hiking and biking miles
happy.wh...@spokane.wa.net.lib
The road to my one of my favorite trail head is closed 5 miles from the
trailhead. To hike the trail I would have to ride my bike to the trail head.
Ten miles round trip hiking just to get to the trail head is out of the
question.
5 miles on a bike is comparable to how many miles hiking? That would be ten
miles round trip. If I normally hike 10-14 miles on a day hike how many miles
can I expect to hike when I have to bike for 5 miles to reach the trail head and
then 5 miles to get back to my car after the hike?
Upper South Fork Skokomish trail #873
Description: Moderate-to-strenuous, depending on length of walk, mid-spring
through fall. The superb wild country of the Upper Skok represents the "southern
gateway" to the Great Olympic Wilderness. The initial six miles of trail
penetrate a prime example of the finest remaining ancient forest in the
Northwest. The trail subsequently climbs to lovely subalpine meadows, busy with
elk, on the edge of Olympic National Park. Yet, amazingly, the Upper Skok Valley
remains unprotected to date. OFCO seeks to add the Upper Skok to the nearby
Wonder Mountain Wilderness Area.
Getting there: From Potlatch on U.S. 101, drive south to cross the Skokomish
River bridge, then one-half mile farther, and turn right on the South Fork
Skokomish Road. After five and a half miles on the South Fork road, the road
splits. Take the uphill fork, which becomes Forest Service Road 23. The road
surface changes to gravel, then is paved again. Follow FS 23 for a total of
thirteen miles, then carefully watch for a fork in the road (FS Road 2361) which
dips downhill to the right. Follow FS 2361 five miles to its end at the
trailhead. Note that FS 2361 is closed by a wildlife gate from November 1
through April 30 every year.
ri...@mcn.org
a question of time as it is of energy.
What is the road surface like on that section? Are you an experienced
and regular (mountain?) biker? For me, a five-mile bike approach is not
a big deal unless there is significant elevation gain.
Is it all downhill on the way back? If it is, no big deal. Establish a
turn-around time and stick to it. I just did what was close to a 10
mile bike approach on this bike/hike...
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Rich Owings
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others do their holy books." - Edward Abbey
BikKE MEEEeeeee
mind you I am not t.v. material or be on the box of wheeteis. just a
average older man or smow.......
most what I see is ironman training is about : just to finish and be in
back of pack group.
at a year 5000 miles a year.
at running is 25 miles per week.
now lance said he do about 3500 to 5500 a year trains on the road.
and form and style on the spin cycle. spin cycle not the same.
I agree
because these gym machines has a weight and chain and pulley system to
spin as the revolution go past.
in other words you can get to 50 miles per hour in a matter of
seconds. and stay at 40 to 50 miles per hour just by fast peddle
every 5 or 10 seconds......
in the real world you can't get on a bike and get to 50 mph in seconds.
well maybe if you flying down a mountain.
so it takes a good base. to ride a bike
my first year as out of work I put in 1850 for year.
second year was 7 to 7.5 a day or maybe it was 2400 or 2800 for year.
this year I am trying for 5000 butt well at 4350 or so. and do not
want to push to 5000 because I might brake something....
I hurt my leg 3 plus years ago so with a good base of biking I can
start now to add running.
as you know one needs a running base for two year before marathoners
it....
so the math of what is the ratio.
say for every 10 miles running do 40 to 60 biking... if you want to
trio ath it. per week more for 25 to base and 35 to train after
base.
I cantdo the 600 yard dash now butt back before the hurt leg I could
any time of day or night go for a 10 or 14 mile run and still be good at
work the next day year round. I jog the group told me. butt point is
I ran every week year round all weather....... first in gym and then in
real world..way different........
not a pro just some one who wants to finish it.
biking together.
BikKE MEEEeeeee
I pick up 10¢ cans and cash them
in for change and see stuff in trash carry home and fix.
all out side all terrace and all weather in my area.
not mountain or desert.
