Hiking NUDE - Opinions?
Bill Salmon
nor...@this.address (Pete) wrote:
>
> Have you ever hiked nude? Shocking to people you pass?
> Have you ever passed a nude hiker? Were you shocked?
> Where is it more acceptable to hike nude? What are your
> opinions on this?
In a public place, including on a public trail, it's indecent exposure.
That's why it's against the law. But it's not a BIG deal; that's why
it's only a misdemeanor.
Bill
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KalalauRich
>nor...@this.address (Pete) wrote:
>>
>> Have you ever hiked nude? Shocking to people you pass?
>> Have you ever passed a nude hiker? Were you shocked?
>> Where is it more acceptable to hike nude? What are your
>> opinions on this?
>
>In a public place, including on a public trail, it's indecent exposure.
>That's why it's against the law. But it's not a BIG deal; that's why
>it's only a misdemeanor.
>
>Bill
While hiking/backpacking along the Kalalau Trail on the Na Pali Coast
of Kauai ( I live two miles from trailhead and have backpacked it
dozens of times) it is actually not unusual to see several backpackers
of both sexes hiking without any clothing. I have gotten so used to it
that it does not even seem out of the ordinary. Of course when you
reach the final destination, Kalalau Beach (aka paradise) you will be
lucky to find anyone wearing any clothes. Hiking without clothes has
great advantages in Hawaii where the heat and humidity can be
oppressive at times. Of course it is essential to put sunscreen on
those parts of the body where the sun usually does not shine:-)
I was a bit self conscious the first time I went naked in public at
Kalalau. Now I am not even aware that I am not wearing clothes when I
am in the valley. Unfortunately our society equates nudity with
sexuality and perversion. Those who have been to Kalalau and have
experienced the ambience change their mind about this. It is quite
liberating.
I am looking forward to my next trip out there next month. People come
from all over the world to hike this Na Pali Coast trail and most who
do, come back again and again. It is a place that you just don't want
to leave and must return. One would be hard pressed to find a trail
that rivals the Kalalau trail for breathtakingly beautiful scenery.
With warm aloha,
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nor...@this.address
Have you ever hiked nude? Shocking to people you pass?
Have you ever passed a nude hiker? Were you shocked?
Where is it more acceptable to hike nude? What are your
opinions on this?
Pete
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> Where the heck do you keep your cigarettes and lighter?.......or chewing
> gum if you are a non smoker???????????
>
> Me again.
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Well, I know where the gum can go after a few chews but we have to
discuss it in the alt.NGs.
osca...@worldnet.att.net
With all these postings about guns, bears, cougars in the wilds aren't
you afraid of losing your "unit." <G>
-T.
>In a public place, including on a public trail, it's indecent exposure.
>That's why it's against the law.
Many states require lewd intent before pursuing an indecent exposure charge.
-T.
Norman Goetz
In article <33496F...@worldnet.att.net>,
Bill Salmon <FUBARb...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>nor...@this.address (Pete) wrote:
>> Have you ever hiked nude? Shocking to people you pass?
>> Have you ever passed a nude hiker? Were you shocked?
>> Where is it more acceptable to hike nude? What are your
>> opinions on this?
>
>it's only a misdemeanor.
>
>Bill
>
Indecent exposure means sexual arousal in public, or an intent to frighten
or offend, not simple nudity. Try scanning the web for the Camping
BARES, a California group which camps and hikes nude regularly. Even
if you are not near CA, they will have more answers than I or most anyone
else in this group.
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Bill wrote:
nor...@this.address (Pete) wrote:
>
> Have you ever hiked nude? Shocking to people you pass?
> Have you ever passed a nude hiker? Were you shocked?
> Where is it more acceptable to hike nude? What are your
> opinions on this?
In a public place, including on a public trail, it's indecent exposure.
That's why it's against the law. But it's not a BIG deal; that's why
it's only a misdemeanor.
Bill
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Actually, on federal land (National Parks and Forests) there is no
*federal* law against being nude.
