Chounard boots (scarpa?) vs Asolo and Merrill

Eric S. Peterson

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Feb 28, 1994, 9:38:58 AM2/28/94

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I want to buy some boots for telemarking and backcountry touring. I am
leaning towards the Asolo Extreme, but a friend suggested getting
double boots since they are more comfortable and warmer. He tends to
ski really vertical stuff, which is beyond my ability.

Are double boots good for touring and day trips on intermediate type
slopes?

Are the Chounard (spelling?) boots worth considering? I think they go
by the label scarpa

PLEASE EMAIL ME OR POST TO REC.BACKCOUNTRY AS I CANNOT READ REC.SKIING

thanks very much for the help!

Eric

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kevin klenk

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Feb 28, 1994, 7:00:05 PM2/28/94

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In article <26...@alsys1.aecom.yu.edu>, pete...@aecom.yu.edu
(Eric S. Peterson) writes:

>Are the Chounard (spelling?) boots worth considering? I
>think they go by the label scarpa

Chouinard no longer exists as a company. Yvon Chouinard sold
off the separate parts of the company (due to lawsuits over
climbing accidents) several years back. Two large companies
which remain after the breakup are Patagonia (clothing) and
Black Diamond (climbing gear).

Scarpa is a separate Italian boot company which was never
affiliated with the Chouinard companies. Fabiano has Scarpa
manufacture their stitch-down hiking boots and also serves as
importer for most of the Scarpa hiking boot line. Black
Diamond is the importer for the Scarpa double boots and skiing
boots (such as the Terminator).

>I want to buy some boots for telemarking and backcountry
>touring. I am leaning towards the Asolo Extreme, but a
>friend suggested getting double boots since they are more
>comfortable and warmer. He tends to ski really vertical
>stuff, which is beyond my ability.

You are going to have to be a bit more specific. There are
double boots for winter mountaineering (such as the Scarpa
Inverno and Lowa Denali) which can also be used with randonnee
style bindings designed for alpine skiing. Black Diamond also
imports Scarpa's Terminator and T2 which are telemark style
plastic double boots. As far as I know Scarpa is the only
manufacturer of plastic telemark boots but a few companies are
supposed to come out with them in the near future. The T2 is
designed for backcountry touring while the Terminator is
really designed for lift-service skiing. You probably should
go to a dealer who will allow you to test the different types
of boots.

The main advantage of the Terminator line is their turning
ability due to their stiffness.

Kevin Klenk
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University of Notre Dame
Department of Computer Science and Engineering
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James W. Lewis

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Mar 1, 1994, 8:37:29 AM3/1/94

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I have been touring in Merril Super Comps. It has a double
boot and plastic upper. Great for telemarking. Maybe
a little stiff / loss of flexibility around the ankle
(perhaps they have changed this in the newer models).

These are great boots. I have never had a blister with
them (yet). They may be overkill
unless you are serious about telemarking. The main trade off is
that they are slower to ski in than smaller boots.

Cheers
Jim Lewis

You can tell an eastern tree skier by the welts on their
legs from blasting saplings (small trees) out of the way.

Tim Schneider

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Mar 1, 1994, 3:19:14 AM3/1/94

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** In article <2ku0i5$h...@news.nd.edu>, kkl...@tolkien.helios.nd.edu (kevin klenk) writes:

>I want to buy some boots for telemarking and backcountry touring. I
>am leaning towards the Asolo Extreme, but a friend suggested getting
>double boots since they are more comfortable and warmer. He tends to
>ski really vertical stuff, which is beyond my ability.

Kevin> telemark style plastic double boots. As far as I know Scarpa
Kevin> is the only manufacturer of plastic telemark boots but a few
Kevin> companies are supposed to come out with them in the near
Kevin> future.

The Kastinger Yeti is a plastic telemark boot.. I think Dachstein(sp?)
also makes one

Mark Rosenberg

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Mar 1, 1994, 4:11:58 PM3/1/94

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Denis J. Bogan (ys...@bogan.gsfc.nasa.gov) wrote:
: Double boots as well as high stiff boots are not very good for touring. I
I am personally very happy with the way my Terminator 2s tour. No blisters.
If you unlatch the top buckle and release the forward lean lock, they feel
comfortable skinning or slogging.
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Mark Rosenberg
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David Veale

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Mar 2, 1994, 1:27:04 PM3/2/94

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ti...@hwcae.Honeywell.COM (Tim Schneider) writes:

>The Kastinger Yeti is a plastic telemark boot.. I think Dachstein(sp?)
>also makes one

Are you sure these are telemark boots and not randonee (alpine touring)
boots? I have yet to hear anything about any other telemark boots.

-David Veale

Tim Schneider

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Mar 2, 1994, 8:48:26 AM3/2/94

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** In article <2l2lpo$9...@news.u.washington.edu>, da...@u.washington.edu (David Veale) writes:

David> Are you sure these are telemark boots and not randonee
David> (alpine touring) boots? I have yet to hear anything about
David> any other telemark boots.

you're right there they are Alpine Touring boots not tele