I have trail system going up big time here in my state. and am trying to
see how this NEW SYSTEM works. the do and don't s now or 3 years.
the simple way is what you all our talking about.
the not so simple is what I do.
they all fight me all the time and all the way.........
the joke that this footballs team is so tofu they don't go after me
in the game, they go after my family........
job
home
land
every other win at all cost b.s.
in other word as you write were you park your car. they plan to vandals
it.......
you chain your bike to a tree, the next week the tree is cut down.
you chain your bike to a hidden tree they cut ten fruit tree down and
put it at the tree you chain it too.
you not pay $1.00 to use there stuff they wreck or take your tools of
$10.00 because you not pay $1.00.
you going riding north today they well earth move the north today and
make it so soil deep you cant ride.
you plan to ride south and come back east. so the east road back got
that smelled wet mud road on it when you ride east back.
you tell there boss. they lower the entrance to your drive way to 2 or
3 feet.
you take there trash ahead of them, they cut the road into your land.
you pick fruit off a tree. they cut the tree you pick from
you use the group to plan to use trails. they use the group to plan and
wood chip the trail and path it and get paid.
you plan a disperse place to camp. they are there to make sure you
cant disperse that you has to pay camping fee for night.
you plan a event, they are sure to get the sight you want......
a zillion others....too.
you want to use the trails to run hike and bike. they well open it to
hunting.
you want to park and ride and love the park. they well close it ad build
a parking lot.
you like this area for relaxes and hiking. they well build a condo
next to it so next 5 years you get to hear beep beep beep.
you tell of the heard of dears
the next week there hunter every wear and no more deer.
it can go on for ever........
your given a new used bike with the biggest mountain bike tires you ever
saw. mith e lum tires. so the next day you go to myers with the worst
of the bike trash one you own.and as you come out of the store and
inside the cart man tells the inside door man that this man that just
left the store had a spray bottle and spray the bike tires out side.
smell of lector thinner butt different... store man say point to man
and camera well see him. I walk out of store with cart man.this man was
dress in a suit and a vest not a jacket and a newer suv area..and I
think I seen him before. a relator.......
next day trash bike tires are all melted......
I say to self goo think I out take best mountain bike seen ever.....
lock bike up in state park, they jump on rims or at store they kick rims
and bent racer rims......... all guys in new suits. was told by ranger
and store people......
yet police say probe some kid drinking and having fun on state land.
list go on for ever...........
I got to go could tell a zillion others as not to the smple
way..........
in short it is theres and there way is the only way or they well
show the other way.........
biking together.
BikKE MEEEeeeee
night.
now I can walk hike it at say. 3.5 mph or
3 miles a hour,
I bike easy pace at 60 minutes for 5 miles or 10 m.p.h.
so what you ask is 2 hours for bikng. this gives you 20 minutes to
screw aroun or find a place to hide bike.
and 3 miles per hour at 12 miles is 4 hours or the 20 minute to make
the screw time as to Oh gee Mom the world is so nice I can leave my bike
for a day and in the a.m. it well be here..NOT.......
4 plus 2 hours is 6 hours.
I did a run marathon with a cut off time once of 6 hours i did it in 5
hours and 25 minutes and got a ribbon and metal.
your 22 or 24 mile day hike bike is to say 6 or 7 hours.......
to run it at 5.5 mph is= 5:30
to hike bike it = 6:30
to bike it =4;30 easy paceif you think.
4:30 o 6;30 is easy.
when ever I go out I think of varables
Like
food.
drink.
rest area.
if bike damage or lost.
backpack day pack.
and what to carry.
and shoes dress....
and route is important.
on state land with all could say is every were sept were one sleep and
keep there few junk stuff.....
Let them do the rules and regulations.
in my area biking hiking running is free in state land.
if I tokk a car.
it has to have a state park sticker and I need a job with all the other
cost to live..... a full time job and not get paid chump change and
half free stuff to not get paid on..... this here has ended for me
years ago..........
is it safe to do 4:30 to 7:00 on state land.yes it is. do it dureing
working hours........ I do it year round.
can you get a job and do it.some bosses yes. most won't let you. they
want you ready and at high energy every day you work....and dead tired
when your not.....
I see in stores most working guy seems spend hafe there pay checks on
energy stuff......... i felt bad as there get yelled at so much.........
I can't be a judge an shoot people.so I ride on.......
varables is the real world.
your world or simple is.
your trip. 4 to 7 hours.
miles for every 10 run hike
do 40 to 60 bike
and 2 to 4 swim per week. train.
and cost I get.
I well be slamed for this again........
they don't shoot steel or take any more.
they go after my life time of taxes paid and any future gets thru
wills and such. and the way they do it.I never well see the one who gets
it.......
tem the suits.
tell the cops they no butt suits has rights too.
varables........
have a good day in the park it is free for me.......I am.
biking together.
BikKE MEEEeeeee
I seea form of working class people who like the wilds and wilderness.
butt don't have the fight to go bo on what the suits want them to do.
it don't mean your not couch potatoes. your job and life is more
important.
I miss them days all the time.
all they do is fight me.......
different they have money.
I don't.......
biking together.