If it *offends* someone, then it is disorderly conduct. Of course parks
and forests in *most* states (except Utah where there is proprietary
jurisdiction), rangers have a choice of enforcing state law where a
federal law doesn't cover a specific situation.
Most often, a ranger will just ask you to put your clothes back on, and
that's the end of if you are in an area that is fairly isolated and are
not *offending families*.
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Glassner
>Federal land generally permits nudity.
"Tolerate" might be a more accurate term in this case. And
that usually only applies to remote trails or specific areas
(here in San Francisco the Golden Gate National Recreation
Area allows nudity at the north end of Baker Beach, but not
at the south end, for example).
Colin Fletcher (sp?) talked of his hikes sans clothing, but
even he donned clothing when he got to areas where he might
meet another hiker.
>Indecent exposure means sexual arousal in public, or an intent to frighten
>or offend, not simple nudity. Try scanning the web for the Camping
>BARES, a California group which camps and hikes nude regularly. Even
>if you are not near CA, they will have more answers than I or most anyone
>else in this group.
Courts have generally agreed that mere nudity has nothing to
do with "indecent exposure", but officers writing tickets
often seem to feel otherwise.
The Naturist Society of Oshkosh has extensive information on
areas were nudity is "tolerated" and where it isn't.
Mark Schneider
On Mon, 07 Apr 1997 15:05:33 -0700, Bill Salmon
>nor...@this.address (Pete) wrote:
>>
>> Have you ever hiked nude? Shocking to people you pass?
>> Have you ever passed a nude hiker? Were you shocked?
>> Where is it more acceptable to hike nude? What are your
>> opinions on this?
>
>In a public place, including on a public trail, it's indecent exposure.
>That's why it's against the law. But it's not a BIG deal; that's why
>it's only a misdemeanor.
>
>Bill
hey! Maybe YOURS is no big deal, but let's not go generalizing ALL of
us (heh!)! You mean they take size into account when they rate the
seriousness of the crime?!? I would imagine this would be an inverse
scale for the ladies?
Seriously, the last time I heard of a nude hike, it was on Monadnock.
They had a person in front and back, each with a whistle. They were
about a hundred yards from the people in the middle. If other people
were spotted, the whistle'd blow, and the clothes would go back on!
Mark - running and ducking...
>
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chipper
nor...@this.address wrote:
>
> Have you ever hiked nude? Shocking to people you pass?
> Have you ever passed a nude hiker? Were you shocked?
> Where is it more acceptable to hike nude? What are your
> opinions on this?
>
Oh no,
not again
%vi .kill
R Walker
> If it *offends* someone, then it is disorderly conduct. Of course parks
> and forests in *most* states (except Utah where there is proprietary
> jurisdiction), rangers have a choice of enforcing state law where a
> federal law doesn't cover a specific situation.
And a sheriff or city police officer still can arrest you, whether you
are on federal property or not.
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Eugene Miya
In article <334AD5...@avwashington.com>,
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Sailou
I generaly avoid hiking nude in areas where mosquitos frequently
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Bob Toole
It hurts my pee pee when I scrape it on a pine tree!!
nor...@this.address wrote in article
<5ibegv$4...@argentina.earthlink.net>...
M'Daid
>Have you ever hiked nude?
>Have you ever passed a nude hiker? Were you shocked?
>What are your opinions on this?
mosquitoes, etc.? Fine with me. However, I like to keep mine intact. And
I'm not an exhibitionist by nature, so nude hiking doesn't appeal to me.
Although if I ever get seriously into survival skills and primitive
technology, I suppose I'll have to try it.
bdah
I really wish Vibram would invent a sole for my dangling member!!!
Eugene Miya
In article <01bc4480$98b9fe40$971d6dce@tendo_dojo>,
R Walker <r...@neosoft.com> wrote:
>And a sheriff or city police officer still can arrest you, whether you
>are on federal property or not.
Well, no, not quite. That's a question of "jurisdiction."
Speaking from Federal property. Lunching with a Fremont PD friend on Friday,
he will have no real jurisdiction here, a social call.
