, not as thick as you would expect from
aroma, but still huge body, a little fruit in middle, but mainly a couple
dimensions: molasses malt and alcohol, big and good, a deep beer.
Surprisingly dry finish. This beer resembles some big doppelbocks,
Kulmbacher Eisbock, a bit like Skullsplitter.
Phil
MKloepster
>refers to itself as a malt liquor, but the box refers to Scotch Ale. Is
>there any technical difference?
"Malt liquor" is a term applied to most beers over a certain % alc. I think
it's strictly a U.S. thing, but am not sure of the precise origin of the label
(perhaps different tax treatment--perhaps big brother looking over our
shoulders, making sure that we poor, addled consumers know it is stronger than
"beer"). What I do know is that "malt liqour" basically translates into "high
alcohol lager."
Still, I wonder if a barlywine gets the "ML" label? It should be stronger than
the average "ML". Cheers
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bizbee wrote:
>
> Yn erthygl
> <Pine.A41.3.95.990514...@red.weeg.uiowa.edu>,
> sgrifenws Ullrich <pull...@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>:
>
> >As I understand it, what beer has the highest content is still debated.
> >Sam Adams made their god-awful triple Bock to be over 12%.
>
> Geez, I'm glad to hear you say that about that miserable shit. I've
> heard so many people who "know" beer say "interesting.... hmmm... good
> flavor...". I've been brewing for close to twenty years, and I thought
> the stuff reminded me of getting sick on Spañada. My sister, who lives
> in Germany, was quite serious when she said it reminded her of piss.
>
> So where does EKU rate in the alcohol content, anyone know? It seems
> to me I seem to remember it advertised back in the 80's as being
> pretty high... but it tasted lilke shit, perhaps they changed their
> recipe. High alcohol beer is usually a drag, I like flavor in my beer,
> not overwhelming dryness... to each his own. If I want to get loaded,
> I find bourbon.
That Triple Bock is like port wine that has gone off with a shot of Log
Cabin artificially flavored maple syrup. The two worst beers I've had
in the past few years are Jim Dundee's and Shiner Bock. I am constantly
bitching about the fact that you can't get good beer in cans. With the
size of Sierra Nevada's operation, they could start canning and hikers,
paddlers, etc. would buy them like crazy.
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Bryan
bizbee wrote:
>
> Yn erthygl <cpweiss-1405...@199.243.225.82>, sgrifenws
> cpw...@netaccess.on.ca (Paul Weiss):
>
> >So it would appear that it is NOT brewed by a Canadian brewery under
> >licence. OTOH, is the Scottish firm making a slightly different recipe or
> >strength for export to Canada? I also found it interesting that the bottle
> >refers to itself as a malt liquor, but the box refers to Scotch Ale. Is
> >there any technical difference?
>
> It's quite possible... give a look at the Guiness web page some time,
> you'll be surprised how many different kinds of the "same" Guiness are
> sold all over the world.
Guiness = undercarbonated, overrated
Peter Clinch
> Guiness = undercarbonated, overrated
Depends where you drink it and how well the potmen know their trade. I
was unconvinced until I had it in Co. Clare, where I saw the error of my
ways and rounded several days' caving trips with several pints.
John Reece
nic...@hotmail.com wrote in message <37347D...@hotmail.com>...
>Thinking about packing in some beer but because of the weight I want to
>take with me the least amount as possible to do the job, so to speak.
>So, any idea which beer has the most bang for the weight?
Malt Liquor? That's US-speak for cheap beer fortified with
ethanol up to about 8%.
Take some whisky and make boilermakers.....
John Reece
No longer not speaking for Intel
barry hampson
special ale that approaches 16% ABV.Must use a special yeast as most ale
yeasts wouldnt be able to cope with that level of alcohol.
Bazza UK
P'tit Spiroo
bottle under my eyes..
I tried it, and to be honest it was hard to finish it...drink it carefully !
CU,
P'tit Spiroo
barry hampson wrote in message <3745A970...@net.ntl.com>...
Arete99
that is, for alcohol to be added (e.g. Mad Dog 20-20). At about 12% alcohol,
the yeast is killed, stopping fermentation. Maybe some brewers have developed
some super strains of yeast...or maybe they just added a little grain alcohol
to tweak up the potency of their brew. Check the label on your 16% suds for
the word "fortified".
Pete Hickey
>Belzebuth, a beer from Quebec is terrific, it's 15% certified, just have the
>bottle under my eyes..
>I tried it, and to be honest it was hard to finish it...drink it carefully !
There are a number of micro-brewed beers from Québec, that
IMO, are brewed to be strong, not good. You can usually tell
these by their name. You'll see something like, Holy water
or Ilegal..
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