Enforcement is arbitrary. A HUMMV with Air Police armed with M-16s
proved that here on a recent speeding ticket. Depends on the crime,
and a number of other factors.
Robert R. Marley
In article <334e28c0...@news.pacbell.net>, rag...@ix.netcom.com--
(R. A. Green) wrote:
> That may be true, but I recommend that you try shopping at the local
> mall in the nude sometime, or perhaps a stroll past the local
> elementary school, and see how long it takes to arrest you...."lewd
> intent" is a pretty broad description.
> Also, I'm not sure where Federal law stands on this subject, but keep
> in mind that when you are in a national park, you are under Federal
> jurisdiction, not state....
That's better. As someone already said, there is no Federal Law against
public nudity.
Best Regards 8-)
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In article <334e28c0...@news.pacbell.net> rag...@ix.netcom.com-- (R. A. Green) writes:
>I recommend that you try shopping at the local
>mall in the nude sometime, or perhaps a stroll past the local
>elementary school, and see how long it takes to arrest you...."lewd
>intent" is a pretty broad description.
Um, which one of those, did you figure, falls under the hiking nude subject?
That said, depending on the locality, the arrest would likely be for
disturbing the peace.
>Also, I'm not sure where Federal law stands on this subject, but keep
>in mind that when you are in a national park, you are under Federal
>jurisdiction, not state....
Feds don't generally make much noise about it one way or the other.
-T.
Eugene Miya
It is not worth the time of most cops to fill out the paperwork
on an indecent exposure charge.
But like Arlo Guthrie notes in Alice's Restaurant, you could
"bein' a nuisance."
men...@aol.com
>It is not worth the time of most cops to fill out the paperwork
>on an indecent exposure charge.
Not true. If a cop is occupied dealing with a basically harmless "perpetrator", it
reduces his exposure to really dangerous criminals. That's part of the reason it
is popular to ticket speeders, pot smokers, and other minor violations. It's simply
a safer way to be a cop. Understand here that I'm generalizing, and that some cops
are truly brave, dedicated safeguarders of lives and property.
R Walker
Eugene Miya <eug...@cse.ucsc.edu> wrote in article <5ihan6$2...@darkstar.ucsc.edu>...
> In article <01bc4480$98b9fe40$971d6dce@tendo_dojo>,
> R Walker <r...@neosoft.com> wrote:
> >And a sheriff or city police officer still can arrest you, whether you
> >are on federal property or not.
>
> Well, no, not quite. That's a question of "jurisdiction."
Fine, they can wait for you to leave federal property and then
arrest you. The point I was trying to make is that if you're
gonna wander around with the wabbly bits flapping around,
then you probably shouldn't be too surprised if you get
in trouble with one LEO or another....
Merrick Burkhardt
>>Have you ever passed a nude hiker? Were you shocked?
No, I haven't. But I would be shocked---I think I'd go see a
gastroenterologist ;-)
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In <5invhu$g1e$1...@mack.rt66.com> mer...@news.rt66.com (Merrick
it wouldn't shock me. i grew up near boston and saw plenty of
flashers. i'd probably start laughing and wonder if that's was all
there was.
Eugene Miya
In article <5ilrhg$2...@darkstar.ucsc.edu>, eug...@cse.ucsc.edu
(Eugene Miya) writes:
>>It is not worth the time of most cops to fill out the paperwork
>>on an indecent exposure charge.
In article <19970412005...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
<men...@aol.com> wrote:
>Not true.
>If a cop is occupied dealing with a basically harmless "perpetrator",
>itreduces his exposure to really dangerous criminals.
Actually, I should point out that what I posted was a paraphrase of a
friend (a cop) I had over for lunch (on Friday) to talk about the
erotica/porn on the net issue. He was the first cop to use computers to
run a sting (oh, some ten years ago).
>That's part of the reason it is popular to ticket speeders, pot smokers,
>and other minor violations. It's simply a safer way to be a cop.
He's now spending his time working with the bomb squad.
In California, it largely not even worth the paperwork time to ticket pot.
>Understand here that I'm generalizing, and that some cops
>are truly brave, dedicated safeguarders of lives and property.
I understand. I have no doubt that Dan is brave and dedicated.
Most cops, would probably merely take their jackets, drape the person,
and move them away from an area with a warning. I suspect that many
would attempt to find out motive (say search for sign of mental illness or
poverty, assault by another [nude as a victim]).
Lonely are the Brave's (the film) arrest scene (public drunkeness) is
like that. It's been like that for decades.
I think if cops wanted to be truly safe, they would quit being cops.
Glassner
Sti...@wpo.sosc.osshe.edu (-T.) wrote:
>Also, I'm not sure where Federal law stands on this subject, but keep
>in mind that when you are in a national park, you are under Federal
>jurisdiction, not state....
Actually, with a few specific exceptions, there is nothing
in the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) prohibiting nudity
per se. However, even on federal land you MAY be subject to
state or local regulations (if an agreement exists between
the different jurisdictions). Just ask a bunch of folks who
were visiting a national park beach in florida a few weeks
ago who were arrested by the local authorities under a local
law banning nudity - inspite of the fact that no federal law
disallowed their nude sunbathing.
(BTW, I live near a national park in California where at
several locations nude sunbathing is allowed.)
Merrick Burkhardt
>>>>Have you ever passed a nude hiker? Were you shocked?
>>
>>No, I haven't. But I would be shocked---I think I'd go see a
>>gastroenterologist ;-)
>>
>flashers. i'd probably start laughing and wonder if that's was all
>there was.
*sigh* A gastroenetrologist is a doctor who treats bowel problems---if I
*passed* a nude hiker (or any hiker for that matter) I'd be a bit nervous.
Think about the old joke about the cannibal who passed his brother in th
woods for a second. Oh well.
DGoncz
I climbed a big hill in Woodstock, VT many years ago, carrying my clothes.
I met up with some school mates on the other side. Nobody seemed to think
it was strange. We were able to carry on a conversation, which is a good
test of whether the nudity or hiking speed is a problem. At an
intersection of country roads, I dressed for the return.
I think it was on the same trip two of us climbed what might have been the
same hill, but this time instead of not WEARING anything, we didn't SAY
anything. An interesting experience. I like what the other poster wrote
about having whistles at both ends of the line.
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In article <334e28c0...@news.pacbell.net>, rag...@ix.netcom.com-- (R. A. Green) writes:
>Also, I'm not sure where Federal law stands on this subject, but keep
>in mind that when you are in a national park, you are under Federal
>jurisdiction, not state....
>
>
No problem in NPs. If an objection is raised the offending party is asked to cover up and or move until the offended party is gone.
-T.
In article <33503500...@news.wenet.net> ran...@hooked.net (Glassner) writes:
>Sti...@wpo.sosc.osshe.edu (-T.) wrote:
>>Also, I'm not sure where Federal law stands on this subject, but keep
>>in mind that when you are in a national park, you are under Federal
>>jurisdiction, not state....
No, as a matter of fact, someone else wrote it.
>Actually, with a few specific exceptions, there is nothing
>in the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) prohibiting nudity
>per se. However, even on federal land you MAY be subject to
>state or local regulations (if an agreement exists between
>the different jurisdictions). Just ask a bunch of folks who
>were visiting a national park beach in florida a few weeks
>ago who were arrested by the local authorities under a local
>law banning nudity - inspite of the fact that no federal law
>disallowed their nude sunbathing.
Yep.
-T.
Mark Fraser
All this talk of nude hiking. Seriously doubt ANY-ONE would be that daft
here in Scotland. It's either too cold or the midges in summer require
you to cover every bit of skin. Even then, you are still bound to get
bitten. Mossies just don't compare, the Midge is the ultimate bitting
maching, and it loves to go for the soft fleshy areas. You expose skin
at your peril to this beast. I swear it can smell fresh blood at
200 yards.
Mark. (Unbitten so far this year.)
Werewolf
I've never seen a nude hiker on the trail, but I've seen plenty of them
in downtown Berkley. No joke.
-Werewolf
Trn0
I have 2 things to say:
1. Mosquitos
2. Poison Ivy
grins,
TimN
-T.
On 22 Apr 1997 01:31:53 GMT, tr...@aol.com (Trn0) wrote:
>I have 2 things to say:
>1. Mosquitos
>2. Poison Ivy
Two replies:
1. Insect repellant.
2. Detection and avoidance.
:-) backattcha....
-T.
bambi
gee you forgot that you might get a nasty sun or windburn.
-T.
Hasn't happened yet.
-T.
(Rec.backcountry indeed! Haven't heard of insect repellant or
sunscreen and can't identify poison ivy <sheesh>).
KLM
baby...@ix.netcom.com(bambi) wrote:
>In <335c205c....@news.osshe.edu> sti...@wave.net (-T.) writes:
>>
>>On 22 Apr 1997 01:31:53 GMT, tr...@aol.com (Trn0) wrote:
>>
>>>I have 2 things to say:
>>>1. Mosquitos
>>>2. Poison Ivy
>>
>>Two replies:
>>
>>1. Insect repellant.
>>
>>2. Detection and avoidance.
>>
>>:-) backattcha....
>>
>>-T.
>
>gee you forgot that you might get a nasty sun or windburn.
>
there are some "sensitive" places where I want neither mosquitos
nor nasty chemical repellants! Also: I'm figuring NUDE means no
boots either. I can hike with minimal clothing, but the boots
are staying on!
Bill and Sandra Tyner
KLM (dvkl...@nospam.mhs.unc.edu) wrote:
Good! Makes it easier for the bald faced mtn hornet to tear loose and
consume great chunks of flesh. You don't want to make them really angry!
Bill
Dan Griffin
In article <5jhju8$q...@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com>, baby...@ix.netcom.co
writes...
>gee you forgot that you might get a nasty sun or windburn.
Hmmm...no one seems to have said anything about actually hiking
nude. I have, on occasion, hiked nude. In camp nudity is
generally more comfortable, though. As far as sunburn, I
only got a severe sunburn once, in Maine, and it was due to
my stupidity. However, the 'vital area' that one might wonder
about (as I did) was totally unscathed. I have no idea why--
the front of my legs and stomach were pretty badly burned.
Dan
Daniel Snoek
Trn0 wrote:
>
> I have 2 things to say:
> 1. Mosquitos
> 2. Poison Ivy
>
> TimN
I don't hike in just my birthday suit but 1.) in many areas you won't
see a single mosquito, and 2.) you will not find poison oak above about
5000-something feet. (Poison Ivy is in the eastern US?)
Jerry Hudgens
You have to be careful of bag drag.
Larrylee
Why not? I have considered this on many occassions, but have yet to find
out where it is ok (on public lands) to do so. If I knew that I would
probably try it there. I imagine the freedoms would be much the same as
anything else. The problems would be similar too. Mosquitos would have
more access, but still a nuisance. The cold would still be cold, but
probably a little earlier in the evening. The packbelt would still rub (or
sit) on your hips. There are nude beaches.....I'm sure there are nude
wilderness areas! :-)
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Larrylee (Larr...@theworks.com) wrote:
> Why not? I have considered this on many occassions, but have yet to find
> out where it is ok (on public lands) to do so. If I knew that I would
> probably try it there. I imagine the freedoms would be much the same as
> anything else. The problems would be similar too. Mosquitos would have
> more access, but still a nuisance. The cold would still be cold, but
> probably a little earlier in the evening. The packbelt would still rub (or
> sit) on your hips. There are nude beaches.....I'm sure there are nude
> wilderness areas! :-)
At the risk of starting another nud hiking thread, I suggest that you read
the FAQ in rec.nude.
NJM
N Jill Marsh
-T. (sti...@wave.net) wrote:
> (Rec.backcountry indeed! Haven't heard of insect repellant or
> sunscreen and can't identify poison ivy <sheesh>).
Be patient Ted! Start a really long thread!
Am I still nude if I'm wearing my compass?
Really, camping and hiking nude, even in blackfly country, is not a big deal.
Though I admit that I will always wear a t-shirt when carrying my pack (and
boots), to protect my tender skin and frail shoulders.
NJM
N Jill Marsh
KLM (dvkl...@nospam.mhs.unc.edu) wrote:
> there are some "sensitive" places where I want neither mosquitos
> nor nasty chemical repellants! Also: I'm figuring NUDE means no
> boots either. I can hike with minimal clothing, but the boots
> are staying on!
Well, there was a fairly long and detailed thread in rec.nude a while ago
concerning `am I nude if I wear footwear'. Posters were pretty evenly
divided.
While I will hike long distancs barefoot, over remarkedly varied terrain,
if I've got a pack on then I will wear boots. But then again, if I'm wearing
a pack, am I still nude?
NJM
MarkGrubb
Have experienced excellent nude backpacking in Canyonlands - just figure
out what you are going to say/do when you walk up on the Outward Bounders
or the family with 3 kids before you encounter them......
Dan Griffin
In article <01bc538d$231368e0$69b5abce@larry-s-laptop>, Larr...@theworks.com
writes...
>. There are nude beaches.....I'm sure there are nude
>wilderness areas! :-)
I wouldn't bet on it. However, if you are in a wilderness area,
what have you to fear? The last time I was already in camp and
when a large group of boy scouts (?) arrived I just donned shorts.
No big deal.
Dan
Luke Klink
Gene Case wrote:
>
> I think that anyone who risks hypothermia, skin abrasions, sunburn,
> rashes, and bug bites in amounts that are exponentially higher than
> clothed backpackers has got to be stupid.
> What could cause anyone to hike nude anyway? I can only think of
> increased sexual excitement? Any other takers?
>
> Gene Case
a breeze where (possibly) no breeze has blown before is refreshing when
it is 90-plus farenheit and i am sweating from hiking. when the wind
blows--stop and enjoy ;)
luke
Gene Case
Actually you retain more moisture in hot dry weather and therefore stay
cooler and stronger if you wear clothing in such a climate. Of course
there's still the issue of sun damage.
I lived in the high desert of California for a number of years. Anyone
who went outside without most of their body covered was a likely
candidate for heat exaustion and/or dehydration. This includes proper
head cover (covering top of head and shading eyes and ears and neck).
Of course hydration is a constant factor (hydrate or die!)
Gene Case
Timothy J. Hart
Jaume M. Canaves wrote:
>
> On Wed, 27 Aug 1997, Garry W wrote:> > A dry climate + hot weather.
>
> I would say hot weather BUT in a climate with lots of moisture in the
> air.
> When you experience that sticky environment (either close to the ocean
> or
> ina rain forest) any opportunity to get rid of those clothes that
> stick to
> your skin is welcome.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jaume
>
So now your skin can stick to itself? Ick! I hate that worse than wet
pretzels!
Abe D. Lockman
In article <34044B...@vvm.com>, gc...@vvm.com wrote:
> I think that anyone who risks hypothermia, skin abrasions, sunburn,
> rashes, and bug bites in amounts that are exponentially higher than
> clothed backpackers has got to be stupid.
> What could cause anyone to hike nude anyway? I can only think of
> increased sexual excitement? Any other takers?
>
> Gene Case
If you're nude, the bears can see that you're not carrying any food on
your person, and won't bother frisking you.
adl
Bill Shakal
whats with the narrow idea that nudity = sexual arousal. sure ain't
that way at home.
Mark Drury
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In article <34044B...@vvm.com>, gc...@vvm.com wrote:
> > I think that anyone who risks hypothermia, skin abrasions, sunburn,
> > rashes, and bug bites in amounts that are exponentially higher than
> > clothed backpackers has got to be stupid.
> > What could cause anyone to hike nude anyway? I can only think of
> > increased sexual excitement? Any other takers?
In the late 70s, early 80s, when I was in high school, I'd do 1-2 trips
every summer in California's Marble Mountain Wilderness (the Yellow
Jacket Ridge, Clear Lake area, to be precise). And, without fail, every
summer I'd meet Ol' Tom, the nude hiker, somewhere near or enroute
to Clear Lake (he was probably in his mid-30s at the time). He camped
and fished the area all summer, and kept a large rubber raft suspended
about 30' in a pine tree on the shore of Clear Lake. About the second
or third summer I was camped with my younger brother, John (he was
14, I 16), at the lake when, lo and behold, Tom and his girlfriend
stopped
by our camp, nude, for a drink and a smoke (they had a fifth of J.D. and
a
joint, if memory serves). That experience still ranks as one of the most
awkward (and looking back, humorous) of my life, but to get to the point,
near the end of the "conversation" I summoned the nerve to ask Tom why
he hiked nude, and his reply went something like, "Lotta people ask me
that. Think I'm strange or somethin'. I always tell 'em there's no
point
explainin' why *I* do it--like most things, they have to try it to find
out
for themselves." Kind of anti-climactic, I know, but the point is
obvious:
don't bother asking why others do it; throw caution and genitalia to the
wind and try it yourself, if you're curious.
Before Tom and his girlfriend left our camp that evening Tom asked who,
between my brother and I, was the better fisherman and, sensing what
was coming, I immediately pointed to John and praised his uncanny
knack for catching fish when others couldn't, something which was com-
pletely untrue. John was flattered at first, gladly accepting my false
praise, until he was hit with the inevitable challenge from Tom, "OK,
John,
I'll be by at the crack o' dawn to take you out in the raft, see what you
got." Needless to say, John didn't sleep well that night, haunted by
images
of he and a naked Tom scrunched together in the rubber raft, adrift on
Clear
Lake. John woke me at 4am ready to break camp and we cleared the cirque
headwall above the lake, on the trail to Alghren Cabin, well before the
sun
was above the eastern horizon.
-- Mark
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Stephen R. Webb
Mark Drury wrote:
> ... In the late 70s, early 80s, when I was in high school, I'd do 1-2 > trips every summer ...
> ... About the second or third summer I was camped with my younger
> brother, John (he was 14, I 16), at the lake when, lo and behold,
> Tom and his girlfriend stopped by our camp, nude, for a drink and
> a smoke ...
Last year I was leading a Boy Scout troop 50-mile canoe trek when we
came upon some nude sunbathers on a rock on Long Lake. The Scout
comment: "Boy, I can't wait to get home and tell Riley! Will he be
sorry he missed this trip!"
SRW
me
In article <5v6hav$29ic$1...@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>,
MAS...@prodigy.com (Bill Shakal) wrote:
> whats with the narrow idea that nudity = sexual arousal. sure ain't
> that way at home.
If you are not aroused thats OK but why are you bragging about it and what
thread are you responding to anyway ? Does this have anything to do with
rec.backcountry ?
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Mark,
A very funny tail!
Casey
In article <34170A68...@netscape.com>, Mark Drury
<mdr...@netscape.com> wrote:
> In the late 70s, early 80s, when I was in high school, I'd do 1-2 trips
> every summer in California's Marble Mountain Wilderness (the Yellow
> Jacket Ridge, Clear Lake area, to be precise). And, without fail, every
> summer I'd meet Ol' Tom, the nude hiker, somewhere near or enroute
> to Clear Lake (he was probably in his mid-30s at the time). He camped
> and fished the area all summer, and kept a large rubber raft suspended
> about 30' in a pine tree on the shore of Clear Lake. About the second
> or third summer I was camped with my younger brother, John (he was
> 14, I 16), at the lake when, lo and behold, Tom and his girlfriend
> stopped
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Rob Blais
ElsieRoque wrote:
>
> It's the chaffing that finally got to me.
I can sum up the best reasons for not hiking nude in New England in
four simple words: Mosquitos and Black Flies.
/rob